Diamondbacks 5, Cubs 7: No Order of Release For Arizona
The day started off badly, with the news that starting pitcher Zach Duke will miss 6-8 weeks in total, thanks to a broken hand. And it didn't get much better, as the televisual treat of this afternoon's game at SRF@TS turned into another defeat for the Diamondbacks - their sixth in a row, sinking the Cactus League record to 5-15. Another crowd of over twelve thousand at the game, taking Arizona's tally for the year over six figures: just a shame the performance was one which should, largely, have remained hidden on the back fields.
Daniel Hudson started for Arizona, and didn't actually pitch too badly, especially in the first couple of innings, where he broke out a particularly-effective slider, something which has always been very much his third pitch in previous years [his excellent fastball and change-up being his bread and butter]. If that does indeed prove to be the case, then it's a great weapon to have, and will make him even more likely to be a key component of our rotation in the coming years. He retired the first eight Cubs batters faced this afternoon, four of them on strikeouts, and looked to be cruising at that stage in proceedings.
However, the final out in the third proved troublesome, and it took him five attempts to get it, albeit not helped by a Ryan Roberts error. That helped the Cubs score two runs, one unearned. The fourth inning didn't open much better: Hudson allowed a solo home-run to lead things off, and then Brandon Allen appeared to lose a ball in the left-field sun, letting it clank off his glove for a three-base error. One out later, Hudson's afternoon was done: the inherited runner would score against Jordan Norberto, giving him a final line of four runs, two earned, on three hits and walk, over 3.1 innings - probably the best outing by a starter we've seen during the losing streak.
After Norberto, David Hernandez pitched a solid inning, but Carlos Rosa struggled in the sixth, allowing three hits and walk. They resulted in two more Chicago Runs, although one was unearned - Rosa loaded the bases with no-one out, but then fumbled the ball trying to come home for the force-play. He then struck out the next better, issued a bases-loaded walk, and finally did better with another comebacker, throwing home successfully this time, and Miguel Montero then getting the runner at first. Rafael Rodriguez, Leyson Septimo and Sam Demel threw the final three frames, Septimo allowing a RBI single following a walk and hit batter.
We outhit the Cubs by a margin of 13-8 - the three unearned runs proved costly today, and we also hit into no less than five double-plays, capped off by Wily Mo Pena's pinch-hit game-ender (he represented the winning run at the time, as we had scored three in the ninth to make the score look more respectable). Kelly Johnson, Gerardo Parra and Allen each had two hits, while Ryan Roberts had a hit and a walk. Allen clubbed his first home-run of spring, and Chris Young's double was the only other extra-base hit for the Diamondbacks this afternoon. With three errors and Johnson's caught stealing, it wasn't a very positive show, as far as those fundamentals go.
Still, it was fun in the Gameday Thread, where we racked up 367 comments. DbacksSkins is clearly in regular season form with 95 comments, more than twice as many as the second-placed snakecharmer, with blue bulldog in third. Also taking part were: njjohn, Wimb, JoeStock, pygalgia, Jim McLennan, dbacks25, Dallas D'Back Fan, NASCARbernet, 4 Corners Fan, jinnah, xmet, emilylovesthedbacks, brian custer, Alfred E. Neuman, and dbacks watcher.
An off-day for Arizona tomorrow, marking the rough mid-point of spring training. After the generally mediocre, shall we say, performances of the first twenty games, we'll be hoping for better in the second-half - they were speaking to Kirk Gibson during the game, and he basically said he wants to be impressed. In other words, he hasn't been so far, and I can hardly blame him. The offense seems to have been not too bad, but in just about every other area - defense, pitching, base-running, etc. - we've been short of the mark. Time to step it up, lads.
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Look at the bright side,
we could have a very high pick in the ’12 draft.
If at first you don't succeed, try left field.
Free Brandon Allen!
it's sad
that we’re talking tankapalooza this early…
by blue bulldog on Mar 13, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Over/under on August 18?
With KT and the Fiery one at 2 year contracts, does KT throw the fiery one overboard?
No Julio Franco, no peace.
by Reynolds rapper on Mar 14, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
How many of the 12,000+
were Cubs fans? Because we all know…
Well, you don't ever want to miss that.
The DBacks would have drawn 50 people
without the Cubs.
No Julio Franco, no peace.
by Reynolds rapper on Mar 14, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude,
like, -3000. The Cubs drew 15000 today.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Mar 14, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Just a clever ploy (along with the white shades and
upward tilt to his cap) to deemphasize the ears.
With a fiery yawn to boot!
by xmet on Mar 14, 2011 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Live long and prosper?
No Julio Franco, no peace.
by Reynolds rapper on Mar 14, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Not without pointed ears.
But he did seem to have the Captain on his side last year.
Branyan's 4 hit game on Sat.
was the most impressive thing this spring.
No Julio Franco, no peace.
by Reynolds rapper on Mar 14, 2011 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Took place on a back field
Away from the public gaze.
"While Mrs. SnakePit watched one of the most highly acclaimed films of the year, I sat through a badly made schlock fest with absolutely no redeeming value. And it was awesome."
by Jim McLennan on Mar 14, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Hernandez has been pretty
this spring and yet he hasn’t even put in high gear yet. This spring so far they are batting a measley .053, that 1 for 18. The downside so far are his 5 walks but he will get better as soon he finds his slider. The slider he threw to Byrd yesterday was just pure nasty and that’s a small example how nasty that pitch can be. I’ve been following David since his minor league days and I’ll say this the Orioles are going to really miss him.
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by JustAJ on Mar 14, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hitters
aren’t going to bat 1-18 during the regular season, however.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Mar 14, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
that wasn't my point
Point was is that he’s been impressive so far.
yeah
the walks are bad…..but i do agree that that slider yesterday was downright filthy…
by blue bulldog on Mar 14, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really excited. . .
. . . with Hernandez. Walks are a concern but if you’re only hitting .053, I guess it’s it won’t hurt too much.
I was there
That game was UGLY! I felt bad for RyRo…but he’ll shake that error off and go be scrappy again. I was bummed the Cubs didn’t bring Augie for this game…
My dad is out here visiting me (got in yesterday afternoon) and I am taking him to the DBacks/Gnats game at SRF tomorrow night
"In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back." ~Charles M Schulz
'Last words are for fools who haven't said enough'. - Karl Marx
So far...
“It’s only Spring Training…” Yeah, that goes so far.
At any rate, my projections for the season remain that starting and relief pitching would be stronger than last year, and offense weaker. The key therefore would be how well the defense plays.
So far, in the Spring, the starting pitching has been abysmal, the relief pitching generally okay. Offense has been fair to good, but defense deplorable.
Result: 5-15 Spring thus far.
I would say there’s still work to be done before the season starts. How’s that for going out on a limb?
The Great and Mighty....
Eh.
I would say there’s still work to be done before the season starts. How’s that for going out on a limb?
Eh, not bad. Not great. How’s that for criticism?
Mr. Science Boy
Well...
the glass is either half empty or half full, depending on one’s perspective on the matter.
The Great and Mighty....
by NASCARbernet on Mar 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know...
The Great and Mighty....
by NASCARbernet on Mar 14, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't understand why people think our offense is going to be that much worse than last year....
we kept everyone except Laroche and Reynolds
Laroche is seriously replaceable by a combo of Branyan/Miranda (in fact, i’d suspect that combo is better than the numbers Laroche put up last year)
and Reynolds last year’s numbers are probably similar to what our 3B combo this year can put up. even if our 3B combo somehow manages to be worse than Reynolds last year, we can reasonably expect Upton to improve upon his line last year to compensate
the point is….our offense isn’t going to be drastically different from last year’s from an overall production standpoint
by blue bulldog on Mar 14, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this
Our offensive should be fine and I think our defensive will shore up. We are strong up the middle. 3rd base and LF is a concern though.
by Baseballdad on Mar 15, 2011 12:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
I think people keep thinking that potential for regression this year from Reynolds magically factored into how “good” our offense was last year when, in reality, he was extremely replaceable last year.
As for Laroche, he was the definition of league-average last year. Literally. There’s also this, but I don’t think many ’Pitters are getting caught in that trap.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 15, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Extremely replaceable last year?
2.4 WAR?
As for LaRoche, he was league-average at 1B. That doesn’t necessarily mean we can find a 1B that replaces his production.
Mr. Science Boy
Offensively
.328 wOBA.
The fact that his defense was over a full run better than any other full season of his career has nothing to do with the team’s offense.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 15, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
A full win*
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 15, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
this
i think people are confusing the defense with the hitting too
offensively, there should be no dropoff overall from last year
defense is where it could get scary, as potentially our defense at 1B, 3B, and LF could each suffer a dropoff. then there’s natural regression at the defensive positions that were stellar last year, and we could potentially see us go from 5+ wins above average from defense, to only say…1 win above average
by blue bulldog on Mar 15, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is
kind of a joke, because everyone keeps pounding “DEFENSE!” as a point of emphasis this year.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Mar 15, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
3B really depends
On how old Mora shows himself to be there. If he can still be an average defender there, I don’t think we’ll see much of a decline in 3B production. Mora can certainly muster a .328 wOBA or better. The D is the issue.
1B should be an improvement, if you ask me. Between Miranda and Branyan, particularly Branyan, I think we’ll definitely get 2 WAR, if not more.
LF… how could it get much worse? Yeah, Parra’s got a glove, but if we choose to give Allen his at-bats, I think it’ll make up for the glove difference.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 16, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Good call.
I was working from memory.
Although it DOES affect the team’s runs.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Mar 15, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well sure
Though I’m not so sure Mora can’t be a 2 WAR 3B. Or at least be on that pace until his body breaks down.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 16, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
the problem is that...in your terms...
this is a very real, non-zero possibility
by blue bulldog on Mar 16, 2011 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Well played, sir.
But, at the same time, RyRo is likely the first replacement for Mora in that event. Which isn’t a terrible thing.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 16, 2011 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Spring Training. . .
. . . is what is. The only thing that bothers me is the defense. The starting pitching hasn’t been that good, the relief pitching was been good especially Hernandez and Demel have been pretty impressive. Defensive is the key!!
Agreed about defense being key
The Great and Mighty....
by NASCARbernet on Mar 14, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
In this picture,
Parra looks vaguely like the Bukkit Walrus.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
by Dan Strittmatter on Mar 16, 2011 3:11 AM EDT reply actions

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