Gameday Thread, #158: 9/26 vs. Pirates
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Five games to go: three wins guarantee us the post-season. In fact, I think three guarantees us the NL West title too: that would get us 91 wins. The Padres are the only team who can reach that, and even if they did, we would take the title because we won the season series. I'm open to any corrections on this matter, however...
Turning to Livan Hernandez for comfort is a strange situation, but even though he's allowed 16 earned runs in 23 innings over his last four starts, that's still much better than Morris: 22 earned runs in 18.1 innings. Yikes. So, here's to our hitters getting the hits, with fewer wasted opportunities, men left on base and rally-killing double-plays. We will, of course, also be watching the Phillies, Rockies and Padres games with interest as they unfold. Afternoon start, a 4:05pm Arizona first pitch, so usual limited participation from me, at least till I get home around 6pm.
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A tie gives us the division only if the Padres are the wildcard. Otherwise, it's a 1 game playoff.
Today's lineup
- C. Young cf .239
- S. Drew ss .230
- E. Byrnes lf .289
- C. Jackson 1b .281
- M. Reynolds 3b .283
- M. Montero c .228
- J. Upton rf .231
- A. Ojeda 2b .267
- L. Hernandez p .205
Crappy 1st
Is it just me, or does Eric Byrnes definitely lead the league in popouts?
Such as...
by Jim McLennan on Sep 26, 2007 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Memo to Livan
by Jim McLennan on Sep 26, 2007 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Good call
by Jim McLennan on Sep 26, 2007 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Until the rain stops? ;)
by snakecharmer on Sep 26, 2007 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Field readiness
by snakecharmer on Sep 26, 2007 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, really poor grounds crew
Hmmm....
Yeah. And the schedule.
by snakecharmer on Sep 26, 2007 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rain delay....
Ohh, Livo, no!
Aw, man!
Heading out..
How have we
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
Come on, fellas..
by oklahomasooners on Sep 26, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Gosh
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
LINEUP, LINEUP, LINEUP
by cj060896 on Sep 26, 2007 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean
(If you noticed, it was spelled correctly in the post you responded to)
Additionally
When you have...
by Jim McLennan on Sep 26, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Lineup Leads to those #'s
by cj060896 on Sep 26, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Plugging your "holes" is meaningless.
Firstly, one batter in the lineup doesn't affect how good the next batter is. It wouldn't matter if you put the pitcher 1st and Eric Byrnes 9th, (or, as you would put it, Byrnes should be somewhere 1-8. You're very big on specifics, by the way.) or stacked the entire lineup with .300 hitters, if nobody gets a hit. That has exactly NOTHING to do with the lineup and EVERYTHING to do with the hitters themselves, and the game at hand. 1 extra base hit doesn't matter where it is if it's the only extra base hit we get. There is NO such thing as a lineup "chain reaction".
Secondly, you haven't even done the research to know whether whatever it is you're babbling about has ever actually been done. You want to take what you claim to be a sample of 5-6 games (That's a great sample size, by the way. In a 162 game season, that's a sample size of 3.0-3.7%)with "your" lineup, and then you explain to us that we should all raise our consciousness to your divine level because you're "sure the average is over 5 runs a game with the lowest being 4", yet you admittedly have no idea what you're talking about. I assume you weren't aware that the Diamondbacks are averaging 4.42 runs per game over the course of the entire season, making your statements completely meaningless and your claims inane, since your original claim that you apparently posted "77 times" was that the Dbacks would score a whopping 4 runs per game with "your" lineup. Even if we were to give you the benefit of the doubt, and let's pretend that the Dbacks have used your ideal lineup 6 times so far this season, and that they scored 5 runs in each of those games, for a total of 30 runs, and subtracted those runs and those games, the Dbacks are STILL averaging 4.40 runs per game. Essentially, your perfect lineup is average, and statistically worthless.
Finally, you have given exactly no evidence whatsoever for any of your stupid theories, and then you go around acting like you're a MENSA member and the rest of us suffer from Down's Syndrome. Nobody ever responds to anything you say because 1. none of it makes any sense 2. we can't understand what the hell you're trying to say, and 3. you really, really have no idea what you're talking about.
But hey, with all these .250 hitters, we should have won 95 games, not (almost) 90, right?
Begone, annoying little troll.
Dear God,
by Mr. Philosophical on Sep 26, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
This sucks
That flushing sound
P! U!
This team has out-performed every single expectation and hope I had going into the season, but to see this going on right now is still pretty painful and disgusting.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
I am now the world's biggest..
Come on, D'Backs. This is starting to get a bit annoying.
by oklahomasooners on Sep 26, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The way the
If it ain't us, I'm glad to see the Rockies have a shot at it.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Just so long as it's not...
NEVER!
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Argh.....
Too late,
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Losing faith
Shit
I really have a love-hate relationship with em
I have a hate/hate relationship
Wow.....
Leave BP Leavoff off the final roster
I say we relegate him to the pen during the playoffs.
LEAVOFF BP HERNANDEZ OFF THE ROSTER
Bautista.... wtf?
Makes up for Livan's DP earlier. (Sorta)
We spotted them 4 runs
0 fer
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone slow down CY
He is hacking all kinds of shit!
Work the freaking pitch counts you zorkula!
Okay....
you said it
Since then he has lost 10mph on his fastball and many ball games.
This is garbage.
Not quite
by DbacksSkins on Sep 26, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The offense lacks discipline!
Who is your daddy, and what does he do?
by DbacksSkins on Sep 26, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez
I'm wondering
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so glad
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
hate to be negative, but....
Bad, but....
Errr..... I would disagree
by DbacksSkins on Sep 26, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hells bells
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
So
A little late
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
THe 10 million
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 26, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Yes! Think positive!
by DbacksSkins on Sep 26, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Dane Cook so much.
On another note, going to third on that ball?? Maybe not so smart...
Wow... whoever that guy was who ran himself out,
What are we doing?!?
Anyone else think maybe we'll need to pitch Webb on short rest in Colorado in order to make the post-season?
Errr....
Do you want him to pitch on 2 days' rest?
by DbacksSkins on Sep 26, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Job One
Long rest, yeah. It's a very tough call I'm glad I dont have to make. Basically, if the Pads & Rocks win later today, I think it makes sense to push Webb back to COL and hope you gut out tomorrow's game v the worst team in the league somehow, some way. If the Pads lose however, I say start Webb tomorrow and kick the crap out of the Pirates, because that'll put enormous pressure on the Pads(who go to Milw) and Philly(who face Smoltz).
Everyone wants to win the division, but job one here is to make the postseason, even if the Rockies leapfrog us on the final weekend.
by Diamondhacks on Sep 26, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, I misunderstood
Here's an idea. Build a big fat early lead tomorrow against the Buc's bum du jour, and remove Brandon early so he can do just as you suggest...on Sunday.
And, if it turns out you dont need Sunday's game, Webby's extra rested for Game 1 NLDS :-)
by Diamondhacks on Sep 26, 2007 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting idea...
by Jim McLennan on Sep 26, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
With you there...
by cj060896 on Sep 26, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Valid points, except...
Our position relative to the Phillies? Yes. Relative to the Padres? Yes ( I think). Relative to the Rockies - no. Any win vs the Rocks knocks a big "two" off the magic number, not one.
That's my underlying driver for even considering bumping Webb, in the event things go sour (like tonight). I certainly take your point about his struggles in Coors and the NLDS implications, and agree Webb has a better chance to win in PIT. But a win in COL will be worth more - and the question becomes. "Will we need that "double credit" win?
It's very hard to say. Statistically, I'd normally say no. But when I look at some of these pitching matchups, home/away matchups down the stretch, I get uneasy. Grady Little played all kids today and Josh Fogg shut em out.
My gnawing concern is that if COL and either SD or PHI(who close at home v WASH) keep winning, Webb's projected win tomorrow may not be enough in the end. Bottom line: I'm not as confident as you appear to be, about our chances in Coors right now, sans Brandon.
P.S. This isnt something I feel confident about - there's an awful lot of assumptions here - just kind of thinking out loud, trying to figure it out. Like I say, I'm glad I dont have to make the call :-)
by Diamondhacks on Sep 27, 2007 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey!! Matt Kata!
Bye bye, Medders.
Shoulda traded him to the Yankees.
Is it just me....
Wet turf,maybe?
Hacks is right, though.
...of course, you'd expect that to affect Morgan too, and he's been stellar.
Or not
by DbacksSkins on Sep 26, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
SD leading SF
by Mr. Philosophical on Sep 26, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Nope.
by DbacksSkins on Sep 26, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, well...
And the Padres
Peavy
It wont
by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 27, 2007 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
More importantly...
I'd really, really prefer it if we could just lock down a postseason spot ourselves, but it sure does look like we're going to need some help, especially as we haven't fared well this season against Colorado.
Time to remedy that, even if we have to go all the way to Denver to do it. (After beating the Pirates tomorrow)
Well, Padres win, and Bonds is gone
Of course, this was after he put his glove in the camera's face before the game.
It'll certainly be different without him around here next season. Hopefully it will make it easier to get tickets! ;)

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