SnakeBytes, 1/7: 2012 Arrives
Pitchers and catchers report next month. It's cool to be able to say this, and know winter will soon be over. Seems like a lot shorter off-season this year. Wonder if that's perhaps the case when you're going through the winter as the reigning division champion? There's not quite as much urgency to get to next season, for your chance at redemption. Of course, even for the division winners, there's room for improvement, and I'm still looking forward to the Cactus League. Though remembering how badly we performed there last season (finishing dead last, with a 12-25 record), the meaningless of spring training results will be particularly clear this year...
Spring in the Air
- [AZCentral] Diamondbacks announce spring-training reporting dates, non-roster invitees - "Pitchers and catchers will report Feb. 20 with their first workout Feb. 21. Position players will report on Feb. 25 with the first full-squad workout on Feb. 26. Workouts are open to the public."
- [dbacks.com] D-backs' brass gearing up for Spring Training - Each player who will be in Major League camp was also discussed. "We went through them all," Gibson said. "We watched video clips on them and had good discussions on everybody. We're just trying to get everyone's perspective. Different people have different information, different perspectives, so we want them to share it. We're trying to get better."
- [FoxSportsArizona[ Plenty of young arms vying for D-backs rotation - "With a stocked farm system that is heavy on young pitching, the D-backs have a host of in-house candidates for the fifth spot, with Wade Miley maybe a smidge ahead of the pack entering spring training"
Prospect pulse
- [dbacks.com] D-backs' Derrick Hall holds court with fans in January Web chat - Bauer and Skaggs. "They will both receive spring starts and will pitch a number of innings as part of the competition... We need to make sure they are developed and mature enough before rushing them though, and their spring outings will determine a great deal."
- [milb.com] Prospect Q&A: Bauer gets taste of pros - "I don't work out in the weight room. I do mostly strength and conditioning stuff that's focused on moving quick and body mass. I have to generate velocity by creating tension in the body and releasing it all in sequence, getting a summation of force rather than brute strength it. All my workouts are focused on that, building up strength and fast-twitch movements.
- [Seedlings To Stars] 2012 Top 100 Prospects, #5: Tyler Skaggs - "His performance for his age in Double-A was borderline historic, and he’s at least above-average on every scouting attribute, and he could improve further due to his youth and projection."
And the rest...
- [AZ Central] Diamondbacks not interested in trading Gerardo Parra - "I'm not really motivated to move him," Towers said. "I think it's a good fit. I think Parra will still play a lot."
- [Yahoo!] Diamondbacks’ long-term talks with Miguel Montero stalling - This is also mentioned in the above story, but I figure it deserves its own acknowledgment. "Part of the problem, Towers noted, is that there haven't been a lot of long-term contracts signed in recent years for catchers so it's difficult to find a comparable to work with."
- [Diary of a Diehard] Constant Reminders of Past Mistakes- "Diamondbacks fans may have seen an outfield of Upton, Young, and Quentin/Gonzalez. We wouldn’t be wondering where that middle of the order bat is that could drive in runs.
- [dbacks.com] D-backs open to adding depth to end of starting rotation - "We're kind of just bottom-fishing, trying to buy low and hopefully catch lightening in a bottle on a guy that's maybe coming off a bad year or somebody that's left out there with no real job that sees an opportunity," Towers said.
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Quick straw poll
Should I include Kirk Gibson and/or Kevin Towers and nominees for the ’Pitties MVP?
Discuss…
"There's one rule by which I generally run my life:
What would Mothra do?"
That's tough
I think you should include them, just to see how many votes they get. It would be interesting to see the debates, especially if one of them wins
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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 7, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
No
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Just wondering
but what’s your reasoning behind that?
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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 7, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
entertainment value
He wants to see blue bulldog’s and mine head asplode when KT comes in a close 2nd
The worst major leaguer is better at baseball than I'll ever be at anything I ever do in my life.
by shoewizard on Jan 7, 2012 5:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of "asplode"
the syntax, grammar, and general weirdness of that sentence has created elevated cranial pressure in a particular older SnakePit commenter. Ow.
Yeah, what NASCARbernet said...
That would be funny
I might vote for KT just to see that ;-)
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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 7, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
one of those two
probably win it
*tears
by blue bulldog on Jan 7, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Can't decide which Dylan line would be more appropriate,
“Bury the rag deep in your face, for now’s the time for your tears”
or
" Farewell Angelina, The sky is erupting, I must go where it is quiet."
or
“This place don’t make sense to me no more.”
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
No
Non-Towers-Era pickups prominently featured on the 2011 D-backs: Kennedy, Hudson, Collmenter, Saunders, Miley, Montero, Roberts, Drew, KJ, Goldschmidt, Parra, CY, Upton, Shaw.
This isn’t a bash on Towers – after all, there was no reason to fix holes that didn’t exist just for the sake of the team being full of his guys. He did a great job with the bullpen, gave us a legitimate backup shortstop option (mediocre as Bloomquist is, Bloomquist >>> Abreu), assembled an all-around good staff, and didn’t try to fix the parts that weren’t broken. That’s one solid year of work, but it is just one year. He’s in charge, but this isn’t exactly strictly the fruits of his labor.
As for Gibson, 1) Bloomquist leadoff, 2) You don’t know how much was him and how much was Nagy/Baylor/Trammell/Williams/EY/Sherlock, 3) If you include the rest of the coaching staff, it’s no longer a singular MVP, and 4) Willie Bloomquist leadoff.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jan 8, 2012 8:54 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd vote no
…because Upton and Kennedy have had such tangibly terrific years, which I think warrant a fairly undiluted MVP “debate” and winner. I think it would be a little insulting to either of their performances, if KT/Gibby either won or diluted the vote against them.
The intangible culture stufff is fun to speculate about, and there’s half a dozen nice stories there, but if the culture is defined as ‘winning’, nobody was more ‘cultured’ than Upton and Kennedy.
Let’s get it on.
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
…nobody was more ‘cultured’ than Upton and Kennedy.
Let me rephrase that. They were sufficiently ‘cultured’ to deserve their own MVP showdown, against flesh and blood teammates. I actually believe in intangibles a lot, and am open to the idea that some non-player had more impact in the standings than our best player.
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
Gil Hodges
1969
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Hodges, a black cat
…and some strategically applied shoepolish…I wuz actually there for some of that, proud to say.. I knew what ‘amazing’ meant, but too young then to grasp ‘intangibles’ much ;-)
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
heh.....
That was my “coming of age” season.
Grew up on Long Island. Metzmerized by the whole thing.
The worst major leaguer is better at baseball than I'll ever be at anything I ever do in my life.
Good times
My folks lived in Brooklyn, not too far from Hodges’ house actually, then moved to Connecticut that August. I was more a confused Yankee fan (age 8), waiting for the post-Mantle Yanks to do something, anything, interesting in my lifetime.
Then Amazing happened.
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
It took that for me to get over the
Dodgers leaving Brooklyn.
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Were you in Brooklyn?
How much of the old Dodgers did you get to see?
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
by Diamondhacks on Jan 7, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
From North Jersey,
lots of radio, but never live.
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Vin Scully
…better than ‘live’ :-)
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
Don't know about better,
but he was, and amazingly still is good.
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Colin Cogwell begs to differ
"There's one rule by which I generally run my life:
What would Mothra do?"
Let's play that game, Jim
Clearly, Hemingway was a terrible writer because he had difficulty with punctuation and grammar, right?
sententia Platonis semper in ore illius fuit, florere civitates si aut philosophi imperarent aut imperantes philosopharentur
Unfortunately Metzmerized now has more to do with
The Dark Side of the Force than Baseball.
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Ah, how could I have forgotten the
Cat and the Polish. A wicked potion it was.
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Werent there at least two
polish incidents, spotted (or orchestrated by) Hodges?
I remember Cleon in the World Series, but I thought there was one prior in the regular season. JC Martin maybe?
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
by Diamondhacks on Jan 7, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
JC Martin was the baseline running incident
From Wikipedia
In Game Four of that [1969 World] Series, his Mets leading two games to one, Martin was involved in a controversial play. With the game tied 1-1 in the bottom of the 10th and pinch-runner Rod Gaspar on second, Martin, again pinch-hitting for Seaver, bunted to the mound and, while running to first, was hit on the arm by Pete Richert’s errant throw, the error allowing Gaspar to score the winning run. Replays later showed that Martin had been running inside the baseline, which could have resulted in him being called out for interference; however, the umpires said they didn’t make the call because they felt Martin didn’t intentionally interfere with the play. As a result of this play, the running lane that extends from halfway down the first-base line to the bag was added to all major league fields. A runner can be running in this lane and be hit by a thrown ball and not be called for interference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.C.Martin
The worst major leaguer is better at baseball than I'll ever be at anything I ever do in my life.
Yeah, thanks
…I know about that. But in this Series clip, Lindsey Nelson refers to ‘another’ shoe polish incident at Shea. Just after the 7:45 mark.
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
by Diamondhacks on Jan 8, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Wow...great catch
I had no memory of a previous shoe polish incident. Such a brief mention too…..I’m impressed
The worst major leaguer is better at baseball than I'll ever be at anything I ever do in my life.
oops
link fail
(Why put a link icon above the posting box if it doesn’t work ?)
http://www.thebaseballzealot.com/arizona-fall-league/scottsdale-superfan-susan-price
The worst major leaguer is better at baseball than I'll ever be at anything I ever do in my life.
That foghorn
is tangible enough for me to always sit on the first base side
Reporters asked the Phillies' skipper how his pitcher had managed to injure himself in his sleep. "I don’t know," Manuel said. "I didn’t sleep with him."
That foghorn is tangible enough
To make me say “STFU” during BP…I get sick of her deep voice chanting the SAME thing over and over like a broken record!
I miss you Bazooka Joe!!!
Rockkstarr12: 2011 Bryman School Graduate & Die-hard Diamondback/Rockie Fan
by Rockkstarr12 on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
as long as it's not here, but
here.
"At times I think there are no words
But these to tell me what's true
There are no truths outside The Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Oh I get it
yeah it doesn’t work in the subject, you’re right
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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 8, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions

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