Diamondbacks 5, Giants 2: Just like Beggars Canyon back home
by hotclaws on Sep 25, 2011 8:23 PM EDT
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[Though Star Wars Day started off well, it turned nasty in the later innings...]
Record: 93-66. Pace: 95-67. Change on last season:+29.
After two impressive and important wins ,I wasn't expecting too much from this game.I thought with Gibson resting players we might in fact not do too much against Lincecum but I was wrong...
Collmenter pretty much started how he meant to go on with 3 swift outs. Lincecum then proceeded to walk Hill, hit Upton right on the bill of his helmet ,and give up a 2 run double to Montero. Upton felt nauseated running the bases and was taken out as a precaution but that threw a damper on the game. He was replaced by Gillespie at LF and Parra went to RF. .
Nothing happened for the next two innings with both pitchers trading outs. The foirth got interesting when Collmenter decided to load the bases by walking Pill, after Torres got on board with a bunt and went to third on Keppinger's hit, but like a veteran X wing pilot,he kept his nerve and got out of it. Lincecum then gave up a double to Goldscmidt, ruefully smiling as he knew Goldy has his number. Blum got him to third and Cowgill sent him home with a fine double.
Collmenter again went for three swift outs. However the bottom of the 5th was full of incident. Parra singled to centre, then stole second on a slightly dubious call which brought Bochy out to argue and get tossed. Far from inspiring the troops, Lincecum then did his best to choke the catcher with a ball to the throat, though I suspected it was aimed at the umpire. Hill hit a ground rule double, to score one; Gillespie walked; Miggy loaded the bases and Blum had a productive out by getting Hill home.
In the sixth Josh apparently turned off his targeting computer and gave up 2 solo home runs but got out without any other damage, with help from a great play by Hill. Lincecum was replaced by Ramirez who sent down the side in order. In the 7th both teams got players on base but no-one scored. Then Hernandez came in. Though Beltran got an infield hit, after a peculiar at bat by Torres [who was out at first after getting confused about where the ball was], ,the score stayed the same.Castilla gave up a double but the D'backs could not do anything with it.
Then, it was up to Putz who did what he does and we swept the Giants.
[Click to enlarge, at Fangraphs.com]
Luke Skywalker: Josh Collmenter, +27.5%
Han Solo: Miguel Montero, +14.7%
Jar-Jar Binks: John McDonald, -4.4%
GDT was a bit flat mostly because many regulars were at the Snakepit Fest which is why you've had to put up with me pinch hitting but also we were all concerned about the nasty blow to Upton's head and it's consequences.
[Jim] NASCARbernet led the roll-call with hotclaws and Rockkstarr12 on the podium as well. Also taking part: Dan Strittmatter, dbacks25, Stile4aly, JustAJ, Bcawz, The so-called Beautiful, blue bulldog, 4 Corners Fan, Majabe, luckycc, Ben Skehan, BulldogsNotZags, asteroid, Clefo, unnamedDBacksfan, rfffr, azshadowwalker, VouxCroux, imstillhungry95, nateasaurus, njjohn and diamondfacts. Thanks to hotclaws for the stand-by recap; any last thoughts such as, oh, a Comment of the Day?
COTD has to be this replying to a poster as to why the thread was so quiet.
We're busy using The Force to attempt to choke Tim Lincecum
by Stile4aly on Sep 25, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply Unrec? 4
So Josh goes 10-10 on a short season, Lincecum has a losing record and the D'backs go onward and upward.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Sep 25, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
Happy anniversary today!
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 25, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you :)
Had a nice dinner and now a relaxing evening. Did listen to the game today too :)
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 25, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
so much for an emotional letdown
Gibson (and his staff) really HAS changed the culture in our dug out. Kudos to Timmeh for being mortified about hitting Upton, it looks like it completely changed his attitude about the game, he didn’t appear to be the same competitor after that pitch. Even to the point where he was asking ater him (to Montero) prior to his AB. Here’s to hopin J-UP can bounce back after that. The sound of it on the Telly was sickening and here’s to hoping that there aren’t any lingering after effects.
Chances that Hill gets his option picked up now? better than 50/50? Montero’s extension needs to be done immediamente, after watching this time down the stretch, I gotta believe that he’s our biggest intangible and 2nd most valuable everyday player..
.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
I'm worried about one thing Gibson is doing.
I think Kennedy, Hudson, Upton and Young have to be held back. There are 3 incidents that are showing what a big deal this is:
1| The blackout-imagine that was during a batted ball.
2| The Kennedy comebacker
3| The Upton hbp.
People are going to lecture me about seeding/home field advantage. However, what utility is homefield advantage with an injured first or second starter or big bats on the DL?
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Sep 25, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
Worrying a little too much perhaps?
1) That was a freak event. You can’t argue Gibson’s decision making because of that.
2) Not something that happens very often. Plus, sitting Kennedy would mean he wouldn’t pitch in a game for nearly two weeks.
3) Upton gets hit by a pitch less than 1% of the time during a season. Again, it’s not something that happens enough to warrant risking a player getting “cold.”
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Sep 25, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how many at bats Justin has so far this year
but he’s been 19 times. If he has 500 at bats, that means he gets hit once every 26 at bats, which is definitely more than “1% of the time.”
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
hit
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He has well more than 500 Plate apperances...
19 / 666 = 0.02
For what it’s worth
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
That's a lot of at bats
I say “Shut him down!” lol
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It's also
Quite an auspicious number of plate appearances
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
they might have to put him in the vader suit
if he keeps getting hit
Arizona Diamondbacks: 90-65
New England Patriots: 2-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 26, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
The expected value of homefield versus
the expected value of a series without Kennedy or Upton or Young or Hudson would be what?
The winning % for homefield never falls below 40% IIRC. Baseball has one of the least homefield advantages with hockey having the most.
Losing a guy and getting homefield would be pretty hollow. I do think if it is Gibson’s decision and it does blow up on him, that would be firable.
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Sep 25, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no question homefield would be helpful
but its not worth losing your best players for, so I agree with you.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
But playing one's best players doesn't mean that they're going to be injured
…and neither doesn’t playing them guarantee homefield.
So really, the choice isn’t
homefield advantage with superstars v. homefield advantage w/o superstars
it’s:
chance of getting homefield v. chance of injury.
I’d say our chance at homefield is around 35% right now. Our chance of a catastrophic injury in three games? Not sure… but it’s got to be less than 35%.
Additionally, I hate over-resting players. I think it can destroy a player’s rhythm. Ask the Rox about their one showing in the WS.
"Slump? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hitting." Yogi Berra
I think
after what this team has done this year, I doubt that anything short of setting Upton on fire intentionally would be firable.
Goldy Watch: 39 games, ..252/.331/.472
by Jdub220 on Sep 26, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what it would be.
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Sep 26, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
looking at homefield advantage
just take into account justin’s home and road splits
same with kennedy
after looking into that- it would be great for them to start at home
Arizona Diamondbacks: 90-65
New England Patriots: 2-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 26, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
But how would it be for the team to be
missing one or more of those 4 players mentioned?
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Sep 26, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
so out of curiosity
who’s who?
"If you find a man or woman who sticks around after you tell them "I may be a demented horse, but I know CPR," you marry them. No questions asked." - kishi
That's Phil in the gray shirt, with Jinnah behind him
Big Ed, and I think that’s Mr. Kishi out in front, but last time I saw him, he was a bearded guy.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No
The one in front I believe is Turambar, isn’t it?
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I got nothing out of that haha
never mind then
"If you find a man or woman who sticks around after you tell them "I may be a demented horse, but I know CPR," you marry them. No questions asked." - kishi
by CaptainCanuck on Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, in SnakePit terms
That’s BattleMoses being stabbed, with DbacksSkins in front, and edbigghead at the back. :)
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 25, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ooh, haha
I was looking at the bottom picture…
"If you find a man or woman who sticks around after you tell them "I may be a demented horse, but I know CPR," you marry them. No questions asked." - kishi
by CaptainCanuck on Sep 26, 2011 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
L-R,
Misty, edbigghead, me, BattleMoses, PapaBigghead’s big bald head, jinnah, Turambar.
Also present were kishi, mrskishi, Colonel Clank, Jim and mrssnakepit. Think that’s all?
AZDBACKR, Mr. AZDBACKR, asteroid, and mrssoco all joined us at R&C later.
Goldschmidt happens.
Hee
I’m wearing the exact same shirt as Phil in the photo.
This is not going to be pretty. We're talking violence, strong language, adult content...
Sadly,
BigPapaKishi was not at Snakepitfest 4.3; being in Nevada instead of in AZ. Hey, it’s not too far from Reno! Maybe we can give you updates on the Aces next season!.
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
So, have there been plausible updates on Justin?
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
Yes
He posted on Twitter about a half hour ago that he will be fine, just a little woozy still and that he’d be takin’ it easy tonight with family to keep an eye on him
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
he should see a neuropsychologist to assess for soft tissue damage anyway.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Check SnakeSounds
They’ve got an update from the team doctor. Sounds like it was more a glancing blow than anything.
Oh, and sorry to miss you today – hope you feel better soon!
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 25, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Jim
Yeah, I’ll give that a listen. It was particularly scary because it didn’t look like he reacted to the pitch at all as it was coming in.
And by all means avoid this flu/cold thing that’s floating around – it’s a real time killer.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You still have it?
Wow! I got lucky I guess with only having it for about a week
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 25, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a little relapse
but I’m much better now.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Good
We need everyone on their game for the playoffs!
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
but I can guarantee that there’s a substantial contingent here that would prefer that I be on the Snakepit Disabled List…
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Not me!
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Fun thing about the Snakepit DL
is that you can still post.
The ban list, however…not fun at all.
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that statement
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
I don’t want you on the DL, and since I post so much, I’ve got to have multiple votes, right?
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, you mean we're socks?
cool. Ah, to be 15 again. Eh, maybe not.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Upton
I saw the replay, and it looked like he was hit on the top of the bill of his helmet… Can’t tell exactly. Might be above it since he probably could have walked it off if it was just the bill
"If you find a man or woman who sticks around after you tell them "I may be a demented horse, but I know CPR," you marry them. No questions asked." - kishi
if you look real close in that last picture you can almost see Phil
/necessary short joke
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
That would be me in a pic like that since I am also short
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 25, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, next time we all get together
we will have to have the short people in front — you, me, Phil, Jinnah, mrssoco….
and all the other people towering over us in the back.
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
That works!
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Unnecessary rage hours later but...
Having seen the recap of the Justin Upton hit I just… holy frack. I know there is no logical way to police it but NINETEEN times in one season is excessive and this one really could have caused damage and it’s just… Worrisome? Scary? Freaking ridiculous?
Also. Am I going to have to go mama bear on Lincecum? Cause I will. With pleasure.
Working on a Player to Be Named... (babysoco! 11/24/11)
by mrssoco on Sep 25, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was very disappointed
that the coaching staff chose not to retaliate.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Retaliation would only give me a moment of satisfaction
I want something to be done about it. This is getting completely out of hand.
(But they could have had the decency to graze Lincecum’s shoulder. Or cut his stupid hair.)
Working on a Player to Be Named... (babysoco! 11/24/11)
Who wants to trade out nair for his shampoo?
Cause um. That might make me feel better.
Working on a Player to Be Named... (babysoco! 11/24/11)
I'll buy the bottle...
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll wield the bottle!
Oh wait, you guys aren’t plotting to hit him upside the head with a tequila bottle, are you…
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 25, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I appreciate the sentiment
it really would be the least we could do…
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Lovely idea.
I’m in. ;-)
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
::shrug::
So what if it is? There’s gotta be plenty of gay ballplayers. Would really do a lot for a lot of people if a star like Lincecum would come out while playing, though.
Goldschmidt happens.
Oh
I read your original comment wrong. I was thinking his hair gave him his strength (pitching wise). Like Sampson.
I got nothin'.
That's what my comment was implying...
Skins suggested the other matter.
"Slump? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hitting." Yogi Berra
Me too!
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Retaliation serves a practical purpose
it is to make the opposing pitcher think twice about hitting your batters. They didn’t retaliate in years past, and they’re not doing it this year. As it stands, J-Up bats at his own risk.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooo, I didn't even think about it that way.
Poor Justin.
Working on a Player to Be Named... (babysoco! 11/24/11)
Remember, Kershaw plunked Parra
it’ll be interesting to see if Kershaw even plays during this upcoming series. My guess is even if he did, the D’Backs won’t retaliate.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Kershaw pitched today
So, it is unlikely we’ll see him this series
Pfft
facts
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
What's your point?
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Never mind
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, probably not then.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Really
I was quite glad to see Kershaw pitching today. I’ve seen enough of him this season.
Well, if Selig disenfranchises the Dodgers
he’ll be looking for work…
Of course Selig isn’t going to do that…is he?
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
If Kershaw ends up homeless I wouldn’t mind the DBacks taking him in.
WTF knows with Selig? My father is livid about the Dodgers. “McCourt” is now a curse word in his vocabulary.
McCourt fooled everyone
but baseball didn’t do it’s proper due diligence into his finances, personal character and business operations. This falls as much on Selig as it does McCourt.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hence
Why he (Selig) so gung-ho to wave around “HEY LOOK PEOPLE MORE WILDCARDS”
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
I am SHOCKED! SHOCKED I say
that you imply there’s a sleight of hand going on in baseball’s administration.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh no
Not me.
….
….
Why are there black helicopters outside my house?
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
That's a relief
I would hate to have to think otherwise…
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
So has Parra!
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 25, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind us hitting somone
it should have happened today though
by Backin'the'Backs on Sep 25, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hitting batters
Just needs to get out of baseball entirely. I’ve never understood why we continue to promote such an unsportsmanlike thing.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Sep 25, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t like it, either. I understand why some people think we need to defend our hitters. But, it really just seems unsportsmanlike to me.
Me too.
I’d rather our team lead the way in showing more class than that.I know players will get hit accidentlly and I believe this was just that.
☣ "I like to keep a bottle of stimulant handy in case I see a snake, which I also keep handy." ☣
DO IT FOR DREW
by hotclaws on Sep 26, 2011 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Its
Manly and espoused by close-to-death chainsmoking beatwriters in fedoras still plunking away on typewriters?
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
by Clefo on Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, actually it's to keep hitters like Soriano from digging in and swinging
with no fear. If it’s wrong, well, maybe you’ll be happier with slow pitch softball?
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It
Gives one a free baserunner, which is why it makes no sense to me. So it’s both stupid AND dangerous, in my book.
And I like my fast pitch baseball as is thankyouverymuch
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
It IS dangerous
no question. Is it nice? No. But it’s the game. If you don’t protect your hitters, they’re going to be hit, they’re going to be injured. You’re going to lose their services when they’re injured. Does that make sense?
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If the league made an attempt
To enforce the idea that hitting batters IS NOT COOL then we wouldn’t have to worry about protecting hitters and retaliations and all that hoo-haw.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Sep 25, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Its the game, Sprankton
always has been. Change the rules, and you change the game. As it stands right now, the rules protect the team that hits the batter first, unless the umpire intervenes and throws the pitcher out of the game.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the part I don't get...
Change the rules, and you change the game.
It doesn’t HAVE to be part of the game. I pick safety over old baseball code.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Sep 25, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If the batter has nothing to worry about
it’s batting practice for him. I get that today’s owners are on your side – ticket buyers LOVE offense, but the game as it has been played for a century is a defensive one, and centered around the pitcher.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
How?
Some batters actually move or don’t move to get hit.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
When one pitches inside
pitches will hit batters. If someone tries to ban hitting batters, then batters will take advantage of the rules and work to take out pitchers by stepping into pitches. It’s the game.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not just the game
It’s human nature. If there is a way that a person can gain an advantage in a competition, he or she will take it. If you ban hitting batters, the hitters will take advantage of that
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That's right.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
The difference is
intent. And 99% of the time, the umpires can tell.
Stepping into pitches is already illegal, so I don’t see the problem there.
Goldy Watch: 39 games, ..252/.331/.472
Yeah, and it's called sooooo often
not. No, baseball traditionally deals with the problem, there’s no need to change the game.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
If a rule would be changed
about hitting batters, umpires would have to pay extra attention to hitters trying to get hit, too.
I’d like to say though, that like you, I don’t want hitting batters to be banned. I just want the league to push the message to pitchers to quit hitting batters. It’s not cool at all. Safety should be the #1 priority.
Goldy Watch: 39 games, ..252/.331/.472
Yes,
I’m pretty sure Justin Upton would LOVE to be hit more like he was on Sunday.
Goldschmidt happens.
So
Is this something we should be promoting and teaching kids as they grow up through Little League and High School?
“If the batter is really good then don’t be afraid to lay one in there and if it hits him, screw it, it hits him.”
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Sep 25, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, we're talking about the good of the kids?
Well then, tell Lincecum not to throw in J-Up’s general direction then because it might hit him and some kid someplace might think un-nice thoughts…
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I would tell him
But he would probably just tell me to buzz off.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Sep 25, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Or
ask you for some doritos.
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
This too.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
This is very true
oh well…
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You should get a fez instead
Fezes are cool
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Except ones on That 70s Show.
That guy is just creepy.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I LIKE Fez!
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Or a Stetson
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
i like the Dbacks method of retribution over retaliation...
drive in the run. I feel like Montero has done a really good job making the pitcher “regret” the HBP on Upton. I can remember a few where he just crushed the ball after Upton got hit. One in particular was against the Rockies… I don’t remember who pitched, but I think it was a rookie and he got Upton right in the back and he went down for a while… Next batter up, Montero. 2-run double.
That's all well and good
but its more important to have the batters actually confront pitchers and say “Stop throwing at the D’Backs, I don’t want to get hit!”
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It really surprises me that Gibby
doesn’t call for retaliation. Given his intense nature, it seems that retaliation would be almost a given for his team.
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow,
that’s a lot of italicization!! All I meant to emphasize was “doesn’t”.
I’m a dork at posting.
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Because
the ONE thing we need is to get someone suspended just before the playoffs, right? Because of a dumb mancode.
Goldschmidt happens.
I was at the game
Though not with the rest of the ’Pit.
I was sitting in the upper deck, 16th row, right behind home plate. The sound of that pitch hitting Upton in the helmet was awful. Everyone around me said, “Uuuuuuugh!” at the same time. I was so worried about him. I even tried tweeting the team to find out what was going on, with mostly useless results.
I am happy to hear all the tests have come back negative so far. Hoping for continued good news. I am very worried that he complained of nausea while running the bases. Sincerely hoping he is okay.
Judging by how Lincecum pitched after that, I now think it wasn’t intentional. I think the pitch just got away from him. He was very timid the rest of the game. Uncharacteristically throwing almost everything out over the plate and away. His post-game quotes indicate that he was a bit rattled about it. Sigh. At least the DBacks hitters took advantage.
And there was pitch that bounced up and hit the Giant catcher in the face. That looked painful. Eek. Not a good day for Timmeh.
Ah well. SWEEP!!! Ha. After the last two games, I honestly figured the DBacks would lose this game. I pictured us getting shut out by Lincecum. Never even thought to bring a broom. Neither did either of the friends I was with. Nor anyone else around us. Alas. Feels good to sweep the Giants.
I was listening on the radio
on XM, and the minute I heard it and the announcers exclaimed about it, I said a bad word. Several times. It just sounded awful. Then when I saw it on the replays later, I just cringed.
Really praying that it doesn’t have lasting results for J’Up.
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh yeah
Just tweeted "Had the thought: “Gameday usually isn’t this slow.” Then I was like “O ya, Yankees-Red Sox game”
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
This was just psoted on twitter
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
by BattleMoses on Sep 25, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
By me
:D
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
14 innings of exceedingly dull baseball
the mind boggles.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
The two minutes or so between pitches really lets you soak in the majesty of the whole thing
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
by Clefo on Sep 25, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
During the early part of the game
I was struck by the large number of empty seats there at Yankee Stadium. Not a good sign, economically speaking.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly!
Darn, I was really hoping the Sox would lose. I so want the Rays to make the playoffs this year.
And to think
The “ZOMG EXTRA WILD CARD” would make this game more irrelevant than it already is/should be
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
I feel like all of these games
should be labelled irrelephant. Having nothing to do with elephants.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
One could
introduce elephants into the game enviroment
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
That could be entertaining
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
It’d just be another way to see the Giants get stomped.
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
by kishi on Sep 26, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LITERALLY!
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"I'm like if it fits in the oven, play ball." - soco
Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
Well
that’s what you’re supposed to do to Gnats!
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The Oakland A's already have
As in their mascot, Stomper
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I like that word.
I’m filing it with “refudiate” as a fun word to use.
It's the stuff that dreams are made of
It's the slow and steady fire
by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love for the Sox not to make it
by Backin'the'Backs on Sep 25, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And this is what I get
Committed blasphemy by actually rooting FOR the Yankees today. F***ing Yankees. Totally useless. Can’t even win when I want them to. What good are they?
That was the one and only time I will actually root for that team. Hope they get swept by the Rays this week.
LOL
So funny because I was thinking the exact thing
by Backin'the'Backs on Sep 25, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This more or less
Sums up my feelings on the issue as well.
2007: Anybody, Anytime
2011: Justin Upton, All the Time
by Zavada's Moustache on Sep 26, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
So much this.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Montero also catches for the Yankees?
Wow, he’s energetic.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
That he is
I think his illicit drugs are more powerful than even Timmeh’s if he can catch for two different teams at once
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 25, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and switch hit
Arizona Diamondbacks: 90-65
New England Patriots: 2-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 26, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Swich hitting's
the easy part. I can do that without the illicit drugs ;)
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I’m a southpaw who can switch hit
I got sprayed by Ryan Roberts!!!
by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why yes... yes it does.
I believe the precise term is omnipresence.
"Slump? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hitting." Yogi Berra
So
A friend who came with me to the game today works at a bank in Scottsdale. She said Brian Wilson came in this week. She said Brian Wilson always comes in. She said he is a jerk to the tellers. I asked if she told him his beard was ugly. She said she really wanted to.
Well, I won't mention the names of any banks...
but his surely attitude would be completely understandable in a couple of the larger ones…
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 25, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
She said he asks her to do something which would jeapordize her job
And shrugged it off when she mentioned this.
Interesting
I’m not at all surprised though.
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
If
we were talking about anyone else, I would agree with you, but since we’re talking about Brian Wilson, I don’t agree with this
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Well then,
his personality matches the way he looks. Like a total d-bag.
Goldy Watch: 39 games, ..252/.331/.472
This
does not surprise me
Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!
by imstillhungry95 on Sep 26, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
dbacks need to trade a barber and hairstylist to the Giants
for a PBTNL
Arizona Diamondbacks: 90-65
New England Patriots: 2-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 26, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Giants could also benefit from a dietician....
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
giants need a lot of things this offseason
1. barber
2. scissors, razors, and shaving cream
3. a 2B
4. a SS
5. 3 OF
6. hitting coach
7. to lose the division title again in 2012
Arizona Diamondbacks: 90-65
New England Patriots: 2-0
by freeland1787 on Sep 26, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They could also use an "etiquette lesson"
a la Frasier Crane…
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah,
the beard helps me dislike him. Without it, I might realize that he’s a shitty closer with a division rival and actually might start to…
…
…
not hate him
/gasp
Goldy Watch: 39 games, ..252/.331/.472
Ah!
This is somewhat similar to how I use Lincecum’s ridiculous hair to help me dislike him. If he didn’t play for the Giants he might actually be one of my favorite pitchers. Of course, this is assuming hitting Upton in the head was just a one time fluke thing.
Timmeh's beaning of J-Up
is like the French routing the non-combatant boys in Shakespeare’s Henry V (with the minor exception that the massacre was actually against French boys by Henry V’s men, but hey!).
"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.
by NASCARbernet on Sep 26, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
May I point out I did put a COTD?
☣ "I like to keep a bottle of stimulant handy in case I see a snake, which I also keep handy." ☣
DO IT FOR DREW
Yes., you did
To clarify, that was my clumsy attempt to segue from my roll-call paragraph back to your CotD.
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
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