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First Base Dilemma


As you all know our Dbacks have created a logjam of players at first base. Unfortunately, none of them actually stand out above the others to start and we are face with the problem of picking one. I know there have already been many articles about this, but here is my two cents... hit the jump!

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First we will go through all of the first basemen that will or could get some major playing time this year:

 

Brandon Allen: We all know that he he has all of the potential that could win him the starting first base job on many teams in the MLB. But in the limited time he has been in the major leagues, he has not shown anything to us that convinces us he will be any good. He racked in the minor leagues, so he has nothing more to prove there, so I cannot see us sending him back there. Unfortunately, I see him devolping as more of a AAAA player instead of a solid major leaguer. I can see him as a backup, but I really want him to take charge in Spring Training and take the job. Some of the stats thta stand out to me are a .221 average throughout his career with 60 strikeouts in 149 ABS. That is a strikeout every 2.5 at bats folks. That is worse than Mark Reynolds and I do NOT want another Mark Reynolds striking out every time. The bright side about Allen however, is the monster power that he posseses. If he can come through, he could form into a Derrek Lee type player I think. That is his roof.

Juan Miranda: He came over in the Scottie Allen trade with the Yankees. I actually am pretty high on this guy. Kevin Towers did work in the Yankees system last year and he is familiar with him. I had a chance to speak with Towers at the fanfest, and I did an interview for a school project. Afterwards, we discussed many things, and Miranda came up. He said he is very high on him and believes he was blocked by Giambi and Teixera for too long. He has monster power potential, even more than Allen in my opinion, and he strikes out less. I say that we start off by giving him the job if he performs admireably in Spring Training, because I think he can prove to everyone that he can really play the game. Miranda actually has a more respectable .253 average over the course of his career. and has 4 homeruns in 83 at bats. I realize that is not outstanding, but take into account that he was coming off the bench cold and getting 1 at bat 1 day at a time usually.

Russell Branyan: For some reason whatsoever, I have always liked Branyan. He seems like a classy, nice guy who can mentor Allen/Miranda, and still hit 30+ home runs in a season. The problem is that he brings way too many strikeouts to the club. If he can only strikeout 90 times as a bench player, or 150 as a starter, I would deem that as a success. But his average is a problem, he has only hit .234 for his career which I do not like. He is probably most suited for a bench role behind Miranda, or we could send him to AAA and keep Allen, or we could trade Allen. Signing him really complicated things furthur which is alos a con of this whole situation.

Xavier Nady/Geoff Blum: I combine these two players because they will probably not see much time at all at first base, seeing as they have other postions that need to be filled. They will be useful backups at some point if someone gets injured, but hey won't see much time there.


Paul Goldshmidt: I really like him and if he is really good during Spring Training, then I could actualy see him winning the job on opening day. I know it would be a huge stretch, but he has monster potential with lots of homers, but when homers come, strikeouts do too. He could be a dark horse this year for top rookie actually in my mind. If nothing goes according to plan, he will be a September callup.

Micah Owings: Yes, I must include him on the list because I think that if he plays at first base and pitches, he could be one of our most valuable players. He has 9 homeruns in 184 at bats over his career. If he gets his average up, and he gets to START at first, he would have the potential to hit 30+ homeruns in 650+ at bats, or even more. home runs. I see him just pinch hitting here and there this year, but I am just saying that he COULD be valuable.

Ok, well that is pretty much it and I even didn't include our first basemen of the future if Paul doesn't pan out: Bobby Borchering. So what do YOU think the Dbacks should do?

Poll
1st Base Situation
Start Allen
15 votes
Start Miranda
7 votes
Start Branyan
8 votes
Trade Allen and go with Miranda/Branyan
10 votes
Trade Miranda and go with Allen/Branyan
1 votes
Start Goldshmidt
5 votes
Start Nady/Blum
1 votes
Start Owings
7 votes
Just start whoever had a good game the previous night
0 votes

54 votes | Poll has closed

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Can we get

a first base option that does not fit the “wow, the power potential is amazing, too bad the average is so low and the strikeouts are so high” mold? I know it’s a power position, but we seem to be producing / trading for / signing clones to compete against each other.

by Counsellmember on Feb 18, 2011 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Otherwise

my vote would be for Miranda mostly. We control him, and I think Towers traded for him even before he became our GM, so he must be plenty impressed with the potential.

by Counsellmember on Feb 18, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

not everyone has a daric barton in the majors

or brandon belt in the minors

our last chance to have someone like that ended up getting valley fever and basically saw his baseball career tank

by blue bulldog on Feb 19, 2011 5:01 AM EST up reply actions  

A Bit Premature

I’ll wait and see what they each show in ST. Branyon is the only one with a “major league” track record, and it’s not stellar. I’ve liked BAs potential, and Miranda also looks to have it, but neither is ‘proven’. In short, let’s see who wins the job.
(if Nady/Blum ends up the starter, the ’Backs are really in trouble)

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by pygalgia on Feb 18, 2011 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Start Owings? really guys? really?

Hasn’t this team been enough of a joke the last two years? If Allen or Miranda don’t step up this spring then Branyan is going to get the job. He might strike out a ton and play average defense, but the dude can probably hit 30 bombs and costs the team basically nothing.

by txzona on Feb 18, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

What if?

What if Owings is the best candidate through Sprint Training? Is it unrealistic to believe that at the end of March we may have an injured Branyan, a sputtering Miranda, and a hole in left field best filled by Allen?

I didnt vote for Owings, but his inclusion on the roster doesn’t automatically make the team a joke (at least, no more than if any of the other options took his place).

by Counsellmember on Feb 18, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Put em all in the Thunderdome

That’ll sort it out.

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by Clefo on Feb 18, 2011 5:48 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

well

the owings option was pretty much meant as a joke, BUT i still think he could put up numbers starting

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by fandbacks on Feb 18, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Owings

strikes out a TON — as a hitter, not a pitcher. That’s one of his problems.

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by DbacksSkins on Feb 24, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh

That was only a problem when we still had LaRoche and Reynolds on the roster.

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by kishi on Feb 24, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably because

he never worked on his hitting a whole lot… he’ll most likely drop his K% as he hits more.

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by Jdub220 on Feb 25, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Branyan is the best choice

And Miranda can be his injury insurance. Allen probably will platoon in LF with Nady if the team can’t get a suitable return for him on the trade market. Owings is a bench bat/relief arm hybrid option. Blum deserves absolutely no time at first base whatsoever.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Feb 19, 2011 1:16 AM EST reply actions  

Blum deserves not anywhere whatsoever

His sole Job is to just come in to the club house and say “Hey guys im here to provide veteran presence”

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by BattleMoses on Feb 19, 2011 4:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And play solid defense

Which has less value at first then at third, second, or shortstop, where he’ll probably be filling in.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Feb 19, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

i agree with this plan…

i don’t understand why ppl are discounting branyan so much. as long as he’s healthy (admittedly a big if) he’s going to be an above-average starting calibre 1B. and if he’s not healthy, isn’t that the whole point to having this much depth?

the problem as i see it right now is who’s our bench? if we assume blum, bloomquist, miranda are definitely making it on the bench, (nady/mora/branyan our ostensible starting LF/3B/1B) then that leaves only two spots for the likes of Allen, Parra, Abreu, Owings.

by blue bulldog on Feb 19, 2011 5:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

First, did you forget Blanco? Second, I’d bet Abreu and Parra go to the minors. And third, Owings doesn’t make this team unless it’s as a pitcher first.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Feb 19, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Owings is a long shot to make it

Especially if it takes a spot from Demel or Joe Patterson. Abreu will probably make it because he can play short, and Allen can play left with just as much power as Owings.

by txzona on Feb 19, 2011 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ugh

i did forget blanco….

so then that’s one spot between Allen, Parra, Abreu

hopefully we decide to keep Allen. but i mean, the way our FO seems to hate him, that’s definitely not a given.

by blue bulldog on Feb 19, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

No reason for Allen to go to Reno

His peripherals there are fantastic. Abreu and Parra still could use approach work, which is even noticeable at Reno by their poor walk rates.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Feb 19, 2011 5:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Blum appears to be the backup SS

Yeah he’s old, but was reportedly serviceable there for the ’Stros last year. Not like Abreu was any good there last year…

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by Dan Strittmatter on Feb 19, 2011 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

UGH!

Abreu is a very bad word in my vocabulary…I really hope he tanks it and we let him go. I’d rather see Ryan Roberts play than Abreu but of course I LIKE Ryan

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by Rockkstarr12 on Feb 19, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t understand why ppl are discounting branyan so much.

In a vacuum, I am very high on this pickup. The problem I have with it, however, is that Branyan will take ABs away from two young, controlable prospects with very decent upside. Certainly I would expect Branyan to outperform Allen and Miranda in 2011, but is that the end goal?

What happens in 2012? If Branyan is awesome, he will be somewhere else. If he is mediocre or worse, we will be playing the same musical chairs game that we are this year. I am increasingly frustrated that fan and FO alike don’t know what the gameplan is this year…compete at the cost of the future, compete to the best of our abilities without sacrificing prospects, or rebuilding mode? To me, the Branyan move smells of the first path, which IMO is the wrong one.

by Counsellmember on Feb 19, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

but neither allen or miranda

are in our long term plans for 1B or LF

as much as i would like allen to be given a shot as well, right now we have tons of prospects who are part of our long-term plans for those two positions

by blue bulldog on Feb 20, 2011 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

But they have value

Allen and Miranda may not be the starting 1b/LF in 2013 (then again, they may be), but as bench fodder they completely lose value to the team. Whether we trade them or play them, we shouldn’t just let them rot on the bench or in the minor leagues where they will just continue to age.

And even though we have great hope for those two positions to be filled capably from within in a few years, none of those guys are slam dunks. Allen and Miranda are our birds in the hand, and we all know that’s worth two in the bush leagues :)

by Counsellmember on Feb 20, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not Branyan/Owings platoon ?

It doesn’t make sense to pair up two lefties to platoon at first base, so the options of Miranda/Branyan or Allen/Branyan make little sense.

If Owings can really hack it in part time duty at first base getting 25% of the starts vs. LHP, then use Nady as the Right Handed half of a platoon with Parra in LF.

Otherwise, just pair Branyan and Nady at 1b, and give Gillespie another shot as the Right handed half of a platoon in LF with Parra. Gillespie hit lefties very well throughout his minor league career. I don’t think we can write him off as a potential platoon guys vs. LHP based off of the 50 PA’s he had last year vs. lefties.

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by shoewizard on Feb 19, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Let's just hope

That Branyan can stay healthy. That’s been a big problem for him in the past

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by Rockkstarr12 on Feb 20, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true

he won’t help if his back flares up.

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by shoewizard on Feb 21, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Good thing there are a few options available in case this does happen

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by Rockkstarr12 on Feb 21, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't really

put much stock in the fact that KT worked in the Yankees’ system and traded for Miranda. KT has brought in a BUNCH of shitty guys simply because he had a history with them — Sean Freaking Burroughs, for example.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Feb 24, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

But they didn't cost anything

Miranda cost Scott Allen.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Feb 24, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I know,

which still pisses me off. I’m just responding to this:

Kevin Towers did work in the Yankees system last year and he is familiar with him.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Feb 24, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I can’t stand Burroughs, never could really. I don’t see why Kevin is so high on this kid. He’s worthless!

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by Rockkstarr12 on Feb 24, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

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