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Jason Kubel: On Chase Field And Defense

NEW YORK - OCTOBER 09:  Jason Kubel #16 of the Minnesota Twins looks on during batting practice against the New York Yankees during Game Three of the ALDS part of the 2010 MLB Playoffs at Yankee Stadium on October 9, 2010 in the Bronx borough of New York City.  (Photo by Chris McGrath/Getty Images)

It's no secret that a lot of people didn't like Target Field too much, to hit there. I feel here, that I can use the whole field and still put up the power numbers I want to put up, instead of having to try and pull the ball in the air to get it out.
-- Jason Kubel

This afternoon, Jason Kubel spoke to the media about his new deal with the Diamondbacks. Topics discussed included how the deal went down, why he picked Arizona and what he can bring to the table, both with his bat and the glove. A full transcript is after the jump. [Thanks to Seth for the audio]

Star-divide

It seemed like this came about out of nowhere? Was it like that for you?
Jason Kubel:
Yeah, it was. Going back to June, when we came to town to play and my agent was out there too, I was telling him, "This is a pretty nice place, I like the way the ball comes off my bat here." Obviously, it's a very talented young team, and I told him then, this would be a good place to be. I love Arizona, and so we talked about that. And as we moved forward at the end of the season, into free-agency, he had some conversations with Kevin [Towers], but nothing came out of it. Then, about three days before we heard back from Kevin, he told me 'The Diamondbacks are out of it," and we were like, "Ok, we'll just keep going on with everything else." We had some stuff brewing up, then we heard back from Kevin, and put a couple of things on hold. After that, it happened real quick, and I'm just thrilled.

Did you talk to Kevin?
JK: Yes, I talked to him on Saturday. It went great. He said from all the reports, I would fit in very nicely here. Like I said, it's a young, talented team, and I've been around that for quite a while with what we've got in Minnesota, so I'm really looking forward to it. I think, I hope, I fit in really well with the guys.

It almost sounds as if this was your first choice.
JK:
You know, I live in LA, so I grew up a Dodgers fan. That was probably my #1 choice, been in discussions with them quite a bit, but this was a very, very close second. I like how close it is to home, and don't have to worry about going back east any more, which is really a pain. This will be a perfect situation here, can live here all year round, both spring and in-season, and like I said, I like the way the ball comes off my bat here. The decision was very easy: we were on board as soon as we called back.

Was there any talk with the Twins, or was it pretty apparent that going back to Minnesota was not going to be an option?
JK:
No, we kept in contact, they were there right up until the end. I think, for me and my family, this is a really good fit for us, and I couldn't be happier with how things turned out.

How hard will it be to leave Minnesota after being there so long?
JK:
It'll be tough. Guys that, baseball career-wise, I grew up with. It's really tough to move on, but it's part of the game and the business. You move on and I'm sure I'll build some pretty good relationships with the new guys too.

Are you looking forward to being in the National League, where there's no DH?
JK:
I am. Actually, all the teams I've talked to all year have been strictly outfield. I'm not a big fan of the DH. I feel more in the game in the outfield, and that's what I want to do and prove I can do it. I'm ready for it. I take a lot of pride in my defense, and I'm more than happy to have a chance to just be an outfielder.

How do you think your defense translated to a big park like this?
JK:
Obviously, I'm not the fastest guy in the world. But like I said, I take a lot of pride in my defense. I work pretty hard at it. I try to make the best first step, try to get the best route. I think I do a pretty good job at that. I'll make the plays that should be made and every now and then I get a little athletic out there and make some other ones. I take a lot of pride doing it right and making all the plays.

Did Towers indicate what your role might be?
JK:
Yeah, he was saying we want to get your bat in the line-up, so expect to be playing quite a bit... I'm just grateful to get this opportunity, and everything feels like normal again [with his foot], so I'm pretty excited about that. Things weren't going so well, not only for myself, but the team was struggling, so I thought, if I can get in here, try to help out and I pushed myself to go when I wasn't ready. Had a couple of setbacks here and there, but I got the rest finally; all the pain's gone, so I'm happy about that.

Do you have any relationships with anyone on the Diamondbacks team?
JK:
I played with Craig Breslow for a couple of years in Minnesota, and absolutely Aaron Hill, I've played against him forever. We came up through the minors together. But I got a chance, like I said, last year we played three games here. It was good for them, not good for us, but it looks like a good, young fun group and I'm looking forward to it.

Why do you think you like hitting in this ball-park?
JK:
It's no secret that a lot of people didn't like Target Field too much, to hit there. I feel here, that I can use the whole field and still put up the power numbers I want to put up, instead of having to try and pull the ball in the air to get it out. I did run into trouble trying to do that stuff more often and it really showed in the numbers and everything. I think I can use the whole field here, and not worry about hitting a ball that I thought I hit pretty well to center or left-center and it just being an out. I'm looking forward to that.

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Well, at least Kubs went from my one favorite team to the other.

by DonBorvio on Dec 20, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

wellllll

on the bright side at least we’re not shelling out $15 million for a jackass. Seems like a quality guy.

I hate "Red Sox Nation"

by superwong18 on Dec 20, 2011 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

Platooning the outfield

It’ll be sad to see Parra get less playing time; I do expect some teams to see if he’s available for a trade, but I think he can still be a valuable piece in our roster. I do wonder, however, if Kubel’s defense starts to hurt us, could we see Upton move to Left and Kubel playing in Right?

by VouxCroux on Dec 20, 2011 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

why?

usually your worst outfield defender is in left field

by since_98 on Dec 20, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously not going to matter

either way if we stick him in left or right, the ball will still find him. Kubel is just a plain bad defender.

I hate "Red Sox Nation"

by superwong18 on Dec 20, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i was under the impression

that LF has fewer chances than RF

but i could be wrong

by blue bulldog on Dec 21, 2011 4:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I always thought the opposite was true,

but now I need to confirm that, if someone doesn’t beat me to it.
Stereotypes: Fast guy with lousy arm in left, slow guy with good arm in right?

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 21, 2011 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

yeahh pretty much

Idk about slow guy though in right but definitely good arm.

I hate "Red Sox Nation"

by superwong18 on Dec 21, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Found

this

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 21, 2011 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Forget that

chart for Sean Burroughs, link to program dead.

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 21, 2011 7:41 AM EST up reply actions  

idk

could be. But I don’t think sticking him in either place and limiting some of chances will negate his effect defensively very much. I wish it was still Little League and we could hide that one crappy player on the team in the outfield.

I hate "Red Sox Nation"

by superwong18 on Dec 21, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about chances

I’d always heard that the “better” defender (or, at least, the better arm) being in RF was based on the ability to throw from right to 3rd base. The LF doesn’t have an equivalent distance to throw, since you’re not going to see a guy gunned down at 1B on a ball hit to the OF. Not sure I agree with this being an issue, though, since the throw to 3B from RF is so rare as to be inconsequential.

by azshadowwalker on Dec 21, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless you are watching Frenchy

And of course I can’t find the video of him making the play in right and throwing to 1B to catch a slow runner. Thanks for that mlb.com

by SongBird on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Like Carl Furillo

a long time ago. Except Furillo could hit.

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 22, 2011 5:40 AM EST up reply actions  

The throw from right to 3rd is a lot more common

and important than one from left to 1st. If the arm in right is weak, first to third on a single can be an easy trip.

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 22, 2011 5:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It might be a stretch

but could the Dbacks possibly try a platoon with Goldschmidt and Kubel at 1b? That would allow Gibson to make different lineups with RH and LH middle of the lineup type bats. Plus Kubel at first means more Parra in left which everyone can agree is a good thing. However, from the sound of the reports on his defense he most likely won’t adapt to a new position very well. Considering he has yet to play the outfield adequately, a position he has played his entire career, and the fact he has never played 1b in his pro career, sounds like a long shot. I like Kubel’s bat but his defense worries me the more i think about it.

by Munchi on Dec 20, 2011 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

Kubel has never played first base in the majors

or in the minors. If KT’s plan was to use Kubel to backup Goldschmidt, it was about as well thought out as his typical position player acquisition.

by valuearb on Dec 20, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he'll see time at both spots

To get Parra time and to cover Goldschmidt against some right-handers.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 20, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope they give him a shot in the spring

As much as i like Overbay I’m not convinced his bat will hold up. His deal was earned for 6 weeks of decent play, the rest of the season was a disaster for him. Kubel would be a huge upgrade IMO. And i’m worried the organization is going to stump Parra’s growth. He really did earn the opportunity to be the starting left fielder, even with Gibson’s tough policies. Kubel in a platoon at first really tightens this team up offensively, and somewhat defensivly (if Kubel can be decent there) by keeping Parra in the field.

by Munchi on Dec 20, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Overbay's $1MM

Was because of everything that happened pre-2011 more than any stretch of 2011.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 21, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope not

I want to see Goldschmidt in the lineup as often as he can get in there as long as he’s healthy. He’s the real deal!

by DiamondbacksWIn on Dec 22, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

but his strikeout percentage, and tendency to wear sombreros has to be a worry.

Is it mid-February yet?

by NASCARbernet on Dec 22, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

That is in reference to baseball sombreros

not the fine traditional Mexican hat.

Is it mid-February yet?

by NASCARbernet on Dec 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel bad for Jason

He’s going to be an absolute disaster in left field, I don’t care how hard he’s worked on his defense he has 3,000 innings that show he’s terrible. I’m sure he’ll continue to work hard, try hard, but he’s just been horribly miscast in this role. As soon as he has a minor slump at the plate the fans will turn on him, and $15M won’t be enough if every day at work is misery.

by valuearb on Dec 20, 2011 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

This is not comforting

Have you been good this year? I hope so, because Gibby. Is. Watching.

by imstillhungry95 on Dec 20, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

As soon as he has a minor slump at the plate the fans will turn on him

Augie Ojeda lasted 324 games with a 69 OPS+ and was still loved by ‘the fans. As long as he’s not doing front-flips in left-field (though I’d probably pay at least once to see that!), Kubel should be ok…

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What would Mothra do?"

by Jim McLennan on Dec 20, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If Augie was an

8 million dollar man fan love may have been a wee bit less.

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 20, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh

You used Augie Ojeda and “wee” in the same sentence.

#imtired

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by Clefo on Dec 20, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

#imtired2

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 20, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as he's

not flipping off the fans in left field, he should be okay (that’s for Jake Plummer).

Is it mid-February yet?

by NASCARbernet on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally,

I found the front-flips endearing.

by ShucksBoWalter on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You might

be alone in that

Have you been good this year? I hope so, because Gibby. Is. Watching.

by imstillhungry95 on Dec 20, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

you basically saw flips

when eric byrnes threw home.

and we did pay for that. 30 million to be exact.

"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd

by blank_38 on Dec 20, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The only issue there...

is that Augie wasn’t really pushing aside a guy who a lot of the fans are pretty fond of. If, in fact, Parra is the odd man out here, I don’t think I’m going to be the only fan that’s bummed. (Although I would be very, very bummed.) The reaction just about everywhere I’ve looked has been strongly anti-. The reasons gives are specifically because people like Parra and don’t think he should lose his job to a guy who isn’t a significant upgrade. I think Kubel will walk a fine line here with the fans for those reasons. That said, I can’t really feel too badly for the guy. He signed the contract that his performance doesn’t really merit. In that way, he’s kind of like EB. Also, he knew the situation he was coming into. He needs to perform, or he’s getting what he paid for.

by azshadowwalker on Dec 21, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

.

…he’s just been horribly miscast in this role.

Nah. Horribly miscast means no realistic chance at competence, let alone modest success, in a role. A better example might be AJ Hinch as manager or Willie Bloomquist in LF. Neither really had a chance, but at least one GM eventually snapped out of his hallucination.

by Diamondhacks on Dec 21, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You understand the definition, but not the correct application

In the last 2 years the worst two defensive left fielders in baseball according to UZR are Raul Ibanez and Logan Morrison, they both clock in at a little over -14 runs per 150 games. In his career of 1,500 innings each in left and right field, Jason Kubel has clocked in at -16/150 games in Right Field, and -18/150 games in Left Field.

How miscast do you have to be made a full time left fielder when it will you are the worse corner defender in all of baseball, and it’s not even close?

According to FanGraphs Kubel’s bat has been worth about 8 runs/150 above average during his career, so when you pay $7.5M a year to a player who projects to be about 10 runs below average in left field, and has health/injury issues that mean he’s never played full time outfield ever, yes he’s miscast.

by valuearb on Dec 21, 2011 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

i’ve seen him a couple of times in Minn games

and both times i saw him came away reeeeeeeaally unimpressed

i’m actually worried that his defense might be worse than what the numbers have said

by blue bulldog on Dec 21, 2011 4:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Kubel's clearly a defensive liability,

but there’s zero evidence he stands alone as baseball’s worst corner glove, let alone by the wide margin you imply.

In the last 2 years the worst two defensive left fielders in baseball according to UZR are Raul Ibanez and Logan Morrison…

this is incorrect. If your apparent certitude on any player’s future is to be based on “fangraphs”, at least report what those geniuses who projected AZ as an “absolute disaster” on and off the field, actually published.

…they both clock in at a little over -14 runs per 150 games.

true, but misleading, in that readers might easily infer that -14/150 represents the worst corner UZRs over that period. They dont.

Since 2007 when Kubel became more or less a regular player, his corner UZR/150 is better than Luis Gonzalez (and several other regulars), and way better than clods like Hawpe and Dunn over that span. More recently, his UZR/150 compares favorably with cornermen Ibanez, Quentin, Spilborghs, Pie, Thames. And he grades out quite a bit better on Total Zone.

I think it would be fair to say he ranks among the worst defensive corner outfielders in the game. Just as it would be fair to say that he’s a pretty good hitter and that none of us really knows what his contribution will be.

by Diamondhacks on Dec 21, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

It also annoys me that UZR has become the bible to some people when there is plenty of debate about just how accurate of an indicator it really is when it comes to a player’s value defensively. People stop watching and start relying on fangraphs for truth.

by Fangdango on Dec 22, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No he doesn't

Not a single word of that is true.

by Fangdango on Dec 22, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I give Kubel kudos (how's that?) for honesty

In saying that LA was his #1 choice. The rest of the interview really contains no info (except maybe that his foot feels better – or at least he says it does)

by Craig from Az on Dec 20, 2011 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

Is this the end for Chris Young?

Dump his contract and move Parra to CF? Otherwise a Lefty/Lefty platoon at Left is kinda weird. Though I like the bat.

"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.

by Reynolds rapper on Dec 21, 2011 2:48 AM EST reply actions  

CY should have some trade value, but...

… this was a playoff team last year, and Parra/CY were big reasons why. Why gamble Parra can prove to be a competent CF (he hasn’t as yet)? We are already downgrading outfield defense a huge amount with Kubel, and Parra’s bat isn’t as good as CY’s, so unless KT already knows he can get a major haul for CY, trading him would almost certainly hurt the 2012 club’s prospects.

by valuearb on Dec 21, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

not sure what dump his contract means

but CY would have a ton of trade value

CF like him are a pretty rare commodity

by blue bulldog on Dec 21, 2011 4:48 AM EST up reply actions  

If Cowgill was not traded it could make sense,

but Parra in center is a far cry from win now.

"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan

by xmet on Dec 21, 2011 7:21 AM EST up reply actions  

There's a bit of dealing this offseason

that seem to be for the sake of making deals, rather than from a grand strategy. I hope I’m wrong on this, but so far I’m pretty unimpressed with the offseason moves.

Is it mid-February yet?

by NASCARbernet on Dec 21, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

WIth the exception of

Kubel (and of course Towers desire to sign every old, washed up IFer in sight), I think this offseason has been mostly understandable. I wasn’t in love with the Parker trade, but I understand it and admit that it could be for the best (time will tell). Towers made the bullpen even better and signed Aaron Hill. I am concerned that Blanco is too old to give Miggy enough time off, but I understand that signing as well.

My biggest concern is the IF – all four of our starting IFers could bomb next year, and I would have preferred to spend the Kubel, Bloomquist, and possibly Hill money to sign a solid middle IFer. Not that I know of any that were truly available (I don’t want Reyes for 6 years and I don’t think we could have gotten Rollins away from Phillie).

by Craig from Az on Dec 21, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

In hindsight

I don’t mind the Johnny Mac signing so much now that we have Cahill. But I think outbidding Phillie for Rollins probably would have been better than resigning Hill and getting Kubel. If that happened, than having Bloomy wouldn’t be terrible to give guys up the middle or in the OF a day off, but then again that should be Blum’s job, but then again it’s Geoff Blum.

I hate "Red Sox Nation"

by superwong18 on Dec 21, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

you know my take on Reyes

would have liked to pry Rollins away from Philly

if anything, wouldn’t have minded getting Alex Gonzalez either

by blue bulldog on Dec 21, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

gonzalez and drew

up the middle vs. hill and drew? just wondering

I hate "Red Sox Nation"

by superwong18 on Dec 21, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't really care

if we kept signing HIll

just wanted someone who we could rely on playing a backup SS if Drew is unhealthy….one with more upside than McDonald or Bloomquist

by blue bulldog on Dec 21, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, the IF

I must say, the IF situation scares me. We have no freaking idea what to expect from any of those guys. What if Goldy really can’t hack it in the majors? What is Hill is really 2010 Hill? What if Roberts regresses? What if Drew isn’t healthy? This is very scary.

If we were so concerned about offense as to replace Parra, where was this concern when we signed both MacDonald AND Bloomquist??

by SongBird on Dec 22, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I didn’t have a huge problem with the Cahill/Parker trade. I didn’t mind John MacDonald or Willie Bloomquist, but signing both was ridiculous. Aaron Hill? I was okay with that, but they could have gone for a bigger IF bat, if that was needed. It’s basically the combination of the deals that makes no freaking sense to me. It does appear to be lacking in a “grand strategy,” as you so eloquently put it.

by azshadowwalker on Dec 21, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean in the traditional way, trading.

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by Reynolds rapper on Dec 22, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

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