Ryan Cook, Bryan Shaw Up, Barry Enright, Yhency Brazoban Down
by kishi on Jul 20, 2011 6:41 PM EDT
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Ryan Cook's seemingly inevitable journey to the major leagues has started up again today. The DBacks announced today that Cook will be called up today from the minors, and Bryan Shaw will join him in the bullpen, coming up from Reno. As we reported yesterday, Cook has been pitching in AA for the Mobile BayBears, and sports a 2.25 ERA and 13 saves this season. Kirk Gibson was mum on Cook yesterday, just saying he wasn't on the lineup card then- obviously, this move was expected. John Gambadoro of KTAR 620 was one of the first to break the news, and he speculates we'll see Cook as our new seventh inning arm.
With two new arms being called up, room has to be made on the roster, and the two worst performances in yesterday's game will be the ones sent down. Yhency Brazoban has not been a terribly effective pitcher for the Diamondbacks in his handful of appearances- his 6.00 ERA is bad enough, and that wasn't even affected by his terrible outing last night. After yesterday's start, Barry Enright will be turning around to go back to Reno. This move does leave a gap in the DBacks rotation, so we'll probably see more moves before the weekend, unless they're going to move Zach Duke or Micah Owings back to being a starter.
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Should this be true...
Heilman → Enright→ Putz?
Brazoban —> Cook
Castillo?
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Well
That was odd
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Enright could be sent down for someone too
But I think he gets another start Saturday.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In that scenario
Who do you think would be called up? A starter type, or a reliever type and move Duke back into the rotation?
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I thought the baybears played in mobile....
by C. Wesley Baier on Jul 20, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions
Whoops
Yeah, I just have a problem where when I think of AA teams, I automatically think of the Montgomery Biscuits. I got it right in the article summary….
Corrected.
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
There are
certainly worse maladies than thinking of the greatest team name in baseball.
HEY, FRENCHY! STAR TREK OR STAR WARS?
A day
too late.
"We're concentrating on fallin' apart
We were contenders, now throwin' the fight
I just wanna believe, I just wanna believe in us."
-Brand New, probably singing about the Diamondbacks
Yeah
Brazoban certainly went out on a very, very, very low note.
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
So did Heilman
The Enright move was announced before a corresponding bullpen move, on the same day Heilman last pitched. I am wondering if Heilman and Brazoban both knew.
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by snakecharmer on Jul 20, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
your report of Cook getting called up yesterday made BrazoBAD put two and two together and realized it equaled him getting sent down
Good bye, Heilman... Hello Enright?
by imstillhungry95 on Jul 20, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You make an important point
it’s naive to think the players and even FO don’t read this stuff here.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Why wouldn't they
Quality stuff here that is much better than the other major source of news about the Dbacks, azcentral.com
Good bye, Heilman... Hello Enright?
by imstillhungry95 on Jul 20, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And we and KTAR
were the only ones that chose to report on the news (probably because we didn’t hear official word that it WASN’T true until 4pm) and yet the tweet was taken down…
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by snakecharmer on Jul 20, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I know they do
I stopped reading. Now I just write sarcastic, angry comments.. -- soco
They're not even cooking the ice! -- kishi
by snakecharmer on Jul 20, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody think Corbin starts on Saturday?
Or maybe we could acquire Kuroda by then.
Don't think we trade for rental starter.
And if we were going to pull Enright that quickly, I don’t think he’d have been the guy to get the call in the first place.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 5:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i dont think so
i’d bet he makes one more start to save his chance, collmenter and duke both got their “last chances” and pitched well so i wouldnt be surprised if enright does as well.
however, if a trade is made for a starter he is the odd man out
personally im just waiting for the move(s) that seem to have been promised by towers
New update
Gambo says we’re calling up Bryan Shaw and sending Enright back to Reno. Aw.
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
damn! talk about a short leash
but we are in a division race, so it’s understandable
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
Go ahead and
Edit the title/story appropriately…. Sad news..
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by snakecharmer on Jul 20, 2011 6:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Done and done
Now back to SnakeBytes… =)
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
That was fast
So… Duke is moving back into his spot?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I'd imagine
unless they give Micah Owings another shot
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
its not like he
bad in his two starts, he was very solid
Unless they've got a trade on the horizon
Then it seems like it’ll be Duke or Owings.
"Never ignore a coincidence. Unless you're busy, in which case always ignore a coincidence."
My bets are Owings or Miley
In that order.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 6:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I don't think it's Duke
He got into his own trouble last night.
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by snakecharmer on Jul 20, 2011 6:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it'll be Owings
with a hard-throwing guy with a new arm waiting in the shadows. That’s right, I would not be surprised to see Parker called up in a week or two.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I would
That would be foolish, his upside is too enormous and his current condition is too wobbly. It’d be impossible to keep him on innings counts here if we want to contend. 0% chance.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I would agree but for
the urgency of the current situation in the back rotation. I rate the chance at 10%.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still going with 0%
Miley 45%, Corbin 25%.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Not comfortable with either
especially in a pennant race with the Gnats. We need a stronger pitcher at the back end than Duke or Owings. Still not sure how Collmenter will do for the rest of the season. We need another starter that can give us 6 innings a night and a chance to win.
by DiamondbacksWIn on Jul 20, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It's probably safe to say Enright will not get another chance this year
and next year he will have to compete with a ton of pitchers for those two spots. Guys that could be in contention for those spots are Parker, Corbin, Miley, and also Bauer hopefully.
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
If he's competing with those guys
Probably the last start Barry gets for this org
you never know
he could go on a roll and a guy could get hurt
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
Doubt it.
I think he gets at least one more start before the end of the season.
And I still think that he could be just fine as a reliever.
Then again, if the Tigers could convince some moron to trade for Armando Galarraga, maybe the Dbacks can convince someone to trade for Barry Enright…
HEY, FRENCHY! STAR TREK OR STAR WARS?
why would they give him another start this season?( not including some injury)
It’s starting sound like they are going to try and get another starter. Plus you have guys like Miley and Corbin, who have been pitching well and have more upside than Enright.
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
You want us to reacquire Edwin Jackson for dramatically less?
Maybe Wade Miley?
i just can't see it happening
unless we are out of contention and Enright’s a September callup
by blue bulldog on Jul 20, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
any chance
Parker would get the call, he’s been pitching well of late.. i know the walks are still up there but Towers did say he was Major League ready on an interview with Ktar awhile back, i’m not sure though how they wanna nurse him back so this is just a thought. or perhaps Miley?
zero chance.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Disagree.
The D’backs can afford to push him up now with Bauer and Bradley lurking next year.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
what on earth
does Bradley lurking next year mean?
and no, the FO has gone on record previously and said they do not expect to callup JP this year. which means i’d be incredibly surprised to see JP even in September.
by blue bulldog on Jul 20, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, and your mother convinced you the Tooth Fairy is real
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And possibly Santa Claus
Good bye, Heilman... Hello Enright?
by imstillhungry95 on Jul 20, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
if the FO doesn't have an incentive to lie
about when Parker reaches the majors, then i see no reason for why they would bring Parker up earlier than they say
by blue bulldog on Jul 20, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And Bradley lurking next year means (if he signs)
a GM has to regard a kid with a 100 mph fastball as someone who might move through a system faster than say someone without a 100 mph fastball.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
100 mph fastball
Working on weekends in HS. And he would occasionally touch 100, he sits 94-96.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Very good
it means he may already be using his top fastball as reachback (situational).
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
if Bradley moves fast
then that’s the worst case scenario, because it means we just signed an extremely expensive guy who we think is an injury concern and have condemned him to the bullpen
otherwise, Bradley will need 3-4 years before making it to the majors. look through the past few years, and let me know the number of HS arms who sit comfortably mid-90s and make it to the majors within one to two years of signing.
by blue bulldog on Jul 20, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That is the definition of irreleavnt
The dude’s upside is as a TOR starter, that’s not something you toy with just because you have a couple of other dudes hanging around.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
When you get older
you’ll learn the meaning of another pair of terms, “sink or swim” and “expendable.”
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You do sink or swim with back-end guys like Enright
You don’t do sink or swim with freaking Jarrod Parker. Expendable? Are you serious? Expendable is what Wilson Betemit was to the Royals, not what Jarrod Parker is to the Arizona Diamondbacks.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Parker, sorry to say, is damaged goods
if the FO is counting on him to become what he was once destined to be, that would be a mistake.
The onerous is on Parker to excel, and now that the D’backs have a slew of spectacular arms that are going to be jockeying for position, Mr. Parker may have to adapt a new mindset, and that is one of having to prove himself.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And do recall that Billy Wagner was back in the saddle
a year after TJ Surgery at age 38.
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Billy Wagner was also a big-leaguer before the surgery
Parker was not. Dude had about ten starts above A-ball pre-surgery. There were kinks to iron out in his command before the surgery, expecting there not to be for a long time after the surgery is absurd.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's also quite a bit younger, which normally is a big help in
the physical part of the recovery process. If he had “kinks to iron out in his command before the surgery”, it means that he has the same problem now, and after this length of time the surgery doesn’t have much to do with anything, except for time lost. Could be he’ll never overcome the command kinks.
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Or it could be
That he’s back to normal prospect development, like everybody else at Double-A. Good gracious, you two, check his freaking age. Impatience and prospects is a recipe for fail.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 21, 2011 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Point is, it could go either way,
and it would be foolish to count on him until he proves that he is ready. Impatience is a recipe for failure, as is eternal optimism in spite of evidence to the contrary.
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Come on now.
He’s getting used to throwing with a NEW FREAKING ELBOW. So if he can’t immediatley back to speed then he’s damaged goods? really? His stuff is there his control isn’t and control is the last thing to comeback after TJ
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
by BattleMoses on Jul 20, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Vasquez also has good stuff.
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Which is totally a reason
To abandon any pitcher with good stuff who goes through a roadbump. Like that Strasburg, the Nats should totally get rid of him.
You’re out of your mind.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 21, 2011 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Where did I use or imply the woed abandon?
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
*word
although woed might actually be better.
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
Which is totally a reason
To abandon any pitcher with good stuff who goes through a roadbump. Like that Strasburg, the Nats should totally get rid of him.
You’re out of your mind.
Founder and Chairman of the Hire A Body Double For David Hernandez's Right Arm Commission. A non-profit organization.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 21, 2011 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
i find it rather hilarious that you think Mr. Parker has never previously had a mindset that he needs to prove himself.
the way you make it sound, every single #9 draft pick in the history of baseball was destined to be great.
by blue bulldog on Jul 20, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This is laughable
A new mindset of having to prove himself? Ever since coming out of high school as a short (sub-6’) right-hander with people saying he’d never be a starter, he’s had an edge to prove doubters wrong. He’s grown since and gained believers, but that mindset is nothing new.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 21, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The good news
Is that if JP makes it, we have a delightful new nickname for him.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 21, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wanted to add
that there’s a slight chance, although not a significant one.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good news:Giants lose
Bad news: Clayton Kershaw is in our division for at least another four years
"When I get sad, I stop getting sad and be AWESOME instead. TRUE STORY."
by txzona on Jul 20, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good news
He’s in our division for another four years on the team run by Captain Ahab
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Bad news
He’s not wearing Sedona Red.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Confirmed
All of this has been confirmed via a press release on the dbacks.com website
Professional Lurker... if you see this, there may be a problem..
all teams need a decent LH PH on their bench…….
Professional Lurker... if you see this, there may be a problem..
As do we.
That’s not Sean Burroughs.
HEY, FRENCHY! STAR TREK OR STAR WARS?
by DbacksSkins on Jul 20, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The ONLY time
to use Burroughs is when there’s a runner on 3rd, less than 2 outs, and a RHP. The one thing he has going for him is that he doesn’t strike out much.
HEY, FRENCHY! STAR TREK OR STAR WARS?
Should be Blum for us
That’s the only side of the plate that the “switch-hitter” is useful on.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Saturday is a game to watch
It’ll be Owings, Miley, or Corbin. Any way, should be interesting.
Doubt we deal for a starter. KT basically dismissed the idea on the radio this morning.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 6:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The good news
Is that we’re getting awfully close to getting our best seven relievers in the bullpen… Putz (when he returns), Hernandez, Cook, Shaw, Paterson, Demel, and Owings. If Owings goes to the rotation, Duke or Mickolio is the next spot.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i think this is the best that we do have
barring trades, with these guys in the pen there is no glaring weakness
and guitierez aka “the big güt” can wait and or be trade bait for all i care
Gutierrez is done
Shut down recently, not as good as what we have, just too much of a headache to maintain and hope the “upside” comes out.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Why was he placed on the DL?
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Shoulder tendonitis or soreness, IIRC
Was recently shut down with triceps soreness, I believe. He’s toast.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 20, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes.
Thanks for the info.
"A plethora of pinatas..."
by NASCARbernet on Jul 20, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
i actually feel bad about Guti. i was one of his biggest detractors during the offseason as well, but i felt like this year, i finally saw some of that amazing stuff that had our FO raving and hoping on him.
by blue bulldog on Jul 20, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
His rehab was shut down
I doubt he’s back at all this year.
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by snakecharmer on Jul 20, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
if owings is left in the bullpen
I hope they use him more then they have been, he does good work in my opinion
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