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Diamondbacks 16, Indians 5: That's More Like It!

In what was, by some way, the best collective performance since the start of spring training, the Arizona Diamondbacks blew away the Cleveland Indians at Goodyear this afternoon. Arizona pounded out 22 hits, and didn't even need the assistance of the wind, the box-score reporting it more as a gentle zephyr of 5 mph. The pitching was almost as good: though we gave up a total of 14 hits to Cleveland, only five runs resulted, and we struck out a dozen Indians, without issuing a single base on balls. Even by the five-inning measure, this was an easy win, Arizona leading 13-2 at the end of the fifth.

Here's to more of the same going forward. Details of the win, which improved our Cactus League record to 5-9, after the jump.

Star-divide

I completely forgot that this one was on the MLB Network, or I might have put up a GDT. Mind you, no-one else bothered, so it doesn't appear to have been missed. For once, let's start this recap off with the offense, since they were truly the stars today. Except for Xavier Nady - whom I note was playing first-base today - every starter for the Diamondbacks had a multi-hit game. Kelly Johnson and Henry Blanco led the way with three apiece. Steve Gilbert Tweeted that Johnson forgot to pack his jersey, and ended up wearing Brian Sweeney's #37: based upon the results, it seems he might want to keep "forgetting" in future.

Elsewhere on offense, Stephen Drew and Russell Branyan produced two hits and a walk. Drew and Chris Young each had a double and a home-run - the latter hit back-to-back in the second, and were joined later in the HR parage by Wily Mo Pena. Young had his first four RBI of the year, and the Indians allowed 16 runs in back to back games. [That's only happened during the regular season three times since 1977, most recently by Tampa Bay in July 2007] All told, we pounded out nine extra-base hits, and were 9-for-17 with runners in scoring position, and Gerardo Parra stole two bases.

Nick Piecoro noted on Monday that Young has yet to bat lead-off in a game: he was in the #2-hole this afternoon. Kirk Gibson "acknowledged he's leaning toward putting Young's power/speed combination in the middle of the lineup." It seems that, in an ideal world, Gibson would put Upton third, but given the construction of the team's roster this year, he's more likely to hit in the clean-up spot, with Young either hitting in front of or behind our right-fielder. There was no Upton today: Johnson hit lead-off this afternoon, with Young, Drew and Nady filling out the top half of our order.

There were errors by Pena and Brandon Allen: we had 18 coming in to today's game, and our defense (or lack thereof) displeases Kirk Gibson, with him describing it as "unacceptable" - such as on Monday, when the split-squad games resulted in five Arizona errors. I did enjoy his description of the effort involved: "You've got to work at it. You don't just go out there and stand in a hula hoop and say, 'OK hit it to me.'" That's a shame, as the sight of Ryan Roberts, say, in a hula-hoop, is one which would seem well worth the price of admission, personally. But it doesn't sound like Gibson is going to be going easy on the team, if I read this statement right:

"We will pick the ball up better, trust me. We'll try everything in our power between now and Opening Day to make everybody play up to their abilities. There's various reasons [for the struggles], let's just leave it at that. We'll address it, we'll clean it up. They're better than that. I know it and they know it too."

Daniel Hudson started for the Diamondbacks, and had a solid performance. He scattered five hits over his three innings, but only allowed one run, and struck out four Indians. He did commit a balk, and also got some help in his final frame of work. An ill-advised attempt by a Cleveland batter to score from second on an infield hit to Johnson, ended in a run-down between Blanco and third baseman Ryan Roberts [whose batting average dropped today, because he "only" got two hits in four at-bats, collapsing all the way to... er, .650]. Hudson's ERA is a very respectable 2.57, which will do nicely.

With a 10-3 lead by the middle of the fourth, the game was largely in the bag, though it was still good to see Juan Gutierrez pitch a scoreless inning, and Micah Owings allowed only an unearned run in his frame. Sam Demel gave up his first run of spring in the sixth, on three hits, though also notched three strikeouts. Rafael Rodriguez and Kam Mickolio pitched scoreless frames, each man recording a strikeout and allowing a hit. Not sure whose jersey he was wearing, but Brian Sweeney worked the ninth, and Cleveland made the score a bit more respectable, scoring twice, though the Pena error meant only one was earned by Sweeney.

All told: heck, yeah. Good to see all aspects of the offense clicking, and our pitchers making the opposition earn their way on [even if they did that a little too often for my liking]. Hopefully, it's something on which the team can build, going forward. Tomorrow, it's back home to SRF@TS, to face the Brewers, with the scheduled pitchers including Ian Kennedy, Joe Paterson and David Hernandez.

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I would

just like to pause my criticism of KT to offer an unmitigated “**** YEAH!!”.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

Hector Blanco?

So it is true that all big-league Latin American catchers have brothers who also play catcher in pro ball…

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 8, 2011 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I was

gonna comment on that, too, then forgot.

Fixed.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Henry Blanco you mean...

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by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 8, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

It’s Henry not Hector
Henry=ex-Rockie

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by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 8, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It said

“Hector” in the original article.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 8, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh...

Whoever wrote it got his name wrong…it’s HENRY

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by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 8, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Rub it in further

Why don’t you? :-S

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by Jim McLennan on Mar 9, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey

I don’t know if you know this but the name for Blanco was wrong unless there’s some sort of hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk

Your dreck puts the "ick" in esoteric.

by soco on Mar 9, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just remember this...

“I’m HENRY the eight I am, HENRY the eight I am I am…” :)

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by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 9, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup,

which is why it was corrected.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice

Anger is the most useless emotion; destructive to the mind and hurtful of the heart

by Prosopis on Mar 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

Hudson went beast mode today i guess...

4K in three innings and no walks…

Demel striking out the side….uber-beast mode…

I don’t like Young batting leadoff. His OBP is just too low. If anything, I’d rather have Young bat 4th. Then we could have Upton bat 2nd. KJ bat leadoff? Drew or Miggy batting third? Or maybe Drew leadoff, and KJ bat third?

by blue bulldog on Mar 8, 2011 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

I think that's also Gibby's intention

I like it.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 8, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like Drew to hit leadoff, personally.

He’s better there, for some unknown reason.

Drew SS
Upton RF
KJ 2B
CY CF
Montero C
Nady LF
Branyan 1B
Mora 3B

Allows us to go L/R/L/R all the way down the lineup.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Mar 8, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think

with Droo, it’s a chicken/egg thing. Does he do better batting leadoff, or does he bat leadoff because he’s doing better?

I’m getting less and less inclined to make this claim, however, as the sample size gets larger each year. I think I’d like to have Droo bat leadoff, but I dunno if KGB would agree, what with the new emphasis on base-stealing (and getting thrown out). Droo has the speed, but not the will, to steal.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 8, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

We went over this at the beginning of the offseason...

http://www.azsnakepit.com/2010/10/30/1784153/dbacks-to-pursue-konerko#51049664

Although the only difference after the switch to leadoff is BABIP, he hit .243/.361/.486 before switching, and after: .311/.347/.567.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Mar 8, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

actually...that might not be all a good thing...

the 361 OBP would be a lot prettier for a leadoff hitter than 347

though can’t complaing about a 567 SLG….

by blue bulldog on Mar 9, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

leadoff steals are overrated....

unless you’re like a 50 steal guy

but since there’s no one on our team like that….then the difference between 10 steals (which Drew is capable of) and 20 steals isn’t that much (consider that you have to be 70% successful to break even….)

by blue bulldog on Mar 9, 2011 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but

hitting .243 wouldn’t be considered “hot” at the plate. Like I said in the linked comment, love the walk rate. Love the SLG even more though…

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Mar 10, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry didn't really look at hte linked comment

but what i meant is, if we think BABIP fluctuation is largely luck, then i’d rather have the 243/361/486 line (in predicting future success) because the walk rate is better and the ISO is the same

in fact, one of the reasons why those two lines are scary for me, is because ISO being the same shows it’s not like he’s really hitting better when in the leadoff position….it’s probably more just a matter of luck

by blue bulldog on Mar 10, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it really luck

when you have an .837 OPS in the leadoff spot in 899 PAs and have OPS’s of .691, .637, .715, .737 in the 2-5 spots, respectively, in a combined 1123 PAs? That’s a pretty large sample size.

You could bat him 6-8, where he’s done well, but I don’t think the bottom of the order is the right place for him.

Even if you still believe it’s luck, whatever, it’s working. Pretty damn well, too.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Mar 10, 2011 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I'd prefer

KJ, Drew, Upton, Young

maybe switch KJ and Drew. We have a lineup of 2 hitters and it hurts my head to come up with a lineup that I’m completely satisfied with.

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by JustAJ on Mar 8, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan Roberts for leadoff!

I think he definitely has the OBP skills for it – as a full-time player I figure he’d probably be in the .350-.380 range. And not that I think it’s really all that important, but he’s been a pretty decent base-stealer in the minors (~74% success rate). I see him as being kind of a poor man’s Brian Roberts…

I think my preferred lineup would be something like:

1. Ryan Roberts
2. Kelly Johnson
3. Justin Upton
4. Russell Branyan
5. Miguel Montero
6. Stephen Drew
7. Chris Young
8. Melvin Mora/Xavier Nady/Brandon Allen/Gerardo Parra

That’s not too bad, actually…

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by NotGuilty on Mar 9, 2011 6:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I so agree!

RyRo for leadoff!

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by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 9, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

RyRo

had an OBP of .367 and a walk rate of 11.4% with the big league team in 2009, over 110 games but 351 PAs (perhaps a bit more than half a regular season starter’s PAs). That .279 batting average was slightly buoyed by a .320 BABIP, but that’s not TOO out of spec. Given that Roberts never got on base below .374 over a full season before Triple-A, it’s not TOO much of a stretch to say he could repeat a .350+ OBP.

This is a long and tortured way of saying that I agree that Ryan Roberts could be a serviceable leadoff guy.

That .138 isolated power posted in 2009 would have put him almost last among 2010 “starters”, though, ahead of only Parra. So he definitely fits only at the beginning or end of the order.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Roberts looks like a high-floor, low-ceiling guy to me. Not really much to dislike about him: solid contact rate, good patience, decent power. A.320 BABIP certainly isn’t unsustainable. I think he’d post pretty similar numbers in the majors as he has in the minors.

I just threw together a quick projection for him as an everyday player and came up with him hitting along these lines:

.274/.363/.418/.781
680 PA, 590 AB, 162 hits, 15 HR, 3 triples, 34 doubles, 110 singles, 120 K, 80 BB, 5 HBP
11.7 BB%, 20.3 K%, .323 BABIP

That’s fairly optimistic, but I’m pretty confident that he can hit pretty close to that…

I'll eat up all your crackers and your licorice...

by NotGuilty on Mar 9, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm...

which system did you use for that projection?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It's proprietary...

It’s the “randomly guessing based on career averages and what I think a guy’s true talent level is” projection system…

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by NotGuilty on Mar 9, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ahhh.

I have a similar system, but it’s not nearly as precise.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

Being a leadoff guy isn’t solely a factor of getting on base. You have to be in as good of a position to score as often as possible in order to be effective as a leadoff guy, and I’m not confident enough that Roberts would make it to second on his own often enough to make that OBP more valuable at the top of the lineup than, say, Kelly Johnson.

Basically, what I’m saying is that gap power in the leadoff spot is still valuable, and I think KJ’s gap power would be more valuable than RyRo’s mere possibility of having a highish OBP.

RyRo for ninth in the lineup, LaRussa style!

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 9, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree with your disagreement

Roberts has decent enough power, and has the legs to steal second at a pretty good rate when he doesn’t get an extra base hit. I’d rather have Johnson’s superior power second in the lineup to drive RyRo in – though I can definitely see your point, and it’s definitely just a personal preference thing.

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by NotGuilty on Mar 9, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow...

IHSB totally turning into the anti-SABR these days.

What about batting 2nd then?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not really anti-SABR

i like KJ leadoff too

1) because i actually think over the course of a year KJ will have a higher OBP than RyRo and
2) i agree with the issue about gap power, though i think ultimately, that is an issue of lower importance than OBP

by blue bulldog on Mar 9, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

I don’t want CY leadoff. I want KJ leadoff. RyRo just isn’t a top-half-of-the-lineup hitter.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 9, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Drew in Leadoff

Drew had his best hitting season in I think it was 2007 when he was batting leadoff.

by imstillhungry95 on Mar 9, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

2008.

Droo sucked in 2007.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

No opinion on the lineup right now

…but good to see a solid win for once.

Side note, I assume we’re doing a GDT this Sunday, for the Cubbies? I believe that one is on FSAZ.

And it looks like our next (and last) MLB network game is Friday, March 18.

Well there's your problem!

by JoeStock on Mar 9, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

Well,

the Cubs DO power the Cactus League…

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep

It’s a Cubs World, we just live in it.

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by JoeStock on Mar 9, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

That explains why this planet just seems to travel around in circles continuously, but never really go anywhere.

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by kishi on Mar 9, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Yep

With the Monday after that the last FSAZ spring game, seems to be, I’ll try to remember to post a GDT for all of them.

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by Jim McLennan on Mar 9, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Good to hear

I’ll be here on Sunday for sure.

Well there's your problem!

by JoeStock on Mar 9, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Rewatched parts of the game on MLB.tv archive

My notes:

Dan Hudson – His changeup already looks as dirty as it was last year. Seriously filthy. Could probably work on locating it a little better (also true about his fastball). Can’t exactly figure out what’s up with his slider. For one, it’s sometimes hard to pick up, without the velocity reading. And two, it seems like his slider does one of two things: 1) it sort of just “flutters” (this is the best way I can describe it) into the strike zone, and looks extremely hittable to me (from the normal tv view), but for some reason, just locks up hitters; or 2) has this nasty break, and hitters just swing and miss badly on it. I still like his changeup better, but when the slider breaks, it breaks hard. The 2nd inning is just a thing of beauty (for those who can go back and watch). The fastball was locating. The changeup was tailing. And the slider with the break, he used as the out-pitch for Hafner and Cabrera (fastball strikeout against the last guy). I change my previous opinion of Hudson. If he can master the slider and use it consistently, that’s three legitimate out-pitches. He has bona fide ace upside.

Stephen Drew – His homer was a BOMB. Cannot remember the last time Drew hit a home run that far. I don’t know if this is because of the viewing format on my computer, but Drew actually looks chubbier than I remember last year. If Drew is stronger though, maybe his ISO will actually improve on last year. I’m just worried it will cut into his defense.

Xavier Nady – I didn’t like the way he looked in this game. He swings a lot (I guess this explains why he doesn’t walk that much). And he misses a lot on his swings. And the bat speed looks slow to me. I’m already ready to relegate him to bench duty.

Juan Gutierrez – Couldn’t locate his pitches very well today. A lot of pitches seemed way out of the zone, though he did get swings on them, so maybe it’s not all bad. I’m just not convinced though that his stuff is that good.

A.J. Pollock – He got owned by Alex White. Granted, White is the Indians’ best pitching prospect. But Pollock was definitely made to look foolish with two swinging strikes.

Sam Demel – Has really good stuff. Not quite at the nasty level that Hudson’s pitches are showing. But really good nonetheless. Tons of swinging strikes generated, and from pitches that are borderline in the zone or in the zone. Yes, he gave up one run on three hits. But it was really unlucky. Chisenhall hit a triple that probably wouldn’t have been a triple if it were Upton/Young in the outfield as opposed to Gillespie/Pollock. And then two really lucky bloop hits. On the other hand, all three of his strikeouts were legit.

Lonnie Chisenhall – Obviously a 4-4 day is going to make you look good no matter what. But this guy is seriously a beast. I wish we had him in our system. Definitely befitting of being the 2nd best 3B prospect in baseball (BA’s ranking). Doesn’t miss when the pitch is a mistake, and drives the ball to the gaps. And even when the pitch is really good (Hudson’s in the 2nd) he still manages to fight it off and go oppo. I came away really impressed.

Paul Goldschimdt – I love this guy. Massive power is obvious. But one thing I noticed from his one at-bat today is that he’s actually pretty patient. Doesn’t swing at borderline pitches at the edge of the zone. I still remember all those swinging misses in the first spring training game, so he definitely has contact issues. But patience means he can definitely be an effective three-true-outcomes guy. Worst case scenario, he’s the next Carlos Pena.

Kam Mickolio – I’m not that impressed. I like fastballs with movement, and his does not have that. Lots of downward plane though, because of how tall he is. Reminds me of the way Rauch’s pitches looked. And his fastball location didn’t look that great in the game either. He did show a curveball though that got a swing and miss strikeout.

by blue bulldog on Mar 9, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Nice recap

I’m sorry I missed this one – could easily have watched it, since I wasn’t working, and was just writing up the stats piece. Would have been nice to see our offense clicking on all gears.

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by Jim McLennan on Mar 9, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Since this has become an unofficial lineup thread:

Here’s mine:

1. Kelly Johnson 2B
2. Justin Upton RF
3. Stephen Drew SS
4. Chris Young CF
5. Juan Miranda 1B
6. Melvin Mora 3B / Brandon Allen LF
7. Miguel Montero C
8. Pitcher
9. Ryan Roberts LF / Melvin Mora 3B

I think people might be slotting Montero in a bit too aggressively this year – his ’09 was superb, without a doubt, but his wOBA in 2010 was just .333, for a wRC+ of 99. If he starts raking, then yeah, kick him up and move down whoever happens to be struggling.

Also, that’s a platoon of Roberts and Allen, with Allen hitting higher up in the order, Roberts setting the table for the top of the lineup, and Mora filling whichever slot isn’t taken based on the platoon split for the day.

Call me crazy, but I’m confident in Juan Miranda.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 9, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Never been sold on the batting the pitcher 8th thing

For reasons I can’t really justify right now. But beyond that I agree with this. I can see us using Branyan off the bench as a pinch hitter and a DH in interleague games, (and that’s the only clear thing I see about the random KT veteran signings that I like)

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by Clefo on Mar 9, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Montero can mash

He started off last year at a torrid pace, I think he just got worn out at the end of the year probably at least partially because of his knee injury. I’d say he’s a pretty decent bet to post a .800+ OPS this year…

No Russell Branyan in your lineup? I don’t think there’s any chance that Miranda starts over him unless he completely fall apart. I could definitely see him being traded at the deadline and Miranda becoming the starting first baseman then. I’m pretty confident in him, too.

I still don’t think there’s any chance that Brandon Allen makes the 25-man roster…

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by NotGuilty on Mar 9, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That fantastic for a catcher

But catchers wear down. It happens. If cutting down his PA’s by a couple per week helps him defensively so that we don’t have to rely on Blanco so much, that’s worth moving him down.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 9, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a near-ideal situation.

What do you think, then, happen to Parra, Blanco, Hester, Blum, Bloomquist, Nady, Gillespie, Abreu?

I assume Blanco and Parra make the roster.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

*

and Branyan

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 9, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't assume Parra makes the roster

In fact, I hope he doesn’t. I’d rather Allen make it.

Blanco makes the club, Hester goes to Reno, Blum makes the club, Bloomquist is on the fence, but probably makes the club, Nady temporarily makes the club but winds up DFA’d at some point during the year because his arm doesn’t let him play in left and his bat isn’t good enough to supplant Miranda at first. Gillespie is banished to Reno again, and Abreu gets let go of or moved because he’s out of options.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 9, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

okay let's see...my ideal squad at this point...

C: Montero (Blanco)
1B: Branyan (Miranda)
2B: Johnson (Team BB)
SS: Drew (Team BB)
3B: Mora (Team BB)
LF: Allen (Roberts)
CF: Young
RF: Upton

DFA Nady. Banish Gillespie. Trade Parra.

In case it wasn’t clear, Team BB = Blum/Bloomquist.

Unfortunately, since our FO hates Allen, and we don’t have a backup CF (even though I don’t really see the point of this, since we could just call up a backup CF whenever we want to from AAA) i see Parra making the squad over Allen. Despite Parra’s suckitude.

by blue bulldog on Mar 10, 2011 5:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

seriously though....

Cowgill is totally a serviceable emergency backup CF. and if we really don’t trust Cowgill, since the FO is in love with Pollock so much, i guess we could really push him if needed.

by blue bulldog on Mar 10, 2011 5:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Push Pollock?

That’d be pretty aggressive, given that he’s only ever played in South Bend and Scottsdale.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 10, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

i don’t really consider that a real option

on the other hand, Cowgill should more than be able to handle being a backup CF

on the other hand….does Gerardo Parra still have option? Can we just send him back to AAA? I’m sort of thinking we really messed up this guy’s development and promoted him too fast….he was starting to show good walk rates and low strikeout rates in 2008 and 2009….and then we brought him to the majors….and it’s just been downhill since….he already has plus defense…and with his speed consistently high BABIP is not unexpected….it seems pretty much out of the question that he’ll ever have power….but the issue with power is really just walks. if he ever learned how to recognize pitches at the MLB level….brought his walk rate back up to 10%, cut the K rate down to around 14-15%….he’d be a really good starting outfielder

by blue bulldog on Mar 10, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus defense

in the corners, you mean.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 10, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

'Skins didn't ask about Roberts.

Had he asked about Roberts, I’d have mentioned Roberts.

12-man Position player roster breakdown:
C: Miguel Montero and Henry Blanco
1B: Juan Miranda
2B: Kelly Johnson and Willie Bloomquist
SS: Stephen Drew
3B: Melvin Mora and Geoff Blum
LF: Xavier Nady and Gerardo Parra/Brandon Allen
CF: Chris Young
RF: Justin Upton

That’s 12 men. Guys who don’t make the roster: John Hester, Konrad Schmidt, Russell Branyan, one of Gerardo Parra/Brandon Allen, Tony Abreu, Wily Mo Pena, and Ryan Roberts.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 10, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

if Montero is back at 2009 levels

he should be batting 3rd

otherwise, i like your lineup, with the caveat that Branyan and Miranda will probably be platooning, but since I see them both in the 5-hole, i have no problem with that

i actually really like have a table-setter batting 9th. wish we implemented that, but i have a feeling that that’s not going to happen.

by blue bulldog on Mar 9, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno about Miggy

at 3rd, but it may be our best option.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 10, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

Montero is a lock to hit better than Mora, and will probably hit better than Allen and Miranda. Miggy should be above them, at least to start the year.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Mar 10, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

RYRO!!! He's got to be there!!!

Screw Abreu…get rid of him since he’s out of options…I’d much rather have RyRo than Abreu any day of the week! Send Gillespie to AAA…he, like Bloomquist, also has the personality of a wet mop. Don’t care for Cole’s attitude…I saw him signing for people and he wasn’t very nice to some little kids that politely asked him for his autograph, but then neither was Bloomquist. Everyone else smiled and signed for the kids and posed for pix with many of them.

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by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 10, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

We get it, you think bloomquist is a jerk because he smile and wasnt talkative.

That just tells me he is probably shy or anxious about soemthing. How would you like having 150 people shoving pens and balls into your face at the same time? Some people have good customer service and some dont.

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by justin1985 on Mar 10, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather...

See Ryan get the playing time because he’s worked his ass off for it…

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by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 11, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Different

people have different value systems. Let’s all move on.

Your dreck puts the "ick" in esoteric.

by soco on Mar 11, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope

That’s not how I roll, yo!

I look for many things: on-field especially…such as their hitting, defense, etc.

You all don’t know me as well as you think…

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'Last words are for fools who haven't said enough'. - Karl Marx

by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 11, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

For what? Inaccuracy?

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 11, 2011 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

She said "and" which implies she meant both.

So yes, Ojeda does suck at hitting and defense. Just defense he is decent.

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by justin1985 on Mar 11, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That's Jinnah's misrepresentation

Of April’s post. Again, inaccuracy.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 11, 2011 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not gonna lie, that's a bit of a dumb question,

Defense. Duh. Augie was spectacular at it.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 11, 2011 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

technically

“…hitting and defense? So … why’d you like Augie?” isn’t wrong because she uses “and” instead of “or”

on the other hand, you could argue that Rockkstarr didn’t really specify whether “and” or “or” was her proper intention when she said “such as their hitting, defense, etc.”

by blue bulldog on Mar 11, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Precisely

April was implying that she looks for various skills in any given player, such as either of those two.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 11, 2011 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

eh

while i did say you could argue that…

the much more reasonable interpretation of “hitting, defense, etc.” implies neither the extreme of being good at both hitting and defense, nor the extreme of only being good at one. moreso, it implies that there is a gradient of hitting/defense with which to judge a player. mathematically, it’d probably look something like A*(hitting) + B*(defense) > X means that she likes a hitter.

but even then, it’s not that simple, because the “etc.” means that there are other (albeit implicitly less significant) on the field factors. and the “on-field especially” implies that off-field matters as well, though also to a lesser extent.

textual analysis is pretty fun :)

by blue bulldog on Mar 11, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Putting way more thought into a statement than the person who actually made it probably did?

It’s like I’m taking literature classes again…

Bad doormat! No stock options!

by Clefo on Mar 11, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Sigh...

Well, for one, it could be a sum of linear weights rather than a product of linear weights.

On topic, Ojeda was worth 1.3 GF WAR in 2009. People were anticipating that he could have been our everyday 2B before the KJ signing. Clearly he was doing some things right.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 11, 2011 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

oh, for god's sake

everyone needs to lighten up. It was a little friendly teasing, nothing to spend time analyzing. Get over it.

by jinnah on Mar 11, 2011 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Given the amount of grief

April’s received over the last year about this very topic, it’s really not at the point of “friendly teasing” anymore. If you dish it, be prepared to receive it.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 11, 2011 4:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

then maybe

April should stop saying we should get rid of people based on their personalities and actually say something meaningful about baseball.

There’s a dozen reasons why Bloomquist shouldn’t be on the team. His personality isn’t one of them. If he pretended to like her like Augie did, he’d be her favorite.

by jinnah on Mar 11, 2011 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   3 recs

But,

this is the pit. It’s what we do.

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on Mar 11, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Even THAT

is debatable. Using TZ, extrapolated over 1200 innings last year, Augie was worth 15 fielding runs BELOW average. B-R has him at one run below average in the limited time he had.

Midway through the season last year, he was negative in terms of UZR, too, which was part of the reason for Zephon to post another of his yearly “DFA Augie Ojeda” FanPosts. We always expect Augie to suck at hitting, but last year, the first half of the season, he was TERRIBLE at fielding, too.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 11, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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