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Diamondbacks 3, Indians 7: Heilman's Not-So Last Stand

Aaron Heilman died by the long-ball this afternoon, giving up four earned runs in 5.1 innings, all of which crossed home-plate courtesy of Indians' home-runs - even if one actually came after Heilman had left the game. That shot came off reliever Carlos Rosa, with an inherited runner aboard, and given the score was tied at three when this happened, it also resulted in Heilman getting his first decision of spring, taking the loss.

More details after the jump.

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Heilman's final line was five hits and two walks, with five strikeouts. After opening the pre-season by allowing one hit over his first two outings, Aaron's numbers have been a little shakier of late, as he has been asked to pitch deeper into games. In his four outings since, Heilman has allowed 21 hits in 17.1 innings, leading to 13 earned runs, a 6.75 ERA. The main reason are the six home-runs given up in that time, and the K:BB ratio remains decent, at 10:4. IHSB, in the rotation thread, expressed unconcern - "It’s the Cactus League, HRs happen. Just keep the underlying rates steady, and you can’t ask for much more."

We'll see whether Kirk Gibson feels that way shortly. After this afternoon, our manager said of Heilman's work, "He pitched good until he got tired and started missing location in the fifth inning and got himself in trouble, got a couple of balls up." I'm wondering how many pitches Heilman threw before the tiredness set in: certainly, getting tired in the fifth is not what you want from a starter. He'll have one more start, on the 27th, before the decision has to be made, and I can see it going to the wire.

Jordan Norberto allowed a run in the seventh, but it was an unearned run, on an error by Willie Bloomquist. It was one of three made by the Diamondbacks today. Heilman was responsible for one on a pickoff throw, and Tony Abreu commited the third. Kam Mickolio pitched a scoreless eighth, but David Hernandez joined the home-run parade, allowing a long-ball in the ninth, completing the scoring. A decent 7:2 K:BB ratio for our pitching staff, almost the same as the 7:1 inflicted on our hitters (though the walk we got was an intentional one to Henry Blanco).

We took the lead in the first, on an RBI single from Russell Branyan, scoring Chris Young. We then tied the game at three in the fifth. Kelly Johnson made it a one-run game with a solo shot to right, and Ryan Roberts then leveled things, driving in Branyan with a single, though Roberts was thrown out trying to reach second-base. Branyan, Gerardo Parra and Abreu each had two hits for the Diamondbacks, but Abreu was also caught stealing. Depending on whether or not the team stats have been updated, that might mean we now have more failures than successes in that department this spring...

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give the final spot to Galaraga

think he can be more effective than Heilman

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by JustAJ on Mar 22, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Heilman deserves it.

Regardless of whether or not the idea of Spring Training competition is valid, that’s the way this team set it up. If they want to keep that clubhouse believing in their philosophy like they say they do, they’ll give Aaron a spot.

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 22, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

At least until Duke returns,

then the sample will be large enough to evaluate.
Don’t see how keeping Galarraga for 2M will help the team.

by xmet on Mar 22, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well sure

But I’d feel more more-comfortable (grammar win) with Galarraga in long relief than starting than Heilman in long relief than starting.

lulz that made no sense at all.

Also, I’d rather rather have Galarraga simply cut and save the $2MM, allowing us to build for the future.

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 22, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That logically makes sense

But remember we gave multiple years to Geoff Blum, I don’t know if this FO is really keen on saving money efficiently

Bad doormat! No stock options!

by Clefo on Mar 22, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely agree

heilman has earned the 5 spot. just some issues with letting some pitches drift a little high.. mostly aaron is throwing strikes & keeping the ball down, heilman could be a 5 starter on 2/3 of mlb teams..

by brian custer on Mar 22, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

that Heilman could “be a 5 starter on 2/3 on mlb teams”. He hasn’t really demonstrated the stamina yet, and he’s really only getting a chance because our rotation is in shambles. I suspect that’s a large part of why he re-signed with the club — the opportunity to earn a rotation spot.

Now, neither has Joe Saunders, but Saunders has a longer and more recent track record (of starting).

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 23, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Aaron!

Bad outing today but hey, can’t win ‘em all. I think he’s done well up to this point and with one more outing left in ST, he may still earn himself a spot in the rotation. I am thinking optimistically for him :)

"In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back." ~Charles M Schulz

'Last words are for fools who haven't said enough'. - Karl Marx

by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 22, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Today's outing wasn't horrible

Homers happen in the Cactus League with the thin air and open parks, and Heilman still missed bats and limited walks.

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 22, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's good

Just from reading a few things about today’s outing, each writer made it sound like Aaron was awful. Glad to know he wasn’t horrible at least.

"In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back." ~Charles M Schulz

'Last words are for fools who haven't said enough'. - Karl Marx

by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 22, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaron's performance today

should solidify the 5 spot for him. sorry jim, your anti-heilman negativity is not working…

by brian custer on Mar 22, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

And after Jim went to all that trouble of making that voodoo doll.

"What everybody needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome. That is the new law."

by kishi on Mar 22, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

CAN YOU GIVE IT UP!?!?!?

Well, you don't ever want to miss that.

by 4 Corners Fan on Mar 23, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's never gonna give it up

He’s never gonna… AHHH ::gets electroshocked::

Bad doormat! No stock options!

by Clefo on Mar 23, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Arggggh

NO WIRE HANGERS. EVER.

Your dreck puts the "ick" in esoteric.

by soco on Mar 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rick-Rolling and Baseball...

Give Rick Astley a bat or better yet, let him pitch!

"In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back." ~Charles M Schulz

'Last words are for fools who haven't said enough'. - Karl Marx

by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 23, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you always have to ruin my fun?

"In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back." ~Charles M Schulz

'Last words are for fools who haven't said enough'. - Karl Marx

by Rockkstarr12 on Mar 24, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I

try.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

fun-ruining

is not exclusive to you. he does it to everyone :p

I don't let facts get in the way of my opinion.

by jinnah on Mar 24, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird

I thought he just wanted to see the best pitcher get the spot.

"What everybody needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome. That is the new law."

by kishi on Mar 23, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just because

he doesn’t fawn over Heilman doesn’t mean he has a dog in this fight.

I haven’t really seen Jim take a side either way. He’s just reporting. And if anything, it sounds like he’s being a bit TOO cautious about today’s outing.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 23, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Like I have any input!

Fact: starters should not be “tired” in the fifth, and allowing four runs in 5.1 innings is also mediocre at best.

"While Mrs. SnakePit watched one of the most highly acclaimed films of the year, I sat through a badly made schlock fest with absolutely no redeeming value. And it was awesome."

by Jim McLennan on Mar 23, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok jim

we are still in ST. we don’t really know if aaron was “tired” or not, do we?

by brian custer on Mar 23, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what his manager said

I imagine he should know if anyone did.

"While Mrs. SnakePit watched one of the most highly acclaimed films of the year, I sat through a badly made schlock fest with absolutely no redeeming value. And it was awesome."

by Jim McLennan on Mar 23, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aha

You forget the Michigan State conspiricy

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by Clefo on Mar 23, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you even read the posts?

“our manager said of Heilman’s work, “He pitched good until he got tired”.

Please, Brian, stop with the reactive bit. It’s very very old.

Well, you don't ever want to miss that.

by 4 Corners Fan on Mar 23, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

...and that's

coming from a ND fan, no less.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 23, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very true, but it raises the question -

If he was losing it in the fifth due to being tired, why did he start the sixth?

As I recall the last start he had a rocky fourth, breezed through the fifth, and was pulled. And at least once before he felt he could have gone further than he did. Could be the stretching out process has been stunted by not pushing before, and this was the result?

by xmet on Mar 23, 2011 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why did he start the sixth?

Well, have you ever heard of a real competitor NOT wanting the ball?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 23, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just that when he wanted to keep going in prior

games Gibby didn’t let him, and in this game Gibby sees that he’s losing it in the fifth he lets him go on. If Gibby was trying to stretch him out more it was probably a good thing, if he expected him to pitch well in the sixth it would be a bad sign for things to come.

Conditioning requires pushing, based on how one is reacting to the activity, not just an arbitrary pitch or innings count. From where I sit it appears that not pushing him when he felt good could have resulted in a plateau, because he wasn’t pushed enough previously.

by xmet on Mar 24, 2011 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's anything that particular.

I think ALL the starters are going deeper into games as the spring goes on.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um...?

It doesn’t really sound like Aaron solidified anything today? Not a particularly GOOD performance?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Mar 23, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

If there's anybody on this board who absolutely doesn't have an agenda...

I’d say it’s Jim.

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 23, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Memo to #5 starter...

…please keep the locker clean so Mr. Parker can move right in this June. Thanks!

"Ever notice that people never say "It's only a game" when they're winning?" -Ivern Ball

by madeinmontreal on Mar 23, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

I'm working my way to grumpy old curmudgeon status with all the grace I can muster.

by pygalgia on Mar 23, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nonono

That’s Saunders’ job. The weakest link come June needs to keep their locker open for Duke.

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 23, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heilman vs. Galarraga

since Kennedy/Hudson/Enright have been locked up, and i don’t think most people really consider Saunders as being left out of the rotation

Heilman: 22.1 IP, 12 K, 6 Freebies (BB+HBP), 6 HR
Galarraga: 16 IP, 10 K, 6 Freebies, 3 HR

That looks pretty similar to me. And I actually want Heilman to take the job, since then we can cut Galarraga and save $2 million.

by blue bulldog on Mar 23, 2011 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Galarraga

How soon do we need to make that decision (and still be able to save the $2 million)?

I got nothin'.

by Bcawz on Mar 23, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except, we then need to replace Heilman in the bullpen

And if you want someone of equal value i.e. non-replacement level, you’ll need to pay them, say, around Heilman’s 201 salary, which is…
$2 million.
Yeah, I don’t think finances would really factor into that decision very much.

"While Mrs. SnakePit watched one of the most highly acclaimed films of the year, I sat through a badly made schlock fest with absolutely no redeeming value. And it was awesome."

by Jim McLennan on Mar 23, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos Rosa? Esmerling Vasquez? Kam Mickolio?

These guys all make $400k, and probably two of them won’t make the team if Galarraga is in the rotation and Heilman is in the ’pen.

Finances could very easily factor into this decision.

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 23, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence my use of "if you want someone of equal value"

I wouldn’t say any of that trio would be as good in the bullpen as Heilman.

"While Mrs. SnakePit watched one of the most highly acclaimed films of the year, I sat through a badly made schlock fest with absolutely no redeeming value. And it was awesome."

by Jim McLennan on Mar 23, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, careful Jim.

Your hate for Heilman is showing again with that praise.

by Azreous on Mar 23, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Typo

“Jordan Norberto allowed a run in the seventh, but it was an earned run, on an error by Willie Bloomquist.”

Bloomquist commiting an error would make it an unearned run.

by imstillhungry95 on Mar 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Good catch

Corrected.

"While Mrs. SnakePit watched one of the most highly acclaimed films of the year, I sat through a badly made schlock fest with absolutely no redeeming value. And it was awesome."

by Jim McLennan on Mar 23, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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