The Diamondbacks and Saves: A Blast From the Past
So I got bored again and started to think about how awesome J.J. Putz is. He's already a perfect 9/9 in save opportunities and, barring an injury, will probably be our first full-time closer in over three years. Thinking about that, I decided to investigate into just how well our "closers" have fared up to the leagues best throughout our franchise's history. Needless to say, we're very lucky to have J.J. Putz right now...
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So, please, pardon the cheesy Craig Robinson ripoff and follow me after the jump for more analysis...
**Each block represents four saves**
Nearly every season in our brief franchise's history has seen a closer-by-committee. It even got to a point in 2005 where three of our relievers were getting saves as a group. Jose Valverde, Brandon Lyon, and Brian Bruney had 15, 14, and 12 saves respectively that season. Matt Mantei made some strong runs in 2000 and 2003 but injuries plagued him during his entire tenure with the team. Gregg Olson was a solid closer in 1998 but, well, no one remembers a thing about him. For the most part, there's only two major seasons for us to take a look at, 2002 and 2005:
In 2002 Byung-Hyun Kim, fresh off of an insane World Series, was tabbed with closing games for another season as Matt Mantei had undergone Tommy John surgery. Kim responded by setting a franchise record 36 saves and posted a 2.04 ERA for the season. Additionally, Kim had 92 strike outs in just 84 innings for a scary good 9.9 SO/9 rate. Also, on May 11th, 2002, against the Phillies, he became the 32nd Major League pitcher to pitch an immaculate inning. He was even an All-Star. He did it all. The organization responded by converting Kim into a starter to begin the 2003 season and then traded him for Shea Hillenbrand early in the season.
In 2007, Jose Valverde was officially handed the closer's role over Jorge Julio. Julio had taken the spot the season before when Valverde was considered to be "too wild and inconsistent" but he too struggled with command and was chased out of the spot by the end of 2006. After grasping the spot once again, Valverde proved his worth and not only passed Matt Mantei for the franchise record in saves (78) but lead the entire league with 47at the end of the season. The organization responded by trading Valverde in the offseason for Chad Qualls, Chris Burke, and Juan Gutierrez.
Aside from that, one other thing pops out at me when I see the graph. If your last name doesn't end in Rivera or Rodriguez, you're probably not going to lead the league more than once. The save is such a trivial stat at times and can be relatively misleading. For example, Mariano Rivera already has two "one-out saves" this season. A lot of people argue that a save isn't even meaningful unless the threat is truly there. Whatever the case is, I wanted to find out how often teams are represented with single season save leaders. Here's the top 97:
| Games Saved Single Season Leaders Top (97) |
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| Name | Games | Year | Team | League | Rank |
| Francisco Rodriguez | 62 | 2008 | Los Angeles Angels | AL | 1 |
| Bobby Thigpen | 57 | 1990 | Chicago White Sox | AL | 2 |
| Eric Gagne | 55 | 2003 | Los Angeles Dodgers | NL | 3 |
| John Smoltz | 55 | 2002 | Atlanta Braves | NL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 53 | 1998 | San Diego Padres | NL | 5 |
| Randy Myers | 53 | 1993 | Chicago Cubs | NL | |
| Mariano Rivera | 53 | 2004 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| Eric Gagne | 52 | 2002 | Los Angeles Dodgers | NL | 8 |
| Rod Beck | 51 | 1998 | Chicago Cubs | NL | 9 |
| Dennis Eckersley | 51 | 1992 | Oakland Athletics | AL | |
| Mariano Rivera | 50 | 2001 | New York Yankees | AL | 11 |
| Francisco Cordero | 49 | 2004 | Texas Rangers | AL | 12 |
| Rod Beck | 48 | 1993 | San Francisco Giants | NL | 13 |
| Dennis Eckersley | 48 | 1990 | Oakland Athletics | AL | |
| Brian Fuentes | 48 | 2009 | Los Angeles Angels | AL | |
| Jeff Shaw | 48 | 1998 | Cincinnati Reds | NL | |
| Los Angeles Dodgers | NL | ||||
| Brian Wilson |
48 | 2010 | San Francisco Giants |
NL | |
| Heath Bell |
47 | 2010 | San Diego Padres |
NL | 18 |
| Armando Benitez | 47 | 2004 | Florida Marlins | NL | |
| Chad Cordero | 47 | 2005 | Washington Nationals | NL | |
| Jason Isringhausen | 47 | 2004 | St. Louis Cardinals | NL | |
| Joe Nathan | 47 | 2009 | Minnesota Twins | AL | |
| Francisco Rodriguez | 47 | 2006 | Los Angeles Angels | AL | |
| Lee Smith | 47 | 1991 | St. Louis Cardinals | NL | |
| Jose Valverde | 47 | 2007 | Arizona Diamondbacks | NL | |
| Tom Gordon | 46 | 1998 | Boston Red Sox | AL | 26 |
| Bryan Harvey | 46 | 1991 | California Angels | AL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 46 | 2006 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Jose Mesa | 46 | 1995 | Cleveland Indians | AL | |
| Dave Righetti | 46 | 1986 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| Lee Smith | 46 | 1993 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| St. Louis Cardinals | NL | ||||
| Mike Williams | 46 | 2002 | Pittsburgh Pirates | NL | |
| Antonio Alfonseca | 45 | 2000 | Florida Marlins | NL | 33 |
| Joe Borowski | 45 | 2007 | Cleveland Indians | AL | |
| Dennis Eckersley | 45 | 1988 | Oakland Athletics | AL | |
| Eric Gagne | 45 | 2004 | Los Angeles Dodgers | NL | |
| Eddie Guardado | 45 | 2002 | Minnesota Twins | AL | |
| Bryan Harvey | 45 | 1993 | Florida Marlins | NL | |
| Jose Mesa | 45 | 2002 | Philadelphia Phillies | NL | |
| Jeff Montgomery | 45 | 1993 | Kansas City Royals | AL | |
| Randy Myers | 45 | 1997 | Baltimore Orioles | AL | |
| Robb Nen | 45 | 2001 | San Francisco Giants | NL | |
| Dan Quisenberry | 45 | 1983 | Kansas City Royals | AL | |
| Mariano Rivera | 45 | 1999 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| Francisco Rodriguez | 45 | 2005 | Los Angeles Angels | AL | |
| Kazuhiro Sasaki | 45 | 2001 | Seattle Mariners | AL | |
| John Smoltz | 45 | 2003 | Atlanta Braves | NL | |
| Rafael Soriano |
45 | 2010 | Tampa Bay Rays |
AL | |
| Bruce Sutter | 45 | 1984 | St. Louis Cardinals | NL | |
| Duane Ward | 45 | 1993 | Toronto Blue Jays | AL | |
| Bob Wickman | 45 | 2005 | Cleveland Indians | AL | |
| Jeff Brantley | 44 | 1996 | Cincinnati Reds | NL | 52 |
| Francisco Cordero | 44 | 2007 | Milwaukee Brewers | NL | |
| Mark Davis | 44 | 1989 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Billy Koch | 44 | 2002 | Oakland Athletics | AL | |
| Joe Nathan | 44 | 2004 | Minnesota Twins | AL | |
| Dan Quisenberry | 44 | 1984 | Kansas City Royals | AL | |
| Mariano Rivera | 44 | 2009 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| John Smoltz | 44 | 2004 | Atlanta Braves | NL | |
| Jose Valverde | 44 | 2008 | Houston Astros | NL | |
| Billy Wagner | 44 | 2003 | Houston Astros | NL | |
| Todd Worrell | 44 | 1996 | Los Angeles Dodgers | NL | |
| Armando Benitez | 43 | 2001 | New York Mets | NL | 63 |
| Dennis Eckersley | 43 | 1991 | Oakland Athletics | AL | |
| Keith Foulke | 43 | 2003 | Oakland Athletics | AL | |
| Roberto Hernandez | 43 | 1999 | Tampa Bay Devil Rays | AL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 43 | 2000 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 43 | 2001 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 43 | 2005 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Doug Jones | 43 | 1990 | Cleveland Indians | AL | |
| Jose Mesa | 43 | 2004 | Pittsburgh Pirates | NL | |
| Joe Nathan | 43 | 2005 | Minnesota Twins | AL | |
| Robb Nen | 43 | 2002 | San Francisco Giants | NL | |
| Mariano Rivera | 43 | 2005 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| Mariano Rivera | 43 | 1997 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| Jeff Shaw | 43 | 2001 | Los Angeles Dodgers | NL | |
| Lee Smith | 43 | 1992 | St. Louis Cardinals | NL | |
| Joakim Soria |
43 | 2010 | Kansas City Royals |
AL | |
| John Wetteland | 43 | 1996 | New York Yankees | AL | |
| John Wetteland | 43 | 1999 | Texas Rangers | AL | |
| John Wetteland | 43 | 1993 | Montreal Expos | NL | |
| Mitch Williams | 43 | 1993 | Philadelphia Phillies | NL | |
| Rick Aguilera | 42 | 1991 | Minnesota Twins | AL | 83 |
| Heath Bell | 42 | 2009 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Keith Foulke | 42 | 2001 | Chicago White Sox | AL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 42 | 2007 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 42 | 1996 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Todd Jones | 42 | 2000 | Detroit Tigers | AL | |
| Brad Lidge | 42 | 2005 | Houston Astros | NL | |
| Derek Lowe | 42 | 2000 | Boston Red Sox | AL | |
| Jose Mesa | 42 | 2001 | Philadelphia Phillies | NL | |
| Troy Percival | 42 | 1998 | Anaheim Angels | AL | |
| Jeff Reardon | 42 | 1988 | Minnesota Twins | AL | |
| Jeff Shaw | 42 | 1997 | Cincinnati Reds | NL | |
| Joakim Soria | 42 | 2008 | Kansas City Royals | AL | |
| John Wetteland | 42 | 1998 | Texas Rangers | AL | |
| Rick Aguilera | 41 | 1992 | Minnesota Twins | AL | 97 |
| Danys Baez | 41 | 2005 | Tampa Bay Devil Rays | AL | |
| Armando Benitez | 41 | 2000 | New York Mets | NL | |
| Danny Graves | 41 | 2004 | Cincinnati Reds | NL | |
| Eddie Guardado | 41 | 2003 | Minnesota Twins | AL | |
| Trevor Hoffman | 41 | 2004 | San Diego Padres | NL | |
| Bobby Jenks | 41 | 2006 | Chicago White Sox | AL | |
| Jose Jimenez | 41 | 2002 | Colorado Rockies | NL | |
| Brad Lidge | 41 | 2008 | Philadelphia Phillies | NL | |
| Robb Nen | 41 | 2000 | San Francisco Giants | NL | |
| Jonathan Papelbon | 41 | 2008 | Boston Red Sox | AL | |
| Jeff Reardon | 41 | 1985 | Montreal Expos | NL | |
| Ugueth Urbina | 41 | 1999 | Montreal Expos | NL | |
| Brian Wilson | 41 | 2008 | San Francisco Giants | NL | |
| Name | Games | Year | Team | League | Rank |
| Stats current through 2010 |
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| Teams Represented: Number of Appearances | |
| Anaheim Angels/ California Angels/ Los Angeles Angels: 5 |
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| Arizona Diamondbacks: 1 | |
| Atlanta Braves: 3 | |
| Baltimore Orioles: 1 | |
| Boston Red Sox: 3 | |
| Chicago Cubs: 2 | |
| Chicago White Sox: 3 | |
| Cincinnati Reds: 4 | |
| Cleveland Indians: 4 |
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| Colorado Rockies: 1 |
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| Detroit Tigers: 1 |
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| Florida Marlins: 3 |
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| Houston Astros: 3 |
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| Kansas City Royals: 5 |
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| Los Angeles Dodgers: 6 |
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| Milwaukee Brewers: 1 |
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| Minnesota Twins: 8 |
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| Montreal Expos: 3 |
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| New York Mets: 2 |
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| New York Yankees: 9 |
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| Oakland Athletics: 6 |
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| Philadelphia Phillies: 4 |
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| Pittsburgh Pirates: 2 |
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| San Diego Padres: 11 |
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| San Francisco Giants: 6 |
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| Seattle Mariners: 1 |
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| St. Louis Cardinals: 5 |
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| Tampa Bay Rays/ Devil Rays: 3 |
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| Texas Rangers: 3 |
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| Toronto Blue Jays: 1 |
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| Washington Nationals: 1 |
Not surprising to see the Padres (Hoffman) and the Yankees (Rivera) well represented. I was a bit surprised, however, that the Blue Jays and Orioles only has one and that Tampa Bay has three.
Sources:
https://www.baseball-reference.com
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i actually hope Putz dominates
and we trade him for prospects around the deadline
assuming we are out of it by then
Probably going to have to wait until next year to move him
But I do hope we can get a nice return for him as well. I think there’s a legitimate chance we could pull it off, too.
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by Dan Strittmatter on May 17, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i dunno
cheap closer for a full year is a lot better than cheap closer for half a year
also the longer we wait the greater the chance putz’s arm just explodes
unless of course you mean wait until the winter meetings. i guess that’s as good a time as any.
by blue bulldog on May 18, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
If he stays off of the DL for the season
he would have maximum value then. July would depend on that, and another team desperately seeking a closer to get good value. Then who would close, Hernandez?
I don't understand the table
I thought it was supposed to be single season saves leaders, but there are multiple entries in the same year – they can’t both be the save leader for the season, right? What am I missing?
Not see multiple entries for the same year
The year is shown at the bottom. Think of it, for each years as three columns one in front of each other. The blue line at the back is the MLB saves leader, the green one is the number of saves Arizona had, and the red one is the number of saves our best guy that year had.
"I'm confused."
"Yeah, well. It's a big club. We should get t-shirts."
by Jim McLennan on May 17, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
What stands out
Is how often we were not able to use the same closer all year – either for reasons of injury or ineffectiveness. Now, obviously, you’re always going to have situations in a season where you need someone to stand in for your closer, when they’ve worked multiple night in a row, or were used in an extra inning game.
But on three occasions in franchise history already, we have had three pitchers with 5+ saves. The Padres and Rockies haven’t done it at all over the same time-span. The good news is, those occasions were in 2000, 2005 and 2010, so we should be set for the next four seasons… :-)
"I'm confused."
"Yeah, well. It's a big club. We should get t-shirts."
I remember Gregg Olson!
Guess that makes me a dinosaur around these parts. (I’m 26.)
Olson was indeed a very good closer in the 1998 season. However, he didn’t get a lot of save chances because the team was doing so poorly. I remember that the greatest achievement of that season was when we didn’t lose 100 games.
In 1999, we were a better team, and Olson was a worse closer. At one point, he blew three saves in four chances. That, plus his age, was enough for Joe Garagiola Jr. to cut him and acquire BK.
Welcome to the 'pit!
Yeah, Olson was good in 1998: his 3.01 ERA that year still ranks #9 for the franchise among relievers with 60+ inning.
"I'm confused."
"Yeah, well. It's a big club. We should get t-shirts."
by Jim McLennan on May 17, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

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