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Worst Deals in Diamondbacks History

Let's be clear about this particular list. It benefits entirely from 20/20 hindsight. Some of these deals were troublesome when they were announced, but others did seem to make sense at the time, based on past performance. We don't care any more: the mantra is "What have you done for me lately?" and so these have been analyzed purely on the results which were actually produced. Suggestions of any I may have missed are welcome, though I doubt there'll be much argument over the top choice...

  1. Russ Ortiz: 4 years, $33m. By the time we finally get him off the books, Ortiz will have been paid more than a million dollars, every time he took the mound for Arizona. Or, to put it another way, $240,000 per inning. Pardon me while I vomit. He made 28 starts, posting a 5-16 record and an ERA of 7.00, before being dumped half-way through the second year.

  2. Richie Sexson: 1 year, $8.7m. Thanks to a couple of injuries, he had just 90 at-bats for Arizona. Was on pace for a 50-homer season, but missed 139 games, then bolted to Seattle at the end of the year. And we also traded Lyle Overbay and Chris Capuano, among others, for him. Overbay has posted OPS+ of 127, 113 and 126 in the three seasons since, while Capuano was an All-Star in 2006.

  3. Todd Stottlemyre: 4 years, $32m. Hardly worse than Ortiz's contract was the Stottlemyre one, especially allowing for inflation since 1999. Over its lifetime, he started just 39 games, with an ERA of 4.77. Stottlemyre tore his rotator cuff two months in, and an apparently endless list of ailments followed. He missed all 2001, getting a nerve relocated because of tendonitis, and never made a dozen consecutive starts without hitting the DL. The sorry saga ended in June 2002, when he had surgery to remove bone chips in his elbow.

  4. Matt Mantei: 4 years, $22m. We paid Mantei for four seasons as our closer, 2001-04, and got a single, half-decent one: in 2003 he had 29 saves. The other three years, he managed a total of six, injury limiting him to a mere 43.2 innings of work. Including his "good" year, we got less than a hundred innings for our $22m, rivalling the Huge Manatee on a cost per pitch basis.

  5. Bernard Gilkey: 2 years, $10.5m. The figure quoted here is approximate; when we traded for him from the Mets in mid-1998, cash went in both directions. We got 161 games from him before dumping him mid-2000, eating the remainder of his contract. During his AZ time, Gilkey batted .246, because of eye problems, with less than thirty extra-base hits and eleven HR for all that cash. We should have taken heed of his Men in Black cameo, where he gets nailed by a fly-ball.

  6. Travis Lee: 4 years, $10m. Back in October 1996, before we'd ever played a game, we pounced on Lee after the Twins failed to give him a contract, signing someone who'd never played in the majors to an eight-figure contract. Expected to be the franchise face, Lee fizzled, posting an OPS+ of 90. The most valuable thing he ever did for Arizona, was be part of the trade that brought Curt Schilling here.

  7. Jason Grimsley: 1 year, $825K. Though paying that much for 27.2 innings of below-average relief pitching isn't good, this makes the list less for financial reasons, than the staggeringly-awful nature of the off-field scenario which unfolded. Previously, AZ fans could snigger complacently at the BALCO-infested locker-room over by the bay, but Grimsley's exposure by the Feds single-handedly derailed the entire 2006 season.

  8. Shawn Green: 3 years, $20m. The trade which brought Green to Arizona in January 2005 was not awful in itself, with Green filling a need in RF. However, the contract extension tied into it proved to be a complete albatross: Green had lost more than 130 points of OPS from 2002 through 2004, and even the move to a hitter's park only delayed the inevitable. The team also failed to notice the presence of a younger, cheaper, better alternative of Carlos Quentin. Pawning Green to the Mets, even with $6.5m in cash, was near-miraculous.

  9. Luis Gonzalez: 3 years, $30m. This extension Luis got in 2003 would undoubtedly rank higher, except it was, to some extent, a make-up deal. Gonzo's 57 homers [if you exclude the tainted Sosa, McGwire and Bonds - and I know I do - the eighth-most all-time] in 2001 cost just $4.3m. While unquestionably nice, the results proved more charitable than a wise investment of resources. Gonzo hit only .268, with fewer homers over the three years combined than in that World Series season.

  10. Matt Williams: 5 years, $45m. Like Lee, this was one of those contracts signed before the Diamondbacks started play, and was clearly intended to make a statement. Unfortunately, the statement turned out to be that Arizona were an easy mark for players past their prime. OPS+'s of 99, 121, 85, 94 and 102 followed, which averages out at almost exactly 100. Even allowing for Williams' good hands, definitely far short of being worth $9m a year.

Honorable mentions: Jay Bell (5 years, $34m), Mark Grace (3 years, $7.75m, 96 OPS+), Shane Reynolds (1 year, $1m, 2 innings). The good news is how clear we currently are of many contenders for future inclusion on the list. The Johnson contract could end up rolling snake eyes, but equally, may end up a brilliant move. If Tony Clark has another dismal season, then his contract extension might merit honorable mention, but basically, the cash only counts as a misuse of pocket change in the baseball scheme of things.

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Only thing I don't agree with
is Grace being in the honorable mention.  2.6 a year for Grace was a pretty good price for the cog that he was in the World Series team.  

Yeah, I'd rather it have been a 1 or 2 year deal, but I wouldn't rank it ahead of last year's Mulholland deal (800k for 3 IP and 3 ERs), the 1.35mil we payed Royce Clayton in '05, or maybe the most glaring missing piece of your list: the 2 year, $2.068mil extension signed by Tony Clark.

by nihil67 on Jan 24, 2007 4:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Younger, cheaper, better alternatives to Grace
Part of the problem with the Grace deal is it rendered Erubiel Durazo superfluous - even though, in 2001 and 2002, he had OPS+ of 126 and 138 (he hit 28 HR in 397 at-bats; Grace only 22 in 774). Pissed-off (understandably) with his lack of playing time, Durazo was traded to Oakland for (cough) Elmer Dessens...and went on to produce OPS+ of 119 and 136 for them there, as a full-time player (albeit a DH).

Then there's Alex Cabrera, sold to Japan the day before Grace signed - and who tied the single-season home-run record there. Sure, I love Grace totally, and there's no doubt his defense was better. But I think either of those would have been much more productive offensively, and at lower cost.

by Jim McLennan on Jan 25, 2007 3:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand
While I liked Durazo, him at 1st for a whole season would have been a disaster fielding wise.  There was never a question that he could hit.  Stay healthy on the other hand... well we see the results.  Alex Cabrera wasn't going to do in the US what he did in Japan.

I see your point, but I still wouldn't rank it ahead of some other deals.

by nihil67 on Jan 25, 2007 8:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice
work there Jim. I'm sure it put a little bit of time to put together. Not that AZ's decision making has always been great in the past, I'm sure each team could come up with a very similar list if they tried.

It's kinda like that list of players that went on to great things once they moved on to another team. It always seems like you're on an island when it's your team that it keeps happening to.

by AZSEAfan on Jan 24, 2007 6:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nit picking
I would heartily concur by in large with the make up with your top ten.  I would rate mine this way:
  1. Ortiz (he should also take up slots 2, 3, and 4)...
  2. Gilkey (I totally forgot about the money we doled out to Gilkey -- yikes)
  3. Mantei (You didn't mentioned he cost us Penny... or should I say a "pretty penny", yuck, yuck)
  4. Sexson (bad indeed)
  5. Stottlemyre (bad, but nowhere near Ortiz territory, in my book)
  6. Green (man this torqued me when we did this last year)
  7. Williams (Collangelo's Monopoly money)
  8. Bell (ditto)
  9. Grimsley
  10. Reynolds

by johngordonma on Jan 24, 2007 10:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A special honorable mention:
I think that this category should have been reserved for the Jason Grimsley deal.  

Sure, 1 year $875k may not have been outlandish, but I think we can all agree about the special place it holds in Diamondbacks history.

by dahlian on Jan 25, 2007 1:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd want to put a slightly different view on these
I believe there's a big difference between a contract for a limp of cow dung and a contract from someone who gets injured and isn't the same after.
  1. Whoevers idea it was to sign this guy needs to be hung, drawn and quartered, then shot and the bits fed to dogs before jumping on the bones (You get the idea I think it was bad??? hehe). What a waste of time and money....
  2. This was an appaling deal at the time (I think I was vocal about it on the yahoo boards). Giving up so much for a guy we hadn't signed to an extension?!?! Even if he hadn't got injured we were only renting him for a year.... How we'd like to have Chris back in the starting rotation....and Overbay really never got the consistent support here for him to truly flourish (not sure where he would be in the side though atm... ).
3 and 4 ) Injury issues...can't call them bad, just unfortunate... With Mantei, when he was good he was the closer we wanted and neede... but the injuries took their toll on him..
5 & 6 ) Before my time (Well.. at least being over here anyway... didn't get too many D'backs games on channel 5 @ 2am in the morning an a Monday morning before work...)
7 ) If we'd have known then what we know now... we surely wouldnt have touched him (like anyone else) but at the time less than 1Mil for an experienced bullpen player seemed a good deal..I do wonder how many teams would still sign a Bonds, Sosa or big M if they knew they were taking something but knew what output they would get...Im sure there would a few tempted...
8 )With Green, the biggest + was what it did to the Dodgers and their fans.. if I remember didn't they pay some of his salary too? Yes, the added years were expensive, but was needed to get him away I would guess..and overall, I dont think it was too bad..
9 ) Was Luiz overpaid for what he put on the field? Probably... Was he overpaid for his overall contribution to the face of the team, the leadership and his relationship with the fans? hmmm to have such a friendly and approachable face on 3TV early in a morning and for sound bites does seem to have value when the front office couldn't be recognized by half the population here if they were running down the street with a sign "I own/run the D'backs above them". Does our current manager have a personality btw???
10 ) Well.. I never really liked Williams (or Bell) so I might be biased... but they did get some crucial hits at the right times in 2001......on the other hand I always liked Grace as part of the team, even if it was for the character he brought to the clubhouse.

Sorry for the long post.... hehe Those damn Brits never shut up huh? ;o)

by AZDarkKnight on Jan 25, 2007 4:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Long entries?
[ Sorry for the long post.... hehe Those damn Brits never shut up huh? ;o) ]

And I've got 600 blog entries to prove it. ;-) Never apologise - or apologiZe! - for writing too much. Couple of general points: agree that if someone like Bonds hadn't signed with the Giants, he'd have had a number of other offers. Tolerance for misconduct is undeniably connected to level of performance. On the Green trade, I actually took the $10m the Dodgers sent into account, even though we sent most of that on to the Mets; we were on the hook to him for $30m in total.

by Jim McLennan on Jan 25, 2007 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mantei
I strongly (but respectfully) disagree with the Knight on this one. Penny has had some injury issues himself. Healthy or not, the trade for Mantei (and the amount of money required to keep him around) was just plain stupid from the start.

But, then again, if AZ doesn't give F-Rod away to the Giants, there would have been no need to give the ludicrously inexpensive Penny and the Nunez twins away for a "proven closer".

A lot of this ground was covered in Ben's diary entry over there----------------->
entitled "Worst trade?"

SPB

by stephen on Jan 26, 2007 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What about Danny Bautista ?
That 3 yr , 9 million dollar deal always bothered me for a few reasons.

First of all you don't give a guy 3 yrs 9 million and hand him the starting right field job because of one good post season. He always had low OBP, moderate power, and was never going to be much more than he was, despite his hot start to 2002.

Secondly, choosing DB over Reggie Sanders is what ultimately led to going after Sexson, indirectly of course. The fact is, for all his K's and other warts, Reggie was a good power bat that had to be respected.

From 2002-2004 Reggie got paid a grand total of 4,750,000 from other teams, or roughly half DB;s cost. During that time, he averaged 25 homers and 80 RBI while putting up OPS+ of   111, 134, 105.  He even averaged 18 stolen bases those 3 season.

Danny Bautista was enjoying a great start in 2002, but by the time he hurt his shoulder, had already started to regress a bit.  His OPS+ for those 3 seasons was 119, 80,87 while averaging 7 homers and 41 RBI.

At the time they dumped Reggie and signed DB to a 3 year deal I was quite upset. I was temporarily "wrong" for a couple months in 2002, but ultimately, my fears about the lack of HR power in the lineup were justified, and it led to arguably the most disastrous trade ANY team has made in the last 20 years.

by shoewizard on Jan 25, 2007 12:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice find
I couldn't find the details of that deal anywhere.  I'd rank that above the Grace deal too.  I was never really sure why Sanders wasn't brought back.

by nihil67 on Jan 25, 2007 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly worth an honorable mention...
Yep, we should definitely have held onto Sanders: Bautista was never much - before coming to AZ, from 1993-2000, he had one season with an OPS+ above 86. It was a fairly low-cost contract though, which is why I don't regard it too badly: I mean, we paid Quinton McCracken $3m for three seasons of 79 OPS+, which is probably more a waste in my eyes.

by Jim McLennan on Jan 25, 2007 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sanders
Hey shoe! (and Ben and Jim)

I don't disagree re: Sanders at all. Never understood letting him walk.

But considering that San Diego, Atlanta, San Francisco, and Pittsburgh ALL let this guy walk after one year each ('99 - '03) - a stretch in which he put up some pretty solid numbers - well. . . I have come to wonder what that was all about.

Off field issues notwithstanding, the guy impressed the crap out of me and we sure could have used a RH power bat (not to mention one of the few "real" MLB RFers we have ever had) in the lineup for a few years. Moreover, at 1-2mm per year, he was VERY affordable.

Very strange five years for Mr. Sanders.

SPB

by stephen on Jan 26, 2007 12:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unrelated
Do we have an approximate schedule for the community projections?  I've got mine all calculated and I'm itching to see what everyone else has got for some of these guys.

by nihil67 on Jan 25, 2007 2:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Approximate schedule of upcoming projections
January 27 - Infielders
February 3 - Outfielders
February 10 - Rotation
February 17 - Bullpen
February 24 - Top Home Run Hitter?
March 3 - Highest BA?
March 10 - Most wins? [Rotation]
March 17 - Lowest ERA? [Bullpen]
March 24 - How many wins for the D'backs?

by Jim McLennan on Jan 25, 2007 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fabregas
How does Jorge Fabregas' 1998 deal not at LEAST make honerable mention? Arizona whips his butt soundly in arbirtation. . . then Jerry tears up the winning contract and awards the bum a 2-year deal for $2.9mm.

The Dbacks' $875,000 offer was judged the winner - a nonetheless very rich increase from the $275,000 Jorge made in 1997 and pretty fair dust for a mediocre backstop with a 68 OPS+. (What J-Fab's agent was thinking when he asked for $1.5mm is beyond me.)

But no - Jerry wants to foster goodwill and demonstrate what a joke the arb process is. Well, the joke he 'demonstrated' was not exactly what he had in mind.

Considering how unnecessary it was, that's easily a worse deal than several on the list.

SPB

by stephen on Jan 25, 2007 11:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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