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Diamondbacks get Matt Gorgen as PTBNL in Qualls trade

It was announced today that the Diamondbacks will receive reliever Matt Gorgen from the Rays as the PTBNL for sending them Chad Qualls. Gorgen played for the AA Montgomery Biscuits this season, was tied for the Southern League in saves at 22 and put up 1.65 ERA, allowing 21 walks while striking out 47. He did miss about a month of the season with tendinitis, starting in July. The Montgomery Advertiser picked Gorgen as their team MVP. Before the season started, Minor League Ball had him as the #20 prospect in the Rays organization. Rays Prospects had him at #14, and they discuss his drop in command towards the end of last season.

Since being traded to the Rays, Chad Qualls has appeared in 16 games and allowed 9 earned runs for an ERA of 6.57.

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Wait. What?

We traded Qualls? When did that happen??

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 9, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Not soon enough

If you'd have been a dog.....
They would of drowned you at birth.

by edbigghead on Sep 10, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just as soon

as Fiery Kirk Gibson found out that Edbigghead hated Qualls for being worthless.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait.

why did they give us an even better player for qualls?

Haiku are simple,
But they often don't make sense,
Refrigerator.

by blank_38 on Sep 9, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Hold up.

We got more than a bag of balls? Kick @#$%!

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I know!

I still can’t believe that we got a warm, breathing baseball player for Chad Qualls!

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 10, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually would have settled for the low end

of the baseball scale. They could have been BP used baseballs.

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 10, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just surprised

That it’s an arm above A-ball. But I figured we’d get a live relief arm.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang

I haven’t been following Qualls since he was traded… Looking at his stats all i can say is good riddance.

by ZonaBacks10 on Sep 9, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 10, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he'll be needing a job?

I assume that this was the idea of that post.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

those peripherals

are pretty decent. i’m definitely surprised we were able to get someone like him for qualls….though of course there’s no guarantee that gorgen will pan out in the majors

still, was definitely expecting much worse

by blue bulldog on Sep 9, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't believe

we got a living, breathing, human being for Qualls.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 38

by Jdub220 on Sep 10, 2010 12:09 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I was hoping for a

zombie, but to each his own.

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on Sep 10, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now, Justin

I know we’ve made our anti-zombie stance perfectly clear.

"I hate it when I'm right. Wait- no, I don't."

by kishi on Sep 10, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Justin,

I just wanted to inform you that you have been officially traded to the Nippon Ham-Fighters for Yu Darvish. We wish you good luck in all future endeavors.
                            Sincerely,
                             Battle Moses Snake Pit GM

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 10, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now

Is Yu Darvish going to pitch for us, or just post comments in Justin’s place?

"I hate it when I'm right. Wait- no, I don't."

by kishi on Sep 10, 2010 1:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He has agreed to both.

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 10, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had no idea you could speak english.

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 10, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

麿 話し 薄薄 英国

by Yu_Darvish on Sep 10, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

OH no I have created a monster

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 10, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

 番号 情意 麿 アサイン マイクロエレクトロニクス?

by Yu_Darvish on Sep 10, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are assigned the number 99.

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 10, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

Yu Darvish = Mandy?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 11, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

All of this

What the… I don’t even…

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, traded to the fighters of Nippon Ham

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 10, 2010 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I know,

I am still on a LL team in Vermont, per Kishi?

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on Sep 10, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You were

But once we figured out we could swing a deal for Yu Darvish, we set up a deal to send the Little League team a terrier puppy- Welsh terrier, if I remember right- so we could get you back, and then send you to join the Nippon Ham Fighters.

With a move like that, I think BattleMoses just earned himself an interview with the Diamondbacks for Jerry DiPoto’s job.

"I hate it when I'm right. Wait- no, I don't."

by kishi on Sep 10, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have settled for a kitten.

Hey, Vasquez,have you ever been mistaken for a man ?
No, have you?

by hotclaws on Sep 10, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great!

when he throws high cheese,I can post “Gorgen-zola!”

Hey, Vasquez,have you ever been mistaken for a man ?
No, have you?

by hotclaws on Sep 10, 2010 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps you would prefer

Now THATSA spicy meataball!!!!!!!

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Sep 10, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or how about

“Gorgen turns a guy to stone with the wicked slider.”

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 10, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

The real winner is Chad

who will end up with a ring this year. Talk about worst to first.

As for Gorgen, steal.

by Husk on Sep 10, 2010 5:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's not get too excited here

Just taking a quick peek at minorleaguesplits.com, Gorgen’s going to be a middle reliever at best if his ground-ball rate this year is any indication – 31.3%. EWWWW. 47.3% FB%?!?! Chase Field is going to destroy him.

He only survived because he had a 3.2% HR/FB rate and that is not something that is going to continue in the major leagues. The over-8 K/9 rate is nice, but the nearly-4 BB/9 rate won’t be passable once that HR/FB regresses.

The real value of this deal, as we all knew all along, was shedding Qualls’ salary. Though I guess we also now have a former Montgomery Biscuit in the system. So there’s another awesome plus.

I find it hilarious that he was “promoted” to Triple-A, despite the Aces’ season being over and the BayBears still having playoff games… perhaps they have qualifications for postseason rosters in the minors too?

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 6:15 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm seriously

beginning to consider that flyball pitchers are going to be more successful in chase (in these next couple of years at least) rather than groundball pitchers because

1) our outfield defense as a whole is a lot stronger than our infield defense
2) chase field has become less and less home run friendly in recent years. in 2006 we lead MLB in HR park factor, but the past two years our HR park factor was at 104 (barely above the median)
3) our problem seems to be that we give up a significant number of doubles and triples. our walls aren’t very high, so it’s not likely that these extra base hits come from deep fly balls that hit the wall (only place where this is possible is deep center), which means that our defense can get to most “fly balls” and the problem is more the line drives we give up (corroborated by stories from hitters of how good our batter’s eye is, which leads to hard hits). a quick look at the leaderboards on fangraphs doesn’t show much of a connection between line drive rates and groundball/flyball rates, though i tend to wonder if the hard grass allows for more doubles down the baseline at chase than in other parks
4) since hard hits seem to be the main problem, and it seems we can’t control for it well, then the comparative advantage seems to go to pitchers who can limit walks. flyball pitchers tend to walk people a lot less than groundball pitchers

granted, if we get one of those strike-throwing ground-burners a la the tim hudson mold, i’d be pretty happy too. but i feel like those are a lot rarer than just normal flyball pitchers who can limit their walks

by blue bulldog on Sep 10, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would disagree, for a couple of reasons

1) Our infield defense isn’t too shabby. The only semi-hole is Kelly at second base, who doesn’t have great range, but I would rate Drew, Reynolds, and LaRoche as above-average defenders at their positions.

2) The fact that balls are hit hard also means that HR/FB rates would be expected to be high. Over the last few years, who knows, but it seems like just a bit of logic to me. Ian Kennedy’s HR/FB is 11.1%, Rodrigo’s is at 13.7%, Barry’s is finally going up, and we all saw what happened to Dan Haren this year.

The limiting walks point is solid, because hard hit balls are going to happen at Chase and it’s better if there’s not free base-runners on when they do, but I’m not sure about the ground-ball/fly-ball pitchers having dramatically different walk totals. Does this come from the simple idea that a diving sinker is harder to control than a straight four-seamer?

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had a dream last night Kelly Johnson retired

take that for what it is worth

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by JustAJ on Sep 10, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

but yes

gorgen’s walk rate is too high

by blue bulldog on Sep 10, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a good prospect

when wil we see him, now or next season

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Sep 10, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I do find it humorous

That relievers are ever ranked in the top-20 on teams’ top prospects lists when they don’t have closer potential… BA, I think, had him at #28. That sounds about right.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

good non-closer relievers

can still generate 1-2 WAR though……or even more

that’s better than many other prospects

just look at luke gregerson, or matt thornton, or mike adams

by blue bulldog on Sep 10, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those guys

Are three out of 180 (six non-closer relievers per team in a standard seven-man ‘pen, times thirty teams). I’ll take a slim chance at a legit position player or starting pitcher.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's had

a good year in Double-A that’ll boost his stock significantly, though. He wouldn’t have been ranked #28 currently.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 10, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's actually had

A pretty mediocre year in Double-A in terms of rates. Too many walks, far too many fly balls (47.3%).

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Double-A

tends to be pitcher friendly, unlike High-A or Triple-A, but he had a pretty good year in High-A.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely - Suffice it to say

He’s not going to post a 3.2% HR/FB rate anywhere else ever again.

It’ll be a sixth/seventh-inning arm unless the FB% changes. Nice and cheap, though.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, really

If you can get a cheap sixth or seventh inning arm in exchange for an expensive closer that wasn’t closing, that’s a win.

I don’t think anyone is all that psyched up over Gorgen, just pleased that we got anything in return for an arm that was giving up runs in nearly half of his appearances.

"I hate it when I'm right. Wait- no, I don't."

by kishi on Sep 10, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

The big value of this trade was exactly what it was the very moment it was completed – we didn’t have to pay a nickel of Chad Qualls’ remaining salary.

The rest was just a jellybean put on top of the delicious money-filled cupcake.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmmmm money cupcake (gargle).

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 11, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

seems Rays fans don’t particularly like this, but there are other fish in their sea.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 10, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Silly Rays fans

Thinking they can offer Qualls arbitration for a compensatory pick and that he wouldn’t accept. Tee-hee!

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by Dan Strittmatter on Sep 10, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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