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The Record-Breakers, 2007

I was going to start the review of the Community Projections today. And then I looked at them. Let's just say, they will be reviewed from the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, stuck in a disused lavatory, with a sign on the door saying "Beware of The Leopard". Or, at least, not this week. Instead, just had a very nice dinner at The British Open in Scottsdale - I recommend the fish and chips - while we watched the Cowboys-Packers game. Mrs. SnakePit brought up an interesting point: why do you never see gridiron managers getting kicked out of games, or at least, not with the frequency of baseball ones. And, in particular, Bobby Cox or Lou Pinella. Does it have something to do with instant replay? Or is there so much aggression on the field of play there, that the coaches seem meek and mild in comparison?

Anyway, in lieu of those projections (I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...), figured it might be amusing to take a look at how the 2007 season stacked up on the individual record front. Starting with batting average, where we find absolutely no new entries in the top ten for the D-backs franchise history; given our "limited" offensive performance, no real surprise there. The team leader was Orlando Hudson's .294, good for 17th on the all-time list, and just ahead of last year's champion, Conor Jackson at .291. O-Dawg's an unexpected winner there; we had a poll before the season started, and Hudson was chosen by only 3% of participants. [The winner was Jackson at 40%, with...er, Stephen Drew next at 29%. That'll give you some idea why I'm postponing that projections thing. :-)] Orlando's on-base percentage of .376 was just good enough to crack the top ten, however, and the same goes for his 70 walks.

Nothing to see in slugging percentage though, with Tony Clark leading the way, in fifteenth with .511. The Baseball-Reference.com lists, which I'm using here, have a lower number of plate appearance for qualification than the "official" MLB batting title, etc. Best OPS for 2007 goes to rookie third-baseman Mark Reynolds; however, to put that into context his, .844 was only good enough for 22nd, between Alex Cintron's 2003 and Tony Batista's 1998. Still, no less than five D-backs - Reynolds, Jackson, Clark, Hudson and Byrnes - beat out 2006's best OPS, Jackson's .809.

Eric Byrnes missed only two games, and played in the first 124 games of the season, running his consecutive games streak to 164 before sitting out the finale of a series in Atlanta on August 19. Only Gonzo has played in more games during a season - he was an ever-present in both 2000 and 2001. Must be something about the left-field corner, as it occupies the top three slots, with the most by a non-LF, Shawn Green's 158 in 2005. That undoubtedly gave Byrnes a leg-up in some other categories: he fell one short of equalling Matt William's record number of at-bats, and was fifth for most hits, Eric also scored 103 runs, =6th-most, and a number not surpassed since Gonzo crossed home 128 times in the year we won the World Series.

Byrnes thirty doubles led the club, but that wasn't even good to crack the top twenty in Diamondbacks' history; similarly his 83 RBI was fifteenth. He was pipped for triples by Hudson, whose nine were one more than Byrnes but both men made the top ten. Orlando tied himself from 2006 in sixth, and Eric sits alongside Garcia and McCracken in eighth. Chris Young and his 32 homers were also good enough for eighth all-time, and blew away the franchise rookie record, previously held by Travis Lee who hit 22 in 1998. Again, this surprised readers, with Young rating only 12% of the votes in a pre-season poll. Carlos Quentin won that, with 43%. I refer you my previous remarks on our predictive skills. :-) Quentin did lead the team in HBPs with eleven, an impressive number since he was only in half the games. That was equal sixth, and Byrnes, who had one fewer, was euqal eighth.

No shock to learn Young also led in strikeouts, and his final tally of 141 trailed only Troy Glaus in 2005. He was chased all the way by Mark Reynolds, who K'd 129 times, fourth-best in AZ history, in only 111 games. That would be almost 190 over a full season, and I expect the pair to go head-to-head for the record next year too. Young's speed netted him 27 stolen-bases, sixth-most, but a long way behind Eric Byrnes, who became only the second Diamondback ever to swipe fifty bags. Tony Womack had an astonishing 72 in 1999, a figure reached in the majors only once since, Jose Reyes stealing 78 for the Mets this year. Finally on the hitting side, there was one franchise mark set: O-Dawg grounded into a double-play no less than 21 times. It's a little weird - as the triples show, he's not a slouch, but on April 24th, he managed to hit both a three-bagger and into two double-plays, the only major-leaguer to do that this year.

On the pitching front, we are, for obvious reasons, talking largely about Brandon Webb. Webb's 3.01 ERA was tenth-best ever by a Diamondback, giving him his second entry in the list - his 2.84 in 2003 rates sixth. The 18 wins were a career high, and is a number reached previously only by Curt and Randy, and the same goes for his 194 K's [=8th]. Webb has increased his innings pitched every year since making his debut in 2003, and has thrown over 700 in total over the past three seasons: seventeen more than the next most in the majors (Johan Santana). Five complete games was in Schilling-Johnson territory too, though I suspect Randy's franchise mark of twelve in 1999 will likely never be challenged.

Among the relief crew, Jose Valverde cruised past the saves record to see a new mark at 47, and also snagged the career record: he currently sits on 98. Pena's 75 games and Lyon's 73 were good for 4th and 6th respectively, though both fell a long way short of the record holder, Oscar Villarreal who pitched in 86 games during 2003. Micah Owings also made a brave stab at becoming the most savage head-hunter in Arizona history, hitting 14 batters; if he'd started more often, he might have challenged the Big Unit's record of 18, set in 2001. I've little doubt getting hit by Johnson probably hurt a good deal more though. :-)

Looking over this all brings to mind the question of whether we should be revising the All-time Top 10 Diamondbacks, originally written almost two years ago. Here's the list as it was then:

  1. Randy Johnson
  2. Luis Gonzalez
  3. Curt Schilling
  4. Steve Finley
  5. Brandon Webb
  6. Jay Bell
  7. Matt Williams
  8. Craig Counsell
  9. Byung-Hung Kim
  10. Tony Womack

No doubt, I think, that Webb should move up a spot or two - but exactly where to? And has Valverde now done enough to justify inclusion? I don't think the past couple of seasons have thrown up many other candidates for inclusion, but perhaps Orlando Hudson and Chris Snyder could end up listed, with a strong 2008? All comments on this topic are welcome.

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In light of this season..
Does Kim get booted out ;)

I think we'd all agree that hitting was a let down this season, I certainly never saw CQ and Drew hitting as badly as they did.

On the otherhand the pitching surprised me especially the bullpen.

I don't suppose we have any quirky stats on how many times Livan got out of a jam ;) or where he ranks on the list of walks etc :D

by Wimb on Nov 30, 2007 8:00 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Random stats
Overall in the NL last year, 55% of plate appearances came with the bases empty, 45% were with men on base, and 27% with runners in scoring position. For Hernandez 2.0, the equivalent percentages were 54%, 46% and 29%. I find that a surprisingly small difference. However, compare that to the numbers for the D-backs overall: 50%, 39% and 22%, and that gives you an idea of why Livan's appearances were so good for antacid sales. His 79 walks were equal fifth on the all-time franchise list - Webb's 72 was good enough for tenth, but both were a long way short of the record-holder which, perhaps shockingly, is also Webb. He walked 119 people in 2004.

by Jim McLennan on Nov 30, 2007 10:16 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Webb
should be above Finley.

"Mark Reynolds, who K'd 129 times, fourth-best in AZ history, in only 111 games."

Would that be 4th best or 4th worst???

2007 NLCS: the little scratch on the roof of your mouth that would heal if only you could stop tonguing it... but you cant.

by Adam1 on Nov 30, 2007 1:59 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed
For now, bump him to #4.

Give Webb another few seasons, and then we can talk about where he falls in the top 2.

I'm not superstitious- it's bad luck.

by kishi on Nov 30, 2007 3:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uhg
The bottom half of that list, outside of Counsell, makes me cringe.  I think that you can replace Womack with Hudson right now.  I move Webb to 4th as well.
Bob Melvin Sucks

by nihil67 on Nov 30, 2007 6:25 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks
Couldn't agree more.  :)

by Counsellmember on Dec 1, 2007 10:53 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A for gridiron coaches
I think the main reason is that it's really hard to get kicked out of a football game.  You have to be punching a ref in the face or being excessively violent, or something of that sort to get kicked out.  Most of the time in gridiron football the penalties are divvied out in yards gained or lost instead of removing players or coaches.

Another reason, though probably less on the scale, is that coaches don't want to get kicked out.  If an coordinator or head coach gets kicked out of a game, you're pretty much SOL when it comes to calling plays and strategy.  In baseball, you can always have the bench coach run the strategy, and it's not like the players can't figure it out.

Stay grindy, my friends.

by soco on Nov 30, 2007 7:27 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a very good list
provided that popularity and World Series stuff is taken into consideration.

On a purely regular season statistical valuation, I'd eagerly replace Counsell and Womack with Miggy Batista and Papa Grande and leave Kim where he is for now.

The Diamondback success story has many popular faces, but it's a tale largely told from the mound.    

by Diamondhacks on Nov 30, 2007 9:33 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my list
   1. Randy Johnson
   2. Luis Gonzalez
   3. Curt Schilling
   4. Brandon Webb
   5. Steve Finley
   6. Jay Bell
   7. Matt Williams
   8. Craig Counsell
   9. Jose Valverde
  10. Byung-Hung Kim

Give Hudson one more year and he'll easily bump Kim.  Miguel Batista is an interesting suggestion by Hacks, but I think Kim's comet-like status gives him the edge.

by johngordonma on Dec 1, 2007 5:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll thow in another vote for Miggy...
I have a weird thing for Batista, so I'd put him above Kim.  I was really bummed to see him go last year.  Shouldn't Kim's implosion in the '01 WS knock him down a few pegs?  ;)

by azshadowwalker on Dec 4, 2007 1:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yet another list
Here I'm ignoring popularity and postseason accomplishments and trying to synthesize peak regular season performance w/ longetivity. Folks w/ only one year of service excluded. Active players in bold. Your comments welcome, mine are below.  

Randy Johnson
Luis Gonzalez
Brandon Webb
Curt Schilling
Steve Finley
Jose Valverde
Jay Bell
Matt Williams
Byung-Hyun Kim
Orlando Hudson
Craig Counsell
Miguel Batista
Damian Miller
Omar Daal
Eric Byrnes
Tony Womack
Chad Tracy
Brian Anderson
Greg Swindell
Matt Mantei

Webb over Schilling. Oh sure, I know what you're thinking - Brandon gets bonus points for not writing an Open Letter To America, but that's not really it. Who's got more wins and 300 more IP as a Dback? Brandon. Whose got the higher ERA+ across three top years? Brandon, slightly. Curt's best season was a little better, but their top three campaigns are basically toss ups. The big difference between these guys isnt performance or "substance" - it's pitching style and the fact Schill pitched for better Dback teams - including one in the World Series.

Valverde's rank reflects 3 big ERA+ seasons (218, 182 and 177) to date. Even discounting for a closer's low relative value stemming from low IP, only a handful of Dbacks boast 3 strong seasons, and they're all rated higher than Jose here.  

Matt Williams only hit above league average once -118 OPS+ in 1999. Jay Bell's two best seasons were better than Matty's two best. Let's face it, the only thing Matty led this team in is pretty wives.

Counsell was a better hitter and better fielder than Tony Womack and they're not as close as I had initially assumed.

Omar Daal may be the most underappreciated player in franchise history.

by Diamondhacks on Dec 1, 2007 9:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good list
not much disagreement here.  After the top five things are really up for grabs.  Seems like Valverde needs another top level year to justify the number 6 slot... but it's not a ridiculous argument.

by johngordonma on Dec 4, 2007 3:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right,
Valverde's too high and belongs under BK. I got enamored with ERA+ and took my eye off the ball.

Speaking of which, when BK was 21, he had 111 Ks in 71 innings.  Next year, 58 hits...in 98 IP. Doesnt tell the complete story, but what an unusual talent he was.  

Also, prior to this year, only one Dback pitcher had a hand in 50+ wins in a season:

2001 Kim 54
2002 Kim 60 !

This year, three more guys:

2007 Pena 50
2007 Lyon 52
2007 Valverde 54

Also right about things falling apart after Finley. Might make sense to adopt T-Mobile's "My Five" approach and call it a day :-)

by Diamondhacks on Dec 4, 2007 10:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Daal
Didn't Daal have the first shut-out CG win (or at least shut-out win) for DBacks?

Interesting comments. Fun to reminisce.

by Bcawz on Dec 7, 2007 10:31 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give that man a cigar !
July 30th, Omar blanked the Cubs in 2 hrs 14 min, nipping our friend BA for the honor,  who went 8 in the team's first shutout 3 months prior.

And Benes had the first complete game win, the back end of a doubleheader at old Busch.

by Diamondhacks on Dec 7, 2007 2:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you hear...
that Brian Anderson is trying to make a comeback?  I'd like to see him make it.  I always liked the guy.

I'm firmly in favor of Webby over Schilling.  Of course, that's not based on numbers.  It's based on the fact that I was so happy when Schilling left & I didn't have to pretend to like him anymore. :)

As far as stats, I agree that Schilling had a lot more help than Webby has had.  In fact, I firmly believe that the horrible 2004 stats for Webby were based upon the fact that he took too much on himself to make up for the horrible defense he had behind him.  He couldn't count on them, so he tried to get too fine.  Having actual fielders behind him is mandatory for a sinker-baller.

by azshadowwalker on Dec 4, 2007 1:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I probably didnt give Brian his due
either.  

Top 5 Dbacks - Innings

  1. Johnson  1446
  2. Webb     1089
  3. Anderson  840
  4. Schilling 781
  5. Batista   723
Plus, 2.43 ERA in 29 career IP (incl Cleveland)

by Diamondhacks on Dec 4, 2007 11:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mr. Anderson
I liked BA also. I remember some story about him ironing his forehead or arm or something like that.

Thanks guys.

by Bcawz on Dec 7, 2007 10:33 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh come now, dont sell
Brian's fabulous adventures short. He ironed his face .

by Diamondhacks on Dec 7, 2007 3:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was the king of the freak injury,.
He turned up for training one day with both ears bandaged up, and Bob Brenly asked him what happened. Brian repled, "I was ironing while watching TV, and the phone rang - without thinking, I picked up the hot iron and put it to my ear." "That's terrible," said Bob, "But how did you burn the other ear?" "Oh, that was calling 911 for an ambulance."

Actually, that's a made-up story, but it's very close to the reality. He burned his face while ironing, locked himself naked out of his hotel room in an apparent sleepwalking accident, cut a finger opening a cologne bottle, and missed a start with a stiff arm after riding in a taxi cab with the arm across the seat. And he still got to pitch in the World Series against Roger Clemen, keeping AZ in with a chance during Game 3.

by Jim McLennan on Dec 7, 2007 3:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One word best explains...
this sort of behavior. Dominatrix.

Wielding Occam's razor, no doubt.

by Diamondhacks on Dec 7, 2007 5:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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