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Diamondbacks 5, Rockies 5 - "There's no tying in baseball!"

As Tom Hanks once famously (almost) said - except, he clearly hadn't been to the Cactus League, where the game ends whenever the managers decide it will, usually when all the pitchers concerned have got their work in. Personally, I think I will settle for anything which is not a loss against the Rockies, having had my fill of that particular dish last October. This was a typical early spring-training game. Every starter was replaced before the end of the game, and a total of twenty position players as well as six pitchers used by Arizona, thanks in part to the DH being in effect, at the request of the Rockies. That sound you heard was Micah Owings gnashing his teeth in frustration, at not getting to the plate.

He pitched two innings, and was largely focusing on his change-up, as well as getting used to throwing from a new position on the rubber. The results were about what you'd expect: deuces were entirely wild for Owings, who threw two innings, allowed two hits, two walks and two earned runs, both earned, while striking out - inevitably - two. Of course, it was the second inning that proved his undoing, with the first three Rockies hitters all reaching, on a pair of hits and a walk, and two of them came around to score. Murphy followed Owings up, and it was feast or famine for Bill the Cat, who struck out three in his two frames, but also allowed three hits and a run. Fruto threw two shutout frames, but when Robertson gave up another run in the seventh, to put the Rockies up 4-0, it looked like this one was over.

However, Arizona had a different idea, plating four runs of their own to tie it up in the bottom of the inning. Emilio Bonifacio drove in the first score of 2008 for the Diamondbacks with a sacrifice-fly and non-roster invitee Donny Kelly came through in the clutch with a bases-loaded, two-run single. A wild-pitch then tied the game, and Bonifacio struck again, giving Arizona the lead with a single in the eighth. That gave Brandon Medders a chance of the win, after he'd pitched a perfect frame...albeit not, based on what Wimb said, without a couple of long, deep outs. However, Jailen Peguero couldn't close it out, giving up two hits and two walks in the ninth, as well as hitting Jeff Baker with the bases-loaded to drive in the tying run. It might have been worse, had Peguero not started a double-play himself earlier in the inning.

Indeed, quite the game for those, with each team turning three apiece. Conor Jackson had two hits, but also caught straying too far off second and was nailed by Podsednik as part of one twin-killing. Geraldo Parra had a good day: playing right-field, where he replaced for starter Justin upton, he went 2-for-2 and scored both times. Alex Romero reached safely in both of his plate-appearances, on a pair of walks and Bonifacio, as noted above, drove in two runs. Less successful were leadoff man Chris Young [0-for-3 with 2 K's] and our DH, Trot Nixon, who was 0-for-3 with four men left on base. Upton was also hitless in three at-bats.

Randy Johnson faced hitters today, throwing 53 pitches to designated cannon-fodder, chris Rahl and Trent Oeltjen [no word on whether they were wearing red shirts]. Nick Piecoro speculates, based on comments made by Johnson after the game that he'll have another BP session and then "see where we go from there," that the Big Unit's first game will be around about March 7-9, putting him a week or so behind the other starters. Hmmm, if he remains that way, then I'm wondering if the club is aiming to put Johnson out there for the home opener, against the Dodgers on April 7th? Or possibly the day after, since Opening Day at Chase won't really need any attendance boost. That would also mean he probably wouldn't need to fly out from Arizona to start, either in Cincinnati or Colorado.

Not that flying appears to be bothering Johnson, since he popped over to New York on Tuesday, to catch Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood in concert, and was back in Tucson on Wednesday. Despite Johnson's back issues, the trans-continental jaunt did not bother Melvin, "Especially when you are in a private plane, when you have as much room as you need." Have to say, I was somewhat surprised by this: I hope it's a sign that Johnson's back is fully recovered, but it does mean I will probably be rather less sympathetic if the Big Unit cries off any road-trips this season, claiming back issues. I also am curious as to who's private jet it was that chauffeured Johnson to and from Madison Square Gardens.

On that topic, I asked Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus about Randy's back, and whether he thought the prognosis for the 2008 season was better or worse than last year. He replied, "Better, because last year they did a microlaminectomy - a small "let's see if this will hold up and remove the pain" procedure. It didn't, [so] he had the more serious, invasive, and permanent surgery. I'd think that he can go 25 starts, but it's likely that he'll make virtually all of them or very few (1 or 2). He's not going to pitch in pain and has nothing left to prove." Except, perhaps, for the shiny bauble of 300 wins.

RJ could be the last to reach that mark for some time. Does Mike Mussina have 50 more wins in him? If not, then the only other under-40's more than half-way there are Pedro Martinez (209) and Andy Pettitte (201). The Hardball Times Preseason Annual had a fun chart predicting their chances of reaching 300 victories. The leader there is Mussina at 29%, but Martinez is not seen as likely, because of his recent injury issues, and only gets a 2% chance. Pettitte is next, at 12%, and then its Felix Hernandez, which kinda makes sense - he has 30 wins and is still only aged 21. He's given a 10% chance of hitting 300. Brandon Webb is down at 5%, though only a handful of active pitchers are above that: Carmona, Hudson, Santana and Schilling (6%); Beckett, Peavy and Verlander (7%); Smoltz and Zambrano (8%); Sabathia (9%). Oddly, the book doesn't list Johnson, but by using this online version of the Bill James Favorite Toy, it gives Randy a 48.4 percent chance of reaching 300.

Finally, a curious story out of Colorado, which I imagine Deadspin will probably be posting before too long. Call Girl Confesses: Sex At Exclusive Denver Club:

Sex, drugs and high rollers. A former prostitute said all three were in play during wild sex parties at an exclusive Denver social club, reports CBS station KCNC-TV in Denver... Federal and local law enforcement authorities shut down Denver Players and a second escort company, Denver Sugar, last month. They executed search warrants and seized bank accounts, financial records and other evidence from several locations in Denver. Nobody has been arrested or charged, but a federal grand jury is investigating the prostitution services.

The woman said downtown lawyers, money managers and businessmen were just part of the clientele. She said "doctors ... general contractors ... professional athletes" also patronized the prostitution service, which usually charged about $300 for an hour of sex. "Nuggets basketball players ... Arizona Diamondbacks ... Rockies baseball players" and some Denver Broncos were customers she said... Law enforcement did not release the names of any of the clients, even though sources say investigators obtained that information via search warrants.

Hmmm. This could potentially get very nasty, though one imagines any D-backs involved were more likely to be guests than clients; the Rockies, as locals, probably have more to fear of being documented clients, I think. Of course, maybe the lady of the night just meant Denny Neagle. :-) Let the baseless speculation begin!

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uh oh
that prostitution story is worrysome, especially because i'm afraid it validates a story i had heard and did not want to believe is true. a friend of mine working at the hotel in which orlando hudson is currently residing has been telling me about late-night visits from young young women to the 2b's room.

in other news..
i am having a hell of a time trying to get into the online box office for their presale. everytime i try to go to it, my computer crashes and dies. is anyone else having problems like that?

by leemellon on Feb 29, 2008 12:27 PM EST   0 recs

I know who has been hitting the hookers
Dinger and Baxter. Makin' it rain with big furry paws is a trick, but they manage.
Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Feb 29, 2008 4:58 PM EST   0 recs

Uh, wow.
I'm off to scour that mental image from my brain with alcohol.  Rubbing alcohol, if that's all that can be acquired....
I'm not superstitious- it's bad luck.

by kishi on Feb 29, 2008 6:47 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Oh, piffle
Two-handed drinking and a constant parade of whores is what made baseball America's pastime.  But now that ballplayers are taking drugs to improve performance, it's no wonder that the NFL has taken over... the poor Babe is spinning in his grave like a steam turbine.  Where's the decadence?  Where's the debauchery?  Where's the marathon bouts of drunken idiocy that end in remorse and regret all around?!?

(Oh, right - in Denver, apparently.)

by peachy rex on Feb 29, 2008 7:04 PM EST   0 recs

I'm not sure why I should care
about the hookers but I'm sure there are people that do.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by soco on Feb 29, 2008 7:15 PM EST   0 recs

With you on that
I'm entirely in favor of legalizing prostitution. I have no issues with whatever recreation the players want to engage in outside of the park, as long as it keeps them happily productive, and doesn't frighten the horses. But I sense my views are somewhat more liberal than those of most people, and one can only imagine the merciless heckling that would be directed at player X. The potential distraction an incident like this could cause is enormous: see the Vikings and their "love boat" scandal for something along the same lines.

by Jim McLennan on Feb 29, 2008 10:13 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

In all seriousness
I agree.  If player X wants to snort a line and boff a hooker, that's his business.

From Arizona's perspective, this couldn't have happened in a better place - there's nothing the public likes better than watching the ostentatiously moral publicly succumb to earthly temptation.  Rockies players + prostitutes + cocaine = schadenfreude up the gazoo.  Hehe.

by peachy rex on Feb 29, 2008 11:06 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Let me point out
before you guys get too carried away, it said nothing about current Rockies players. Just guys who played for the Rockies at one time. And we already have a fairly good guess as to who that might be, seeing as he's already gone for the $40 Colfax specials. ($300 is probably too high-class for Mister $51 Million Neagle). And also lest we forgot, your guys were down there as well.

That's all, carry on.

Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Feb 29, 2008 11:30 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

If
current Rockies players weren't involved, then current Diamondbacks players may very well not have been either - when M'sieur Neagle was still roaming the streets of Denver in search of dames de plaisir, much of our roster was in the minors.  Or high school.

by peachy rex on Mar 1, 2008 12:37 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Saying nothing about
current D-backs players either, should have made that clear -- but either way, the fingers point both ways.

And yes, most of OUR roster, for that matter, was still living in dorms while Neagle was terrorizing the ladies of the night and carting them around for the low, low price of $40. So for all I know, he was constant with the cheap stuff and never wanted to try the Cristal. Idiot.

Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Mar 1, 2008 12:49 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Living in dorms?
Come on, let's be honest here.  They were still sleeping in bunks at the local church camp.
Stay grindy, my friends.

by soco on Mar 1, 2008 1:04 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

The difference being...
The Rockies now have a reputation - whether deserved or not - as a "Christian" ball-club. For anyone now associated with the organization to be 'named and shamed' in an incident like this would be far more newsworthy as a result than, oh, just about any D-backs. It's like the difference between Jimmie Swaggart and Charlie Sheen, both of whom were found to be consorting with hookers - Swaggart went down in flames, Sheen's career barely blipped. Those who set themselves up as guardians of moral virtue in any way, had better be very sure of themselves. See Larry Craig for details.

by Jim McLennan on Mar 1, 2008 2:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Oh I know
If nothing else, I'm reminded every time there's a Deadspin article about the Rockies -- I can't read the comments because it's all stupid "Team Jesus" jokes. But a) there is no "requirement" to be Christian and b) not everyone on the club is Christian. C) Although I agree about the power of public perception. I despair for the stupidity of humankind sometimes, etc. But I'm not really worried about any of the current Rockies being named, at least none of our key performers. For one thing, whether it stems from "Christianity" or whatever, they seem to be genuinely good guys. Now, there are a few that I have heard things about, and if it were those players, I may not be as surprised. But it wouldn't be entirely shocking. Deadspin commenters would make more stupid jokes. Life would go on. And besides -- whaaa, professional athletes like sex? Who knew?

And comparing us to Larry Craig? C'mon now, that's low. ;)

Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Mar 1, 2008 2:47 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

P.S.
One more thing. I don't mean to turn this into a religious debate and it's late so I need to get off, but what's so wrong with having a team of good guys, whether religiously based or not? From the 1,000s of articles about how warm, loose, and accepting the Colorado clubhouse is, I don't think anyone can factually say they're some kind of theological mafia discriminating against non-believers. Lost in all the "Team Jesus" nonsense is that this is a team that is good, funny, and caring. And I'm not Christian in the slightest but if some of them are, why mock them for it?

The USA Today article has been refuted by the players themselves. It's accurate so far as the front office goes perhaps, but the front office isn't the guys on the field, in the clubhouse, playing the games. It painted an accurate picture of some beliefs, but was quite wrong of how exactly those are disseminated and used on the level of the guys themselves.

I swear I'll give it up, but this is a tetchy subject for Rockies fans, as I'm sure you can see. Not saying we didn't ask for it, but still.

Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Mar 1, 2008 2:53 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

There's nothing wrong
with a team of good guys - certainly preferable to a team always in the news for cheating with PEDs and beating up their girlfriends.

Of course, to me, eschewing hookers and blow is irrelevant to whether a player is a good guy or not.  Now, I'm sure Byrnes won't feel the same way if one or more current players are implicated... but Arizona as an organisation hasn't built its identity on being self-conciously "good," so we can shrug off any (not too scandalous) revelations as athletes being athletes.  A bit of embarrassment, perhaps some internal discipline - for poor judgement if nothing else - but the problem likely fades away soon enough.

The situation is going to be different for Colorado... and while the fans didn't ask for it, the front office did.  Which limits my sympathy to a degree, yes?

by peachy rex on Mar 1, 2008 12:15 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

If it's a "tetchy subject"
Then perhaps half the team getting caught with a bunch of hookers and blow would be for the best. It'd certainly demolish the myth with extreme prejudice. :-) "Good guys" are fine. I think we have a team of good guys here in Arizona - including a number of Christians [Micah and, last year, Tony Clark being the most obvious ones]. But, the situation as described in the USA Today article [again, whether true or not - we're talking about perception here, probably more than reality] would be one in which I, as a non-Christian, would feel uncomfortable. I'm a big believer in personal faith. With the emphasis on the word "personal", and I have little time for anyone who thinks they're a better person than me, simply because they go to church [mosque, synagogue, Mayan temple] and I don't. I tend to think organized religion should be kept out of sport. As well as politics, education and the bedroom. But that's just me. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Mar 1, 2008 12:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

We can heartily agree on this:
I tend to think organized religion should be kept out of sport. As well as politics, education and the bedroom. But that's just me. :-)

Just quickly: The players said that the clubhouse environment as described in that article was incorrect or greatly exaggerated. And I do think that both of our teams field numbers of good guys and Christians, but they are neither required nor mutually exclusive. Okay, I'm gonna stop bothering you guys now. :)

Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Mar 1, 2008 3:05 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I have no idea about the clubhouse
I've never been in it.

But I was a little annoyed when the Rockies owner called Coors field "God's Stadium" on national television at the end of the NLCS.

by shoewizard on Mar 3, 2008 9:50 AM EST   0 recs

Trust me
That annoyed all of us too. Nobody likes the Monforts.
Friendly visiting Rockies fan.

by Silverblood on Mar 3, 2008 3:25 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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