Kevin Towers and Kirk Gibson Extended By Diamondbacks
With a hat-tip to Cardscrazy247, who first mentioned the news, Arizona General Manager Kevin Towers and manager Kirk Gibson have been rewarded for this season's success, by having their contracts reworked this afternoon. Both men were given three-year deals, running through 2014, with the team having the option to extend the deal through 2016 - that decision must be made at the end of the season after next. The move follows on the heels of last week's contract extensions for the coaching staff, who are all signed through 2013.
The move hardly comes as much surprise after Towers and Gibson teamed up to help generate the biggest turnaround in fortunes by a National League club since 1999, taking the Diamondbacks from last to first in the National League West. Here's what Derrick Hall had to say about the moves.
I have always been impressed with KT's relationship and experience and ability. But this year, I was absolutely blown away with Kirk Gibson... He proved that he's going to be one of the elite managers in this game. The results on the field were nice and unexpected, but watching the dynamic between them [Gibson and Towers] was a sign for extreme optimism... To me, I feel very fortunate to have Kevin Towers and Kirk Gibson as part of my team.
I do have to view these with a slightly-jaundiced eye, not least because we still had both their predecessors under contract. A.J. Hinch's deal lasted a season and a half longer than he did, and we will be paying Josh Byrnes through 2015, even while he spends the next four years GM'ing the San Diego Padres. Wish my bossess were willing to give me a contract that paid out, even if they subsequently felt the need to fire me.... But it does go to show that contracts are not necessarily a guarantee of future employment, never mind success. Those who own baseball teams have short memories.
Bob Melvin can attest to that. He led Arizona to the National League Championship Series in 2007, but then found himself seeking a new position one season plus 29 games later, the team having sputtered to a 94-97 record in the meantime. I think Gibson does have a bit more job security, with this team's peripherals making them much closer to a 'legitimate' 90-win team than the 2007 side, who were outscored by the opposition. Plus this version is less likely to be hamstrung by large prior commitments: the 2007 version were on the hook for about $30 million to Randy Johnson, Doug Davis and Eric Byrnes; who combined for 3.2 bWAR the next year.
That said, our bench is looking like an AARP convention right now, with Geoff Blum (39 in April), John McDonald (37) and Henry Blanco (40) occupying three of the five spots.Ok, none of them actually played alongside Gibby - but both Blum and Blanco were team-mates of Orlando Merced, who did (on the 1992 Pirates - yep, that's Cap'n Kirk hitting lead-off...). No shortage of experience there, shall we say - I personally hope that any remaining signings or acquisitions made this winter, skew at least somewhat younger. After all, how much "veteran presence" does one team need?
Maybe that's the point. Perhaps "veteraninesss" is the new undervalued commodity as far as Towers is concerned, with experience a market inefficiency which can be leveraged. And it could be a well-hidden one, because the impact would only be visible in he numbers produced by other players around them? For instance, Henry Blanco's "worth" was not just the 1.1 bWAR he personally provided, but a component of the improvement in Miguel Montero's bWAR from 1.1 to 4.5. Just a thought; certainly, given the improvement posted by Arizona in 2011, it's hard to deny Gibson and Towers found magic somewhere down the back of the sofa.
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The Gibbyheads are happy.
But I’m still expecting his “baseball is football” mindset to take 4 or 5 players the way of Kelly Johnson. I have no idea when the flameout is coming but it’s going to be spectacular.
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
Odd picture,
KT staring at Gibby, who is looking down and away but still shaking hands.
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
If I recall correctly
from the show ‘Lie To Me’ that means he’s lying about something
Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!
by imstillhungry95 on Nov 4, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
In fairness to Gibson
Kelly is frustratingly streaky. I still believe KJ is a great player and that whoever signs him this off-season (my bet is Detroit) will be extremely happy they do, but even Keith Law mentioned in his report of KJ in his free agent list that Kelly often loses confidence and loses his swing. With Gibby’s tough-guy mindset, that’s about as poor of a player-manager match as I can imagine.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
But early on, Roberts was very close to going that direction.
I went to a season ticket holder’s gathering with them and they both seemed irked by the praise Gibson was getting and specifically the lineup sorts of things seemed to severely irritate both.
I’m just saying, there is going to be a point where we reach a Gibbydown.
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Nov 4, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not arguing with that
Just playing some devil’s advocate. Or I guess Gibby’s advocate.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 4, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And can the bigwigs please give me credit
for the word “Gibbydown” when the Gibbydown comes?
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Nov 4, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Moves
Great moves by the Arizona Diamondbacks by signing GM Kevin Towers & HC Kirk Gibson to an extension to the ballclub for more years because without them the D-backs might still be in last place in the NL West or just last or close to last in the NL but with them being with the club for some more years than the D-backs will be in the hunt for the playoffs or just Champions of the NL West for many years to come yet.
Go D-backs!!!!!!!
Steven M. Jewusiak
Or they might have
won the World Series.
"The kingdoms of Experience, In the precious wind they rot, While paupers change possessions, Each one wishing for what the other has got, And the princess and the prince, Discuss what's real and what is not, It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden." B. Dylan
That's good
I guess, Two years doesn’t seem too long to me, but I’m not quite sure about the two year extension. Hopefully, everything goes so well over the next couple years that we don’t even have to think about whether or not to pick up his option
Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!
by imstillhungry95 on Nov 4, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
Their options
Oh where oh where have my Dbacks gone? Oh where oh where could they be!
by imstillhungry95 on Nov 4, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I approve of this.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Nov 4, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sorry for the double post. My phone is goofing up.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Nov 4, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Taken care of
:)
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
by Jim McLennan on Nov 4, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The extensions aren't that big of a deal, really
Basically we exercised KT’s first two-year option and split up his second two-year option into a pair of one-year options. That last part is peculiar, because it gives us more flexibility to dump Towers after 2015 if we so choose, whereas the previous contract would have dictated that either we do so in 2014 or 2016. I’m probably reading too much into it, given that the options have to be settled after the 2013 season, but it just seemed a bit weird.
And Gibson, well, it’s hard to find a manager that is both good in the ways we can’t see – as all reports of Gibson indicate – and doesn’t completely crush your team from the dugout (read: Washington, Ron). After watching the WS, I gained much more appreciation for Gibson’s bullpen use and lineup construction. Bloomquist leadoff is nowhere near as bad as Napoli seventh……
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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 4, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
dude
you can’t compare to Ron Washington though. he’s arguably the worst manager in baseball, in terms of tactical decision-making
that being said, you’re probably right in the sense that Gibby isn’t that much different from the average manager.
You make me laugh
a lot. Given the rarity of the air, there’s really no such thing as ‘the average manger.’
Is it mid-February yet?
I think what bb meant
Was that Gibby is right around the median of major league managers regarding his on-field decision making.
What's one more comeback, anyway?
by Zavada's Moustache on Nov 5, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Add Lyle Overbay to the list of veterany goodness on the bench?
The Diamondbacks are still hopeful of bringing first baseman Lyle Overbay back in a backup role, but Towers said Overbay wants to explore his options. “He has interest in coming back, but he wants to see if there’s maybe an opportunity with a little more playing time,” Towers said. “I think the agent and Lyle know we’re pretty much committed to Goldy (Paul Goldschmidt) and this is a part-time role.”
Link
He’ll be the “youngster” on the bench at only 35…
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
Been a fringe-everyday bat for much of the last five years or so
Would make a good bench bat.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 4, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Music to my ears:
Towers acknowledged that, should the Diamondbacks reach a deal with Hill, there might not be a fit for Bloomquist, not after Wednesday’s deal with infielder John McDonald (two years, $3 million).
“It would change things (with Bloomquist) if I’m able to bring Hill back,” Towers said.
Towers sounded frustrated he hadn’t heard from Bloomquist or agent Scott Boras since learning earlier this week that Bloomquist was declining his end of a mutual option for 2012.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 4, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I’m not sure if the McDonald signing is a “good” thing, but I think Willie overplayed his hand here. There were other options out there, and he and Boras didn’t seem to get that. I would not be in the least unhappy if Bloomquist was plying his trade elsewhere next season.
by azshadowwalker on Nov 4, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
</o-dawg'd>
I suspect Willie might well end up regretting his decision later in the winter. I think he probably didn’t expect Towers to turn immediately to McDonald.
"We have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Cross your fingers. Say a prayer. Think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear..."
Another victory for Scott Boras
I had no idea Boras was his agent until this week. But, now it all makes sense.
Let’s just forget about Bloomquist and see if we can get Hill back. Of course, I am still somewhat baffled by Hill’s turnaround. I am still expecting to see him revert back to 2011 Toronto Hill any day now. But, basically anything that keeps Bloomquist from batting leadoff is a good thing.
It is a victory for Boras
in the same way Charlie Sheen is win-NING.
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Nov 4, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That was exactly my point
Maybe I should have used sarcasm font, sorry.
I know
but I brought the Sheen.
"Hey, why don't you people watch the game?"-my mom after viewing a wave going around Chase Field.
by Reynolds rapper on Nov 4, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Good news
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