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Diamondbacks Sign IF Willie Bloomquist to Two-Year Deal

It seems that the small spat between Scott Boras and the D-backs front office has been smoothed over, as, according to both MLB Network/NESN's Peter Gammons and CBS Sports' Scott Miller, Arizona has re-signed infielder Willie Bloomquist to a two-year deal worth a total of $3.8MM.  Bloomquist's choice to opt out of his half of a mutual option worth $1.1MM was a brilliant one in the end, as he earned himself another $2.7MM in doing so.  In the end, it seemed that the D-backs beat out the Giants for Bloomquist's services, as SI's Jon Heyman tweeted that both teams had offers out to Bloomquist as recently as last night.

Star-divide

Back in the latter parts of free agency last year, Bloomquist agreed to a one-year, $750,000 contract for 2011 with a mutual option for 2012 worth $1.1MM (with a $150,000 buyout that never came into play), seeming to fill the final slot on the D-backs roster for 2011.  Bloomquist was a personal favorite of manager Kirk Gibson for what Jeff Sullivan beautifully described (a worthwhile read) as "The hustle. So much hustle."  Early in the year, Bloomquist platooned with left fielder Gerardo Parra, getting off to a torrid April before cooling down for the rest of the season.  Then, Stephen Drew's gruesome injury struck and the D-backs plugged Bloomquist into their everyday shortstop role, as well as the leadoff spot in the lineup, positions he held for the rest of the regular season and into the playoffs.  Bloomquist hit .266/.317/.340 for Arizona in 2011, appearing in 97 games and, rather infamously, stealing 20 bases in 30 attempts.

Bloomquist's return is peculiar given the presence of infielders Ryan Roberts, Geoff Blum, and John McDonald already on the roster, as well as the hopeful return of injured shortstop Stephen Drew.  There are quite a few ways to read into this move: 1) Drew's recovery status could be more tenuous than anybody is letting on, 2) the organization doesn't think it can rely on Blum to stay healthy and man third base for a full season, 3) the organization is worried about Roberts regressing, 4) the organization views some combination of Bloomquist, Roberts, Blum, and McDonald capable of manning two positions on the infield on any given day, or 5) the organization views Bloomquist as a possible fourth oufielder option.  As with last year's roster, we'll simply have to wait until the regular season begins to figure out what role Bloomquist will have with the D-backs.

Another point worth mentioning is that GM Kevin Towers recently opined that the club might not have room for both Bloomquist and Aaron Hill on the roster should Hill return.  It's quite possible that the signing of Bloomquist is an indication that the club's offer to Hill - which reportedly had a deadline - is no longer on the table and the team is looking for other ways to fill that role.  What that means for the D-backs 2012 infield alignment - and, of course, for Hill - will be worth following in the coming weeks.

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Could also mean

That Drew is not progressing like they expected.

Freeze it..and make a popsicle

by Baja F1 on Nov 9, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

That is possibility

#1. :-P

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I kind of feel

 like if the Giants are the other team looking to sign a bat, you should probably walk away.

Tomorrow is another day.

by soco on Nov 9, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

Also

Like we saw last year with KT, if someone is not performing or needed, he is not scared to just cut the dead weight and eat the payroll. This could be a pure insurance move and maybe evena block of the Giants.

Freeze it..and make a popsicle

by Baja F1 on Nov 9, 2011 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

$6.8 million

Combined between Bloomquist and McDonald. Too much???

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by dbacks25 on Nov 9, 2011 1:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Or

too little?

Tomorrow is another day.

by soco on Nov 9, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Waaaaayyyy too much

in my opinion

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by Torpedosneak on Nov 9, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

$3.4 per year

Give me a combined 2 WAR out of those guys, and I’ll take it all day.

by venomfan on Nov 9, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Thing is

Expecting that much WAR from aging bench players is a bit of a stretch.

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Nov 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

In fact

In a combined 23 seasons between the two they total 4.6 rWAR. I don’t think a breakout year is on the horizon.

They have never combined for 2 WAR in a single season.

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by Marc Fournier on Nov 9, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't like this one bit.

I can’t think of any way this makes sense other than they’re having to shift Drew to 3B from his injury and sliding Roberts to 2B to compensate. We ALREADY have 5 infielders who play 2B/3B/SS, and it’s hard to assume we haven’t gotten our starting 2B/3B yet. There’s just no room left.

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

Like most things

There’s probably a lot more to the story that we aren’t going to hear about in the press. Perhaps Willie had more of an impact on Upton last season than we realize and the FO wants it to continue. Maybe Drew or McDonald is trade bait.

Personally, I’m glad to see Willie back. He’s not an all star but I still like the guy.

by venomfan on Nov 9, 2011 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Really surprised

That’s now Bloomquist, McDonald, Blum and Blanco signed to the bench. There would seem to be only one spot left, and we still need a back-up 1B and OF – that’s one who can play CF, not Willie B.

Conclusion has to be that either Drew or Hill won’t be playing for us in 2012.

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by Jim McLennan on Nov 9, 2011 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Next question

What do you trade him for, and to whom?

by venomfan on Nov 9, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would give

anything for him? He’s coming off an injury that could end his career at shotstop. I mean there won’t be a market for him.

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by imstillhungry95 on Nov 9, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

There'll still be a market for him

They just won’t be willing to give up as much to get him.

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by Marc Fournier on Nov 9, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

you're right

let me rephrase. There won’t be a market that would be a huge benefit to us IMO

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by imstillhungry95 on Nov 9, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He's one of my favorite athletes of all-time

I’d hate to see him go.

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by Skii on Nov 9, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Blum plays 1B

And will someone explain what he did wrong last season, other than being hurt? I don’t understand the Blum hate.

by venomfan on Nov 9, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Over 13 seasons, Blum has 42 starts at 1B

20 in the past five years. And I think you’ll find we have a 1B. Paul something or other…

And in those 13 years, he has a total of 0.1 bWAR. fWAR is a little kinder, but it’s a total of 1 fWAR over the past three seasons. As noted, he’s just not very good.

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by Jim McLennan on Nov 9, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not so much last season

but his whole career. He hasn’t been that good. That said, I don’t hate him. I actually kinda like him. No real reason; just do

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by imstillhungry95 on Nov 9, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

To still even be playing baseball at 38 years old is something

Or even beyond…Henry Blanco, playing at 40, Randy Johnson pitched into his mid-40’s…I mean there’s something to be said for guys who can still play later in life. As for Blum, he’s a good clubhouse presence as well…but I am interested to see if he will play healthy this year. I think he can do it.

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by Rockkstarr12 on Nov 9, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

CY can play 155-160 games in CF

Parra can play CF while Roberts is in LF.

by txzona on Nov 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

our last spot

will go to Collin Cowgill

or at least it should. though to be fair, “should” and “will happen” are very different concepts for KT

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

My money's on Blum.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 3:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh KT

what have you done? I don’t get myself. As Jim said, we have one bench spot left and two positions to niether of which can be filled by Bloomquist

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by imstillhungry95 on Nov 9, 2011 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Dan can't Front Page Fanposts

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by Jim McLennan on Nov 9, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

it's because

Dan hates you and wants to steal your thunder

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

What Jim said

And what I said in a comment in your fanpost. :)

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I mist have missed that, Dan

I’m sorry…I misread things…been one of those mornings where the eyes are being strange, even with glasses on

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by Rockkstarr12 on Nov 9, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Grumble grumble...

I don’t like this move. This team is already set when it comes to reserve and/or utility guys. Why sign McDonald if they were angling for Bloomquist the whole time?

If Drew is still to banged up to play next season, this move is tolerable. But, since I don’t have a crystal ball, I’ll have to keep disliking it for now.

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 2:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

this is not tolerable

if Drew is banged up to play next season, we should have gone after someone who can be an everyday SS. not two backups.

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Clint Barmes would have been a good signing.

But who else is out there to go after? Jose Reyes?

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would have loved to have Clint Barmes here

He may possibly be headed back to Colorado too…he and Jamey Carroll I know are two possibilities Colorado’s looking at

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by Rockkstarr12 on Nov 9, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't rule out him resigning with Houston.

But he should have plenty of options. But yeah, he would be a good fit over here. Steady defender, decent pop. Good veteran presence.

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

... and a lot more expensive.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bloomquist and McDonald

Combined, probably.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Reyes, or Rollins

and if you can’t get those two, then go out and trade for someone

break the bank to trade for someone, i don’t care

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

If Drew will not be back at that position, we need a good replacement, not just whatever happens to be laying around. To think Willie and Boras actually came out ahead on this one completely baffles me. I haven’t criticized KT’s love of the aging ballplayer so far, but this one just pushes it too far. Not one, but two aging shortstops? Wow. I really thought that the McDonald signing meant they were calling Willie’s bluff.

As for the comment higher in the thread about being willing to cut non-producers loose, that’s all well and good. The problem is that you have to keep paying them whether you cut them loose or not. To do that over and over just defies logic, IMO, especially when Arizona is always pleading poverty and small-market-itis.

by azshadowwalker on Nov 9, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much this.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe signing McDonald first was KTs way of escaping a

5 year 10M deal for the much younger Willie B.

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by xmet on Nov 9, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

"Slump? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hitting." Yogi Berra

by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

What is this

I don’t even

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

+6.8 million

One for every dollar tied up in both Bloomquist and McDonald

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by imstillhungry95 on Nov 9, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Then again

If we assume Blum becomes the defacto backup at first (though I’m sure KT is just jonesing to bring Wally Joyner out of retirement), then there’s probably a roster spot left for an Aaron Hill or someone else.

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That of course raises the question....

…Who the sam hill would want Geoff Blum as a backup first baseman?

I’M JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE SOME HOPE PEOPLE

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't be afraid

We still haven’t heard how much KT plans on offering Overbay and Nady.

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Nov 9, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

For what?

A 26 year old reliever in Double A? I’m afraid we’re stuck with him.

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It's not like the contract is a huge burden.

If the return is crap, may as well keep him and let him do what they’re paying him to do, I guess.

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Two-year deals!

Everyone gather ‘round, it’s a two-year deal giveaway! Woooooo!

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by Marc Fournier on Nov 9, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly.

I don’t hate the signings nearly as much as I hate the two-year deals for players well past their prime (especially when their primes were … mediocre at best).

by Azreous on Nov 9, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

+1*

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Aw

Damn.

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by kishi on Nov 9, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah!

You old!

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by Marc Fournier on Nov 9, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

But

Not old enough to get a two-year contract, unfortunately.

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by kishi on Nov 9, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Awww, crap.

I completely botched that joke…

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by Marc Fournier on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Something unexpected is going to happen

It has to. Something has to give somewhere in the infield. Somebody’s getting traded, released, or getting a starting job they don’t deserve.

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

ye of so much hope

Stephen Drew for Jeff Francouer?

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

OH GOD WHY

WHY EVEN PUT THAT IMAGE IN MY HEAD. I CAN’T UNTHINK IT NOW.

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh no! I'll help!

Stephen Drew for Mo Vaughn!

OH GOD IT’S WORSE

by Azreous on Nov 9, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

to be fair, as much as i like to make fun of Francouer, i could imagine KT trading Drew away for much worse

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Stephen Drew for Brandon Wood and Donald Veal.

I would cry blood tears

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 4:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The last option

Seems to be a growing possibility.

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 9, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

WHY

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by blank_38 on Nov 9, 2011 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

My best 100% stab-in-the-dark guess

Is that this means Blum is gone. In the time Blum spent last year on extended vacation (rehab) at SRF, Bloomquist established himself as a clubhouse mainstay and personal Gibby favorite. McDonald also must have made an impression, probably by being sexy-good at shortstop. Both Bloomquist and Blum are more valuable to this club than Blum.

Blum is toast, so Roberts moves to 2B, with Drew at short, McDonald as backup at SS and 2B, and Bloomquist as backup at 2B, 3B, and as an emergency OF. We go get an everyday 3B and LHH backup 1B, Cowgill as 4th OF. Not a bad roster.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 3:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Assuming that scenario is true

If we don’t re-sign Hill and move Roberts to 2B, what are the FA options at 3B?

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Alternatively

Who out there is worth trading for that won’t break the prospect bank?

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Wilson Betemit 3B 30
Casey Blake 3B 38
Eric Chavez 3B 33
Alex Cora 3B 36
Greg Dobbs 3B 33
Aramis Ramirez 3B 33
Omar Vizquel 3B 44

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by Jim McLennan on Nov 9, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really...

Ramirez is a quality regular if you can tolerate crappy defense and think the bat will hold up. Massive chance to be a complete bust? You bet’cha. But if he isn’t a massive bust, he’ll likely be a really really good value. Bit of a lottery ticket.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

But he’s probably going to cost way more than he should. He’s the only one on that list that has been worth much of anything the last few years and a lot of teams have a need at 3B.

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade market, ahoy!

David Wright could spice things up, as could, perhaps, Mark Reynolds if Duquette decides to blow up that miserable Orioles roster.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I have much more faith in the trade market

Especially if there’s any chance Chase Headley could get moved.

Jump. On. That.

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Wright

I have really cooled on Wright lately. Basically, I think the Mets’ asking price will be too high. They can trade low on him this off-season for one year of control..or they can trade him next off season for one year of control; he has the club option that is canceled by trade. Why would they just burn a relatively free year of Wright while building his value back up?

Too bad, I would have liked to see his bat in AZ for a year.

by Counsellmember on Nov 9, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

100% agree

Betemit seems likely to be much less costly overall, and is just as good with a suitable platoon caddy.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Mets have been playing up their offers

in the media. if that’s actually true, then Wright isn’t worth it. if we can give up only one Tier Two prospect then we should trade for Wright imo.

i still think if pressured, the Mets would fold and trade Wright for a Tier Two prospect (basically, Corbin, Pollock, Eaton level prospect for me). it’s not like the Mets are in a great financial position.

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If they do that, then let's move.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Casey Blake is OLD

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by Rockkstarr12 on Nov 9, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I cannot believe he is 38. Methusela.

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Who...Blum or Blake? I believe they're both 38

Visquel is in his 40’s

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by Rockkstarr12 on Nov 9, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Blake, I meant.

Blum looks like he’s 50. So I’m surprised he’s only 38.

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by Stupendous Man on Nov 9, 2011 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This is a little strange

Upthread you are convincing everyone that old players have value and selling everyone on Blum, and then here you are exclaiming Blake is too Old.

So which is it ? At least Blake was…you know….good at some point in his career. Blum, not so much.

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by shoewizard on Nov 11, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

Considering KT’s fondness for reclamation projects: Chavez it is!

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Dan...

… we can only pray you’re right. But even if that is the case, KT’s management is indefensible. He did this last year and he’s doing it again this year, jumping on the scrubs and signing them to contracts before addressing the significant needs of the team. He’s like a kid who grew up in poverty who keeps going out to McDonalds when he signs that fat rookie contract… only he orders more than he could possibly eat. Get the heck out of McDonalds, KT, and get your butt into a steakhouse.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You act like he had a track record with us

Of doing this year-in and year-out and it failing year-in and year-out. He’s signed one super-old veteran to a multi-year deal and had it flop miserably! It’s just Blum! If he truly believed in the theory that went behind the Blum signing – which he clearly does – why would he abandon that theory after it went awry once?

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He may have only had one year here...

….but his years at the helm in San Diego confirm his tendencies. And note my criticism here — it’s not that he’s handing out multiple year contracts (although that’s a problem, I don’t necessarily see it as a pattern), it’s that he continue to sign crappy players first. He’s already blown a few million of the team’s payroll on three scrubs. Not a big deal if they were to fill in the cracks of the roster later. But it is a big deal if a) he signs a whole bunch of scrubs and the couple million here, couple million there adds up and prevents us payroll-wise from going after a difference-making bat; b) he creates a log-jam and either can’t sign an impact player b/c of the log-jam, or signs an impact player and then has to cut a previously signed scrub and waste that money.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

On one hand, that's a solid point

But OTOH, Arizona already has its stars in place. Upton is the biggie, with CY and Montero not far behind. Same with the pitching side of things: Kennedy & Hudson are already in place rotation-wise, so he went after cheaper options last year. Additionally, when the bullpen needed a big anchor, he went out and got Putz – his second signing of last off-season – to be that anchor.

A small-market club like AZ isn’t likely to wind up getting another star.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You're making my point for me.

There are hardly any holes on this club. Really just one: 2B/SS/3B based on where you put Roberts and Drew. So go out and spend your money on a difference maker there. Look at the Cards and the Rangers… we have a fine line up, but we can’t possibly match up with them.

Re: Putz — fair enough. My point wasn’t to attack his strategy last year. I think that while he made mistakes, the situation last year fit the spaghetti-against-the-wall model with all of the gaping holes… but he has to change given the dynamics of this team.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My point was that we have our stars in place

And I think the FO believes that a team shouldn’t be built with too many big-dollar stars. Get your stars internally or make a big splash every so often if you don’t have one coming up, and surround them with role players.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

we really don't though

honestly, we can throw hits lineup/starting rotation out there next year, and i wouldn’t be surprised at all if we didn’t make the playoffs

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Weren't you one of the folks

saying that we could increase our payroll this year? (And hasn’t that been what KT has said as well?)

If we have a larger payroll, what are we going to spend that money on? Please don’t tell me it’s a bunch of Blancos and Bloomquists.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The draft?

I dunno, if the club doesn’t think there’s a star player worth paying, why force a star peg (see what I did there?!) into a square hole?

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You know you liked it.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 10, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m glad the team shelled out during the draft, but they still should have a good bit to spend, and a window of opportunity in front of them. And I do believe there are players worth paying for.

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by njjohn on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i always believe
in spending more of everyone else’s money

by Gildo on Nov 11, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

KT is the equivalent of the dude at the buffet

who crams his plate with rolls and salad and then doesn’t have space for the prime rib.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 9, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by xmet on Nov 9, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have that problem

I cram my plate with rolls and salad, and then just pile the prime rib up on top of it…

Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!

by imstillhungry95 on Nov 11, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Call me insane (I'm insane)

But I could totally see a Wilson Betemit/Casey Blake platoon kicking major butt. Both could serve the role of de facto backup 1B, too. Something like:

Casey Blake, 1 yr. $2MM base with up to $3MM in incentives for plate appearances (max incentives @ 300 PA).
Wilson Betemit, 2 yr., $10MM.

For anywhere between $7MM and $10MM in 2012, you cover 3B with two guys sporting platoon splits (Betemit’s are massive, Blake’s minor but non-zero) who can hopefully combine to give you 150 good games of 3B production and some late-inning bench thunder to boot.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Betemit might be able to be had for cheaper, too

Which would, of course, be all the better.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe we already have an in house solution to our 3b problems.

The legend. Sean Burroughs.

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by blank_38 on Nov 9, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll second that if they don't resign Hill.

Betemit is a sleeper to me. He could hit 20 HR at Chase and Roberts could slide over to 2B.

I think the main concern should be replacing the overpriced Saunders with somebody like Hiroki Kuroda or Roy Oswalt.

by txzona on Nov 9, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Kuroda doesn't want to go anywhere but LA or Japan

Oswalt… ehhh, I’m unimpressed with Oswalt. Seems like the name and reputation are valued more than the production will be, given his back issues.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm greatly unimpressed with Saunders for 8 million.

Oswalt is going to cost like what….10? Only another extra 2 for a guy with far more upside. He might even want to sign a one year deal to build up his value.

by txzona on Nov 9, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't want Oswalt at 10

Don’t want Saunders at 8, either, but the difference between the two is minimal to me.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The difference between Saunders and Oswalt is minimal?

That seems a bit tough to swallow. If Oswalt is healthy, which I guess is the sticking point here, it’s a non-comparison. I know he’s getting up there and he’s got the back thing, but it’s not like he’s injury prone. Until this year he hadn’t had less than 30 starts since 2003. Guess it all depends on whether you think he’s actually on the downhill or if last year was just the anomaly. He’s only 34, it’s not like he’s ancient yet.

I’m not saying we should sign him…I’d actually rather let the kids play it out. But if we’re gonna bite on keeping Saunders yet could have Oswalt for only $2MM more? Give me Roy.

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think there's much of a chance

That Oswalt is truly healthy for the entire year in 2012.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess

The phrase “back injury” doesn’t seem temporary to me.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He could give us 100 good innings at least

and then Skaggs and Corbin could give us another 100 innings. There’s also a chance his back holds up and he puts up 2010 numbers. That would be awesome.

Saunders give us 200+ innings… but are they good innings? I don’t think Saunders will be back anyways so 8 million is free to spend!

Back to Oswalt ….It’s a gamble I wish we would take.

by txzona on Nov 9, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You sure you get 100 good innings?

Seems like a peculiar guarantee.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine

But he’s not getting younger. Neither is his back. He’s a pretty significant injury risk.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd actually prefer Kuroda to be honest

They’re both moot points because I don’t think either will sign with us anyways.

by txzona on Nov 9, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd definitely prefer Kuroda too

Both are longshots, though.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

it sucks that Kuroda

only wants to play for LA or return home

i’m with you too, in that i don’t like Oswalt

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd prefer

none of the above. Why waste money on SP when we have a bevy of young arms for cheap?

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

if i had to choose between a SP

or three backup aging MI

i think the choice is obvious

by blue bulldog on Nov 10, 2011 4:55 AM EST up reply actions  

good point, there. But how about choosing a GOOD IF instead.

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by njjohn on Nov 10, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if he's not healthy the entire year

Say you get, let’s say 10 starts out of him. That’ll likely get you around 1 WAR, which is on the low side for his for his career rate of accumulating WAR. That’s still as much as you got out of Saundo all last year. You’re not getting $10MM in value out of it, but since the alternative (in this scenario) is you’re resigning Saunders anyway it sounds like that money is gonna be sunk one way or another.

Then you’ve ended up being forced to play the kids, too. Veteran leader + top minor league arms. Everyone wins! (maybe)

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well

That is until KT trades for Ted Lilly following the injury. Doh.

by SenSurround on Nov 9, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Saunders is underrated by fWAR

Because his ERA always outperforms his FIP. Saunders was worth more than one win above replacement last year. Replacement is something like a 5.00 ERA starter at Chase (Rodrigo Lopez was replacement-level with his 5 ERA in ’10, for example), Saunders was a 3.69 ERA starter last year. Over 200 innings, that 1.31 ERA difference expands to….

1.31 ER / 9 IP * 200 IP = 29.1 runs!!

Sure, park factors need to be considered (Saunders’ ERA+ is strangely low, so there’s a chance his schedule included a lot of friendly away starts), but all the park adjustments in the world couldn’t make him a one-win starter.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I drive the Casey Blake train

and even I have to say “That’s @#$%ed up!”

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by Reynolds rapper on Nov 9, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

dude

you have to realize something

1) you’re pretty smart. you can think and come up with stuff outside of the box.
2) KT isn’t that smart. he’s also not really paid to be unconventional, because being unconventional gets you fired.

it’s like you’re trying to design a complex financial instrument to trade, and KT hasn’t even learned how to buy and sell stocks yet.

to give you an idea at how “novel” this platooning thing is for KT/Gibby, see: “Dbacks trade for ROOGY and use him against lefties”

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

But, but, but...

Optimism……. :-/

Oh, Brad Ziegler. How strangely utilized you were indeed.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Dobbs so maybe you get a 30 HR 3B

between Dobbs and Roberts? Otherwise, this looks my list of potential dates on e-Harmony.

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by Reynolds rapper on Nov 9, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah....

Dobbs is super-awful.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think both of us are looking at this

as what would you rather have: all of your fingers broken or a kick to the crotch?

I vote Dobbs if I have to vote any of these. I only wanted Blake the past couple years on a rental.

But the real answer is to say “No thanks” and maybe get in the Cuddyer sweepstakes if you want at least a part time 3B. If not, look for a bench OF.

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by Reynolds rapper on Nov 9, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not a bad roster,

But Bloomquist and McDonald are very similar players: aging, glove-first slap hitters who play the middle infield. One of those players can come in handy, but two on the same roster feels superfluous to me. In this case, it leaves us without a true power bat on the bench (depending on the LHH backup 1B, of course), and our backup 3B options would be somewhat slim.

But I think your guess of what the roster will look like is a best-case scenario at this point.

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 9, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Well,

He pretty clearly isn’t bat-first…

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 9, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s out-first.

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by D.Szymborski on Nov 10, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

oh lord

So true….

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by CaptainCanuck on Nov 10, 2011 7:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I suppose

Going by the percentages, pretty much any Major League hitter is out first.

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by Clefo on Nov 10, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hauntingly enough

For a shortstop, he is bat-first.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 10, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Just...why?

I’m fine with either McDonald or Bloomquist as a backup infielder, even for two years. Really, I am. But having both indicates might indicate that KT thinks that one of them(or a platoon that uses both) should have a starting middle infield spot. And that terrifies me.

Just…just sign Barmes, or Furcal or SOMEONE that can start at SS and let’s put all of this behind us.

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 9, 2011 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

+1

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Bloomquist for the OF?

So he can look at either the OF or INF for a big bat off of the bench. If he’s looking for the biggest bat possible maybe he wants some flexibility.

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by Reynolds rapper on Nov 9, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Bloomquist is simply not

A left fielder at this point in his career. For a game or two a month, he’s fine, but if there’s a long-term injury he isn’t the answer.

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 9, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just trying to reconstruct the thought process.

Unless maybe KT is going to trade Drew for a bat elsewhere?

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by Reynolds rapper on Nov 9, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

inb4

Comparisons of 2008 are made. Please no NL West title hangover injuryfest

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by Torpedosneak on Nov 9, 2011 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously if I was Bloomquist, I would probably fire Boras over

either the McDonald thing or the conflict of interest with him representing Drew. If I was Drew I would probably fire over the conflict of interest.

More time for the other guy means less money for me.

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by Reynolds rapper on Nov 9, 2011 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

Bloomquist shouldn't care, he has two years on his shiny new Boras-provided deal

And Drew isn’t going to be on the bench because of Bloomquist, so I doubt Drew cares either.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Right but if I'm trying to maximize my money,

I’d be kind of sensitive to conflicts even if they are just theoretical. I know they are inevitable when you are talking superagents but I think when you are talking about a guy sharing a depth chart, it’s pretty blatant.

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by Reynolds rapper on Nov 9, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

it only depends

on how much you think the conflict of interest is actually going to cost you, vs. the tradeoff of getting a worse agent

i mean, Bloomquist just got an incredible deal. i think he’s probably fairly happy with his agent right now.

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick Piecoro sez:

“Sources say utility man Willie Bloomquist had a two-year offer from the Giants worth more than the $3.8M he took to stay in Arizona.”

Oh Sabean. Never stop being you.

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 7:09 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Or....

“Sources say (that Scott Boras said) utility man Willie Bloomquist blah blah blah mystery team blah blah blah more money blah.”

Scott Boras is good at his job.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i believe this a lot more

though, to be honest, if Sabes had signed Bloomquist for two years four million plus, i would have been rolling around my apartment laughing……would have been so awesome…..

by blue bulldog on Nov 9, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I agree so much. :-/

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Mo money mo problems

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

oh he's much, much worse.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You can actually

Make a pretty compelling argument that Towers is currently the best GM in the NL West.

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 9, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on...?

I mean, you could have made the argument that Sabean was the best GM in the NL West last year. He’s still the same guy now, and you won’t find many Giants fans exactly singing his praise [assuming McC is a valid barometer, anyway].

Acting as devil’s advocate, you could (not that I necessarily would, I stress) make the argument we won the NL largely in spite of Towers. Outside of the vastly-improved bullpen, what other moves did he make that proved crucial in winning the division? I’m not really thinking of many immediately. Duke, Galarraga, Blum, Miranda, Nady, Marquis, Mora… That’s a lot of cash and players, with very little to show for it.

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by Jim McLennan on Nov 10, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Based on his competititon, mostly.

Ned Colletti: Obviously the McCourt situation hasn’t helped, but he just isn’t a very good GM.

Brian Sabean: He’ll see KT’s veteran fetish, and raise him one Barry Zito.

Dan O’Dowd: In the time it took me to write this, O’Dowd signed the Coors Field beer vendor to 7 years/$110 Million.

Josh Byrnes: I like the guy more than most, but let’s not open up that wound.

Towers hasn’t done much for the D-Backs so far, but he kept San Diego in contention for much of his time there despite a miniscule payroll.

That was sort of my point with the argument: Towers isn’t great, but it isn’t like the other GMs in the division are Andrew Friedman either.

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 10, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

And it isn't like Andrew Friedman

Doesn’t do his job without help from a lot of guys who have been around baseball far longer than him to help him out.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 10, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

fair enough

but i think of it as the guys around the GM as being information-gatherers, whereas the GM being a game-theorist

i just think KT fails at being a game-theorist, whereas, i actually think KT may even be a decent to good information-gatherer, if what they say about his eye for bullpen-arms has any truth to it

by blue bulldog on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 AM EST up reply actions  

i might agree with this

if Hoyer were still around, i’d say he was the run away favorite for best GM in the division. especially after Mike Adams for Erlin and Wieland :(

i still prefer Byrnes over Towers, as long as we had someone work for Byrnes that knew how to obtain cheap bullpen arms.

by blue bulldog on Nov 10, 2011 5:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Or,

If Towers had a progressive, sabermetrics-first assistant to balance his gambler, veteran-addicted tendencies. But where would we ever find someone like that…

/Waves tearfully at Jerry Dipoto

What's one more comeback, anyway?

by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 10, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Ummm.....

Jerry Dipoto is a scouting guru. He knows the stats, but where he is super kickass is scouting talent.

Also, let’s not forget (as I’ve written about for tomorrow) that guys like Zach Duke and Russell Branyan were SABR-esque pickups a year ago.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 10, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, well, well...
Sources say utility man Willie Bloomquist had a two-year offer from the Giants worth more than the $3.8M he took to stay in Arizona.
- Nick Piecoro on Twitter.

I’ll repeat: whether or not this is true, Scott Boras is good at his job.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

I have a feeling

I’ve seen this before….

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, yeah, you could have already said this

…… the link and blockquote were totally valuable here.

My bad.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

S'all good

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by Clefo on Nov 9, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Towers really showed them

a thing or two.

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by xmet on Nov 9, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

.266/.317/.340 = multi year extension

HURRAH

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by CaptainCanuck on Nov 9, 2011 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Convincing people you can play shortstop

= Multi-year contract.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

mythical veteraness grit heart leadership clutch scrappy

= worthless priceless

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by CaptainCanuck on Nov 9, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"Slump? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hitting." Yogi Berra

by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Geoff Blum - $2.7 million

John McDonald – $3 million
Willie Bloomquist – $3.8 million
Veteraniness grit heart leadership clutch scrappy – Priceless

There are some free agents no one will ever buy

For those guys, there’s KT

by blue bulldog on Nov 10, 2011 5:12 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Hahaha, well done

whoah wait why am I laughing, I should be crying

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by CaptainCanuck on Nov 10, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

$6.8M for Bloomquist and MacDonald combined

The chances of either of those guys being effective for 2 years is almost zero, so (IMO) this is $6.8M for one year. I can’t believe we couldn’t do better for $6.8M for one year of infield help. And that doesn’t even count the money we are throwing away on Blum.

Prediction – all 3 of these guys combine next year for less than 1 WAR. The D-Backs win the NL West on the strength of their young pitching. KT gets lauded for yet another brilliant season as GM.

by Craig from Az on Nov 9, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

totally agree.

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by njjohn on Nov 9, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The "multiyear contracts

for bad players" thing is getting pretty annoying. Just let the Giants have him.

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by Jdub220 on Nov 9, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

I don't like it...

But i’m certainly not going insane about it… Drew obviously won’t be 100% to start the season and will probably go back and forth with J-Mac/Bloomquist until he’s healthy. Bloomquist backs up 2nd, LF, SS and Blum backs up 3B and 1B. All together we probably overpaid by 2-3 mil over the next 2 years and probably did it because both guys were here last year and you wouldn’t change personel. Again i don’t like it but i’m not freaking out.

If Drew is traded i will freak out…

by Husk on Nov 9, 2011 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Apparently the Giants' offer was for $4.6MM

Man, I wish he had taken that offer.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 9, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

i just wanted to see the look on my SF friends face

when that happened

he actually had a list of predicted FA he thinks Sabes is likely to go out to target this offseason (all of whom he despises)

at the top of the list was Willie Bloomquist. the rest of that list is Cuddyer, Ibanez, and Crisp.

by blue bulldog on Nov 10, 2011 5:14 AM EST up reply actions  

This was tactical, period

a nice signing, but it was done to light a fire under Drew’s feet.

Is it mid-February yet?

by NASCARbernet on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

Ehh,

I think it’s because they’re unsure about Drew recovering in time for the start of the regular season. They wanted another backup SS who can make sure that McDonald doesn’t have to work everyday for an extended period. They also wanted some people in place for 2013 if/when Drew leaves since nobody from the system will be ready.

Problem is, Cody Ransom could have done the stuff this year on a minor-league deal and we could have found someone next year when necessary w/o committing to someone for this year.

It’s puzzling. There’s definitely is some reason there, though, if you believe strongly in clubhouse value.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 10, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it possible

that we could sign Overbay to a minor league contract, with the understanding that he gets called up mid-season if a) Goldie falters or b) we lose any of our bench guys to injury or suckage? Would Overbay take that kind of deal? If so, I think it solves the remaining problems with the bench.

by Nonpartisan on Nov 10, 2011 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

I would very much agree.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 10, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said in the other post

WTF? After thinking about this for a while, this still doesn’t make sense. I don’t understand this at all. A two year deal? TWO years? Why? Oh, Stephen Drew, I am so worried about you now.

by SongBird on Nov 10, 2011 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

If I was assigned to defend this for a college debate class

I would just drop the class and try again next semester.

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by shoewizard on Nov 11, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

Ouch.......

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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 11, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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