Webby Alert! Webby Alert!

by Mizzoula Osprey Fan on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 PM EDT

Don't know what this means but suspect we'll hear something about how this throwing session went. I would really like to see him pitch in a game or two this year to know where he stands. Call me an eternal optimist, but I still think he's got it and could really help our rotation. Has any one else heard what his progress has been and the results of todays throwing session?

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They talked about it in today's game

Seems like it went well – the only thing Webb said felt weird was pitching out of the stretch. I imagine we’ll see what happens over the next day or two and how he feels, but given we now have barely 30 games left, I’d still be quite surprised if we see him in a meaningful contest this season. Maybe he’ll pitch in the Arizona Fall League!

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by Jim McLennan on Aug 29, 2010 12:58 AM EDT reply actions

Wait...

The Diamondbacks play meaningful games?

by G.O.B. on Aug 31, 2010 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions

mean and full games

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by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

or Mean Unfull

Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all

by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't you mean The Injury?

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by justin1985 on Aug 29, 2010 1:10 AM EDT reply actions

Yeah, I was gonna say

*The Injury Alert! The Injury Alert!

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 29, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

apparently webb was ecstatic with the simulated game

mlb.com is reporting that his fastball is back to the low 80s, and stott claims his changeup is really good

who knows…maybe we’ll be trying to sign webb for cheap next year

by blue bulldog on Aug 29, 2010 1:31 AM EDT reply actions

I, for one,

Am getting really sick of Brandon Webb.

I’d sign him for nothing more than a minor league contract. Let him go.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 29, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

I'm not sick of him

…but I don’t want to see the team toss another $8 mil down the crapper for another year of “I’m feeling better and really excited, I should be on the mound in 6 weeks” announcements.

I say: if he’s a type A or B free agent, offer him arbitration and let him know he’s going to be lowballed. At least we’ll get something in return.

by venomfan on Aug 30, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions

He's not a type anything

And no reason to offer him arb even if he was – he’d accept and get $10MM+.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 30, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions

He's not a type A or B

Arbitration rankings are based on the last two years of baseball, and, obviously, he’s done nothing.

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by kishi on Aug 30, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not the least sick of him.

wish him nothing but the best no matter how it ends up with us.

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 29, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions

+1

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by Rockkstarr12 on Aug 29, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions

would we get compensation for him or no?

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by blank_38 on Aug 29, 2010 2:53 AM EDT reply actions

No

Since he hasn’t pitched for two seasons, save opening day last year, we won’t get any compensation.

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by kishi on Aug 29, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Wouldn't want to offer arbitration anyways.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 29, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions

maybe I'm just afraid to let go

but if he can prove he can throw the ball next year and we can sign him on the cheap, I’d like to keep him around. But I’m really into nostalgia so……..

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by JustAJ on Aug 29, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah...

I’d like to re-sign Brandon Webb, but I also like really cheesy Route 66 memorabilia.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 31, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions

You're

tacky and I hate you.

'Skins, I forbid you from hitting on Ramona!

by soco on Aug 31, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I can't help

who I am, soco.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 31, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

And as they say

it’s in your DNA?

And when something falls out of place, I take my time, I put it back.

by soco on Aug 31, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I still think if he’d accept a cheap incentive laden contract… he would be worth the risk… IF he shows he can pitch at least a little this year.. There is still tremendous upside… IF he can prove he’s healthy… but of course, that’s the biggest if………

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by GuruB on Aug 29, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions

i don't think anyone

would disagree with signing webb to a cheap incentive laden contract

those types of contracts are just rare

by blue bulldog on Aug 29, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions

True.

And Josh Byrnes never offered them for cost certainty reasons.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 29, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Jeff Moorad*

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

soco*

Wait, I’m not an owner.

Shit.

'Skins, I forbid you from hitting on Ramona!

by soco on Aug 29, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Was that

Moorad’s rule rather than Byrnes’?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 31, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Moorad liked cost certainty

Byrnes may have liked it as well, or taken it from Moorad, but I believe it was his brainchild.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 31, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

The Injury himself

might disagree.

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by 4 Corners Fan on Aug 30, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions

He IS

greedy, and he DOES hate Arizona.

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by soco on Aug 30, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions

According to MLBTR he says he wants to stay.

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by BattleMoses on Aug 30, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

There’s a better chance of that now than before, considering the injury history. I can’t imagine any other team (except maybe the Mets) offering a guy who’s been shelved two years a deal that ISN’T incentive laden.

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by Clefo on Aug 30, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

For

like a hojillian dollars.

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by soco on Aug 30, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

No, he'll stay

for a Hohokam. /bad joke

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by Reynolds rapper on Aug 31, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions

Jonathan Maurer back on the Intarwebz

Trying to build up his client’s value.

Webb won’t be signing cheaply. In an email to MLBTR, his agent Jonathan Maurer said: “Webb loves Arizona and they will be considered highly, but Brandon WILL be looking at an incentive-based contract [with] a guaranteed base where [Brad] Penny and [Rich] Harden at $7.5MM, [Ben] Sheets at $10MM and [Tim] Hudson’s $9.33MM average annual value are all conversation starters. Webb, when healthy, is one of the top pitchers in the game. Arizona is a great place to play, ([though] it has always been a hitter’s park, Webb has dominated there) but I anticipate significant interest in what is a very healthy Brandon Webb, with his signature life back on all his pitches.”

This sounds a lot like a guy who is gone but doesn’t want to burn the last bridge in case he finds that the market for his star isn’t anywhere remotely near where he thinks it is.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 30, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions

i posted this comment elsewhere

but i think there will be a market for webb. look at how much these other guys got, and next year’s starting pitching market is pretty weak outside of cliff lee.

i’m guessing that means webb will be able to get an 8 million with incentives one year contract.

if we somehow get webb for 8 million, and laroche for 8 million, combined with our arb raise guys (saunders, drew, kj, miggy) we would basically have our starting five pitchers and all our position players plus at least 3 relievers (carrasco, demel, vasquez) for around $53 million

while i do think webb for 8 million is a bit of a risk, and slightly more expensive than i would hope to get him at, it might be better than the other options, as next year’s starting pitching market is basically cliff lee and the rest

by blue bulldog on Aug 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

One issue that I see,

besides the obvious fact that we’re probably not competitive next year, is the fact that he’d so obviously just be using a one year contract to prove that he’s healthy in the hopes of a long-term FA deal starting in 2012.

I don’t like being used like that.

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by DbacksSkins on Aug 31, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Look at how much these other guys got

And how HORRIBLE all but one of them has been for their teams. Penny: hurt. Harden: hurt. Sheets: hurt. Hudson: epic. But Hudson’s deal was signed when he was intact.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, cliche cliche cliche.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 31, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

And you expect an agent to do any less?

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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 30, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Of course not

Just throwing up the latest word.

Maurer strikes me as fairly amateur at times.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 31, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Well

At least he’s moved up from posting fanposts here to e-mail MLBTR.

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by kishi on Aug 31, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I

was wondering if he was going to post on here any time soon. But probably not if he has read some of the posts.

I got nothin'.

by Bcawz on Aug 31, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions

It's funny

because it’s true?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 31, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions

i think

maurer is right about webb’s market value

i don’t see anything wrong with what he said

by blue bulldog on Aug 31, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I do.

It comes off as pompous and delusional to publicly announce something like that, and he’s going to destroy any reputation Webb had left in this state.

Is he right about Webb’s market value? Well, probably? But that also shows you how stupid those market forces are.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 31, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions