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SnakeBytes, 8/28: Barry and Goliath Edition

Barry Enright, huh?  I know there's some concern over whether or not he's really as good as the numbers he's been putting up so far this season.  To be honest?  I don't care.  That's a problem for FutureKishi to worry about.  PresentKishi is just going to take a moment to relax and enjoy how he's pitching right now.

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I could

go for another World Series in 2013, but preferably more consistently after that.

'Skins, I forbid you from hitting on Ramona!

by soco on Aug 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

best caption ever.

I should have a mfin theme song.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 28, 2010 5:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I feel like it continues the narrative nicely from the caption on last night’s recap.

"It's a fez. I'm wearing a fez now. Fezes are cool."

by kishi on Aug 28, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

The Great and Mighty....

by NASCARbernet on Aug 28, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That SI article is hysterically...well, hysterical
…it’s the sadness of an artist who is no longer able to paint, or a musician who suddenly can’t play a chord. What is lost is not just a game or a part of a career, but something on the outer edges of human achievement.

Really.

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Aug 28, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Surely you mean

Oh, the huge manatee

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Aug 28, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I usually like to imagine internet posters' real lives

away from comment boards. I do a pretty good job with all of you. I can’t picture one single person from over at azcentral. What do you imagine their day jobs are? Especially that bucky character. How bad can your real life be that you spend HOURS trolling another team that you aren’t a fan of’s comment boards? Diamondhacks, I can picture. Most everyone else’s nothing..

yep....

by JustAJ on Aug 28, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

"Hester, Church and Ojeda"

That’s gotta be a confidence builder: “Hey, see if you guys can hit off some dude who messed up his shoulder in a fishing accident that probably wasn’t on tape.”

Bad doormat! No stock options!

by Clefo on Aug 28, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

It’s probably as close to a stint in the minors as they can manage right now?

"It's a fez. I'm wearing a fez now. Fezes are cool."

by kishi on Aug 28, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

i was just thinking how they wanted the three crappiest hitters to face webb

by blue bulldog on Aug 28, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a fun piece

Should commentators mention no-hitters?

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Aug 28, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh

I think it’s best to just not mention it if you’re the broadcasting team for whatever team it is, completely fair game if you’re not. If you have to mention it (which, y’know, they probably should as announcers), just don’t use the exact phrase (like in the article, say “looking for their first hit” or something). In reality, I think we all know it doesn’t make any difference unless it’s mentioned to the pitcher, but it just seems like if there’s a word people prefer you don’t use, find a different way to describe it, silly as it is.

My value over a replacement poster is approximately 10.5 runs.

by Wailord on Aug 28, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

for some reason

i think it’s really cool to hear players talking about each other the way enright and buster were. like…they are still competing against each other, but they have plenty of respect for each other’s skills

detroit definitely made out on this deal. there’s just no denying that. they gave up edwin jackson and curtis granderson and got austin jackson, max scherzer, and phil coke back. which means they got younger and cheaper while potentially upgrading, and if not, at least staying the same.

however just because detroit made out, doesn’t mean the deal was necessarily bad for us. i think we got EXTREMELY lucky to get hudson and holmberg for jackson. if that didn’t happen, this trade probably turned out poorly for us. but since it did, it essentially makes the trade a plus for us.

naturally, yankees sucked up the trade. all they got was curtis granderson, and they gave up austin jackson, phil coke and ian kennedy for him

by blue bulldog on Aug 28, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

much higher on IPK now than I was initially

still he’s a #3 at best. But for Scherzer we got a #3 and #2/#3 in Hudson and a potential starting arm in Holmberg. Not a bad haul for a starter and a reliever who probably won’t stick in the majors because of control issues.

yep....

by JustAJ on Aug 28, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to see Boyer

moved into the rotation as #4 next year. I think he could be a very effective starter.

The Great and Mighty....

by NASCARbernet on Aug 28, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i actually think i'm less higher on IPK

now than i initially was haha. but i think i had way too high expectations. i thought he was going to be like a dan hudson based on his minor league track record

unless IPK’s fastball improves, he’s like a number 4 starter IMO

i still think we lucked out in getting hudson….i still have no idea why the white sox were willing to give us two of their top 10 prospects for a year and a half of jackson. i agree, that is a great haul, but i don’t think we were expecting to flip jackson for such a haul when we first got him

also, i hope scherzer does well and can stick in the majors. he has some crazy good stuff

by blue bulldog on Aug 28, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was speaking more on Schlereth with control issues

I’m rooting hard for Scherzer to be a stud closer one day

yep....

by JustAJ on Aug 28, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schlereth's sort of improved

and there have been times this year where i wish he was still in the bullpen (usually when someone else is walking the park)

by morineko on Aug 28, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

"105 mile per hour pitch"

I don’t know if it really happened or not, but it’s moronic to emphasize such a pitch. I know its about marketing. Since the juice isn’t hitting home runs anymore, I guess the Baseball Elders now have another marketing plow – high fastballs. This kid will be encouraged to muscle up, and will like every other hard thrower, blow his arm out.

The Great and Mighty....

by NASCARbernet on Aug 28, 2010 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

What struck me about that story

was that, firstly, I’ve seen some pretty faulty radar gun readings before, and secondly, how the Hell long can he throw 100+ MPH before something absolutely terrible happens to his arm? I mean, think, Joel Zumaya terrible.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Aug 28, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Several pitcher definitely reached above 100

Ryan, Randy and J.R. Richard. Richard was probably the hardest thrower I ever saw, but for him, it was an easy motion. He was 6’8" 250, and had a very smooth delivery to go with it, which meant less wear and tear. But what bothers me here is that baseball’s golden child blows his arm out his first season, and these guys are trying to market the next one already. It’s shameful, really.

A pitcher with excellent control, a good pitching mind, and a consistent 95 mph fastball will have a real career. I’m talking about John Smoltz.

The Great and Mighty....

by NASCARbernet on Aug 28, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

my personal hierarchy of pitching

is that movement is the most important. then it’s command. and finally, it’s speed.

i think you can have a ton of success (hopefully dan hudson) when you have a ton of movement on your fastball (even if you only throw it at 92) and you have a dirty change that can locate for strikes

i do think strasburg is amazing, but my only beef on him is that his fastball doesn’t have that much movement

by blue bulldog on Aug 28, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you throw that fast, it's usually straight as a string

good ol’ Kyle Farnsworth fastball, usually comes with a flight attendant and baggage

Strasburg’s bonus feature was the curveball.

by morineko on Aug 28, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

they only make one of those a generation

and I don’t think this one has got one of those yet. Usually the thing with pitchers is location, speed, and ball smarts: pick two.

fastest pitchers I’ve seen in-person are Joel Zumaya, Derrick Turnbow, and Seth McClung—all of whom have had or are having horrific injuries right now. note, all of them are or became relievers, and McClung and Strasburg are incredibly similar, as in max-effort starters having to have TJ at age 23.
(I don’t see many fast pitchers, this comes of living in Minnesota; the Twins would rather have the Barry Enrights of the world on their roster and I can’t say I blame them—and Brad Radke still blew out his arm)

by morineko on Aug 28, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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