Gameday Thread, #161: 9/29 vs. Rockies

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 7:54 PM EDT in Gameday Threads

Edgar Gonzalez (24, RHP, 8-3, 4.73)

Mark Redman (33, LHP, 1-4, 8.67)

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With the Padres going down to the Brewers in extra innings, the Diamondbacks have won the 2007 National League West, guaranteed themselves the top seed in the league, and home-advantage throughout the playoffs. Today and tomorrow can thus became celebrations of the fact, with our core players being rested for bigger, more important battles to come. Well, it may not be relevant to us, but the Rockies are still in this thing.

Specifically, if they win tonight, and the Padres lose again tomorrow, then all hell could break lose. We are, depending on how the Mets and Phillies do, possibly looking at a four-way tie for the Wild Card, with two of those teams also tied for the NL East. Hey, we've paid our dues in antacids and ulcers this year: let's kick back, enjoy the last couple of days, and let others stress out for the remainder of the season. Especially, the Padres, who have to decide whether to send Peavy out on short rest, or put their post-season hopes on the shoulders of...Brett Tomko. Rather them than us!

We've running the door at the last Romantasy show tonight, down at the Paper Heart. I'll be lap-top enabled, but probably not until about 6:30pm, so will join the thread in progress. There will be beer. Oh, there will be lots of beer. Will there be dancing girls too, master? Dancing girls. Yes. I decree there will be dancing girls too. Cake, too. And none of that off-the-shelf stuff either...

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Weeee are the chaaaampioooonnns...

... of the weeeeeeeest!!

Lineup:

C Young CF .235
J Upton RF .226
E Byrnes LF .286
C Jackson 1B .282
M Reynolds 3B .283
C Snyder C .252
S Drew SS .240
A Ojeda 2B .282
E Gonzalez P .150

by snakecharmer on Sep 29, 2007 7:59 PM EDT reply actions

Awesome

& we're gonna score some runs tonight, love that lineup. Of course I'd rather have Young in the middle, but that is more than made for with Drew on the bench. 5+ runs I'd expect as usual with the better lineups.

by cj060896 on Sep 29, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Because Drew has hurt us so much

this week.

by andrewinnewyork on Sep 29, 2007 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Or just one.

by Azreous on Sep 30, 2007 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow

CJ. You're SOOOO right. Against one of the worst starting pitchers in all of baseball, this perfectly constructed lineup netted 1 run. Wow. CJ for MOTY!

by johngordonma on Sep 30, 2007 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions

The funny thing

is that however much CJ talks about his lineups, the only real rules he has are "don't play Drew and don't play Clark." He made a big stink before about who is in which spot, but as he notes above, he doesn't really care if Young is leading off instead of fourth.

Makes you think that batting ORDER isn't really that important to him. Maybe he's learning something.

by andrewinnewyork on Sep 30, 2007 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions

Drew a late scratch

O Ojeda
E Bonifacio

by snakecharmer on Sep 29, 2007 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Whither Drew?

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions

At this very moment

ESPN.com still has the little 'z' next to Arizona in the standings. Where's our 'x' you miserable sons of toads? That question goes to those worthless wretches at foxsports too.

by peachy rex on Sep 29, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions

Yahoo

has just updated their standings and we have a 'y' in front.......

by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 29, 2007 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Stupid ESPN

Can't come to terms with the fact that they think we're the 9th best team in MLB, yet we're guaranteed the best record in the senior league.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions

College Football

Why in the world isn't this game being broadcast?

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions

No broadcast

I follow the Diamondbacks from the East Coast so my only choice is MLB Extra Innings. I tuned in tonight for the game and much to my surprise the game was not being broadcast. Then I looked closer at what was being broadcast.

All of the games being sent out had 7:00 pm EDT starting times. There were only six of them. None of the four games that involved teams who were still involved in positioning in the post season were available.

Is this just because they are in the "inferior" National League? The usual suspects, the Yankees and Red Sox were, of course, covered.

Also, I have noticed during the season that MLB seldom carries the broadcast by the Diamondback announcers. Is this a judgement call?

by Rod on Sep 29, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I do know...

This game was not originally intended to be televised in Phoenix, and was only added to the schedule at the last minute.

Kinda wish they hadn't bothered...

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Even if

we get past the rest of the N.L. (which is looking better and better) are we really ready for A.L. pitching?

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 8:20 PM EDT reply actions

We're certainly ready

for a matchup of #9 hitters of say, Micah Owings vs. Tim Wakefield.

by andrewinnewyork on Sep 29, 2007 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Unsportsmanlike thought

Shouldn't we want those crazy 4-team playoff scenarios to take place so that the Rockies, Padres, Mets and Phillies have to burn up pitchers during play-in games.

Which means: Should we try to throw this game?

by andrewinnewyork on Sep 29, 2007 8:20 PM EDT reply actions

Over at GLB

They have resigned themselves, with weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, to the fact that they need to cheer for Arizona tonight. Oh, the humanity... :-) And with that, off we go. More from me later, if I can post around the beer, dancing girls and cake scheduled for later.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 8:21 PM EDT reply actions

NOT

the start we were looking for off EdGon.

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 8:22 PM EDT reply actions

Ugg,ug,ugg

Schu ,do something to him,please!

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 8:28 PM EDT reply actions

Erm,for schu read sh@t

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

OOOH

I'll bet they pulled Drew because we clinched home field advantage already, so they want to give Bonifacio some playing time, and Augie some time at short.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:28 PM EDT reply actions

Por fin

I have coverage (damn news)

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions

Who mentioned throwing this game?

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 8:30 PM EDT reply actions

I did

I think it's part of Bo"MOTY"Mel's strategy to play with Bud Black's head. I think he had EdGon drink a fifth of Jack or something.

Clubhouse speech: "Don't worry about winning boys, it's all wrapped up and it's worse for the Padres if we lose"

by andrewinnewyork on Sep 29, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL the mad scientist at work again...

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I guess

EdGon doesn't want to pitch any more this year.

by TwinnerA on Sep 29, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions

Reaction from GLB

[new] Oh great

On cue, the Dbacks start losing. Down by 2 in the bottom of the 1st.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.
by Axion on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 08:28:33 PM EDT
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[new] Jerks

They know they've clinched already, so they don't care. I bet they're deliberately trying to screw it up for the NL Wild Card.

by Mr Meadows on Sat Sep 29, 2007 at 08:31:11 PM EDT
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Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions

It's funny....

Because I don't remember the Padres ever doing us any favors.

by Azreous on Sep 30, 2007 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions

It' s only 4 runs.;

Clawing back a lead is something we've done all season.

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions

...and with the 4-0 lead

Rockies fans scream out a collective "WHERE THE F#&% WAS THAT LAST NIGHT???"

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions

Bring him home, Mark!!

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions

Snyderman's night tonight maybe?

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions

It's all gone very quite and flat

hasn't it?

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions

You could say that....

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions

C'mon Edgar

redeem yourself with a hit.

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions

Ha

my mad typing skillz work again!

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions

Well then....

there goes the shutout. Nice job, Barney, EdGon, and CY, in that order.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 9:08 PM EDT reply actions

Upton comes thru

NOT!

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions

Somebody needs to teach Eric

to quit swinging at pitches off the outside corner. Gets him every time.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions

And somebody needs to make EdGon get a haircut

The long hair is eating away at his brain, eroding his pitching ability.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions

You really don't like long hair

do you?

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions

What are your thoughts

on hippies?

Stay grindy, my friends.

by soco on Sep 29, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

it worked for the unit

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey

You do what he does, and you can wear long hair.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

Since I refer to Khalil Greene as the Anime Hippy, I think you can extrapolate from that. :-P

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe

skins has a complex

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions

Carlos Quentin?

In for Byrnes? Why? I'd rather not see him for the next couple of weeks.

by bcloirao on Sep 29, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions

sigh

this game is a complete mystery to me.I put it down to champagne showers.

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions

YEAH ROBBY!!

gets a hit!

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions

Well

I don't foresee us having to worry about comments getting nested this evening. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions

Calm before the storm?

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Carlos Quentin

Like I said...

Carlos Quentin is a bum. He should have quit after his first 10 at bats in 2006.

by bcloirao on Sep 29, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions

Carlos Quentin

Is going to be a beast, if he ever stops striking out.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions

The question is...

Will he be a beast for us, or for somewhere else? Because I see an outfield next year of Byrnes, Young and Upton. Maybe we can trade him to the Padres for a AAA reliever with a broken hand or something?

Oh, hang on... :-(

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions

That's been my fear this entire year.

:-(

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions

S'funny

What a difference 24 hours makes. Coming down to the Paper Heart tonight, I turned the radio on, just in time to hear the Rockies go 5-1 up. I laughed and turned it off: yesterday, that would have made me throw up in the car...

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions

We've out hit the Rockies

7-6, but have been outscored 5-1. It's a bit like the Padres game, where they out-hit the Brewers, 12-6, but still lost...

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions

Except

that we have absolutely nothing to gain besides pride by winning, and they had absolutely everything to lose.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I think

we have been lulled into a state of lethargy

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 10:00 PM EDT reply actions

More fun from Youtube

The infamous Steve Bartman Kiss Cam, from during the Cubs series at Chase:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdVaIib7bX4

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions

Getting the feeling that...

The team is not just phoning this one in, they're dialing long-distance, from a gas station somewhere in Nebraska.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions

Either that

Or Bob Melvin has decided that our run differential needed correcting, since it was getting too close to zero.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions

That phone call

is coming from Mobile Al.

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions

What else is on t.v.

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions

This is f$&@ing disgusting!

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions

Nah

I'm still laughing at this.

Then again, the beer is cold, the dancing girls hot, and the cake has frosting. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Cake and Girls

You lucky bastard. Any chance that that they will join as one?

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Y'mean

In a dancing girl jumping out of the cake kinda way? I fear not: it's not quite large enough. But who knows what might happen!

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey, it's a party, nobody knows what could go down

Behold the power of beer.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Ojeda for pitcher?

by snakecharmer on Sep 29, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions

maybe

they ought to have Sutton with his 10.64 ERA come in to stop the bleeding. I think Gracie can pull double duty.

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions

See,

now THIS would have been the perfect situation for BK Kim.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I've lost the will to live.

Still,this is the one I expected to lose.

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions

Actually...

I was thinking this might have been our best chance. Wasn't expecting five innings of no earned runs from a pitcher with a season ERA above eight... Thank god we won last night. Can you imagine how this would feel if we were tied with the Padres right now?

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't

just...don't

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I tend to think, actually, that

the fact that the Padres lost is part of the reason for us being down by 10 runs right now.

Although, frankly, I was a bit worried about our run differential lately. ;-)

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions

We certainly

Wouldn't be seeing a lineup that currently includes Cirillo, Bonifacio, Hammock and Quentin, that's for sure...

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I went away to look at videos

of kittens sleeping.It didn't help:-(

We will meet in Red 3 at the hour of scampering.

by hotclaws on Sep 29, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions

Yay!

Pizza's on the way, so I can watch the end of Heat, not watch the Dbacks lose, (since KWBA is being retarded again) and get ready to go out.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions

HOLY SHIZZ

Sorry i'm late to the party. I had my girlfriend over and were watching Knocked Up. But

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO WEST CHAMPS FUCK YEAH

"very cunning Mr. *VIII*" -- Jim

by Mr. Philosophical on Sep 29, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions

You people

are actually concerned about this game?

If anything I'm rooting for us to lose this game and tomorrow's to result in all hell for the standings.

I just wanted to ask - do we know who's going to start tomorrow? Seems like a good time to give ol' Dana Eveland another start on the mound.

by dahlian on Sep 29, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions

We were debating that last night, actually.

Do you rest Doug Davis? Or play him?

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Rest him

Want Davis to go on Thursday in Game 2 of the NLDS. That'd be short rest if he pitched tomorrow: best avoid that, I think.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd prefer

to see Owings as our #2 and Davis as our #3. Regardless, we should sit Davis tomorrow.

by johngordonma on Sep 30, 2007 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions

We are.

We're starting the Petit Unit instead.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 30, 2007 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Rest him.

No question.

It's a completely meaningless game that if anything, profits you if you lose. We want Davis rested and ready to go in game number two.

by dahlian on Sep 29, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions

No official word yet.

Eveland is certainly possible. The Padres would hate that. Which is all the more reason to do it, really...

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions

There´s an ironic twist to it, as well

Since Eveland´s a former Brewer.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Now hitting...

Micah Owings! Go, Pwnings!

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions

Dammit

K's swinging. That reduces his batting average to .333. :-S

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions

And yet,

I still won't let my wife change the t.v.

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions

Why the hell is Pestileñce pitching?

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions

I was surprised by that

No real point. Give him a bit of work, I suppose. But the way this inning has unfolded so far, I'm not so happy about the result.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions

And.... Tony Peña is a pitching animal.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions

It's like a Spring Training game

Nineteen players used by AZ thus far, seventeen by the Rockies.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions

Hey

Hannibal is on TNT

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions

I already watched Heat

I´ve moved on to A Day Without A Mexican now.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions

The Mexican

we could've done without was EdGon.
Other than that I say the more the ...

Thank you Kevin Seitzer

by Dr Robert on Sep 29, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions

Excellent.

It´s only 1 loss, it doesn´t hurt us at all for the postseason, we rested some of our guys, and we add another 10 runs to our already impressive run differential. :-D

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 29, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions

I was getting

worried before today we might finish with a positive differential. Dance with the one that brung ya, says I.

by peachy rex on Sep 30, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions

EXCELLENT GAME

If we can find a way to lose tomorrow (pitching Eveland would be a start) and the Mets & Phillies win and the Padres lose we can see them all use up pitcher after pitcher before the NLDS starts (hopefully for us agains the Wild Card from the NL East, say a depleted Mets rotation).

by andrewinnewyork on Sep 29, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions

On the plus side...

Al from BCB came through with an explanation of how to up the value at which comment nesting kicks in. I've put it up to 1000; figure that'll be enough for the moment. It certainly was tonight...

by Jim McLennan on Sep 29, 2007 11:59 PM EDT reply actions

So it won't be buried

in old thread...

Jim, Owingss VORP is 21.2 as a pitcher and 16.8 as a hitter.

by dahlian on Sep 30, 2007 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow

So, he's almost more valuable to the team at the plant than on the mound. Can't be many pitchers about whom that has ever been said.

by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2007 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Might be a bit early to start calling him Bambino

But still.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 30, 2007 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Hmmm.... interesting

I was looking for a value of "400", but I couldn't find one.

Come on, Sandy Baby, loosen up. You're too tight.

by DbacksSkins on Sep 30, 2007 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions

I have no idea what this means.

by dahlian on Sep 30, 2007 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions

In more detail

Click User Preferences. You'll see a dropdown menu. Highlight "comment_overflow_at". Click "Get". You'll see a number in the "default value" field.

Dahlian, you can ignore the previous paragraph. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2007 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions

Yuck

I saw/heard some of the game up until about 7:00 p.m. when I had somewhere to go and thank goodness this game wasn't a must win or we'd all be crying by now.

by TwinnerA on Sep 30, 2007 1:43 AM EDT reply actions