Tale of the Tape: Diamondbacks vs. Brewers
Saturday sees the start of the National League Division series between the Arizona Diamondbacks and Milwaukee Brewers. It looks set to be a intriguing series, already described by one neutral as having "the makings of the most competitive first-round matchup." Arizona won the regular-season series 4-3, but last faced Milwaukee on July 21. Since then, the Brewers have been the hottest team in baseball, going 43-19. However, the D-backs are not far behind, with a 41-22 record. Let's take a look at each position and see how the teams stack up.
Catcher
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Miguel Montero | .282 | .351 | .469 | .820 | 121 | 4.5 | 4.3 |
| Jonathan Lucroy | .265 | .313 | .391 | .703 | 90 | 0.6 | 1.9 |
No National League catcher appeared in more games than Montero, whose 140 tied him with the Marlins' John Buck, and easily set a franchise record. He fully deserved that near ever-present status, also setting team marks for homers, RBI, hits and runs from the position. as well as the best OPS by a qualifying player. He also improved markedly on defense during the season. Despite missing the start of the year, Lucroy saw only four games less than Montero, and the 25-year old held his own in his first full major-league season. However, in most aspects of the game Montero is the superior player. Advantage: Arizona
First-base
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Paul Goldschmidt |
.250 | .333 | .474 | .808 | 117 | 0.1 | 0.7 |
| Prince Fielder |
.299 | .415 | .566 | .981 | 164 | 5.2 | 5.6 |
Goldschmidt has certainly had his moments since getting the call from Double-A, including his apparent pwnage of Tim Lincecum. However, a high strikeout rate suggest he still has some learning to do. With less than 50 games in the majors, that's understandable, but the post-season isn't a learning environment. Fielder has had another amazing season, and in another year, would be getting MVP talk. Walked more than he struck out, which 30+ HR hitters like Fielder don't do [since 2004, Albert Pujols and Adrian Gonzalez are the only other NL hitters to do it]. Clearly likes hitting in Chase, at the Home-Run Derby showed. Advantage: Milwaukee.
Second-base
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Aaron Hill |
.315 | .386 | .492 | .878 | 137 | 1.7 | 1.6 |
| Rickie Weeks |
.269 | .350 | .468 | .818 | 121 | 3.0 | 3.7 |
The question of who has the advantage here is likely another question: which Hill will show up in the post-season? Toronto Hill, with 22 extra-base hits in 104 games, or Arizona Hill, who has 16 extra-base hits in 33 games, and an OPS almost three hundred points higher? While overall season numbers favor Weeks, he missed all of August with a sprained ankle, and over 14 games since his return has hit .243 with a .743 OPS. compared to .272/.825 before the injury. If he returns to full health, and the exchange rate for Canadian Hills goes into the toilet, it could give the edge to the Brewers, but there's too much uncertainty to call. Advantage: even
Short-stop
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Willie Bloomquist |
.266 | .317 | .340 | .657 | 79 | -0.2 | 0.2 |
| Yuniesky Betancourt | .252 | .271 | .381 | .652 | 75 | 0.7 | 0.6 |
Yes, you read that correctly. Willie will not be the lightest-hitting shortstop in this series. They are kinda similar: better known for their glove than their bat, but Bloomquist does have occasional plate discipline. If we walk Betancourt, I'm calling in an air-strike as no qualifying batter had fewer bases on balls this year - only 16 in 584 PAs. Yes, he walked less than Vladimir Guerrero this season. Bloomquist has been adequate as a Drewplacement, but should not be hitting at the top of the order. And, given his fondness of OOBs, should be nailed to first-base if he reaches there. Advantage (such as it is): Arizona.
Third-base
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Ryan Roberts |
.249 | .341 | .427 | .768 | 108 | 3.4 | 3.4 |
| Casey McGehee | .223 | .280 | .346 | .626 | 69 | -1.0 | 0.3 |
After hitting .291 in 2009-10, with an .823 OPS, McGehee has just about fallen off the face of the Brewers' map this season, with his offensive numbers down across the board. And he's been even worse of late, going 9-for-74 - that's hitting at a .132 clip - in the month of September. That makes Roberts' September struggles, where he's batting .205, look positively Ruthian. Perhaps his 10th-inning heroics on Tuesday might spark Roberts back to the form he showed earlier, hitting .313 in April. But even if he doesn't, he should still be better than McGehee. Advantage: Arizona.
Left=field
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Gerardo Parra |
.292 | .357 | .427 | .784 | 113 | 1.9 | 2.8 |
| Ryan Braun | .332 | .397 | .597 | .994 | 166 | 7.7 | 7.8 |
This is only the second year in baseball history with three 30/30/.300 players. This year, Jacob Ellsbury, Matt Kemp and Braun have done it - we have the joy of facing the last-named in this series, as he waits to find out whether voters have picked him or Kemp as League MVP. Don't envy our pitchers their job. Parra has been a very nice surprise for us this season - anyone pick him to have the best batting average of any qualifying D-back? Thought not. His defense has also been exquisite; however, that's about the only area in which he can compete with Braunosaurus Rex. Advantage: Ariz...oh, who am I kidding? Milwaukee.
Center-field
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Chris Young | .236 | .331 | .420 | .751 | 103 | 4.8 | 4.8 |
| Nyjer Morgan |
.304 | .357 | .421 | .778 | 111 | 2.0 | 4.1 |
This one's interesting. It will probably be Morgan, but Carlos Gomez started 58 games there, so we might see him there, especially vs. Saunders, as Morgan has hit LHP at only a .540 OPS clip this season. Most of the difference in bWAR and fWAR are sharoly differing opinions on Morgan's defense, which fWAR rates considerably higher. It's interesting to note the gulf in batting average, but how much closer Young and Morgan are in OBP, where Young's value has quietly been stacking up. On a head-to-head basis, Young is probably the slightly better overall, but if the Brewers platoon Gomez, that would counter our edge. Advantage: even.
Right-field
| BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Justin Upton |
.289 | .369 | .529 | .898 | 141 | 4.1 | 6.5 |
| Corey Hart |
.285 | .356 | .510 | .866 | 133 | 4.0 | 4.2 |
This should be fun. Two of the best right-fielders in the league (by either set of WAR), men whose seasons will have left both teams very satisfied, going head-to-head. What's unusual is that, despite his similar numbers to Upton, Hart could be the Brewers' lead-off hitter - he has more starts there than anywhere else in the order. This is what having Braun and Fielder does for line-up construction. Upton's offensive numbers are better, and I'd say his defense as well overall, but I'm concerned by his recent form. He has had a bad last three weeks, while Harrt went a solid .284/.343/.526. That form shifts the balance. Advantage: even.
Rotation #1
| W | L | ERA | IP | BB | K | ERA+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Ian Kennedy | 21 | 4 | 2.88 | 222.0 | 55 | 198 | 137 | 5.5 | 5.0 |
| Yovani Gallardo | 17 | 10 | 3.52 | 207.1 | 59 | 207 | 111 | 2.6 | 3.1 |
This is where things get interesting, with the decision by Brewers management to start Greinke in their final game, on short rest, even though the only thing at stake was home-field advantage. That appears to rule him out of Game 2 according to their manager. In terms of pitching match--ups, that would be a huge boost for Arizona in the first two games, because Gallardo is...not Greinke. Kennedy started once against the Brewers, and blanked them for seven innings on four hits. Gallardo is almost as good, allowing two runs over 13 innings in his two starts against us. However, it's not enough, Advantage: Arizona.
Rotation #2
| W | L | ERA | IP | BB | K | ERA+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Daniel Hudson |
16 | 12 | 3.49 | 222.0 | 50 | 169 | 113 | 2.6 | 4.8 |
| Shaun Marcum |
13 | 7 | 3.54 | 200.2 | 57 | 158 | 110 | 3.3 | 2.7 |
This one would be a repeat match-up of one of 2011's most memorable games for Arizona, the July 4th contest which featured a grand-slam by one starting pitcher (Marcum), which forced Arizona to come back from 6-1 down to beat Axford in the ninth. Neither starter exactly shone that day, and both will be seeking to improve on those performances. Again, the with-holding of Greinke helps Arizona, as a Hudson-Marcum match-up could be close to a wash, when a Hudson-Gallardo one might not be. Hudson has lost his last three outings, but in terms of raw stuff, is as good as anyone - if he can harness it on the day, and avoid a bad first inning. Advantage: even.
Rotation #3
| W | L | ERA | IP | BB | K | ERA+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Joe Saunders |
12 | 13 | 3.69 | 212.0 | 67 | 108 | 107 | 2.4 | 1.0 |
| Zack Greinke |
16 | 8 | 3.83 | 171.2 | 45 | 201 | 102 | 1.6 | 3.9 |
The other weird thing about waiting to Game 3 to use Greinke - unless they do so on short rest - is his home/road split. In Miller Park, he has gone 11-0 with a 3.13 ERA; everywhere else, he sports a much more mortal 4.70 ERA, to go with a 5-6 record. He did pitch well enough at Chase, allowing two runs in seven, but still took the loss, courtesy of Kennedy's better performance mentioned above. Saunders has had his moments this year, saving his best for when it matters most, and games don't get any bigger than the post-season. He'll need to avoid walking people, and be on his A-game. Advantage: Milwaukee.
Rotation #4
| W | L | ERA | IP | BB | K | ERA+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| Josh Collmenter |
10 | 10 | 3.38 | 154.1 | 28 | 100 | 117 | 2.4 | 2.2 |
| Randy Wolf |
13 | 10 | 3.69 | 212.1 | 66 | 134 | 106 | 3.0 | 1.4 |
This time last year, Collmenter had just finished a season that started in A-ball. Do you think he ever thought that, 12 months later, he would be gearing up for a start in the National League Division Series? The good news for Arizona is that he absolutely dominated the Brewers line-up both times he faced them: 14 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 10 K. Meanwhile, Wolf led the Brewers in innings pitched; on the other hand, the veteran southpaw had an ERA above six against Arizona in his pair of outings, losing both contests, so 2011's form definitely favors Collmenter. Advantage: Arizona.
Set-up
| WHIP | ERA | IP | BB | K | ERA+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| David Hernandez |
1.139 | 3.38 | 69.1 | 30 | 77 | 117 | 1.1 | 1.3 |
| Francisco Rodriguez | 1.138 | 1.86 | 29.0 | 10 | 33 | 212 | 1.1 | 0.8 |
Rodriguez came over from the Mets, where he was the closer, and is apparently not happy with his new role as a set-up man. That hasn't affected his performance, as the numbers show, and he has not been scored upon in his last 16 appearances for the Brewers. Hernandez's ERA is skewed by a couple of really bad games: he has been unscored on in 81% of his outings this year, with just five of 74 resulting in more than one run. His last run allowed was September 6. Both teams are very good at holding leads: in games where they were leading after seven, Milwaukee are 79-6, Arizona 73-4. Advantage: even.
Closer
| WHIP | ERA | IP | BB | K | ERA+ | bWAR | fWAR | |
| J.J. Putz |
0.914 | 2.17 | 58.0 | 12 | 61 | 182 | 2.1 | 1.7 |
| John Axford |
1.140 | 1.95 | 73.2 | 25 | 86 | 200 | 2.7 | 1.9 |
Similar here. When leading after the eighth, the Brewers and D-backs are a combined 165-1, and that loss was all the way back on Opening Day, when Axford allowed four runs in the ninth at Cincinnati. . So, whoever is winning after the seventh inning, regardless of which team that might be, is very, very likely to be the winner. I love Putz's control, with just 1.86 walks per nine innings - he just doesn't allow many base-runners. But Axford's K-rate of 10.5 is slightly better than Putz (9.5). Amazing to think Axford was released outright by the Yankees. In the past couple of years, he has been among the best in the game. Then again, so has Putz... Advantage: even.
Conclusions
This promises to be a close series, and I would not be surprised to see it go all the way. In terms of overall strength, the Brewers have the firepower, but I genuinely think that their mis-use of Greinke could turn out to be a significant tactical error. If Arizona can get a split of the first two games in Milwaukee, and without having to face Greinke, that seems quite possible, than they can come back home, knowing that even if the lose Game 3, they face a pitcher in Game 4 (Wolf), whom they have already beaten twice. Truly, I can see this one potentially coming down to a Game 5 back in Milwaukee, and if it's Kennedy against Gallardo once more, I'd not mind a winner-take all game.
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I love how
A lot of writers are having a field day with the home field advantage edge that the Brewers have.
For example:
I really think that the key here is going to be home field advantage and the Brewers have it. Nobody beats Milwaukee at home…
- Per All Sports Talk
LOL at fact checking.
Wear your own fur.
Not Sure What's Wrong
with that statement. The Brewers have the best home-record in all of the Majors. It is clearly an advantage. What kind of fact-checking are you looking for?
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
"Nobody beats Milwaukee at home…"
April 25-27. Cincinnati beat Milwaukee at home
June 7-9: New York beat Milwaukee at home
June 20-22: Tampa Bay beat Milwaukee at home
August 30-September 1: St. Louis beat Milwaukee at home
September 8-10: Philadelphia beat Milwaukee at home
and perhaps most importantly:
July 4-6: Arizona beat Milwaukee at home
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I Doubt Anyone
Seriously believes that Milwaukee went undefeated at home. Sure teams win and lose all the time – it’s baseball, not college football. I want the D’backs to win as badly as anyone, but the writer has a point. It was a series analysis, not a breakdown of every single one of the 162 regular season games.
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a series preview
And instead of providing some logical and reasonable stats (maybe something mentioning how the D-backs won the series in Milwaukee earlier in the year) the writer focused on the huge advantage the Brewers would have because of home field.
Seems silly to me.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Sep 30, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What are your
Logical and reasonable stats that make you think that the D’backs will beat the Brewers?
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
We've already done it?
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That may be true
but the series was fairly even (4-3 dbacks) which isn’t quite enough for me to decidedly say that Arizona will win. Do the D’backs have better pitching? Bullpen? Hitters?
Games in June and July are cute, but it really doesn’t matter much come October.
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And just
how are the Brewers in October, out of curiosity? Your last statement is quite ironic.
I never claimed
that the Brewers would win. I was just asking you to give me some information as to why you think that the D’backs would beat them. Something other than “we already did it” would be nice.
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I never put
any words into your mouth. Just thought your last statement was funny in relation to the conversation.
I think it goes to show
That there are enough stats and numbers from a 162 game season to draw just about any conclusion you want (whether brewers or dbacks fan). There is a reason why they play the games (cliche’) and I’m excited to watch.
I just come in here and see people ripping a post (that i doubt anyone even read) because it didn’t pick Arizona to win.
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure
a post with actual reasoning would have gone over better. People are pretty level-headed on this site, and can appreciate reason.
by BigLeagueAZ on Sep 30, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actual quote from the site:
These are two of the best offenses in the National League… I really think that the key here is going to be home field advantage… it could be the difference in an otherwise pretty tight (on paper) series.
If you read the article, the author basically said that this series was neck and neck and that if anything might be the difference, it would be that Milwaukee plays better at home than anyone in the Majors.
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So neither do statistics based off those games
Really, I think the mishandling of Greinke – either using him on back to back outings with short rest, or not until Game 3 – counters any slight edge the Brewers might have had. To me,. this is the most evenly-matched of all the series.
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
It is very even, and hopefully the D’backs can pull it out. Both teams enter the series pretty hot – just how you want to be playing in October.
by patsbaseball11 on Sep 30, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Making statements like "Nobody beats Milwaukee at home" all the dumber
Worth at least a passing mention, surely, is that Arizona did exactly that in July, especially against three of the four starting pitchers we’ll be facing here. And the Brewers didn’t see Kennedy that series either – they faced Zach Duke instead.
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
different defensive metrics play into that
has nothing to do with offense in that difference
Arizona Diamondbacks: 94-67 NL West Champs
New England Patriots: 2-1
by freeland1787 on Sep 30, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
"Tomorrow" sees the start?
Um, not so much tomorrow as Saturday, right? :)
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gotta love postseason fever
it makes everyone excited to where the games cant start quick enough
Arizona Diamondbacks: 94-67 NL West Champs
New England Patriots: 2-1
by freeland1787 on Sep 30, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was originally going to post this Friday AM
But you failed to correct this, because…
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Cuz the last time I thought you were wrong,
I was wrong. So I didn’t want to be wrong again. :)
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by snakecharmer on Sep 30, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Though apparently, not enough to not mention it...
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel so much more comfortable about this series with Aaron Hill being here
He is an actual offensive threat and a huge reason we finished so strong.
This
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 30, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL. I actually laughed at how ironic this statement is.
Without being meant ironically at all!
thoughts
this match up is really interesting imo, because we actually are pretty similar. great back ends of the bullpen. strong position players, though ours is backed by defense, while theirs is backed by firepower. and similarly decent pitchers.
i’m exceedingly glad that it looks like we’ll only be facing Greinke once.
i hate to say it, but Game 1 is almost a must-win for us. Kennedy and Hudson are better than Gallardo and Marcum, respectively, but i don’t feel comfortable knowing Hudson’s penchant for bad 1st innings to go into Game 2 down a game. and at this point, i’m sort of just considering Game 3 a throw away. if we win it, that’s pretty awesome (and don’t get me wrong, i think we still have like a 40% chance at winning it), but i’m not really thinking about it.
really, if i were Gibson, i’d be considering throwing IPK and Hudson on short rest for Games 4 and 5 respectively. i don’t care if we’re up 2-1 at that point. i am a little concerned at this point, with their innings pitched totals. and if we go deep into the postseason, it’s only going to get worse. definitely slightly scared they pull a Mat Latos on us next year.
but at this point, now that we’re in the postseason, it’s time to fire on all cylinders. ideally, we’d go IPK, Hudson, Collmenter, IPK, Hudson. but we know Collmenter for sure isn’t going to start Game 3. so i’d rather us go IPK, Hudson, Saunders for Game 3 on a short leash (auto pull him after five innings, regardless of how well he’s done, and let Collmenter go two innings after him). Then IPK and Hudson for Games 4 and 5 respectively.
Collmenter
I’d feel so much better about things if I thought Collmenter had a chance in hell of starting Game 3. I really think Arizona would stand a better chance of winning if he was out there. I’m especially considering the fact that Saunders is fairly effective on the road, but just not good at Chase.
by azshadowwalker on Sep 30, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Rather
“I’m especially worried, considering…”
by azshadowwalker on Sep 30, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind it so much
IF Greinke is starting Game 3. He is probably the best pitcher on either side, so it almost makes sense to put Saunders up against him. I’m not counting us winning that one at all, but like our chances a lot in Game 4 with Collmenter facing Wolf.
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
He's starting game two on short rest.
They will not start him on the road because he has been terrible on the road.
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
That certainly makes sense, but still seems in serious doubt
After the game against Pittsburgh, Roenicke said he didn’t really want to bring back Greinke on short rest again for Game 2. “I would say he’s ruled out of Game 2,” Roenicke said in his postgame media session. "I was a little uncomfortable bringing him back today, and I don’t think it’s fair to bring him back again on three days unless he comes to me and says, ‘I feel great. Things are locked in.’
“I don’t even know if I’ll let him have that option.”
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
They should
save him for Game 4
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They definitely should
although I’d like to see Greinke pitch at some point.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 30, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
JIm, i also saw
They now have Greinke slated for game 2 as of last night about 11pm. Honestly, i love that. Let them shoot themself in the foot. He has never comeback twice on short rest in a row. He WILL be tired. And i think we will tee off on him.
Also, he most likely wont pitch past 6 innings even if he is doing well. And if he does we will get to him that 3rd time around, or we will get to the bullpen.
Freeze it..and make a popsicle
I remember
the Brewers doing this with another “ace” of theirs. Didn’t work out too well that time. I honestly think IPK is better than Greinke, and I certainly don’t think he’s unbeatable. In fact, I think we’ll win whatever game he pitches. Even if it is Game 3 with Saunders.
i dunno
i would take Greinke, on short rest, over any of the guys in our rotation
it’s close….again at most 60/40 advantage in any given game Greinke pitches….but it’s still an advantage imo
by blue bulldog on Sep 30, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take Greinke, too
I’m considered game 3 a loss for us if Greinke pitches. Especially if Saunders is pitching. I really wish we would pitch Collmenter considering how well he pitched vs. the Brewers this season.
I was curious
Everyone has been saying that Greinke’s home/road splits are bad, and they do appear that way. But his ERA has been kind of problematic all year, especially compared to his FIP. It’s really not home/road splits for him, but a tale of two halves of the season. Post All Star break (home or away), he’s been one of the best pitchers in baseball.
Home ERA (after July 12) – 2.35
Road ERA (after July 12) – 2.93
The real issue is Marcum’s home/road splits – he has been terrible at home all year. So if Greinke does go game 2, it’s even more significant since it will confirm Marcum for game three in AZ.
Joe was good his previous two outings at home
But had a bad game on his last one. I’d say he’s not too shabby at home
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 30, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
one other random note
i would seriously consider starting Jarrod Parker, if we made it to the NLCS. heck, i’d start him in the NLDS if it weren’t for the fact that we seem hell bent on making IPK, Hudson, and Saunders our 1, 2, 3.
his command obviously still isn’t where we want it to be. but depending on how good our coaches think his control is (ability to just pump strikes), then i’d seriously just throw him in there, and let his natural stuff and the opposing offenses unfamiliarity do the rest. as long as he doesn’t walk opposing hitters, i don’t think either the Brewers or the Phillies/Cardinals will be able to touch him, just based on one game’s worth of video. we could even tag team him with Collmenter.
or another random thought..
Have collmenter pitch two or three innings, then parker, and throw in owings in there for an inning or two. That would be quite the change up throughout the game
Plus
Even if Collmenter or Parker give up a bunch of runs, I still expect Micah to magically get the win somehow.
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
Should we just call him "The Magician"?
OR “Lucky”?
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The Impossible Win
is my suggestion
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by imstillhungry95 on Sep 30, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see Micah
finding his way into any games except as a pinch hitter or to mop up innings in a blowout the wrong way.
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
by sonic barracuda on Sep 30, 2011 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL, exactly!
I laughed when Candiotti called him “a good luck charm” after that RyRo grand slam.
Well, he seemed to turn around
another game earlier in the year, but I cant remember it now. It was one at night though.
I got nothin'.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Have Collmenter start, but only go through the lineup twice. Then, in comes Parker. Or maybe even a lefty.
No way. Parker has proved nothing.
and I also doubt they use him out of the pen too.
Now if we are talking two innings then that’s another story. In that case I’m all for three innings of Collmenter and then two of Parker.
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
that's the whole point
he’s a rookie, so noone has any information on him. just look at what happened in his first start. he wasn’t missing bats, command was wobbly, and he still dominated. because the pure stuff is just that good.
by blue bulldog on Sep 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
As much as I agree with this
I’m trying to figure out how Gibby can come up with the reasoning to not start Saunders. I don’t see it. It will be Saunders in game three on a short leash, with maybe Parker standing by to enter early. And if Saunders pitches poorly and we somehow move on I can see parker taking his spot in the rotation for the next series.
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
by sonic barracuda on Sep 30, 2011 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
There is no way that Parker should be starting a playoff game, much less in the NLCS. 5.2 major league innings simply isn’t enough experience to be thrust into that kind of situation.
Is Parker even eligible for the postseason roster? I can’t remember the rules regarding that.
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by Stupendous Man on Sep 30, 2011 8:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He can replace
anyone on the DL (if I read that right)
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by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 30, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Welp
might as well not play the series.
Nearly every pundit has picked Milwaukee to win this one. I’ve seen one say that this series is the biggest mismatch of all the series. I’m not really sure how that’s possible, considering that their numbers are nearly identical, but what do I know? I’m just an internet person.
Tomorrow is another day.
But they're "experts"!
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Biggest mismatch? Was this person not aware of the other NL matchup?
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Dunno
I asked him, and he said it was mainly the pitching matchup that caused him to say that. I’m like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
Tomorrow is another day.
He could have just said
“I like the Brewers uniforms better” and it would have been equally informed.
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MLB netwrok analysts last night
Had Brewers beating us. All of them. Yet when they broke it down, AZ had better Defense, and Lower ERA, also a better team batting avg. So they picked Brewers of course.
Freeze it..and make a popsicle
INTANGIBLES?
Also, I’ve noticed some pundits dinging us for playoff experience. Like the Brewers have much more “playoff experience” than AZ.
Tomorrow is another day.
Yup,
That 4-game NLDS loss in 2008 that none of their pitchers were around for really gave them the experience necessary to beat a team like us.
2007: Anybody, Anytime
2011: Justin Upton, All the Time
by Zavada's Moustache on Sep 30, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We will quake in fear
knowing that Greinke is starting game 3.
I’m sorry, I think I broke the sarcasm meter on that one.
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by Reynolds rapper on Sep 30, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Even more remarkably
This was not on Bleacher Report…
However The Hardball Times is only 12-7 for Milwaukee, which seems much more reasonable to me.
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That seems
a more reasonable split. I’d give this series a very unscientific 60/40 split favored for Milwaukee. They have the trump card of home field, so the D-backs need to take one of the first two games. But even if it’s favored Brew Crew doesn’t mean the D-backs are going to lay down and die.
Tomorrow is another day.
And, really,
I think with the make-up of this team, they’ll go out there knowing the predictions and want to prove those “experts” wrong.
#GIBBYBALL
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by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 30, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
With. Their. Teeth
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 30, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
i think the Cardinals have the edge over the Phillies
it’s probably close to 50/50 for me, but put a gun to my head, i’d pick the Cardinals
by blue bulldog on Sep 30, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard two very smart guys on MLB Network radio
Both predict the Cardinals to have a better chance against the Phillies than the DBacks against the Brewers, I believe they said 1. Phillies in 5, Brewers in 4 2. Phillies in 4, Brewers sweep. I almost called into the show at that point, but I had to go back to work.
The main theme
seems to be that the Diamondbacks are “playing over their heads” and they’re due for an instant regression. To the people predicting the results, our breakout players are a serious liability.
But with a few exceptions, isn’t that the norm for playoff seasons? Unless your team is unusually stacked with talent, you get to the playoffs by having good seasons from your best players and some career years from your supporting cast. Except for the Phillies and the Yankees, aren’t most of the playoff teams in the same situation?
by Palooka Joe on Sep 30, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes,
Brewers’ Pythag: 90-72.
Dbacks’ Pythag: 88-74.
Even there, we’re almost evenly matched.
2007: Anybody, Anytime
2011: Justin Upton, All the Time
by Zavada's Moustache on Sep 30, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
Objectively speaking, this is probably the most evenly matched Division Series of the four.
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It's understandable
The D-backs have been playing over their heads since Day 1. Just ask Ken Rosenthal!
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 30, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't quite know what to do
with the Diamondbacks, does he?
Alright
I picked the Dbacks in four on mlb.com and their posteason bracket thingy. I’m going to stick with that saying we take game 1 behind IPK, barely lose game two, and then win the next two at home. I see no reason why they shouldn’t do this, and will be most upset if they fail to do so!
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 30, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
I see a big reason we could lose Game 3
Greinke vs. Saunders
I would much rather
everyone pick us to lose. We were picked to finish last (even by me) in spring training, and I like how that turned out. So keep ignoring the Dbacks please. That Roberts HR that caused Milwaukee to make a terrible decision will prove to be the deciding factor in this series. I give the edge to the Brews in LF and 1B. Bring on the game.

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