Diamondbacks' Reliever Carlos Rosa Going To Japan?
Well, this one came out of nowhere, and appears to have fallen through the cracks of the usual news outlets.
The Japan Series champion Chiba Lotte Marines are moving toward the acquisition of Arizona Diamondbacks right-handed reliever Carlos Rosa, a senior club official said Sunday. "We are examining the possibility of adding him to our pitching staff," Akira Ishikawa said. "There is another candidate. We'd like to move things forward quickly."
-- Japan Times
[Update: In what might well be related news, Steve Gilbert Tweets this morning that the team are "watching waiver wire very closely. Could nab a reliever there."]
Rosa came to Arizona from the Kansas City Royals in May last year, having been exchanged for minor-league shortstop Rey Navarro. He appeared in 20 games for the Diamondbacks, posting a 4.50 ERA, mostly in May and June, and was one of the candidates for a back-end bullpen spot this spring. He'd pitched pretty well this pre-season: over his ten appearances and nine innings, he had allowed ten hits and three earned runs, with a K:BB ratio of 9:2.
He's not the first player we've sent to Japan - most recently, infielder Rusty Ryal had his contract sold to the Yomiuri Giants. The downside is, it is purely a financial transaction, so will inevitably weaken the system, simply by the act of removing a player from it - you can't, say, get a Japanese prospect back [more's the pity - I'd go for Eri Yoshida, the female knuckeballer, just for the hell of it!]. That said, at age 26, Rosa was pretty much at the end of his string as far as prospect status goes, and when you only have 34 major-league innings by that point...
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Rosa has value
But no options. That is a dilemma for a player who probably won’t make the team out of camp.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 27, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
he's had a good spring though...
i wonder why they aren’t giving him a shot at the bullpen
i guess Mickolio it is then…?
by blue bulldog on Mar 27, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Lack of a consistent second pitch
Will make for an inconsistent reliever.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
or Vasquez
If Rosa is out, that leaves a 7 man bullpen of Putz, Hernandez, Demel, Gutierrez, Paterson, Heilman and one of Vasquez, Mickolio, or Norberto
yeah....
i was saying “guess Mickolio” mostly because i despise Vasquez…
Norberto, I think, is consensusly agreed upon that he could use another year in the minors to refine his control…
by blue bulldog on Mar 28, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Do we
REALLY need to keep selling players to Japan? Have they all been irradiated over there??
/tasteless
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On the plus side
When they come back, they’ll have superpowers…
"While Mrs. SnakePit watched one of the most highly acclaimed films of the year, I sat through a badly made schlock fest with absolutely no redeeming value. And it was awesome."
by Jim McLennan on Mar 28, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Juan Gutierrez
REALLY better than Carlos Rosa? Is Esmerling Vasquez?
I mean, if nobody inquires about Gutierrez or Vasquez, that’s one thing. It’d be nice to get SOMETHING from those three. But why Rosa? With our having bullpen problems the last two or three years, why sell a potentially valuable asset to Japan?
Maybe someone with more familiarity with their scouting reports can tell me more?
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I'd imagine
That it’s a combination of the scouting community loving Goot and not loving Rosa, as well as the fact that Rosa is out of options.
I don’t really get it, though I do know that Rosa needs to refine an off-speed offering before he can really work in the ’pen.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 28, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems to me
like it’s a choice between a might-be and a never-was, and we keep giving the never-was more chances, while totally ignoring the might-be. (Despite a 3.42 FIP last year in Reno)
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Are
the scouts really really high on Gutierrez or something? He sometimes has a decent fastball, and he had the pitches to originally be a starter in Houston’s system.
I mean, FanGraphs weighs peripherals more than scoring results in their WAR equations, but even THEY had Goot at -1.0 WAR last season. (The same guys who had Chad Qualls being worth 0.1 WAR for us last season)
If you like rWAR, they’ve got Gutierrez at 0.2 WAR over his MLB career, in 149 innings. And they have Rosa as being worth double that — 0.4 WAR — in HIS career, over 34 innings. fWAR gives Goot 0.6 and Rosa 0.2, which might make sense if you think they’re about equally good. But Goot’s been given repeated chances while Rosa hasn’t.
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You're preaching to the choir
Goot’s act has worn thin for my tastes. He was spectacularly lucky on HR/FB two years ago. That doesn’t mean he’s a good pitcher.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think
a lot of us agree with this….
which was why i was so confused when KT said at the beginning of winter that Guti/Demel were the two with the best chance at staying in the bullpen (from a year ago)
Obviously, I’m a huge proponent of Demel, and thought he was a no-brainer, but Guti has always left me with question marks.
by blue bulldog on Mar 29, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I REALLY
don’t understand why everyone in the freaking org LOVES Goot so much…
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by DbacksSkins on Mar 30, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Pitchers on Waivers
The Orioles cut 3 pitchers today who are a little bit interesting – Rick VandenHurk, Mark Hendrickson (L), and David Riske. Both VandenHurk and Hendrickson can start or pitch out of the bullpen. VandenHurk is only 25 and has some upside, although he is a flyball pitcher.
Hendrickson is the only intriguing one to me
Strictly because he’s a lefty. Riske is a huge injury case, and VandenHurk… well, I just don’t know enough about him.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 28, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you say
he’s an injury Riske?
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by DbacksSkins on Mar 28, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Gibson is going to the bullpen,
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It's happened.
Rosa was released.
Because, ya know, it’s a real good thing we’re getting rid of a credible reliever, given how intensely strong our bullpen was last year…
If Gutierrez implodes again this year, remember this move.
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Probably.
Also, I LOVE that we’re “checking the waiver wire” for relievers after selling one. Waaaaay to upgrade the team.
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