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We previously looked at players who were picked seventh in the June draft, and concluded as follows: “Roughly, one quarter won’t reach the majors; another quarter will be replacement level or worse; a third quarter will have between 0-10 bWAR. There’s only about a 20% chance, your selected player will be worth more than ten bWAR.” But what are the odds of finding a diamond(back) in the rough, at the other picks Arizona has in the top 100? Unsurprisingly, pickings over the past decades have been thinner. But there have still been some good players to come out of those slots.
The #44 pick
Year | Tm | Name | Pos | WAR |
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Year | Tm | Name | Pos | WAR |
2016 | Braves | Kyle Muller | LHP | |
2015 | Rockies | Peter Lambert | RHP | |
2014 | White Sox | Spencer Adams | RHP | |
2013 | Marlins | Trevor Williams | RHP | -0.6 |
2012 | Padres | Travis Jankowski | OF | 1.0 |
2011 | Mets | Michael Fulmer | RHP | 7.0 |
2010 | Tigers | Nicholas Castellanos | 3B | -0.3 |
2009 | Rangers | Tanner Scheppers | RHP | 1.1 |
2008 | Yankees | Jeremy Bleich | LHP | |
2007 | Rangers | Neil Ramirez | RHP | 0.4 |
2006 | Red Sox | Caleb Clay | RHP | |
2005 | Marlins | Sean West | LHP | -0.1 |
2004 | Mets | Matt Durkin | RHP | |
2003 | Orioles | Brian Finch | RHP | |
2002 | Reds | Joey Votto | C | 49.3 |
2001 | Rockies | Jayson Nix | SS | 2.6 |
2000 | Royals | Mike Tonis | C | -0.1 |
1999 | Orioles | Scott Rice | LHP | -0.1 |
1998 | Phillies | Brad Baisley | RHP | |
1997 | Expos | Bryan Hebson | RHP | -0.1 |
1996 | Blue Jays | Brent Abernathy | SS | 0.0 |
1995 | Cardinals | Jay Woolf | SS | |
1994 | Expos | Jason Camilli | SS | |
1993 | Cardinals | Nate Dishington | 1B | |
1992 | Royals | Jon Lieber | RHP | 24.3 |
1991 | Astros | Mike Groppuso | 3B | |
1990 | White Sox | Bob Wickman | RHP | 17.2 |
1989 | Giants | Clay Bellinger | SS | -0.2 |
1988 | Mariners | Greg Pirkl | C | -0.5 |
1987 | Expos | Richie Lewis | RHP | 0.2 |
1986 | Orioles | John Posey | C | |
1985 | Phillies | Mike Young | LHP | |
1984 | Royals | Luis de los Santos | 3B | -0.8 |
1983 | Giants | Jeff Robinson | RHP | 3.1 |
1982 | Rangers | Mike Rubel | 1B | |
1981 | Expos | Mike Fuentes | OF | 0.1 |
1980 | Tigers | Charles Reese | SS | |
1979 | Giants | Chris Brown | 3B | 5.9 |
1978 | White Sox | Benjamin Belue | OF | |
1977 | Pirates | Michael Pill | RHP | |
1976 | Orioles | Jerry Don Gleaton | LHP | 2.3 |
1975 | Pirates | Jeffrey Pinkus | RHP | |
1974 | Red Sox | Jimmy Schankle | C | |
1973 | Astros | Scott Gregory | RHP | |
1972 | Tigers | John Valle | 3B | |
1971 | Dodgers | Greg Reinecker | RHP | |
1970 | Tigers | Mike Ibarguen | RHP | |
1969 | Cardinals | Ed Crosby | SS | -0.6 |
1968 | Yankees | Richard Trapp | SS | |
1967 | Mets | Gary Myers | OF | |
1966 | Red Sox | Richard Hoban | LHP | |
1965 | Astros | James Monin | SS | |
TOTAL | 108.8 |
[As in all the tables, players who did not sign that year are shown in italics, and their bWAR is not included in the overall total In the breakdown, we exclude the 2015 and 2016 picks as too recent; this also gives us a nice, round 50 picks with which to work]
- More than 10 bWAR: 6%
- 0-10 bWAR: 20%
- Below replacement level: 20%
- Did not make majors or did not sign: 54%
While the numbers reaching the majors below replacement and up to 10 bWAR are not dissimilar to those we saw with the seventh pick, we see a much greater chance of a #44 never reaching the majors at all, and sharply decreased odds of them being worth more than ten wins. Of the overall tally, almost half is due to a single player: Joey Votto, who was drafted 44th by the Reds in 2002. I hadn’t realised he was originally picked as a catcher - he never played there in the majors, and only seven times in the minor-leagues.
Obviously, getting a player like Votto at #44 would be hitting the jackpot for Arizona. But there have been other decent selections: All-Star Jon Lieber, a twenty-game winner for the Cubs in 2001, and Bob Wickman, who led the American League in saves for the 2005 season. Michael Fulmer, originally a Met, but dealt to the Tigers in the Yoenis Cepedes trade, is clearly the best of the recent picks. Last season’s AL Rookie of the Year will likely join that trio in the 10+ WAR club soon: the 24-year-old is 17-10 in his career, with a 3.04 ERA.
The #68 pick
Year | Tm | Name | Pos | WAR |
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Year | Tm | Name | Pos | WAR |
2016 | Pirates | Travis MacGregor | RHP | |
2015 | Orioles | Jonathan Hughes | RHP | |
2014 | Cardinals | Ronnie Williams | RHP | |
2013 | Nationals | Jake Johansen | RHP | |
2012 | Padres | Jeremy Baltz | LF | |
2011 | Cubs | Dan Vogelbach | 1B | -0.8 |
2010 | Tigers | Drew Smyly | LHP | 9.6 |
2009 | Blue Jays | Jake Eliopoulos | LHP | |
2008 | Mets | Javier Rodriguez | OF | |
2007 | Pirates | Duke Welker | RHP | 0.0 |
2006 | Braves | Dustin Evans | RHP | |
2005 | Cubs | Donnie Veal | LHP | 0.0 |
2004 | Marlins | Jason Vargas | LHP | 14.4 |
2003 | Devil Rays | Andrew Miller | LHP | 7.0 |
2002 | D-backs | Chris Snyder | C | 4.5 |
2001 | Dodgers | Brian Pilkington | RHP | |
2000 | Yankees | Danny Borrell | LHP | |
1999 | Angels | John Lackey | RHP | 36.2 |
1998 | Giants | Sammy Serrano | C | |
1997 | Astros | Cameron Hahn | C | |
1996 | Cardinals | Brent Butler | SS | -0.3 |
1995 | Brewers | Greg Schaub | RHP | |
1994 | Marlins | Todd Cady | C | |
1993 | Athletics | Mike Moschetti | SS | |
1992 | Twins | Tom Knauss | 3B | |
1991 | Pirates | Dave Doorneweerd | RHP | |
1990 | Dodgers | Leroy Williams | SS | |
1989 | Cubs | Billy White | SS | |
1988 | Phillies | Tim Mauser | RHP | 1.1 |
1987 | Padres | Bobby Sheridan | RHP | |
1986 | Astros | Tuffy Rhodes | OF | -0.2 |
1985 | Braves | Tom Abrell | RHP | |
1984 | Red Sox | Brock Knight | RHP | |
1983 | Expos | Randy Ray | C | |
1982 | White Sox | Ken Williams | OF | -0.1 |
1981 | Tigers | Robert Williamson | C | |
1980 | Royals | Doug Cook | RHP | |
1979 | Pirates | Scott Kuvinka | 3B | |
1978 | Twins | Dave Leeper | LHP | -1.2 |
1977 | Mets | Steve McQueen | SS | |
1976 | Orioles | Andrew Davis | 2B | |
1975 | Pirates | Don Robinson | RHP | 18.0 |
1974 | Red Sox | Ronny Patrick | LHP | |
1973 | Astros | David Aloi | RHP | |
1972 | Tigers | Jim Gideon | RHP | -0.2 |
1971 | Dodgers | Ricky Green | RHP | |
1970 | Tigers | James Chamberlain | LHP | |
1969 | Cardinals | Mick Kelleher | SS | -2.2 |
1968 | Senators | Alan Schwartz | RHP | |
1967 | Reds | Fred Kendall | C | 1.0 |
1966 | Angels | Jim Suskiewich | LHP | |
1965 | Yankees | Stan Bahnsen | RHP | 22.9 |
TOTAL | 111.1 |
- More than 10 bWAR: 8%
- 0-10 bWAR: 14%
- Below replacement level: 10%
- Did not make majors or did not sign: 68%
Surprisingly, the total bWAR out of the 68th pick is fractionally higher than that produced by the 44th pick. This is due to the higher number of “stars” out of the lower slot. The margin seems likely to grow, with John Lackey and Jason Vargas still actively accumulating value, and Drew Smyly likely to join them in the category when he returns from the DL, likely later this month. #68 has also given us the “best reliever in baseball”, Andrew Miller, another man almost certain to be worth 10+ WAR before his career has finished. There’s be no complaints about the wheel o’ prospects stopping on anyone similar for us next week.
A little lower, we also see the only previous time the D-backs had one of these picks, selecting catcher Chris Snyder here in 2002. That didn’t work out too badly. But the harsh truth is, success at this point is a good deal less likely than failure, with more than two-thirds of the players chosen, never making it to the majors for the team that drafted them. Finally, let’s pause to acknowledge the awesomeness of Tuffy Rhodes. He hit three homers off Dwight Gooden on Opening Day 1994 and still had a below replacement career in MLB. But he then went to Japan, where he infamously tied Sadaharu Oh’s NPB record with 55 homers in 2001.
The #82 pick
Year | Tm | Name | Pos | WAR |
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Year | Tm | Name | Pos | WAR |
2016 | Brewers | Braden Webb | RHP | |
2015 | Cubs | Bryan Hudson | LHP | |
2014 | Rockies | Sam Howard | LHP | |
2013 | Royals | Carter Hope | RHP | |
2012 | Dodgers | Paco Rodriguez | LHP | 2.1 |
2011 | Padres | Austin Hedges | C | -0.6 |
2010 | Yankees | Angelo Gumbs | SS | |
2009 | Mariners | Kyle Seager | 2B | 24.6 |
2008 | Giants | Roger Kieschnick | OF | -1.0 |
2007 | Cardinals | Jess Todd | RHP | -0.4 |
2006 | Tigers | Brennan Boesch | OF | 0.4 |
2005 | Royals | Chris Nicoll | RHP | |
2004 | Pirates | Eddie Prasch | 3B | |
2003 | White Sox | Clint King | OF | |
2002 | Indians | Jason Cooper | OF | |
2001 | Expos | Mike Hinckley | LHP | 0.9 |
2000 | White Sox | Mike Morse | SS | 4.0 |
1999 | Cardinals | Josh Pearce | RHP | -0.3 |
1998 | Padres | Beau Craig | C | |
1997 | Rays | Kenny Kelly | OF | -0.1 |
1996 | Cubs | Skip Ames | RHP | |
1995 | Indians | Chad Whitaker | OF | |
1994 | Cardinals | Corey Avrard | RHP | |
1993 | Cubs | Vee Hightower | OF | |
1992 | Mariners | Chris Widger | C | -0.4 |
1991 | Orioles | Alex Ochoa | OF | 6.5 |
1990 | Pirates | John Schulte | OF | |
1989 | Dodgers | Phil Nevin | SS | 15.8 |
1988 | Blue Jays | David Weathers | RHP | 10.9 |
1987 | Mets | Tim Hines | C | |
1986 | Pirates | Joel Forrest | LHP | |
1985 | Giants | Bobby Jackson | 3B | |
1984 | Mariners | Steve Rousey | RHP | |
1983 | Reds | Mike Goedde | RHP | |
1982 | Blue Jays | Chris Johnston | 1B | |
1981 | Blue Jays | Scott Pleis | C | |
1980 | Padres | Neil Bryant | LHP | |
1979 | Braves | Kenneth Ames | RHP | |
1978 | Athletics | Mike Woodard | 2B | -0.3 |
1977 | Braves | Allen Wesolowski | RHP | |
1976 | Twins | Warren Allen | SS | |
1975 | Expos | Andrew Dyes | OF | |
1974 | Angels | Thad Bosley | OF | 2.5 |
1973 | Braves | William Downing | SS | |
1972 | Angels | Dave Machemer | SS | -0.1 |
1971 | Indians | Donnie Howse | 3B | |
1970 | Dodgers | Rick Nitz | RHP | |
1969 | Pirates | Jim McKee | RHP | -0.4 |
1968 | Brewers | Marty West | C | |
1967 | Cubs | Terrell Jones | C | |
1966 | Athletics | Dave Hamilton | LHP | 3.9 |
1965 | Pirates | Bob Settle | RHP | |
TOTAL | 68.0 |
- More than 10 bWAR: 4%
- 0-10 bWAR: 14%
- Below replacement level: 18%
- Did not make majors or did not sign: 64%
The overall value here is about half of the other two picks. The percentage of picks who never reach MLB level is similar, but there are only a couple of good players who have been found here, and a sharp increase in the number who were below replacement level. Even recently, with improved scouting, there hasn’t been much to shout about, with just two players after 2000 reaching even a single WAR. Kyle Seager is easily the most valuable man to have been picked at this spot, and has produced more WAR thus far, than 80 of the 81 who were picked ahead of him. [The other’s some guy called Mike Trout]
The other is Paco Rodriguez, who reached the majors at 21, and posted a 2.53 ERA over 124 appearances for Los Angeles, before his career was cut short by injury. He was last heard of this spring, getting cut by the Braves, and may be done. Note that the figures above exclude the output of former Diamondbacks’ farm manager Phil Nevin. He was almost a Dodger, but didn’t sign with them after they drafted him out of high school here in 1999. Three years later, he was the overall #1 pick, but never quite lived up to that potential either.