SnakeBytes, 7/4: Declaration of Independence
Hey, they're announcing the All-Star Team this afternoon! I'm sure you're just as excited as I am to discover which Diamondback has made the team whether the divine genius of La Strasburg has been rightfully honored by those barely barely worthy of refilling his rosin-bag. In the meantime, there's a game of baseball this afternoon: well, assuming Arizona show up for it, because they sure as hell didn't last night. The following recaps are rated NC-17 for extreme blundering and harsh incompetence...
After the jump, more background rumblings on what might have been behind the departure of Josh Byrnes, news about Brandon Webb, and some last thoughts from AJ Hinch.
Recaps
- [Yahoo!] Six Arizona errors help Dodgers to 14-1 rout - "The new manager had catcher Chris Snyder (.238, nine homers, 28 RBIs) batting cleanup. Snyder was 1 for 4 with three strikeouts. Gibson had said one reason for that move was "shock value."" Well, I think the game certainly left AZ fans truly shocked...
- [AZCentral] Diamondbacks routed by Dodgers, set team record with 6 errors - "Leading 6-0, the Dodgers scored in each of the next four innings, resulting in boos from the home crowd. Arizona's three errors in the third tied a franchise record for most errors in an inning. By night's end, a routine ground ball fielded cleanly generated as much applause as most anything else. Making matters worse: The Diamondbacks struck out 12 times."
- [dbacks.com] Franchise-record six errors doom D-backs - "The game shifted in the second inning with two Arizona fielding errors, one Dodger walking on three balls and another illegally passing a teammate on the basepaths, all leading to six Los Angeles runs against tough-luck starter Rodrigo Lopez."
- [True Blue LA] Comedy of Errors leads to Dodgers Laugher - "There are times to get Broxton an inning of work when he actually has some value to the team, rather than in a game that has already been decided, with eight games in their next eight days. Call me crazy, but I want the Dodgers best reliever to be used in high-leverage situations."
Team News
- [FoxSportsArizona.com] Tangled in a web of small-market reality - "You can nitpick some of Byrnes’ baseball decisions – the long-term extension to Eric Byrnes, the decision to pick up Webb’s 2010 option, the decision to save resources by trading Jose Valverde – but small-market teams are only as good their players and the money committed to them."
- [AZCentral] Sources: Byrnes-Hall rift in running Diamondbacks helped get GM fired - "The case for firing Josh Byrnes as Diamondbacks general manager was made by ownership Friday morning, with everything from simple wins and losses, shoddy relief work and a barren farm system cited as reasons. But those close to the situation insist the deteriorating relationship between Byrnes and Diamondbacks President and CEO Derrick Hall had more to do with Byrnes' dismissal."
- [dbacks.com] Youngblood to join D-backs as coach - "Former Major Leaguer Joel Youngblood will join the D-backs' coaching staff Saturday. The D-backs are expected to announce Saturday evening that Youngblood will take over as third-base coach, with Bo Porter moving from third to bench coach, a spot previously occupied by interim manager Kirk Gibson. "
- [AZCentral] Rough time for Arizona's professional sports owners - "This is not an easy business," Kendrick said. "I've said this (before). When I got involved in it, I thought it would be hard. I can say honestly I didn't think it would be this hard."
- [The Canadian Press] Webb says something clicked, hopes to return for 6-8 starts - Smiling and optimistic as he talked to reporters outside his locker, he said his trademark sinker ball, one of the best in baseball, is back. "It's totally the same, I think," Webb said. "It's been good. When I stay behind the ball and get on top, it's definitely there."
- [AZCentral] Hinch won’t entertain what-ifs on way out - "When I chose the accept the job and made the commitment to change courses in my career I really thought it was the right thing to do and I really thought things were going to be better and I could be a part of the solution," Hinch said. "Regardless of the breakdowns of why we’ve lost so many games or the direction this team was heading, I can’t really live in that world of ‘if this’ or ‘if that.’ I certainly wish things would have been different."
Around the Vuvuzela, Featuring Your 2011 All-Star (Provisional), Stephen Strasbug
- [Sacramento Bee] Strasburg belongs on Baseball All-Star team - "If you think there are 13 pitchers who are better than Strasburg right now, I'd have to argue vehemently. Incredibly, the National League hasn't won this game since 1996. It needs to put its best players on the field. Right now, Strasburg is easily one of its best players."
- [ESPN] Let's not give All Star spots to what people might do - - "Forgive me if I'm not riding shotgun on the Strasburg Belongs in the All-Star Game bandwagon. If he's truly as good as the hype, we'll see him in plenty of All-Star Games after this year."
- [ESPN New York] As New York Yankees legendary owner George Steinbrenner turns 80, we look back at his days in pinstripes - The late Cardinals announcer Jack Buck once quipped that he had seen Steinbrenner's personal yacht and, "It was a beautiful thing to observe, all 36 oars working in unison."
- [AP] Jimenez not sharp, Giants beat Rockies 11-8 - "Jimenez's ERA has jumped from 1.15 to 2.27 in his last three starts, during which he's allowed 17 earned runs in 17 2-3 innings. He has a win and two no-decisions in that span thanks to an offense that keeps bailing him out."
- [TwinCities.com] Strange grand slam leaves Minnesota Twins with shocking 8-6 loss - "In a span of one inning, one gut-wrenching, when-will-it-stop inning, the Twins' bullpen flipped a three-run lead into an epic flop. They did it by giving up seven runs, four of them coming on the hit that brought Guerrier to his knees — a Joyce pinch-hit grand slam to dead center field that no one saw coming even after the ball was hit. "I thought it was a pop fly to center," manager Ron Gardenhire said. "We've seen that too many times here."" Welcome to our world, Ron...
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Not even this afternoon
It’s 9AM and they’ve got the selection show on. WTF? IT’S 9AM!!
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Did anyone else catch this?
What do you do when Xavier Paul has three balls?
I was at the game and because he fell down at the plate, I thought he was hit. then they ruled it BB, but didn’t realize that was only Ball 3.
Wouldn’t have made a bit of difference in the outcome of the game… we all know that but just curious if anyone had caught it?
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jul 4, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
NL pitchers
Halliday, PHI
Johnson, FL
Lincecum, SF
Hudson, ATL
Broxton, LAD
Rhodes, CIN
Wainwright, STL
Carpenter, STL
Wilson, SF
Meek, PIT
Jimenez, COL
Capps, WAS
Gallardo, MIL
No Strasburg, but maybe he’s on the fan vote list TBA.
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Really?
I was betting he would be our all-star. Upton, Reynolds haven’t performed. Kelly Johnson had a good first month… but…
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I've
been looking at how a player has played relative to the field. KJ and Drew are still near the top of their class in their respective positions, whereas there were a handful above CY.
BUT, I’m glad for him, and is a guy I do want to see represent this team. He’s been with us for quite a while, developed the D’backs, struggled with them, and finally recovered with them.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
+1
I am so happy for CY! He deserves to be there!
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
by Rockkstarr12 on Jul 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
NL reserves
Chris Young, AZ GOOD for him. I was betting that he would be our representative. (They didn’t say he’s our only rep, but Steve Gilbert did)
Omar Infante, ATL
Brian McCann, ATL
Martin Prado, ATL (will replace Utley as starter)
Marlon Bryd, CHC
Brandon Phillips, CIN
Scott Rolen, CIN
Michael Bourn, HOU
Corey Hart, MIL
Jose Reyes, NYM (they said he will replace Tulowitzki… but Tulo wasn’t voted in?)
Ryan Howard, PHI
Matt Holliday, STL
Adrian Gonzalez, SDG
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According to MLB.com
Tulo WAS voted in
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
And was immediately awarded a triple
By the Coors Field scorer…
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
Oh, but not by the fans
he was voted in by the players. Even though he was injured? Man, how early do the players vote
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Must be pretty early
Is all I can think. They must have voted him in BEFORE the injury, possibly?
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
Yeah, that's why I was confused
because his injury was, what, 2-3 weeks ago??
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Yep
It’s still quite an honor to be voted in, especially by your peers as well as if voted by the fans :)
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
Manuel explaining leaving out Strasburg
“He’s only got 5 starts, leave the kid alone, let him get broken into the ML, he’ll be an allstar for years to come.”
THANK YOU for using actual reason.
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+1
Amen to that!
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
by Rockkstarr12 on Jul 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I was already writing one.
I’m really happy for him.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
Okay, that works
I can front-page it for you.
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Then I'll leave the rest
of my ASG ramblings for your post. So hurry up. :P
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
WAIT
See below
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ready set go!
First one to be published wins………
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If you really are working on one
you could edit Jdub’s and add in your info. :)
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I didn’t have anything special planned, so I’ll let him work his magic, and then pretty it up if needed.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Sounds like a plan...
I’ll leave it to you! :)
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
JDub
I just put up a placeholder post until yours is ready to go. When I see it, I’ll delete mine and front-page yours.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
This is a very good idea, thank you!
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
Don’t do that, since you already tweeted yours, so we can keep the URL and so people can write in it and we can promote it beyond.
Copy his analysis into your post, then delete his..
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Do this do this do this!
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
THANK YOU! :)
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What about the comments that are already in Jdub's thread?
I would just copy and past mine, but I wouldn’t want to get a warning from Your Highness.
Nice strikeout!
Too bad so sad :P
Yes, just repaste yours
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Soooooooo
should I delete his original post now? I kept it with the fanposts.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Sorry
I wanted to keep yours to keep you in the byline, but I was overruled.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Actually if you hadn't tweeted it
I would’ve had no problem with it. :) But, once the tweet got out there – jim’s account is followed by some prominent baseball writers and other sports accounts, so….
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
but the only reason I wanted to get a placeholder up (and tweet it) was to get traffic moving towards the ‘Pit. I wasn’t sure how long Jdub was going to take, and so like Suarez intentionally getting a handball against Ghana, I had to make a decision.
Are…are you giving me a red card :(
Quit drooling, vote for me.
In other words
It became necessary to destroy the Chris Young story, in order to save it…
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
LOL
No. I totally agree with you on getting the story up sooner rather than later. It’s a good decision, and the content is the same ,the only thing that is different is the byline. Which used to happen to me all the time when I started GDTs that Jim wrote. ;)
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A fanpost is different from a story
A story – which soco and I can create – has more options, like sending it to AP/Yahoo etc. So, soco created a story and tweeted the link, which went to the Snakepit’s twitter account. Well, once he did that, we don’t want to delete that link.
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No,
I was just confused as to why there were two things up.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
Because you were slow
and we were impatient. ;) Yeah it was just to get traffic flowing. If I had been more awake, I would’ve had something ready as soon as the announcement had been made.
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Boo.
They don’t have wOBA. And it’s totally confusing. And generally SLOWER than Fangraphs.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
Banning's too good for you
Fortunately, our SnakePit nuclear weapons program has not yet reached fruition…
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
Or has it?
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by 4 Corners Fan on Jul 4, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Until Iran starts taking some of the pressure off of us
It has officially not yet reached fruition.
So long, ol' Muppet arms.
Yeah, go ahead
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, Steve Gilbert's writing one now
I could just front-page a fanshot for it?
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
the terrorists win if we write our own stories?
That sounds like something a terrorist would say!
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Since you're here
Take a look at the “story” in the recent fanshots….. should I just leave it there? ….
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
there’s nothing wrong there, beyond that it’s incoherent, and the guy isn’t an alt. I wasn’t planning on doing anything.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
I was only thinking of changing the title
not to be sort of deceptive? I guess not tho.
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that was going to be my quick fix
but since ya’ll are around, I don’t have to. :)
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by snakecharmer on Jul 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Morning, folks
I’m staying out of this one, and going back to bed to watch The Haunted World of El Superbeasto [NSFW, if you couldn’t guess]. I’m sure you’ll get it sorted!
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
1/Johnson/2B; 2/Drew/SS; 3/Upton/RF; 4/Montero/C; 5/Young/CF; 6/LaRoche/1B; 7/Reynolds/3B; 8/Parra/LF; 9/Haren/RHP
Nice strikeout!
On DBBP,
someone proposed a theory saying the that yesterdays lineup was part of an evaluation process by Gibby. There’s almost no way LA has that big inning with an infield of Drew, Johnson, and LaRoche. Then again, Lopez wasn’t doing himself or anybody any favors.
Nice strikeout!
Then again,
That poster also said he had a source tell him we were trading for Pujols last offseason. No, it wasn’t THE SHADOW.
Nice strikeout!
He said that we were trading for Pujols?
Really? Bond had to have been joking.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
Yeah. Could have been the previous offseason.
He only told us about it because he thought it was a ridiculous claim. I just like giving him crap over it.
Nice strikeout!
It was also a lefty-pitcher lineup
and Drew’s knee was still a question. I agree though, I think 4 of those errors were on Abreu…..
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Ryal didn't look to good at 1B either. Might as well of had Gehrig's decaying body out there.
Nice strikeout!
Uhh... mean :P
but yeah, he did not look good. I wanted them to move Ryal to short and put in LaRoche, lefty be damned, just to stop the bleeding.
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News from Steve Gilbert
LHP Jordan Norberto has a locker and is in the #Dbacks clubhouse. No word yet on a roster move to make room for him.
That’s news… Please tell me Boyer was DdFA!!
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And I don't get
why Hinch liked Boyer so much.
It seemed that AJ was the only reason he was there.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
I honestly don't know
I never heard anything about AJ liking Boyer, can’t assume that. There was probably a baseball reason, like, nobody else available.
Norberto has struggled up here so I’m not completely wild about the move but I also don’t like Boyer. (As a pitcher. He’s a nice guy.)
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AJ used him pretty often,
and in situations that he shouldn’t have.
There are pitchers that are better than Boyer. I’m not sure it would make a difference in the result, but…
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
Not Boyer; Dontrelle
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/dbacks-designate-dontrelle-willis-for-assignment.html
Niiko’s getting a fanpost up.
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Alllllrighty, wellll........
The fanshot can stay, but I will probably FP the fanpost.
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Okay,
just making sure of your rules of double posts.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
There aren't realllly rules, it's just kind of sense
Unless there are multiples of the same KIND – like 3 fanposts – but you guys did two different things. And often the main story will get all the attention anyway. I.E. We didn’t hide the fanpost about A.J. and Josh.
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
And in this case
since it’s bigger news, making a story with more analysis makes more sense than just front-paging a link. (Fanposts and stories in general generate more traffic than a fanshot.) But I was initially going to do that too so it’s not a bad thought. And it sometimes depends on who is around to write and/or promote things. :)
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I wasn't asking to have my Fanshot FP'd.
More asking if I should delete it.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 27
Oh I know
I was just explaining the logic. :) You can keep it. When stories fall off the front page, the fanshot will often stay there longer.
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OKAY, NO MORE NEWS TODAY
I’mma go get ready for my parrrrrrtaaaaaaaay………
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