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Filling the gaps on the 2011 Diamondbacks

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There's a good chunk of certainty about the regular players for the Arizona Diamondbacks next season. We look largely set going up the diamond, with Miguel Montero at catcher, Stephen Drew plus Kelly Johnson on the middle infield, and Chris Young in center. Mark Reynolds and Justin Upton will be at third and right respectively - cue incoherent frothing from the AZCentral contingent. The Hydra constitutes much of our rotation, too.

However, that still leaves a number of open spots. While it's something we'll talk much more about in the off-season, after the jump, we take a look at the remaining spots and what might be done with regard to them.

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FIRST-BASE
Internal candidate: Adam LaRoche.
Leading free agents: Adam Dunn, Paul Konerko, Carlos Pena

LaRoche set a record for RBI by an Arizona first-baseman, and his 23 homers to date are the most since 2005, when Tony Clark had 26, and combined with Chad Tracy for forty there. However, outside of the power, his OPS of 106@ is middling, for a spot that usually is productive - Adam currently ranks 19th of 27 among 1B who have 100+ games played. He's also one of four players in the majors with over 150 K's and less than fifty walks. Defensively, he's good at digging balls in the dirt, but there's questions about his range. All told, Baseball-Reference.com rates him exactly at league average, and Fangraphs at +1.0, so he seems overall about neutral with the glove.

Adam is a free-agent at the end of the year, unless he and the Diamondbacks exercise the mutual option - it's for $7.5 million, with a $1.5 million team buyout. That seems a bit expensive for someone whose overall value is currently 1.4 WAR (Fangraphs) or 0.9 WAR (BR), which may be why there have been talks about an extension for LaRoche instead. Both sides currently seem amenable to that, though I doubt anything will be signed until the position of permanent GM has been decided. We should also note that LaRoche will turn 31 in the off-season - Arizona has been hurt by giving extensions to players in their thirties before...

However, the same would be true for almost any free-agent available in the off-season, with Jorge Cantu about the only other option that is still younger. We are probably not looking for a long term solution - with any luck, by 2013, the likes of Paul Goldschmidt will be just about ready to take over. I wouldn't be averse to something like two years, $10 million for LaRoche to bridge the gap at first until the next wave of prospects are major-league ready.

LEFT-FIELD
Internal candidates: Brandon Allen, Gerardo Parra, Ryan Church
Leading free-agents: Carl Crawford, Pat Burrell, Manny Ramirez

This has probably been the Diamondbacks' weakest position overall, since Luis Gonzalez became a below-average hitter in the NL. Gonzo was the last player there with an OPS of 110 or better, back in 2005; recently, it has mostly been Parra, with OPS+'s of 85 and 79 in the past two seasons. Particularly this year, Parra's defense has been good: over all outfield positions, he's +16 runs at BR and +13.6 at Fangraphs, stopping his overall value from being below replacement level. He still struggles against left-handers, with a career-line of .242/.276/.275, an unaccaptable OPS of .541, though has done better this year, albeit in barely fifty plate-appearances.

It may be why left-hander Allen has been seeing playing-time in left, a position he hadn't played since high school. This wouldn't necessarily prohibit Allen from playing first-base [we've seen "split" 1B/OF before in Arizona, in Tracy and Conor Jackson], though if LaRoche, another left-hander, is the regular 1B, there would seem to be less opportunity for that. The question is, will Allen's inexperience at the position outweigh any offensive contribution? That's why I'm a little surprised he has started less than half the games since getting called up: I'd try to give him as much experience as possible there, in these largely meaningless contests. But then, I'm not an "interim" anything...

I'd better mention Church, or xmet will kick my ass. :-) He will be in his final year of arbitration eligibility, and earned $1.5 million last season. He has been decent off the bench for Arizona, but his overall OPS+ has been in decline every season since 2006. In the light of this, and given that Church turns 32 next month, it'd be a brave man who'd predict a renaissance in 2011.

STARTING PITCHING
Internal candidate: Joe Saunders, Jarrod Parker
Leading free-agents: Cliff Lee, Brandon Webb, Ted Lilly, Jon Garland

Given that after the trade, interim GM Jerry DiPoto described Saunders as "a guy who quite frankly has been one of the winners in Major League Baseball," we haven't seen much actual winning out of the Colonel. In ten starts, he has just two W's, with a 4.88 ERA over that time. Fangraphs has him at 0.3 WAR, and that's better than BR, which values Joe at -0.7 WAR. It's certainly going to be difficult to decide whether to non-tender him this winter. He's in his second year of arbitration, so I'd expect $4-5 million is the going rate. It would be nice to have a veteran on the 2011 staff - but Rodrigo Lopez has had a similar ERA+ this year (85 vs. 88), at a fraction of the cost.

The club is taking a conservative approach with Jarrod Parker's rehab from Tommy John surgery last October. It was a surprise he wasn't listed on the AFL roster, and he seemed none too pleased about it. That certainly makes it seem unlikely he'll be part of the team for Opening Day, though whether he starts the year in Double-A or Triple-A is uncertain. That said, assuming his recovery goes to plan, and he pitches as well as his standing as our top prospect justifies, he seems likely to be a factor later in the season: there seems unlikely to be a rush to start his service-time clock next year.

And then there's Webb... Looking at the results of our recent poll, 20% of voters said we should "forget about him", while 51% offered a base salary of $2 million and 24% said $5 million. On the subject of incentives, 16% said $2m, 24% said $4m, and 40% topped it out at $6m. Almost no-one - and I've a feeling the few who did were not so-friendly visiting fans! - agreed with his agent that the conversation should be starting around the $8 million mark. I can't say that's too much of a surprise. If we don't re-sign him, we may end up looking for a free-agent replacement for Saunders; a veteran left-hander, though no-one leaps out off the list as especially possible.

RELIEF PITCHING
Internal candidates: more or less the entire bullpen
Leading free agents: Mariano Rivera, Rafael Soriano, Brian Fuentes

We'd almost forgotten the bullpen: from the start of August until our arrival in Pittsburgh, they'd quietly put together a very-respectable 3.87 ERA, over 114 innings of work. But against the Pirates, they went 0-2, blowing a pair of D-backs leads and allowing eight runs in 8.1 innings of work. So the question needs to be posed again for the 2011 relief corps: who will survive, and what will be left of them? We don't have a single reliever at this point with 20 innings pitched for Arizona and even a 100 ERA+, but I would say there are a few arms in the 'pen we should likely look to hold onto for next year.

DJ Carrasco has been solid since coming to the D-backs, while Sam Demel is young enough (24) that he can be expected to improve. Juan Gutierrez's overall numbers are unimpressive, but that's mostly because of a really-horrific start: since June 9, he has a 2.45 ERA over 33 innings. He's still getting minimum-salary, so I'd keep him as well. Blaine Boyer will be arbitration-eligible, and I'm not sure what happened on June 9, but like Gutierrez, he has improved a lot since that date (ERA before: 7.90; after: 3.20). Esmerling Vasquez actually has the best season ERA of anyone with 20 IP, but needs to stop walking people.

The main question-marks are the closer's spot and a left-hander. Gutierrez has been occupying the spot of late, and hasn't blown one since taking over in mid-August. But in his September chat, Derrick Hall said, "We would like to beef up the back-end of the bullpen by trading for a closer or signing one in the off-season." I'm cautious about this: while the relief corps has obviously been a disaster this year, closers get overpaid. I don't think we necessarily need someone with 30-plus saves; I think the same money would probably be better spent, on getting two relievers who just get outs.

A left-hander in particular would be welcome, with Jordan Norberto's control issues (twenty walks in 18.1 innings) suggesting he's not yet ready for prime-time, and Zach Kroenke's numbers even worse (14 batters faced, five outs). Mike Hampton has been impressive since coming up, retiring every batter faced: however, we're only talking seven of them, so I'm reluctant to commit. However, if he can be had cheaply - and hey, he's earned $125 million in his career already - I'd not be averse to a longer audition. Over his career, his splits don't show much difference between LHB and RHB, though 2009 (the last year with meaningful numbers) did. He seems a possibility.

Poll
What's the top priority for the D-backs this winter?
First-base
2 votes
Left-field
11 votes
Starting pitching
30 votes
The bullpen
238 votes

281 votes | Poll has closed

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the thing i worry about for laroche

is i think he actually inflates the defensive ratings of our other infielders because of his ability to dig balls out of the dirt. still, that’s not necessarily enough of a reason to keep him. i don’t think he’ll sign a 2 year 10 million contract, though i think that would be a good deal for us. he’s worth much more than that. though the fact that there are a lot of good 1B in the market this year might drive his price down.

i’ve been dreaming about having carl crawford in left field recently. i think he would do wonders for our team, as we’d finally have that prototypical leadoff hitter to set things up for a mashers in the middle of the lineup. i think our lineup is good, but just too unbalanced. we don’t have someone with who can use his speed to great advantage in the leadoff. if we could sign him to a 6 year 18 million per year contract, i’d be so happy. then we could also move brandon allen to first. imagine an outfield defense of crawford, young, and upton!!

honestly, i’d just like to see us splurge on a marquee free agent with all this money coming off the books. if we don’t get crawford, then i want to see us get cliff lee. but neither will probably happen (and in fact, i definitely prefer crawford over lee if we had to sign a marquee agent). since we’re probably not gonna get lee, then i’d want to DFA saunders, and try to sign hiroki kuroda or something. if kuroda would be okay with a 2 year 15 million type deal, i think that’s solid.

bullpen definitely needs an overhaul. i agree with trying to get two great setup men for cheap instead of necessarily getting someone like rafael soriano. assuming we’d be able to get two great setup men for cheap. i’m skeptical about that. i’m still obsessed with joaquin benoit and j.j. putz

by blue bulldog on Sep 20, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

If you are going to have the external

bullpen candidates you do, why not Dotel, Rauch, Balfour and a couple of those?

What are the external managerial choices outside of Valentine (who wants back in but won’t get Chicago) and Wakamatsu?

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 20, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

See blue bulldog's

Fanpost from last month on possible bullpen candidates. That topic was largely already covered.

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Sep 20, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold

AZ has a glut of LF/1b coming up through the system. I’m still a believer that 2011 needs to be a rebuilding year. I’d fill both spots with the one of two things:
1) The best major league ready prospect we’ve got. Right now I guess that would be Allen and…Parra? Gillespie? Do we have any other 1b we can try out?
2) Cheap free agents we might be able to flip at next year’s deadline.

Mostly, I’d save our “big splash” money for next year, targeting a legit #1/2 arm.

by Counsellmember on Sep 20, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

there really aren't

any #1 in my opinion for next year’s free agency, though there is a glut of 2/3 type starters

if we want to go for the economical approach, that might be better. but i’ve been itching for a splash lately, and if we want to go for a splash, and we feel like LF/1B is covered by the minors in the near future, then i say we get cliff lee in free agency this year

on the other hand, i’m not completely sold on krauss/goldschmidt/wheeler and the like…so i wouldn’t mind getting someone who would be a better balance to our team (than say krauss/goldschmidt) like carl crawford (big splash…)and trade those prospects away for an ace, who would be cheaper than cliff lee in FA

by blue bulldog on Sep 21, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

But we wouldn’t be limited to just FA big splashes. What about a nice Haren-esqe trade again for someone like Greinke? We’ve got too many LF/1b power/strikout guys in the low minors just like we have on the major league team. A couple of them and maybe Skaggs could get us the kind of pitcher to lead the solid group we’ve got in there right now.

by Counsellmember on Sep 21, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

so basically we trade haren and a couple of our top 10 prospects for greinke? that’s so sad…

but yes. i would like to get a greinkesque ace.

by blue bulldog on Sep 21, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no, no.

Guys, Greinke isn’t an ace. Dude’s only got like 8 winz.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 21, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow your poll is not even remotely close.

(not that I am at all surprised)

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on Sep 20, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I said starters

with Ian Kennedy and Daniel Husdon the only consistent pitchers in the rotation…Enright is pitching more like his stuff suggest he would lately, while Lopez and Saunders have just been terrible (giving us one good outing for every 3 or 4 bad ones)…without decent starters a good bullpen would be next to worthless

by phx suns on Sep 20, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

enright will probably be back of the rotation material

even so, with jarrod parker full time, the 2012 season would have us at parker, hudson, kennedy, and enright for a combined $2 million. we could probably try to sign a number 3 type starter (or 3 WAR type starter) for like a 2-3 year deal this year, and that’d be like a $10 million very effective rotation. or maybe cliff lee, and that’s a $22 million VERY SCARY rotation.

2012 would also see us at around $36 million for position players minus 2B, 1B, and LF. i think our FO will want to try to sign KJ to an extension, and since he’s not a boras client, that actually might be possible. include KJ and our upper limit goes to about $44 million. i imagine one if not both of 1B and LF will be minimum wage prospects. or maybe we splurge on carl crawford and have a $62 million position player group!

it’ll be interesting to see what we do with all the money that is coming off the books this year. right now we stand at $29 million for six position players not including 1B and LF (though brandon allen will definitely fill one of those spots), $1.5 million for three starters (not including joe saunders because the FO does have the option of non-tendering him) and various bullpen expenses

this is why i want us to go for a big splash this year

by blue bulldog on Sep 21, 2010 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did not mean to click on first base

damn I wasted my vote!

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by JustAJ on Sep 21, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

You're close enough to Chicago

that you can vote several times…

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 21, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

zing!

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by JustAJ on Sep 21, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

hands down

bullpen

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by sergey606 on Sep 21, 2010 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Are we putting any faith

In Clay Zavada coming back next year?

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Sep 21, 2010 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Haven't heard anything about his rehab.

Seems like he should be good to go by Spring Training.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 21, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so!

"In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back." ~Charles M Schulz

by Rockkstarr12 on Sep 22, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd better mention Church... =D>

… it’d be a brave man who’d predict a renaissance in 2011."
Which is why I fault Gibby for not playing him when first acquired, while Parra was in his 0 for whatever. Having seen him play, probably more than anyone on this board, gives me the feeling that he can produce if played full time, but not as a bench player.
If the Dbacks had LF locked up for 2011 I could see the lack of interest, but this team seems to not want to improve, like Reynolds not seeing the problem with 200+ Ks and a BA lower than that.
:-)

by xmet on Sep 21, 2010 7:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Can the Diamondbacks win

with 400 strikeouts at 3rd base and right field in 2011? If Reynolds doesn’t raise his average at least 50 points next year, he’s just a 7th place defensive hitter with some power.

The Great and Mighty....

by NASCARbernet on Sep 21, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

There are things you can do:

1. Bat someone 9th
2. Get 2-3 contact, top of the lineup guys at open positions
3. un-coach Reynolds
4. Bat Upton 2nd

The general idea is to maximize guys on base for the high power high K guys. Also, Upton seemed to respond to the 2 spot before the injury.

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

reynolds does need to raise his average

but i’m pretty confident statistical variation will allow him to get back to being at least a 240 hitter. and with his walk rate and power that’s all he needs. he’s hitting his prime right now, and as long as he plays healthy (instead of injured like he’s been this year) he’ll be alright

our problem is we don’t have enough speed/obp at the top of the order. like RR says, maybe we should try to keep batting upton 2nd. or even 1st. i don’t know why he started striking out like crazy this year, but he’s gotta stop doing that. he’s not the same type of hitter reynolds is. we definitely need more speed/obp at 1st. so we basically have one spot in the lineup (either at LF or 1B) where we can find such a player.

by blue bulldog on Sep 21, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that this year was his statistical anomalie season

but the pressure will definitely be on him next year to produce much more consistently. Mystery Man J Up seems to be more productive in the second half of the season, like LaRoche.

The Great and Mighty....

by NASCARbernet on Sep 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just say that because you hate Notre Dame.

;-)

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by 4 Corners Fan on Sep 21, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could always fake

getting rid of Heilman….

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

True,

and I’m also a self-hating Catholic.

But seriously, dude wants to be a FA. No way he’s back.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 21, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the Mich. St. humor.

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 21, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Why are you apologizing to me?? I hate Notre Dame. Apologize to 4CF.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm very random with my apologies

sorry about that. :)

I'm feeling fiery, fiery, I tells ya! Who cares if I lose 10 in a row?

by Reynolds rapper on Sep 21, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

so on the bullpen front

we may have a lot more options than i originally thought, because i guess the comp pick for not signing loux is actually protected? i think that’s what the table of picks at mlbtraderumors implies….

if that’s true, then we could probably acquire two relievers easily. scott downs is a really good lefty. he has consistently good peripherals year in and year out for the blue jays. aardsma and jenks are people we might be able to acquire via trade/nontender respectively (and thus cheaper). i think aardsma’s walk rate is a bit too scary for me, but jenks would be a solid acquisition, as he’s just been unlucky with BABIP this year. if we want to go the free agency route, there is soriano, putz, benoit, and saito. if we could acquire two out of these six pitchers, i’d be so happy.

by blue bulldog on Sep 21, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

we get Jenks. He’s going to want an opportunity to close, and we can offer that.
I’m hoping for Benoit, too. If we get both, I think we’re looking at a pretty solid pen.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Sep 21, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Soriano?

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 21, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or would he be too expensive?

"A couple of years agoi was hitting 170 in 60 at bats and everybody was ready to kill me Guess what happened? Laser Show!

by BattleMoses on Sep 21, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yah,

I tend to think he’s slightly outside our price range.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Plus, Benoit could possibly be even better than Soriano, but much, much cheaper.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Sep 21, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we can get jenks and benoit

i think we’ll have a very strong bullpen. jenks, benoit, carrasco, demel, woodall, vasquez, and a lefty

that’s great

by blue bulldog on Sep 21, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

*passable

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 22, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

*good

I think, with Carrasco/Vasquez/Benoit/Jenks as our 6th/7th/8th/9th guys, it’s pretty good.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Sep 22, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

*it'd be

not “it’s”.

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 41

by Jdub220 on Sep 22, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe good.

I don’t think “great”, though.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Sep 22, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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