Diamondbacks 4, Nationals 2: Don't Cross the Hudson
Diamondbacks! Nationals! The Blue Jays 2007 infield versus the Diamondbacks 2007 #3 starter! The Diamondbacks finally managed to break their losing streak yesterday with some exceptional pitching and just enough offense, could they manage to add some momentum to their season? Livan Hernandez and his fluttering 37 mph fastball (not a scientific measurement) waited on the mound, intent on shutting us down...
The Diamondbacks came out swinging, and it looked like we might just have broken the funk. Ryan Roberts and Gerardo Parra, somehow confusingly placed at the top of the lineup, started things off with a single to left and a bunt single. However, after that, we saw a return to previous form- a swinging K from Justin Upton and a double play ball from Miguel Montero ended the inning swiftly. The next couple innings looked distressingly familiar, too, as the DBacks flailed at the slow-pitch offerings from Livo, going down 1-2-3 in the second and third.The Natinals looked to have brought their bats to the game, hitting early on- they had runners in each of the first three innings. Daniel Hudson, however, was on his game today. Miguel Montero helped, too, gunning down a stolen base attempt in the first in a strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play. Hudson looked to be in trouble in the second, with two on and no outs, but he got the Washington batters to hit into outs, and kept them off the board.
The Diamondbacks bats finally woke up again in the fourth inning, with a Justin Upton reaching on a one-out single. Chris Young slapped a double to left field and a bobble by Jonny Gomes let Upton come in to score. Lyle Overbay then slapped a single just out of the reach of Michael Morse, bringing Young in to put the DBacks up 2-0.
On the other side of the equation, Daniel Hudson was just cruising. Once Arizona took a lead, Hudson held Washington hitless for the next three innings, sitting them down 1-2-3 each time out. Lance Nix managed a two-out double in the seventh inning, giving Washington their first runner in scoring position since the second. Hudson notched a backwards K against Jonny Gomes and kept Washington off the board.
In the eighth, Arizona's bats kicked in again. As Jim warned us that we were in danger of becoming the first team since the mound was lowered (1969) to have six hits or less in eight consecutive games, Ryan Roberts and Gerardo Parra stepped up to make sure that didn't happen. Roberts showed some nice speed taking third on Parra's single, the seventh of the game, and then after an intentional walk to Upton loaded the bases- and ended Livan Hernandez's night- Miguel Montero hit a single into shallow right to stretch the lead to 4-0.
Hudson faced some trouble in the eighth inning, as a single by Wilson Ramos and a double by Ian Desmond but runners at second and third with one out. This time, Hudson was bailed out by some good glovework- first Rick Ankiel lined one directly at Lyle Overbay, and then Ryan Zimmerman grounded out to John McDonald, who made a good play to get to the ball and Lyle Overbay made a good dig on the throw to get the out.
The Diamondbacks didn't make much noise in the ninth, with John McDonald reaching on an error but not moving past first. Hudson stayed in the game, looking to go out and finish his first career complete game shut out. He got Michael Morse to ground out and then struck out Danny Espinosa, but it seems like Hudson hit a wall there. Just one out from ending the game, he gave up back-to-back home runs to Lance Nix and Jonny Gomes. Gibby came out and, after some deliberation, pulled Hudson, calling J.J. Putz in from the bullpen. Two pitches later, Putz got Ramos to hit a pop foul to the right side, and Lyle Overbay hustled over to snag it for the final out, giving Putz save #32 on the season.
Not quite the ending we would have liked, obviously, but a great outing from Hudson to help the team pick up the win. Looking over the box score, I find myself surprised to see that he gave up nine hits over the game. What he didn't do, though, was walk anyone, and he was pretty efficient with his pitches, only needing 102 pitches for 8.2 innings. A well-deserved win for Huddy, #13 this year for him. Neither of our new arrivals made any positive impressions at the plate, but they did show off some fancy defense, so maybe there's hope for them yet.
Behemoth: Daniel Hudson (+45.1%)
Jumbo Size: Chris Young (+10.9%)Travel Pack: Miguel Montero (-5.2%)
Nope, I'm voiding that last place finish for Miggy. He loses out on WPA because he grounded into the double play to end the first inning, which was a big blow at the time. But he hit in those two insurance runs in the eighth inning. It may not have been a big bump to the win chance at the time, but without those runs, the home runs in the ninth tie it. So he deserves better.
Lot of people showed up to discuss the game today, ending around 730 at the time of the last out. snakecharmer just beat out imstillhungry95, 68 to 66, with Clefo in third. Also showing up to add in their comments were Skii, BulldogsNotZags, SongBird, Zavada's Moustache, Jim McLennan, Backin'the'Backs, cbspga, Rockkstarr12, txzona, SenSurround, porty99, hotclaws, 4 Corners Fan, diamondfacts, TRTFSHR, luckycc, asteroid, Dallas D'Back Fan, The so-called Beautiful, Augdogs, emilylovesthedbacks (Happy birthday!), Jdub220, Bowling_Guy25, Gildo, NASCARbernet, soco, Jargamus Prime, andrewryno, rfffr, and Azreous. Only a few comments were green last time I checked, and most of them required more context than I plan to give here, so no comment of the day. There's an important lesson to learn here about rec'ing more comments. Instead, I'll just award it to Zavada Mustache's An N.L. West Summit Meeting, because it's just that funny.
So the Diamondbacks get the split against Washington, and they'll play tomorrow for a shot at winning the series. Wade Miley will take the mound for the Diamondbacks, and hope for some better results than he had in his first outing in the big leagues. Meanwhile, we go 2.5 games up on the Giants, as they go up against the Padres, looking for a win and a slight bit of dignity. Good luck with that, guys.
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Giants-Padres under way
Timmeh throws up a scoreless first, but it did take him 27 pitches to do so.
Daron "...the D. Baxter fan-club"
Mark: "A non-profit organization."
Now 46
and only one out in the 2nd inning.
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by snakecharmer on Aug 24, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Is the Giants pitching staff starting to feel the weight of having to carry this team all the time?
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
Probably
I mean, last time out Timmeh gave up run one… and lost
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 24, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
we start the 2007 blue jays infield tonight.
roberts, overbay, hill, and mcdonald all started a game together then.
Hence
My mentioning that fact in the intro?
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
Pfffffft. Reading skills.
Highly overrated.
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by snakecharmer on Aug 24, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You and
Your assumptions that people read these things
Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3
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Promised Colin Cowgill fifteen sandwiches on 7/6/2011
Well, not the whole thing
But it’s only three words into the intro! Above the jump!
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
I only read the headline, most of the time
Just kidding. I read the articles. One of the main reasons I started coming to the site, actually
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Great win!
Glad to see that we may just be breaking out of our slump.
Quick question, as I missed part of the game: Did Justin Upton look like an MVP-contender today? Everyday, I try to look up his stats (If I missed the game/Missed part of it), to see if he’s still in the running.
He'll need to raise his BA
He is below .300 right now
Just saw my avatar
And noted sexy ass Megan Rapinoe in the crowd at the Giants game, wearing a Brian Wilson beard t-shirt and a Panda hat.
SAD :-((((((((((((((((((
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 24, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
Well, Wambach was there too.
They did an interview with the sideline chick for the Giants. Surely they were given free tix and so on, and Rapinoe is from Northern Cali originally, but still………….
Sad :-(((((((((((((((((((((
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
but as a Dbacks fan, I think you have to change your avatar now
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
You’re probably right.
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 25, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
And done
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 25, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
While I think it's a good thing you change your avatar
Your first one was prettier…
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Well so do I.
And I’m very unhappy to change it………and she looked pretty damn sexy in the interview…….except for the damn shirt and the damn panda hat.
GRRRRRRRR……it makes me so sad and angry.
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 25, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure there'll be other avatars...
there are plenty of fish in the avatar sea.
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by NASCARbernet on Aug 25, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That is unfortunate.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 25, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
And you think we have attendance issues
According to @justincohen790, there was an unofficial headcount of 347 fans in the stands for the first pitch of Wednesday’s doubleheader at Sun Life Stadium. Cohen counted five sections with three or fewer people in it and three completely empty sections.
Daron "...the D. Baxter fan-club"
Mark: "A non-profit organization."
Should be called Sun Death Stadium.
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 24, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I saw that
pathetic isnt even the word I would use, and to think they are going to fill a new stadium?
by AzDbackfanInDc on Aug 24, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
They probably
will the first season, since people will probably come out just to see the stadium. For proof, see the Arizona Cardinals when they got their new stadium. I don’t think they ever had a sell out in Sun Devil Stadium. As soon as they got University of Phoenix stadium, they only had sell-outs, if I recall correctly.
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Its true
don’t underestimate the power of fan comfort. During the early season games at Sun Devil Stadium, the conditions were brutal in the stands.
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by NASCARbernet on Aug 25, 2011 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair,
The Cardinals sold out their first season at UPS…and then all subsequent seasons, so it wasn’t just the stadium.
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by Zavada's Moustache on Aug 25, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, well it appears it
was hurricane Irene causing the low attendance. I mean, I can understand that.
I got nothin'.
Let's see
get your house ready for the biggest hurricane to hit the U. S. in years and then leave yourself, or go see a baseball game between the reds and the marlins…
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can only imagine.
As a desert rat, I have never lived through a tornado or hurricane or earthquake. My wife has, and she says it was the most terrifying thing she has ever lived through (a hurricane).
I got nothin'.
A hurricane
is not something I would want to experience first hand. If I have to, I much prefer just watching some not to bright reporter standing outside in it
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i would just like to point out
that despite my usual pessimism
i DID believe we would at least split the series….even after that depressing first game. i think i deserve credit for this series. even more than st. penelope.
I believed we would take 3 out of 4
So if we win tomorrow I will be deserving the credit.
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 24, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
You’re trying to take credit from St. Penelope of the Cross?
BURN THE HERITIC!!!
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmmm
(envisions blue bulldog burning). Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
Nah.
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by NASCARbernet on Aug 25, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh... welll...
It sounded good anyway
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Again I say
BURN THE HERITIC!!
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL @ Duane Kuiper
“Big fellas comin’ up (next inning)”
Beltran, Sandoval, Huff.
If by “big fellas” he meant fat, dumpy, old guys, then I’ll give him that.
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 24, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And Beltran promptly homers
I’m blaming you.
Daron "...the D. Baxter fan-club"
Mark: "A non-profit organization."
by Jim McLennan on Aug 24, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok well
Will Venable is a fat dumpy old guy too.
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 24, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And he didn't homer.
So my words have no homer causing power.
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by BulldogsNotZags on Aug 24, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cursing powers
only work against teams it matters for. It matters that the Giants lose, so……..
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by snakecharmer on Aug 25, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Hehe Hill
Continuing to be useless.
by CaptainCanuck on Aug 24, 2011 11:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dan Hudson
re-watched the highlights. changeup didn’t tail enough on the first home run, and slider hung up on the second home run. part of this is also his home run regressing to normal rates, so that his FIP will start looking like his xFIP….
i just don’t get him. the command definitely seems to be off this year, as compared to where he was at last year when we just got him. particularly his changeup should be doing way more damage than it has, in my opinion.
also, i agree with NASCAR. he’s clearly the type of pitcher that needs to pitch his fastball up in the zone. he used to do that with regularity last year, getting tons of swinging strikeouts on high fastballs. i don’t know why he’s not pitching up in the zone this year, but that’s probably why his flyball rates have gone down, infield flyball rates have dropped, his BABIP has gone up, and most importantly, strikeouts are down. in all of his strikeouts, only one was a high fastball swinging strike. a ton of called strikes on fastballs down. a changeup swinging strike. just wish he used that premium velocity on his arm more…
He seems to have good movement up
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by NASCARbernet on Aug 25, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
IPK seems to get a lot of swinging strikes
on fastballs up in the zone. And he can’t match Hudson for velocity, but his fastball does move a lot.
by Craig from Az on Aug 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The high fastball is a great weapon
I’m not talking about a tubed fastball, I’m talking about the fastball that looks like balloon, but sails into a hitter’s blindspot.
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by NASCARbernet on Aug 25, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Kennedy's fastball is crazy straight
The cutter he has moves a bunch, but it’s noticeably slower.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 25, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
two mph
is what i was seeing….
but that’s not bad at all, considering how much movement he gets on the cutter. and at least a couple nights ago, he was commanding it very well.
by blue bulldog on Aug 25, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Fangraphs says otherwise
Avg FB: 90.1 mph
Avg CT: 86.5 mph
Huge difference. That’s average velocity to below-average velocity.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 25, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hm
okay. the difference was probably just lower in that last game.
though…you do have to be careful when looking at Fangraphs’s pitch f/x data. they don’t do a great job of differentiating between different types of fastballs….
by blue bulldog on Aug 25, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a thing on yahoo mlb
about Heath Bell being claimed by the Giants and he was messin with his teamates, was pretty cool
by AzDbackfanInDc on Aug 24, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions
Go Huddy!
This impression the DBacks have been doing of the Giants recently has been no fun. Though, it has been nice to see the solid pitching. Still, I already lived through 2007. I was enjoying the improved offense. Hope the team is starting a new trend now.
2007?
The year we made it too the NLCS? Do you by any chance mean 2008 or 2009?
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I just mean the similar situation to Giants 2011
struggling offense (being outscored), strong pitching
Oh Duh
I should really learn to read more carefully. You did say that in your comment
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Gameday is saying Lincecum is batting for himself
And he has thrown 108 pitches. Is this true? Are they bringing him back for the next inning? Or is Lincecum now a better offensive option than their bench players?
i bet if they had hudson, they
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by TinySarabia on Aug 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
*they'd bat him cleanup
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by TinySarabia on Aug 25, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
They'd
probably try to have him bat 1-9.
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And yes, they did bring Lincecum back out
He threw 124 pitches tonight, giving up 1 run. And likely bolstering Trevor Bauer’s pitching theories.
Just wish Huddy could have completed the shutout
But a win is a win
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[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Leading the NFL in swagtangibles
I'm kinda surprized
that he didn’t destroy a gatoraid cooler after he got taken out
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate Lincecum
Why is he so good? I think that he is genetically engeneered, and thus probably inelegible to play.
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
One day on MCC
I saw the Giants fans discussing Trevor Bauer. One of them said “He is a cyborg and should therefore be ineligible to play in MLB.”
Oh, please
If we’re going to start banning cyborgs, they need to look at Albert Pujols.
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by kishi on Aug 25, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of which
I was looking at his stats earlier and I think I’d actually be bummed out if he didn’t hit above .300 and knocked in 100+ RBI. It’s just… unnatural. There’s this weird part of me that wants him to break every kind of record. I want to be able to tell me future children that I saw the GREATEST BASEBALL PLAYER EVAAARR.
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by Marc Fournier on Aug 25, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
And it wouldn't be Jeter!
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by snakecharmer on Aug 25, 2011 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions
If I was in their
position, I would probably think the same thing, just as I do about most of their pitching staff, and also Alber Pujols. Since I’m a Dbacks fan, however, I don’t really care if Bauer has been enhanced with a robotic arm, or genetically engeneered
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't really understand
The logic behind taking Hudson out. The D-backs still had a two-run lead with no one on base and only one out left. Hudson should have had at least one more chance at getting his CG.
Wear your own fur.
missed badly on those two pitches....
deteriorating command late in the game….i can understand it. don’t want to risk him blowing the game. not in this tight of a pennant race.
by blue bulldog on Aug 25, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Deteriorating command?
You’re basing that off of his last two pitches? He did just fine getting the first two outs of the inning. Plus, with a two-run lead, he couldn’t have blown the game on the next batter.
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by Marc Fournier on Aug 25, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I was kind of
a knee jerk reactions by Gibby, but can you really blame him? Since your pitcher recorded the 2nd out in the ninth inning, he has thrown 2 pitches and given up two homeruns to cut the lead in half. You almost have to, or risk your reliever giving up the tying run just because he wasn’t quite loose enough. Was it a great desicion? No. Was it a bad desicion? Definately not
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by imstillhungry95 on Aug 25, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
Hudson has three pitches. he missed on a slider. got launched for a home run. he then missed on a changeup. got launched for a home run.
this effectively makes Hudson a one-pitch pitcher.
i can understand the desire to pull him at that point. he’s at over 100 pitches. and i wouldn’t trust him to throw another slider or changeup….so he has to be able to beat the next hitter with a fastball. take the risk that he can’t get one out….or just go to your bullpen and a much lower probability of not getting one out….
it’s just a question of maximizing probabilities of winning. in all seriousness, starters get used waaaaay too much, late in the game. without looking, i’d bet Putz’s overall numbers are way better than any starter’s numbers on our team when going through the order a 4th time.
by blue bulldog on Aug 25, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
His eighth inning wasn't great either
Had runners at second and third with one out and only got out of it thanks to some good defense.
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We did get the outcome we wanted, a win!
What would have been gained, a CG? Halliday got a CG in a losing effort against us and had 14Ks. The Nats can put on a rally, so honestly, let’s don’t forget the bottom line and get caught up in Hudson’s pouting.
You play to win the game.
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