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Mark Week: The Future

Here at the AZSnakepit, we have a special power. We can see into.... THE FUTURE.

So, you thought Shark Mark Week was over, eh? BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

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Previously, on Mark Week -- we've discussed Mark's minor league numbers, we've looked at Mark's towering dingers, and we've uncovered objective evidence that Mark has been on a steady upward slope defensively. So what's left? Well, come with me, and we'll look into the crystal ball at Mark's future...

 

::cue wavy fingers and weird, high pitched noises::

Baseball-reference's similarity scores from the start of career until age 27 give us the ten most similar batters through Mark's current age, based on stats.

The player most similar? As has been well-publicized, not the least by Daron and Gracie, Mark's closest comparison is to former Philadelphia Phillie right-handed 3B Mike Schmidt. Schmidt led the league in both home runs AND strikeouts in 1974, 1975, 1976 AND 1983. Sound like anyone we know? In a Hall Of Fame career lasting 18 years, Schmidt drove in 548 home runs AND struck out 1883 times. For those keeping score at home, that's good for 7th on the all-time K list and 15th on the all-time HR list. Schmidt, however, led the league in homers WITHOUT leading in Ks in 1980, 1981, 1984 AND 1986. Sign of things to come?

It's certainly not an exact comparison. For the same years relative to his age that Mark's been in the league, Schmidt averaged 38 HRs and 150 Ks per 162 games, while Mark Reynolds has averaged 36 HRs and a shocking 221 Ks per 162 -- a total that would make Joe Morgan choke on his own vomit, could he read. Schmidt only struck out more than 150x per season ONCE, in 1975, with 180 whiffs. For the record, even in today's strikeout-happy climate, where 12 of the 20th highest single-season strikeout totals have been delivered by five active players (Mark, Ryan Howard, Jack Cust, Adam Dunn, and Jim Thome) Schmidt's 180K 1975 is still good for the 22nd highest single-season total in baseball history.

In rate stats, Schmidt's career OBP of .380 and career slugging % of .527 give us a total of .908 and an OPS+ of 147 for his career. Now, that's why he's a HOFer. Through Mark's age, Schmidt got on base at a .369 clip, as opposed to Mark's .338, but Schmidt's slugging % at .500 is only a bit ahead of Mark's .497. Schmidt's OPS edge through age 27 over Mark is .869 vs. .835 -- although park factors turn those numbers into a 138 OPS+ vs. 110, respectively. To Mark's age, Schmidt had averaged 97 walks per 162, while Mark's averaged 73.

On the other hand, while Schmidt may never have played in as HR-happy a park as Mark does, I would be selling our 3B short not to point out that Schmidt only passed Mark's 2009 HR total of 44 twice, in 1979 and 1980, with 45 and 48 bombs, respectively.

While it's certainly nice to have statistical proof linking Mark's career to a HOFer, and B-R puts Schmidt's numbers closest through Mark's age, active players on the list include Fernando Tatis, Edwin Encarnacion, and Pat Burrell. It's tough to see any similarity between Mark's numbers and Fernando Tatis', who has 11 seasons with an OPS+ of just above average, at 101, and 113 career HRs and 709 career Ks. Though Mark's entire career so far, he has exactly one more HR and one fewer K, so that seems rather unlikely, and Tatis is much more of an OBP guy. Encarnacion, a well-known Dbacks killer, (including 3 HRs in 3 straight ABs vs. Arizona earlier this year) has a career OPS+ of 103, but was DFA'd by Toronto earlier this season. Through six seasons, however, he's averaged 24 homers and 113 Ks per 162, so that's a little closer to Mark's numbers. Pat The Bat, to me, seems the closest comparison -- he's never hit more than 37 homers in a season, nor struck out more than 162x, but at Mark's age, he'd put up a career .348 OBP and .473 slugging % for an OPS of .821, but park factors put him ahead of Mark at a 114 OPS+ vs. Mark's 110. Burrell had a pretty good 9 year stretch for the Phillies, putting up a 119 OPS+ and 251 dingers, however, Burrell joined the Rays at age 32 last year and posted an OPS+ of just 77, with only 16 bombs in 146 games. After being DFA'd earlier this season, he's back in the NL, and slugging for the Giants.

So, can Mark raise his OBP and put up numbers similar to his oft-compared HOF predecessor? Will he have a pretty good, but not great, career like Burrell's, still in progress? Or will he flame out? Can he replicate last year's All-Star caliber numbers again? Will he hit a home run today? Why am I asking so many inane questions? Is it because I can?

The answer to these questions and others will be answered... well, in The Future.

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I got a question

why ain’t your email workin?

No crying in the Snakepit. That's what your apartment is for.

by soco on Aug 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Erryday

I’m hustlin

No crying in the Snakepit. That's what your apartment is for.

by soco on Aug 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Locked out.

Hacked. Something.

And apparently I don’t know enough about my own email account, because MSN didn’t validate my identity on my first attempt.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2010 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

....

hacked? again?

I thought that BS is done with a long time ago?

Try Salsa on pancakes. Seriously. It's yummy.

by katers on Aug 8, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

It was only happening every 2 or 3 weeks or so, and basically, all that would happen is that the asshole would somehow get into my Hotmail and change my password, and then change my Facebook password. I guess I didn’t contact MSN about it because I was always able to reset my password using my secret question, and I was discouraged by ****ing Gmail. When BOTH of my Gmail email accounts were hacked, they never even answered my freaking emails to them. Screw Google.

Now the asshole has gone nuclear, I guess, and gotten my original email account (seriously… had that one since like 2000) locked, and MSN says I still haven’t given them enough information for them to validate that I am, in fact, the owner of the account.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2010 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

...wow.

:-(

Try Salsa on pancakes. Seriously. It's yummy.

by katers on Aug 8, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone's

got a crush on yooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

No crying in the Snakepit. That's what your apartment is for.

by soco on Aug 8, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can somebody tell me

why I just bought a Bret Saberhagen bobblehead?

Bring back the Baltimore Chop!

by dima1109 on Aug 7, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Because

you love control guys? You’ve probably also got Dan Haren and Curt Schilling bobbleheads?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 8, 2010 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good column

Thanks for the legwork – I am excited about Reynolds’ future but the Schmidt comparisons are not really fair. Schmidt played in a SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult hitting era than now (however Veterans Stadium through the 70’s played as a hitter’s park too, albeit not as good as Chase). Schmidt put up better raw numbers even though it was a worse era for hitting. Reynolds hasn’t been nearly as good as Schmidt to this point in his career.

But Schmidt was HOFer. Reynolds doesn’t have to be Mike Schmidt to be a very good player for the DBacks. Good call on the Pat Burrell comp – if Reynolds can give the DBacks Pat Burrell numbers while playing average to above average defense, he is inordinately valuable.

I will say this – Reynolds has a very low BABIP this year due in large part to his drop in LD rate and increase in FB rate. If he gets that more in line and starts bringing the average up, his OPS will follow and he’s back to being a 950 OPS 3B with a good glove. Not many of those through history frankly.

Finally, I posted this list last year but here are all the players who have hit 40+ HR at age 25 or younger like Reynolds did last year:

Prince Fielder (2)
Mark Teixeira
Albert Pujols (3)
Adam Dunn (2)
Adrian Beltre
Troy Glaus (2)
A Rod (4)
Vlad (2)
Richard Hidalgo
Junior (2)
Frank Thomas
Juan Gonzalez (2)
Jose Canseco
Mark McGwire
Jim Rice
Johnny Bench (2)
Reggie Jackson
Dick Allen
Willie McCovey
Harmon Killebrew (2)
Orlando Cepeda
Rocky Colavito (2)
Hank Aaron
Mickey Mantle
Wally Post
Eddie Mathews (3)
Ernie Banks
Willie MAys (2)
Ralph Kiner (2)
Joe Dimaggio
Hal Trosky
Jimmie Foxx (2)
Chuck Klein (2)
Mel Ott
Lou Gehrig
Babe Ruth

by golfmanthee on Aug 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Dean Palmer

has always been the closest comp to Mark Reynolds in my mind. Of course Mark is unique in some ways. But Palmer is a similar offensive player, although he wasn’t as athletic as Mark.

You have to squint a little bit to see past the ballpark and era adjustments you need to make to their stats. But they both were high K home run guys that had mediocre OBP. Their OPS is very slugging heavy, and thru age 26, Palmer had a 110 OPS+, compared to Mark’s 109

by shoewizard on Aug 10, 2010 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

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