2011 'Pitties: Unsung Hero
We're back to the landslides again, as Josh Collmenter won the 'Pittie Award for Rookie of the Year at a canter, getting two-thirds of all ballots cast. Paul Goldschmidt was second, on 29%. I expect things will be a good deal tighter for this award - simply due to its very nature, there is no obvious candidate, because if there was an obvious candidate, he probably wouldn't be eligible as an 'Unsung Hero'. This award is for those who made a contribution to the team or deserve recognition, while not receiving the recognition which perhaps they deserve. It's a bit of a vague, subjective category, but you'll find details of the five nominees after the jump...
Sean Burroughs
115 PAs wouldn't normally get you any nomination, but the Sean Burrough story is far from normal. As is now a matter of record, this former Little League World Series winner and first-round draft pick was basically down-and-out on the streets of Las Vegas, before cleaning himself up and getting an invite to spring training. From Reno, he basically forced his way onto the roster (he hit .412 for the Aces this year), and though he struggled initially - as you'd expect after four years out of pro-ball - he found his groove, hitting .340 in his last 36 games, and with a crucial hit in Game 5 of the NLDS. A far more deserving Comeback Player of the Year than Lance Berkman.
Micah Owings
Micah was the Swiss Army knife of the 2011 Diamondbacks. Need a starter? Sure. Work out of the bullpen? Not a problem? Heck, he even pinch-hit for Arizona. But it was his pitching that was his forte, and he was very effective for most of the season - on August 26, his 2.50 ERA was the lowest on the club. The team won all four of his spot starts, Micah went 3-0 with a 3.54 ERA, including five shutout innings of two-hit ball (below), as he beat Ubaldo Jimenez and the Rockies. Owings ended the year with an 8-0 record - albeit thanks to RyRo's walk-off grand-slam against LA - becoming only the eighth player in NL historyy to with eight or more games without any losses.
Ryan Roberts
RyRo ended the year third among third-baseman in the NL by bWAR, and tied for first by fWAR. Not bad for a guy who was about the last guy on to the 25-man roster out of spring training, and only made it because of an injury to Geoff Blum. He hit .313 with five home-runs in April, and ended the year with 19 long-balls, almost twice as many as Ryan had in his career prior to this season. He also made regular season starts at second-base and in left-field. As well as his walk-off slam against LA, Roberts hit safely in all five post-season contests, going 7-for-20 with a 1.050 OPS, two home-runs and six RBI, including a grand-slam in Game Four. Here's his two-HR game from April vs. CIN.
Joe Saunders
Saunders delivered his best ERA since 2008, a 3.69 figure that continued to defy sabermetric expectations. Joe was probably the most consistent Arizona starter: his worst Game Score all season was 25, compared to Daniel Hudson's 16 and Ian Kennedy's 8. [Saunders' 37 consecutive starts with a GS of 25+ is the eighth-longest active such streak in the majors] 61% of Joe's outings were quality starts, considerably above the league average of 54%, and he certainly deserved a better record than 12-13 - in those thirteen losses, the offense gave Saunders an average of just 2.8 runs in support. Here is Joe's start from June, when he shut-out the Nationals for seven frames.
Chris Young
Sitting between Gold Glove winner Gerardo Parra and MVP-candidate Justin Upton in the Arizona outfield, Young quietly chalked up another very good season, leading the team's hitters in bWAR with 4.8 and finishing second to Upton in fWAR (4.6). Over the past two years, Young is 4th by bWAR or 6th in fWAR at his position in the majors, but there was no All-Star game spot for him at Chase in 2011. Young has missed only 56 games since the end of 2006, and has played 80 more than anyone else for the Diamondbacks in that time. He homered three times in the NLDS and was named the MLB.com Postseason Performer at CF
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I think a lot of people sang Dread Pirate
this past year. The real unsung hero is one who performed much better than expected. For me, it was between Owings and Saunders, and I selected Saunders, but it was very close.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 29, 2011 3:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
I picked Owings, because I expected more of Saunders than Owings, but I could have gone with either of those two.
by Craig from Az on Dec 30, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I went with Chris Young.
He’s quietly been one of the better Center Fielders in the game for the past few years now. Good defense, and he gets the job done with the bat (though it isn’t always pretty).
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It's hard to say
Sean burroughs had the clutch homer that snapped our losing streak. CY came up big in the NLDS but thats about it. Joe saunders pitched real well in the game we clinched the west. ryan roberts had a bunch of key hits and hr’s as well as the walk off grand slam.
But Dread Pirate
was not an unsung hero. He was often singled out for all around clutchiness and, according to the Snakepit ladies, all around adorableness. No, the unsung hero is someone who quietly directly transformed the team into a contender. For me, it boiled down to Owings and Saunders, and I selected Saunders because other than April and myself, nobody wanted him in the rotation. His tag out of that runner early in the season marked the change of the D’backs’ mindset from just collecting paychecks to actually going out and playing hard. That was a sea change from a team that just tossed lob balls for Soriano to belt out of the ball park.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 29, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I’m on the same wavelength. I think of “Unsung” as someone not really talked about a lot (or a song by Helmet), and there was a good deal of chatter about Roberts from us and elsewhere.
Of course, this could turn into the same sort of debate that people have about the world “Valuable” in the MVP award.
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I guess my initial support of Saunders was too
low key to notice, personally I thought the delay in naming him as a starter was a bunch of mickey mouse cr_p.
Owings seemed to have a lot of supporters, and a fair amount of resulting praise, making Saunders in a league of his own for lack of song from my perspective.
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Mickey Mouse or not
the previous season after he came over from the trade, his performance was dismal. He definitely stepped it up a couple of notches though last year.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 29, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
This
And yes, I chose my Mound Man…Bazooka Joe!
I miss you Bazooka Joe!!!
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by Rockkstarr12 on Dec 30, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
CY!!!!
It’s a nice piece oof mind not having to think " oh crap they just scorched a ball to center, hope we can get to it" CY gets to them.
Freeze it..and make a popsicle
by Baja F1 on Dec 29, 2011 5:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm with Clefo and NASCAR
about RyRo. He was a very important piece of the team last year, but his praises were sung mightily by basically everyone. Not very unsung in my opinion. Personally, my vote went to The Naked Lunch, himself, Sean Burroughs.
While Burroughs was fairly well hated for the first half of the season, he really got his act together for the second half, and was as big a contributor as possible when you usually come in off the bench. Also, Go away, Lance Berkman. You had a pretty nice comeback yourself, but it pales in comparison to what Burroughs did this year
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 29, 2011 5:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Burroughs developed into a potent off the bench singles threat
so now he’s gone. Go figure. Some of these moves lately leave me scratching my head.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 29, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would
rather Burroughs had stayed, but don’t think either of us are KT, so our opinions don’t matter much in the end
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 29, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Same here
but we don’t know the whole story. We didn’t understand why he was on the roster in the first place when he couldn’t hit the ball out of the infield, then once he got into the swing of things, he’s shipped out. Baseball; it’s not a business, it’s a mystery…in a conundrum…wrapped in a riddle.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 29, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think
it’s actually in the secret job desorption of being a GM
- Must be able to make moves that no ordinary human would think to make, and then have them work out for you
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 29, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
We've seen what happens
when those moves don’t work…one will be offered an executive job with Padres.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 29, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Let's see
Josh, Omar, is there room for more?
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Not me
IMO there is no spot on the roster for Burroughs. I wish him well, but do not wish him back on the team.
by Craig from Az on Dec 30, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
but I would much rather have Burroughs than say Blum. I think that Burroughs would have been able to do more for the team next year, even though we would have had to eat Blum’s salary
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 30, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe so
I guess I would prefer to have NEITHER Blum nor Burroughs. I have a slight preference to give Blum a try because I already saw what Burroughs provides, and I was not impressed. Maybe you are right, and Blum will be even worse.
by Craig from Az on Dec 30, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Why would you have neither, might I ask?
Personally, I think the team needs someone on the bench who can PH well, and on a very occasional basis field a position.
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 30, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Me too!
Particularly signing Kubel and not re-signing Joe!
I miss you Bazooka Joe!!!
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by Rockkstarr12 on Dec 30, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Owings
Saved us out of the ‘pen a bunch last season, came in and ate innings well, can’t say I expected anything from him coming into the year. Probably won’t be with us this year which is disappointing, even though there’s no way he fits into the MLB plan at this point.
Agree with much of what has been said
Roberts was certainly not “unsung”., and ESPECIALLY here at the Pit.
CY on the other hand was lambasted long and hard for his second half slump that lasted 2 months (july and august) before a good September rescued his season. But overall his season was a good one, thanks to his defense, and decent enough hitting in the first half of the season and in September.
Also, whether it’s repeatable skill or not, (Not)….CY was a clutch God last year. His High leverage numbers were off the charts. He had so many huge hits, and even when he was slumping, his hits seemed to be big ones.
Check out his numbers in different leverage situations:
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Split G PA AB H HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
High Lvrge 88 132 105 33 7 30 24 24 .314 .432 .629 1.060
Medium Lvrge 144 269 244 57 7 22 23 57 .234 .301 .402 .703
Low Lvrge 122 257 218 44 6 18 33 58 .202 .313 .339 .652
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Split G PA AB HR RBI BA OBP SLG OPS
Late Close 82 113 97 6 16 .258 .363 .526 .889
Tie Game 104 171 148 9 28 .264 .357 .541 .897
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Pretty easy to see where CY was at his best. He may not be able to repeat that…….but in terms of value provided in 2011 it mattered a ton to the D Backs.
For this reason…..unsung hero….because he really did have a lot of heroic moments that people forgot about because of his July/August slump
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by shoewizard on Dec 29, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even we can't edit comments, but here's a tidied-up version!
Check out his numbers in different leverage situations:
Split G PA AB H HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS High Lvrge 88 132 105 33 7 30 24 24 .314 .432 .629 1.060 Medium Lvrge 144 269 244 57 7 22 23 57 .234 .301 .402 .703 Low Lvrge 122 257 218 44 6 18 33 58 .202 .313 .339 .652 Split G PA AB HR RBI BA OBP SLG OPS Late Close 82 113 97 6 16 .258 .363 .526 .889 Tie Game 104 171 148 9 28 .264 .357 .541 .897
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by Jim McLennan on Dec 29, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I personally don't believe in "clutch hitting"
But those are some serious numbers!
by Craig from Az on Dec 30, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I do believe in clutch hitting
and those are still interesting numbers. CY definitely turns it on offensively when it’s crunch time.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
If this is true
shame on CY for not turning it on when it’s not crunch time.
by Craig from Az on Dec 30, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Well......he did in 2011
High Leverage Career
I Year G PA AB HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2006 9 14 13 0 4 1 4 .231 .286 .385 .670
2007 67 99 91 5 22 5 28 .220 .273 .451 .723
2008 84 121 106 1 26 9 27 .236 .291 .368 .659
2009 62 95 80 1 11 12 27 .188 .290 .325 .615
2010 89 134 118 6 35 11 29 .237 .301 .432 .733
2011 88 132 105 7 30 24 24 .314 .432 .629 1.060
Career Total 399 595 513 20 128 62 139 .242 .321 .444 .766
Late And Close Career
I Year G PA AB HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2006 9 13 12 0 0 1 2 .167 .231 .250 .481
2007 67 83 76 3 6 5 20 .184 .253 .342 .595
2008 70 93 79 1 13 8 20 .228 .292 .354 .647
2009 64 83 69 0 7 10 24 .145 .259 .203 .462
2010 72 102 92 3 12 8 23 .207 .267 .337 .604
2011 82 113 97 6 16 16 30 .258 .363 .526 .889
Career Total 364 487 425 13 54 48 119 .207 .290 .360 .650
Like I said, “clutch” not very repeatable or predictable , but definitely very valuable in the context of the season within which it occurs. When talking about who was a hero in 2011, well….look at he guys that were heros in the big moment. But don’t read too much into it and determine this guy or that is “clutch”, as the vast majority of the time the performance will fluctuate greatly in clutch situations. The longer the career, the more often the numbers just fall in line with overall career numbers.
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For what it's worth (not much IMO),
Young has absolutely raked in his 12 postseason games, to the tune of a batting line of .326/.453/.721. I think this is where the “CY is clutch” folks are coming from. Of course, that’s in 53 PAs scattered across seasons that are four years apart, but sometimes that’s all it takes for a player to get a reputation.
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by Zavada's Moustache on Dec 30, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely a case could be made for CY
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 29, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
is anyone interested...
in sending skaggs and bauer and ptbnl for say longoria and a prospect dude has super friendly contract would help bolster the offense…
by cahill123anderson on Dec 29, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Chris Young for me
For all the flak we give him for his horrifyingly predictable ways at the plate, he was still an average at worst hitting center fielder and managed to be a pretty solid contributor overall because of his gold glove caliber defense and good base running.
Also, Joe Saunders is second to last. I did not expect that at all.
by CaptainCanuck on Dec 29, 2011 11:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes
He’s a defensive wizard! He’s extremely valuable to this team.
I still think he has a another echelon of offensive ability that he has not tapped into. He’s going into his prime years 28-30.
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I am voting for Owings
RyRo is simply not unsung. No way.
For me it is between Saunders and Owings. And since I had zero expectations of Owings before the season started, I am picking him. He really helped keep the team in a lot of games. In 2010 the bullpen would have put those games out of reach. Owings did a great job in long relief. Plus, he was a good sport pitching in wherever the team needed him. His starts were better than what I could have hoped for.
Plus, the dude was 8-0! Come on! Hee hee.
Micah's last win
was because of Ryan Roberts. So Ryan Roberts is responsible for Micah being the unsung hero. Which means Ryan Roberts is actually the unsung hero.
by CaptainCanuck on Dec 30, 2011 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Except
Roberts is always sung, so he can’t be unsung.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Logic
is optional
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 30, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Evidently
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't it one of the Signs of the Apocalypse
when logic becomes optional?
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
If that's true
the Apocalypse started long ago ;-)
by Craig from Az on Dec 30, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Approx.
since the dawn of humanity
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 30, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Most Unsung Organizational Asset: Charles Nagy
Most Underappreciated Player (Locally): CY
Most Underappreciated Player (Nationally): I’d still say Roberts. A week prior to the ASG, he led all NL third basemen in fWar/bWar – and couldnt muster any A/S support. Saunders and Owings were relatively unsung, but even combined they didnt provide Roberts’ value. And I think CY is pretty respected and ‘known’ nationally.
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Then the sabers
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
And probably never will
Numbers are good for lots of things, but not everything.
by Craig from Az on Dec 30, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think one can compare
win-loss percentages, pre-body sacrificing event/post-body sacrificing event. So it probably can be quantified, but someone will protest, “How do we not know that it was a butterfly flapping it’s wings in front of a batter the following day that was the true precipitating event?”
As Rosanne Rosanadana used to say, “Its always something…”
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Probably a good thing
Since that would make a really obnoxious acronym.
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by Zavada's Moustache on Dec 30, 2011 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
MMDPPHBACOTLTMAOATPTLAMOTPOATM
Rolls right off the tongue
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by Clefo on Dec 30, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
MMDPPHBACOTLTMAOATPRLAMOTPOATM
Above replacement.
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by Zavada's Moustache on Dec 30, 2011 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
MMDPPHBACOTLTMAOATPRLAMOTPOATM
Per 9 innings
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by Clefo on Dec 30, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
all has been rec’d
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 30, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
This rec
goes to both of you.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Of these choices, I went with Micah
But I still say Alberto Castillo was the unsung hero of the year. Serviceable performer, dependable in clutch situations, came out of nowhere with a big injury history, and people still aren’t recognizing that he contributed. That’s an unsung hero to me.
In other news
Melvin Mora retired this week.
by Augdogs on Dec 30, 2011 1:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Roberts was certainly unsung
coming out of ST. He didn’t even have a job, nobody was talking about him, he was lucky to be on the roster, he only got his chance when Blum went down. Once he started performing then everyone started singing about him. So the question is, at what point is the question asking for the unsung to have taken place? At the beginning of the season? At the end? In the middle? because once all of these guys started performing we were singing about them. I feel it should be coming into the season, who was unsung and vastly exceeded expectations. Dread Pirate gets my vote hands down.
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by sonic barracuda on Dec 30, 2011 3:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
But he was sung like a Puccini opera
during the season. Unsung heroes are the ones nobody notices while they are doing very crucial things.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
When i think Unsung
I think of the player who makes those around him look good. But said player doesnt get the dredit they deserve for that fact. CY made Parra and J-Up look better in the OF. he makes the whole OF look better
Freeze it..and make a popsicle
Good point.
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by NASCARbernet on Dec 30, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
That is an interesting way of thinking about it
and definitely worthy of consideration
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by imstillhungry95 on Dec 30, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Especially dealing with Parra's reluctance to
back off when Young calls him off.
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