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Kennedy/Hudson in Games 4 and 5


Hey everyone, I'm a faithful reader of SnakePit but this is my first post so bear with my ramblings. Basically, my question is this: If the D-Backs can ride Collmenter tonight and the bats wake up, we have a great chance to force a Game 4. Assuming this happens, Gibson HAS to hand the ball to Ian Kennedy on 3-days rest right? I respect Joe Saunders and he's been great in the second half, but he's not an ace and he gets killed by right-handed hitters. If we are fortunate enough to play a Game 4, Kennedy must be the starter, no? Then, if Arizona can escape the desert with a 2-2 series tie, Daniel Hudson has to go in Game 5 right? He would be on his regular rest and despite the result he didn't pitch terribly in Game 2. If we have any shot of coming back, shouldn't this be the plan? Joe can start Game 1 of the NLCS if we get there, but until we do we have to ride the horses that got us here. Anybody agree, disagree, or just want to discuss?

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If they make it to game 4, I think it would be stupid not to start Kennedy.

At this point I don’t think we even know how Saunder’s hand is. So starting Saunders would be a big gamble.

 And I would start Parker over Saunders anyways.

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by txzona on Oct 4, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I really worry

about Kennedy’s effectiveness on short rest, but am also not a fan at all of Saunders starting in a playoff game. I’m conflicted.

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by Jdub220 on Oct 4, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta go with the Vet…. Saunders would be my choice.

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by GuruB on Oct 4, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

This :)

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by Rockkstarr12 on Oct 5, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gibson's already stated

that he’s going with Saunders if it gets there….. i just hope we reconsider given the situation.

by jzaun on Oct 4, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Saunders starts Game Four

With an absurdly short leash. Three, maybe four innings max. Then put in Parker as a piggyback starter for another two or three innings before going to the short relievers.

That leaves Kennedy to start Game Five with Hudson coming out of the bullpen, and perhaps even Collmenter available for an inning.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 5, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I have faith in Joe

I think he’ll do fine and we’ll snag us another win

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by Rockkstarr12 on Oct 5, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he'll go particularly deep in the game

But I do think he can be effective for a few innings before giving it over to Parker for a few more.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 5, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Parker

Three games in and we haven’t even seen him warm up. I’ve got no evidence for this at all, but have a sneaking feeling Gibby will pull a fast one and throw him in there for Game Four, citing Saunders hand-injury as an excuse. If it happens, I told you so. :)

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by Jim McLennan on Oct 5, 2011 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I was

thinking this exact same thing Jim.

Freeze it..and make a popsicle

by Baja F1 on Oct 5, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man

I hope this happens.

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by emilylovesthedbacks on Oct 5, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they platoon the starters

Saunders for three, Parker for three, then bullpen for three. Keep each starter going through the lineup only ~1 time, then have Kennedy go five or six innings followed by Hudson, Hernandez, and Putz in Game Five if it gets that far.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 5, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i still don't think

they’d use Hudson in Game 5

that just doesn’t seem to make much sense to me……

how much time would there be between the NLDS and NLCS?

by blue bulldog on Oct 5, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 days

at most. I believe they would start Sunday or Monday.

Freeze it..and make a popsicle

by Baja F1 on Oct 5, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's needed

You can’t look ahead to the next series. Have to win. Hudson’s the guy who gives us the best chance to do that IMO.

If there’s two days between Game Five and the NLCS, we could start Collmenter in Game One of the LCS, Hudson again in Game Two (three days rest after a relief outing; Miley/Saunders/Parker also options), Kennedy in Game Three, Miley/Saunders/Parker in Game Four, and Collmenter in Game Five for three innings with Hudson and Kennedy each available for a pair of innings of relief apiece.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 6, 2011 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd go with Saunders...

the 3 first innings will prove crucial… if he gets out of it intact, let him pitch more
if he gets in trouble, pull him and bring Kennedy…
I don’t know
I’m just hoping he pitches well and we win this one.

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by Muu on Oct 5, 2011 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

They wont bring in Kennedy

for relief. If Saunders does start, Parker or Owings will come in for long relief if Joe gets into trouble.

Freeze it..and make a popsicle

by Baja F1 on Oct 5, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson has been too spotty lately to start game 5.

Saunders/Kennedy was the way to go.

Otherwise you get a good chance of a game 5 but little chance of winning.

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by Reynolds rapper on Oct 5, 2011 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 6, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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