Arizona Fall League Update 10/15: Holy Munson.
Yeah, you try coming up with a better title involving the name "Munson."
Anyways, with a few more games under the belt in the AFL schedule, it's time to take another look at how Arizona's prospects are faring in the AFL with the Salt River Rafters now that each of Arizona's representatives have seen a few games worth of action.
Pitchers
RHP Charles Brewer - 2 GS, 5.2 IP, 10 H, 8 R (6 ER), 9.53 ERA, 5:3 K:BB, 2 HR, 1.75 GO/AO.
As we covered in the previous Fall League report, Brewer's Pitch f/x readings have looked fine in the AFL, with his sub-standard results coming largely as a product of the absurdly hitter-friendly environment. Brewer improved his numbers in his second outing, working three innings and allowing five hits - including a home run - and three runs (two earned) while striking out three and walking just one. At this point, all we're looking to see is Brewer get in some more innings after he missed much of 2011 due to injury, and hopefully put up some good strikeout and walk peripherals against some more advanced hitters. He's been a tad wild, but there's really nothing to complain about here. Hopefully he'll be able to extend his outings some as the AFL goes on, although with the slew of pitchers on each roster who need work, that seems, sadly, unlikely.
RHP Kevin Munson - 4 G, 4 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0.00 ERA, 9:0 K:BB, 2.00 GO/AO.
If you want an idea of how hitter-friendly the AFL is, just take a look at Munson's hit rate. Over a hit per inning despite striking out nine batters in four innings? That's a BABIP of .625. Absurd. According to Keith Law, Munson sat at 92 mph in one of his relief appearances, though if he's able to get on top of the ball a bit more, there could be reason to expect an extra mile per hour or two and more downward movement. The scouting report on Munson hasn't changed much since he was drafted: low-to-mid 90's fastball, plus slider, control problems. Because of this, seeing Munson able to keep the walks down in the AFL while facing some of the best hitters in the minors is nice, particularly since he's been able to do so while missing bats at a phenomenal rate. Sure, sure, it's way too small of a sample to make any real conclusions, but this is a dominant four-game stretch against the best hitters Munson has ever faced - give the guy credit for that, at the very least. One immensely fun note: Munson retired arguably the top two prospects in the minor leagues - Mike Trout and Bryce Harper - in the same inning in a scoreless ninth on October 13, striking out both Trout and Wes Middlebrooks swinging (although he did give up a triple to Anaheim's Hank Conger) for his first save with the Rafters.
RHP Eric Smith - 3 G, 5.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R (1 ER), 1.69 ERA, 3:4 K:BB, 1.17 GO/AO.
There were two things I was hoping to see Smith do in the AFL: walk fewer batters, and give up fewer hits. Smith has the hits part down so far, although this was the less important goal in my view because of the craziness of the AFL and the small sample sizes. Unfortunately, he hasn't gotten the "not walking people" part down, as he's already given up four free passes in three appearances. He's wiggled out of his messes so far, but if he keeps walking people like this, he won't make it past Double-A (and might not even make it to Double-A). Good arm with good sink on his fastball, but he has to control it.
RHP Bryan Woodall - 4 G, 6 IP, 6 H, 4 R (3 ER), 4.50 ERA, 8:0 K:BB, 4.00 GO/AO.
Woodall will never light up a radar gun - reports I've read have him mostly in the upper-80's and dipping into the low-90's - and isn't hugely tall at just 6'1", but he's now put up phenomenal numbers in the minor leagues his entire career since being selected in the 21st round of the 2008 draft. At this point, it looks like he deserves an opportunity to make it as a big-league middle relief type. In 157 relief appearances in the minors (more at Double-A Mobile than any other level; not counting AFL), Woodall has worked 230.2 innings, posting a 3.24 ERA, a 257:63 K:BB ratio (10.0 K/9, 2.5 BB/9), and allowing just 13 home runs (0.5 HR/9). His lack of velocity will likely keep him out of the late innings, but he gets heavy sink on his fastball and throws a ton of strikes, showing the ability to miss bats with his off-speed stuff. He's continued his sterling work in his second trip to the AFL, striking out a lot of batters, throwing a lot of strikes, and getting a lot of ground balls. The ERA isn't shiny, but with the environment, that's perfectly okay to me. Looks like a nice AAA-MLB swingman at least.
2B David Nick - 7 G, 10-24 (.417), 1 2B, 2:3 K:BB.
Nick had a breakout year at Visalia, showing solid hitting ability and good defense at second base, while earning several projections as an everyday second baseman in the major leagues. He was an aggressive assignment to the AFL, but is more than holding his own in the league. While his batting average certainly looks flashy, I would advise people to not get over-their-heads excited about it, as a) I believe I've mentioned a couple of times that the Arizona Fall League is hitter-friendly, and b) if you want proof of that, Nick's absurd batting average is just sixth-best in the league, and second on his own team behind Houston's Kody Hinze. The K:BB ratio is certainly nice, although I would certainly like to see a bit more thunder in Nick's bat. Still, SSS, and since my hopes for Nick were simply "keep head above water," I can safely say so far, so good.
3B Ryan Wheeler - 7 G, 12-31 (.387), 5 2B, 3:1 K:BB.
Sure, Wheeler's line of .387/.406/.548 sure looks nice, but keep in mind that Wheeler's slugging percentage ranks just 20th in the league, while his on-base percentage is 26th. That fits with the expectations of Wheeler that I've come to develop from his season at Mobile: solid hitter, but not good enough at the plate to play first base. With Keith Law saying in a recent ESPN.com chat that he doesn't see Wheeler being capable of sticking at third base defensively, I don't see Wheeler fitting as an everyday player in the big leagues. Still, if Wheeler can handle first base, third base, and the corner outfield positions on a reserve basis while providing a decent bat off the bench, he could provide nice value off the bench in the major leagues.
OF Adam Eaton - 6 G, 10-24 (.417), 1 2B, 1 3B, 7:4 K:BB, 4:0 SB:CS.
Eaton's line of .417/.517/.542 gives him the best OPS among Arizona's three AFL bats, and Eaton just continues to hit at every stop he makes in his pro career. Eaton has struck out a surprising amount in the AFL, but with just 76 strikeouts and a .318 in over 500 plate appearances in the minor leagues this year, I'm hardly worried about Eaton's contact abilities. It would be nice to see a bit more thunder from Eaton as well, but the Rafters have regularly put him in the lead-off spot in the lineup, so Eaton's job is to get on base in front of the big bats on the Rafters roster, Tim Wheeler and Nolan Arenado of Colorado. Needless to say, Eaton's been doing a pretty fine job of that. He likely isn't a center fielder long-term, but I'm actually not willing to completely count out his bat playing in a corner outfield spot, particularly with plus defense and a fantastic throwing arm from the outfield. It truly is a shame that Eaton isn't a right-handed thrower, because he would be a sure-fire top-100 - and maybe top-50 - prospect in all of baseball if he could play in the infield at third base or second base. At the very least, Eaton looks like a better option as a fourth outfielder than Collin Cowgill by 2013, in my opinion.
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If Keith Law says Wheeler can't stick at 3rd
The odds of Wheeler winning a GG at 3rd someday just went up
The worst major leaguer is better at baseball than I'll ever be at anything I ever do in my life.
Those strikeout numbers are probably deceptive
and a lot of factors may be involved, including the lighting at the time Munson was pitching. Poor light conditions can make a huge difference.
Is it mid-February yet?
maybe
but i mean, look at that inning. he faced Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Hank Conger, and Will Middlebrooks (i’m assuming this is a typo on Dan’s part)
that’s four Top 100 prospects for sure, including the top two prospects in the game. and he struck out Mike Trout, who is incredibly difficult to strike out.
there’s definitely a lot to be optimistic about with Munson.
by blue bulldog on Oct 15, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Time for a trade
I love these numbers, and the numbers of a lot of our minor leaguers this year. I’m really curious about how other teams see their value and who might be in play to be part of a trade package this off-season.
Obviously, I wouldn’t trade anyone from our positions of need; 2b, ss, C and CF are always in demand, but we’ve got a bit of a logjam in the outfield and at 3b/1b. How much would we miss the departure of Borchering, Wheeler, Pollock or even someone at the major league level like Cowgill or Parra (yes, I know, we all love Parra)?
With some of the overlapping prospects we have in the lower/mid minors, I think it’s well worth it to be searching hard for 2-3 years of a middle of the order bat for the lineup.
i agree
i sort of think this should be our priority in the offseason. try to trade for a middle of the order bat.
by blue bulldog on Oct 15, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
As great as this idea is
Nobody’s going to move a star infielder for a package of spare part prospects who play unskilled positions. Borchering, Wheeler, Cowgill, Parra, and Pollock, even all together, don’t get you that kind of bat unless you’re making a big-time gamble (i.e. Wright).
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 17, 2011 1:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Eaton's line
no idea what’s up with the strikeouts, though three of them came on one really bad game. agree though that it’s not too worrying in the long run, as his contact ability should be fine. definitely wished he had more thunder in his bat. definitely also wished he was ambidextrous and could throw with his right arm and play 2B.
i wouldn’t discount him entirely from playing CF. it sounds like he’d be an average defender out there. it’s just that Pollock is probably a plus defender at this point.
Pollock is probably below-average in CF
Eating is worse.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 16, 2011 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Eaton
Darn auto-correct.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 16, 2011 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Goldstein & BA
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 16, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Goldstein has been terrible lately.
And BA just had this in the top 20 reports:
“Some scouts project him as a quality defender in center field, while others see him as merely adequate. He has an average arm.”
Not sure where you get them saying he is below average from that quote.
Yout choice to dismiss Goldstein is your own
But that quote from BA is exactly what I mean.“Quality defender” is average at the position – not good or great or plus – while “adequate” suggests exactly what the definition is, the capable of doing it but not excelling in any way, i.e. not having to move off CF but not average there.
That quote is exactly where I get that from.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 17, 2011 1:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah
i don’t know about Goldstein, because i basically never read him
but BA has never been down on Pollock’s fielding that i know of. i think there are other posters at minorleagueball who have seen Pollock and think he’s at least an above average fielder as well.
by blue bulldog on Oct 16, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Some random dude on Minor League Ball
Who published a write-up from a single Montgomery-Mobile game isn’t exactly a solid, reputable source of data.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 17, 2011 1:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
really?
outfield defense really isn’t too hard to judge imo if you can see the player. my issue would be that it’s only one start. you’re probably just watching Pollock get a few chances in any given game, so it doesn’t say that much about his overall level of fielding ability.
Sickels had this to say about Eaton v. Pollock:
“Eaton – I think he’s more of a corner outfielder defensively…i mean, he’s not BAD in center by any means, you can play him there, but I think Pollock has better range.”
that says to me at worst, Eaton is below average as a defender, and Pollock is average. otherwise, based on your interpretation (Pollock is below average, Eaton is worse), Pollock would be a -5 defender at CF, and Eaton would be a -10 defender at CF. i don’t think anybody would play a -10 defender in CF, unless they’re Matt Kemp, and Sickels is definitely saying that you can play Eaton in CF.
by blue bulldog on Oct 17, 2011 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, those numbers were what I was going for.
If someone is projected as a corner outfielder, it means that they’d be a massive liability in center field. CF is so much more valuable than a COF that it would be folly to move someone who is simply a bit below average. So if someone is projected as a COF, i.e. Eaton, it’s because they’re probably going to be pretty bad in CF.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 17, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i think
we are reading the statement very differently
i read Sickels as “Pollock has better range, which is why you would move Eaton to COF. You can play Eaton in CF, which means he’s -5 defender there at worst.”
for more context, Sickels was responding to a question asking “Can Adam Eaton be a better CF than A.J. Pollock?”
by blue bulldog on Oct 17, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Then what is the phrase
“I think he’s more of a corner outfielder defensively” doing there?
Context or not, that’s pretty hard to interpret any differently if you ask me.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 18, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Ask, and ye shall receive.
Adam Eaton came through with a double and a home run today. Brings his line up to 382/462/588.
It is somewhat weird that he continues striking out though.
Eaton reminds me of Victorino
without the switch-hitting, obviously. First and foremost, he is physically similar to Victorino — even to the point of sort of shuffle-running like him when coming off the field. He’s about the same size, and he seems to like to go the other way with his swing — at least on the two occasions I have seen him thus far at the AFL. His defense has been very good on those occasions, too. He seems to be quite fast (maybe a 60 on the scout scale?) and he also seems to get good jumps.
I also love his make-up, at least as reflected in his on-field temperament/personality.
Not saying he’ll be as good as Victorino. But the similarities make one hopeful.
Oh, and he also gunned down Bryce Harper
last Thursday night, when Harper tried to tag from first on a moderately deep fly to the right-field corner. Dumb play by Harper, who has the over-aggressiveness of youth, but nevertheless it was a very nice throw and heads-up recognition on the part of Eaton.

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