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Calling Up Trevor Bauer

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A lot of talk has come about recently regarding the possible decision the Diamondbacks are about to face in the near future of whether or not to promote Trevor Bauer, a 20 year old who is fresh off a big season in college, to the major league roster to help out in the September run (Two articles for you today - one by Kevin Goldstein over at Baseball Prospectus, the other by Jack Moore of FanGraphs). There is little doubt in my mind that Bauer is fully ready to take on a role as a Diamondback. But would it be best for the ball club, and for Bauer, to pull the trigger and give him a rotation spot?

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In college, the breezes the hitters made when they faced Bauer were enough to start a tornado. He struck out 203 batters in just 136.2 innings, shattering a PAC-10 record previously held by Mark Prior (Yes, this is a Mark Prior reference). He hasn't slowed down as he turned pro, as he's currently at 25 strike outs in just 14 innings, with a 1.93 ERA. 

But let's get back to those innings in college. In those 136.2 innings, they were accumulated through only 16 starts, a whopping 8.5 innings each time he takes the hill, and on one occasion, he went the distance - and then some. All told, he hurled ten complete games, and nine straight to finish the season. There's also the pitch counts, regularly over 120 and 130, and touching 140 at one point. Just how many pitchers in the majors throw that much in a single outing? UCLA head coach John Savage had him pitch that extensively because he could; his stuff never diminished as he got deeper into ball games, and his intense workout regime allowed him to stay healthy. He's a frequent long tosser, worked tirelessly every summer at the Texas Baseball Ranch, and he seems to not do anything but train train and train. His body is built for pitching. And let's not forget, his season is still not over yet. Since Jason Marqius went down with a shin injury, possibly the most obvious and most demanded replacement would be Trevor Bauer, though Wade Miley would be the one to get the first call. 

So let's say the Diamondbacks do call up Trevor Bauer to start in September, and then proceed to make the playoffs. Bauer's season had actually started in January, so that's ten months of baseball. Eliminate the two months between the end of the college season and when he inked his name on the dotted line, make no mistake, that is still a very, very, long year. I've said it before, and I still stand by that statement: I don't think Trevor Bauer will get hurt with the extra work he's going to get in as a major leaguer. His top notch conditioning allows him to be the closest thing to iron man, and his body is built like it. But you certainly will never confuse me for Nostradamus, and while we like to get the impression that Bauer is indestructible, he isn't. What he is, however, is a human being, and also pitcher, a rather volatile creature and certainly not iron man. And he's also just 20 years old. No one has ever logged the kind of innings he has at that age since the days of Nolan Ryan, and pitchers fast tracked like this don't exactly have the greatest track record.

I think Trevor Bauer will be just fine with an even larger workload while pitching in September, and possibly the playoffs, and I think he'll continue on with his development as he would have whether the promotion was made or not. Flags do indeed fly forever, and nothing will seduce the baseball nut in me more than seeing Trevor Bauer pitching in a sedona red jersey in a couple of weeks. While Bauer is possibly the pitching prospect best set up to log 230 plus innings year after year after year, he's still human, and you can never know for sure what will happen with him. I just don't think it's worth the risk. He's probably the best option the Diamondbacks have to fill the void in the rotation right now, but he's also the best option they have to anchor that pitching staff for years to come, and nothing will be more catastrophic than watching Bauer suffer a major injury because his arm just could not handle that much continuous stress put on by our organization and the coaches over at UCLA. I say shut him down after the minor league season is over, and work with what other options we have. Trevor Bauer is too valuable of an asset to make a shortsighted decision that could have Armageddon esque ramifications.

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I didn't want for that too drag on for too long because boring people are boring. What say you?

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i have the same sentiment

it’s just a cost and benefit analysis

do i think Bauer is the best prospect in baseball equipped to handle that type of workload? yes.

is it worth the risk of injury? imo, no.

by blue bulldog on Aug 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

What I actually find a bit surprising

Is that a lot of analysts (Jim Callis, Jack Moore, Dave Cameron, and from what I can gather from what’s not hidden, Kevin Goldstein) actually think calling up Bauer is the right move. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying there’s at all anything wrong with believing that, but it doesn’t seem that the usual conservative view applies here. But then again I also support pitch counts.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 18, 2011 11:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes

but they can be risk-taking or risk-neutral when it comes to people like Trevor Bauer. On the other hand, as Dbacks fans, we are probably (rightly so) risk averse.

I don’t think anyone is seriously debating that Trevor Bauer isn’t among the top 5 starting pitchers in the Dbacks organization, which is what most of these guys base their arguments off of. I think what people seriously debate about is the cost vs. risk analysis of calling Bauer up and putting more stress on his arm and body. And I don’t think I would trust people like Callis, Cameron, Goldstein in that analysis, when they have no incentive for Bauer’s arm to stay attached to his body in the long run.

by blue bulldog on Aug 19, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

So not worth the risk of serious injury to a young arm

"I didn't mean to hit the umpire with the dirt, but I did mean to hit that bastard in the stands." -Babe Ruth

by Rockkstarr12 on Aug 19, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

also....

is this an about-face by Kevin Goldstein? i always thought he did not particularly like Bauer as a pitching prospect. he definitely had Cole miles ahead of Bauer.

by blue bulldog on Aug 18, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Not Exactly

Goldstein liked Bauer, but was understandably worried about Bauer’s workload in college. He did say Cole had the best chance to win 200 games in the Majors in this draft, and that Hultzen was the most likely to win at least 100 games.

by Amit on Aug 19, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I got this writeup http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=13222 confused with Goldstein, because Jason Parks also writes for baseball prospectus. He is their resident scouting guru though, so I feel reasonably confident in saying Goldstein probably shares similar opinions as Jason Parks.

This writeup…to say the least…..is very very very unoptimistic about Bauer starting in the majors right now. Yes, it was written five months ago. But I’d be pretty surprised if his stuff changed dramatically since then, since he was already dominating at that time. Parks graded his pitches as Fastball/60, Curveball/55, Slider/50, Changeup/50, Command/40, Control/50. For those who are counting, that’s two average pitches and average control, below average command, a slightly above average curveball, and a plus fastball. In other words….nothing special.

by blue bulldog on Aug 19, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that negative

Well, that’s why Cole was the consensus #1 pick. He does have great stuff, and should also be a great one. But the article also says plenty of nice things about Bauer.

“Bauer has first-round talent, but he comes with serious question marks surrounding his delivery and mechanics. On the one-hand, it’s quite possible that he is just an athletic oddity who will find success with his unique delivery and eventually refine an already-impressive arsenal. If that happens, the team that has the cojones to pop Bauer in the first-round could be looking at a solid #2 starter "

And remember, this was written early in the season. Bauer showed great improvement during his last year in college.

by Amit on Aug 19, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at Bauer's improvement in 2011

I just went back and looked at Bauer’s stats from 2010 and 2011:
2010: 131 IP, 3.02 ERA, 165K/41BB, .244 OAV
2011: 137 IP, 1.25 ERA, 203K/36BB, .154 OAV

That’s tremendous improvement during his final year.

by Amit on Aug 19, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice points.

Any way to know what his FIP was those two seasons?

"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." Robert S. Wieder

by njjohn on Aug 19, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right about the numbers

but Parks is a scout….he was more just grading the pure stuff on Bauer’s pitches in March….and it’s hard for me to fathom that the stuff has gotten that much better in five months

but i mean, you’re also right that i was probably too harsh. they just seemed lower on Bauer (based on the stuff rankings) than some of the other evaluators i have seen.

by blue bulldog on Aug 19, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry at all

you need multiple reports when dealing with scouting reports, and that has got to be the most negative report I’ve heard of him by far. Plus, with his deep arsenal and ability to eat innings, isn’t that a mid rotation starter?

Also, I don’t think his stuff really improved. Parks probably caught him on his bad days. Early in the season, FWIW, Bauer was also struggling mightily with command because he was consistently 94-96.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 19, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad day yes

Early in the UCLA season Bauer was chasing a mechanical flaw. His results were not as impressive as during Pac10 play. But that is relative. You don’t put up full season numbers like he did without being very good from the opening bell. The thing effected by his glove side flaw was his command. So it is not surprising that he got dinged in their scouting reports. Most pundits saw him at his worst (include Kieth Law here). Read Aaron Fitts stuff – he is located on the coast and saw Bauer enough to really know what he brings to the table. Or John Kilma’s stuff at baseball beginnings. Most pundits (when they first see Bauer) never seem fond of him anyway. He doesn’t fit the typical big league prospect mold. So they see the “glass half empty” – what he is not. But Bauer grows on you. And for those of us that got the pleasure to watch him at UCLA – the more you watch the more you believe. Bring the kid up and let him pitch. He is unshakable. Even if big leaguers were to rough him up it wouldn’t phase him. Don’t be surprised by who gets the better of whom though. I’d bet on Bauer.

by bruin1111 on Aug 19, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, no,

I’m not worried at all about his performance. It’s the health that’s the worry for me after such a long season.

But anyway good post.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 19, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Interested to see if he has a letdown in his next start after dominating

The stats are great but it’s hard to know (w/o seeing him pitch) how badly he’s dominating minor league hitters. That’s Dipoto’s job. I just don’t wanna see him get roughed up too early in the big leagues. Not exactly breaking any news here but AA isn’t the Major Leagues and he’d be only 20 going against grown men who would probably eat him alive. I could be wrong depending how advanced his stuff actually is. Just don’t know at this point.

Is his stuff that elite right now?

by Husk on Aug 19, 2011 3:01 AM EDT reply actions  

It's easy to believe that it's outlandish

especially for a guy who should only be heading into his junior year in college, but Bauer is ridiculously advanced for his age. By many account he’s an MLB ready mid rotation guy RIGHT NOW.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 19, 2011 3:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can't disagree he'd be an upgrade in the 5th spot for sure

And even if he did get roughed up in September i doubt it’d set him back. I just don’t think we’re pennant contenders till next season and we’re gonna need him all year.

 I trust Dipoto with these things. Trevor Bauer is freaking fascinating though.

by Husk on Aug 19, 2011 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Mobile radio guys

Were saying he was getting some ugly swings and striking out AA hitters who rarely strike out. That seems promising. But, as Bauer himself said, it could just be because he was new and those hitters hadn’t seen anything from him before.

I am debating turning on the audio for his game tomorrow, too. I’ll be at work. But, the boss won’t be there….. Maybe I can get away with it. I like having the audio so I can hear the descriptions of the pitches. It is a sad substitute for seeing video. But, hey, I’ll take what I can get.

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

being able to hear the description of the pitches is nice

wish we could get video but….eh….not everything is perfect in life :(

by blue bulldog on Aug 20, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bring the kid up in September

he was built to pitch. That’s what he does.

"The wise writer, I think, writes for the youth of his own generation, the critic of the next and the schoolmasters of ever afterward." F. Scott Fitzgerald.

by NASCARbernet on Aug 19, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

It is really wild that there is so much talk about bringing him up

The kid is 20! He’s the second youngest player on the AA team!! And wasn’t everyone moaning about how he pitched a gazillion innings at UCLA this year? And weren’t the scouts all worried about the unorthodox delivery, and “his arm will fall off”, blah blah blah, etc? But now all these reputable scouts and reporters are saying we should bring him up! I mean, really?

How good is this kid?? People are this excited that it is trumping concern for his health? Yeesh, I wish I could see some video from Double A.

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't get

skepticism about his delivery. It’s wonky, and since it’s high effort it’ll probably affect his command, but when you really break it down, he does everything perfectly to avoid injury and maximize effectiveness.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 2:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it's funny

but if Bauer’s tunneling theory is correct (well not really his…but since he’s a major proponent of it) then even averagish command would be enough to make him really good

by blue bulldog on Aug 20, 2011 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder about this, too

This is an interesting idea. It makes me wonder if he will have better than expected command when he gets called up.

But, yeah, he seems really aware of what he is doing. He puts a lot of thought into his routine. I don’t know. I guess I just hope that if he is doing something really destructive that some coach can convince him to alter the routine. But, no one at UCLA seemed to care. Hmmm…..

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

College coaches

have no obligation to turn their players into pros. They couldn’t care less if they went on to hurt themselves three years after they leave school.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true, of course

I just hope we aren’t going to turn into the Cubs and get so excited about young pitchers that we end up bringing them up too soon/overusing them, and they end up ruined. It was painful to see what happened to Kerry Wood and Mark Prior.

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naw

Prior and Wood weren’t brought up too soon. They were probably overworked (hi, Dusty), and their problems might have also extended beyond that.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prior seemed kind of rushed up

But, they were way overworked. I really don’t want us to do anything like that.

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Similar situation to Bauer, sorta

Prior was talented enough to pitch, but he was overworked.

Prior was also dinged for his delivery by some, and whether that concern is legitimate or not, I don’t want to take the same risk with Bauer, even though from what I’ve seen his delivery is very efficient.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

But of course

talking about Prior in the same vein as Bauer is a little too unnerving for my taste.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I find Bauer really fascinating. I haven’t been this interested in a prospect ever. His cerebral style is so interesting. His delivery seems weird, but it seems like he has really thought it through. I don’t know. Maybe he really knows what he is talking about? Maybe this all really will work and he will be a pitching phenom? I have no idea. The work load seems really scary, and…. I guess this is a classic high risk/high reward kind of thing. I am somewhat less terrified since Lincecum seems to be doing okay.

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

similar college pedigree

Prior just broke down.

as SongBird said above, I don’t think i’ve ever been as fascinated by a prospect as I’ve been with Bauer….the guy is just….interesting

by blue bulldog on Aug 20, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh

I wish could take a peek about 6 years into the future to find out if Bauer really works out.

That SI article was so fascinating Ditto all the interviews I read with Bauer. Could be that I am just drawn to him because I feel sympathy with geeks. LOL

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had a choice

I wouldn’t. Much more fun to watch him grow and mature and turn into the pitcher we all want him to become.

Ben Badler of Baseball America recently had a chat about the Prospect Hot Sheet (which featured two Dbacks), and this made me really giddy:

Ben (Boston): 6’1" tall is Trevor Bauer. Do you think that will factor into any limitations at the ML level?

Ben Badler: I do not, and frankly there are advantages to having less length when it comes to being compact and being able to repeat your mechanics. He’s going to be one of the best pitchers in baseball.

One of the best? Not the best? Well, I guess I can live with that…

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." Robert S. Wieder

by njjohn on Aug 20, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think the delivery is a huge issue

And I also don’t worry about his command. He’s studied himself so darn much, if anybody can repeat a weird delivery it’s Trevor Bauer. I think the skepticism at the moment is centered around his workload in 2011 at UCLA. It was horrendous, but Arizona apparently thinks his workout regimen made it acceptable to the point where he’s still actually pitching.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 22, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that repeating it is an issue

it’s that with so much effort exerted, you have less control of where the ball goes.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 22, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose so

But max effort guys can have excellent command as long as they are consistent with their effort. I would be much more concerned if he had a smooth delivery he couldn’t repeat worth a darn.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

and he’s command isn’t even bad by any means. And he’s what, 20? Plenty of time to harness it, and part of that may also be the fact that he throws so many different pitches.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 23, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ready for Bauer

This is a turning in the organization’s philosophy; can pitchers (some at least) handle the workloads that their forebearer did? There has been controversy for years whether or not watching pitchcounts and innings limits really does help keep pitchers healthy. It’s not like there aren’t pitcing injuries anymore; Halladay, one of the most durable pitchers of our generation, could go out tomorrow and no one would really be shocked. It happens.

But now there is a chance to change course, not just for Bauer, but our future pitchers as well. He is the test case. If it works for him the Dbacks could parlay that knowledge and experience into helping others in the minors to become more durable pitchers; a huge advantage for the team down the road.

by Counsellmember on Aug 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

that said

I’m ready for Bauer to pitch out of the pen, not make 4 regular season starts and potentially go to the post-season. I like the FO’s stated plan of 30 professional innings before shutting him down.

by Counsellmember on Aug 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that is only about 2 games left for him, then

Including today.

I am not sure the organization is going to stick with that. I am sure interested to find out, though.

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

he’s around 15 now? What about 5 more at AA and 10 innings out of the pen for the big club?

by Counsellmember on Aug 20, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

I thought he was at 19 innings. But I just checked. Looks like 14. So, maybe 3 games left.

Aren’t they interested in getting him to adjust to a 5 day rotation? I don’t know. As CaptainCanuck succintly put it, the rotation is the best option, but also the worst option.

Shrug.

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup 14

he’s also pitching today.

He’s been on a very lenient workload so far. 2 innings in his debut, then three, four, and five.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure in the 'pen is a good idea

He has a major problem holding base runners. If he didn’t have that issue I would have zero problem bringing him up. The rotation is the best option, but then again, it’s also the worst option.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't need to hold runners,

he can just strike everybody out.

Goldy Watch: 15 games, .298/.353/.596

by Jdub220 on Aug 20, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worked for Randy Johnson?

LOL. Being left handed, I’m sure that isn’t fair. And I have no idea what Randy Johnson was like with holding runners on early in his career.

How does Lincecum do?

by SongBird on Aug 20, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Timmy

was a little wild in his first season. Walked a bunch of guys and couldn’t hold runners either. The thing is, I’m not entirely sure if that was legitimate or just some random variation though.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing is

with their type of delivery, i’m not sure how they can make a pickoff throw look the same as a throw to home plate

i mean, it’s clearly not as big of a problem now with Timmeh so he adjusted somehow….i just don’t know how

by blue bulldog on Aug 20, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right handers

usually don’t have a pickoff move that looks like their delivery anyways. All they have is the quick throw pickoff move.

I think Bauer is athletic enough to perfect the move, and smart enough to vary how long he holds onto the ball.

Goldy Watch: 15 games, .298/.353/.596

by Jdub220 on Aug 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

that should be a solution coaches to tell their players.

Player: “Hey coach, I’m struggling with working from the stretch. What do I do?”
Coach: “Why would you need to work from the stretch?”
Player: “Well, because if I go through the whole motion, baserunners wi-”
Coach: “Baserunners? Whuzzat? Son, in this organization, baserunners have been terminated long ago. Put a man on base, and you’re calling for a zombie apocalypse.”

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halladay

well, it is his turn to go tomorrow….:P

I survived the 2004 & 2010 seasons.
Goldschmidt is AWESOME

by dbacks25 on Aug 20, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And hey

what’s this “SB Nation Arizona Editor’s Pick” thing.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 20, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

The SB Nation Arizona guys find articles they like

And put a fun tagline on it to demonstrate their approval. Beyond that, nothing really.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 22, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Started of great

But then his command derailed in the fourth inning, as he walked three guys and game up a home run all in one inning. He finished with a line of: 5 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 1 HR, 8 K’s

He dominated, and pretty much beat himself as well in the process. He also earned his first victory as a pro, FWIW.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 21, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

His K/9 has been outstanding but control struggles tonight will only

lead to the “overworked” argument. He has to be near 200 on the year. Maybe give him 1 more start and shut it down. Fully fresh in ST next season he’ll easily be in the rotation.

by Husk on Aug 21, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

so long as he makes 32-34 starts

don’t see 200 IP being a problem. His command really isn’t bad, it’s solid average from what I’ve read. And he gets guys to whiff on outside pitches all the time, though I’m not sure if it’s the product of bad hitters or the pitch tunneling theory.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 21, 2011 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

During those 2-3 months off

he was working hard at the Baseball Ranch so it’s probably more wear & tear than we think. I love the work ethic but i hope he takes it easy this winter. He’ll probably pitch over 1,000 innings for us the next several years. Why risk it? We aren’t Pennant contenders this year. Next season, absolutely.

I say 1 more start in Mobile then hang it up, these few starts in AA will be big for him even if he doesn’t see the majors this year.

by Husk on Aug 21, 2011 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

the more the Giants lose, the less incentive we have of calling him up…

i’m starting to think the safest thing would be to just let him stay in the minors this year, and not tax his arm/body too much. shut him down early if necessary.

a couple of innings of Bauer is not going to make or break our playoff run. it would only have an impact on our probability of making it to the offseason. and at this point….it might be a negligible contribution…

by blue bulldog on Aug 21, 2011 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do NOT want to see Trevor Bauer in the major leagues this year.

It’s just not worth the risk of destroying 6 years of potential awesomeness for a playoff run that’s going to probably have us eliminated in the first round. This year’s competiveness is just an appetizer for the main course that will be served up in 2012 and 2013. Those teams will be serious contenders. This team as it’s shown lately, just isn’t a serious contender for the world series.

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, neither were the Giants

and then guys like Renteria and Uribe got hot… Unless you’re an absolute crap team in the playoffs, which the Dbacks aren’t, you can’t count yourself out. The playoffs are a complete crapshoot.

by CaptainCanuck on Aug 23, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But next year the D-Backs will be legit Pennant contenders. Let have a fresh Trevor Bauer for that run. He got knocked around a bit in his last start, let him start in AA until the season ends and shut him down. These few weeks will be huge for him in the future.

by Husk on Aug 23, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if Miley has another subpar start tomorrow

We should call up Bauer or Parker. If Bauer is called up, use him out of the bullpen which maybe a short start or two. Owings/Duke can start when the rotation spot comes up and we’ll have Bauer eligible for the postseason roster.

Plus there’s no guarantee that calling him up will be detrimental to him.

by rfffr on Aug 24, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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