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Diamondbacks 5, Braves 7: Blaine Boyer, BBs, Braves' Best Buddies

Joe West explains Rule 8.02, and Blaine Boyer's breaking thereof, to AJ Hinch.

Record: 23-36. Pace: 63-99. Change on last season: -2. Change on 2004: 0

8.02
The pitcher shall not --
(a) (1) Bring his pitching hand in contact with his mouth or lips while in the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitching rubber....
PENALTY: For violation of this part of this rule the umpires shall immediately call a ball.
   -- Official rules of baseball

Add another to the list of... interesting, shall we say, things the Diamondbacks have taught us this season. A violation of the rule cited above by Blaine Boyer in the seventh inning, going to his mouth and then straight to the ball, was immediately flagged by the first-base umpire. With the count being 3-0, that led to an automatic walk, which helped the Braves score the go-ahead run. Sure, we might not have won anyway, but it certainly didn't help, and is a pretty-accurate summary of the way our season has gone.

 

Star-divide

Walks were a real problem for the Diamondbacks throughout this evening - in particular, the two handed out to the opposing pitcher by Edwin Jackson. It's the first time we've done that since Jeff Suppan walked twice for the Cardinals in September 2006, and the second of them was particular damaging. It came with two out on the sixth, on four straight balls, and instead of the inning being over, the next two batters both singled and the Braves tied it up. See also the eighth inning, where Esmerling Vasquez walked the lead-off man, who came round to score and give Atlanta the lead once again.

It was that kind of game, with never more than one run separating the teams almost all the way through the game. The Braves took the lead in the first on three hits, but the Diamondbacks answered right back, with a pair of solo home-runs by Kelly Johnson and Justin Upton - curiously, both of which clanged loudly off the left-field foul-pole. Atlanta then countered right back with two runs of their own, in part thanks to a wild pitch by Jackson - his National League leading ninth of the season. But a Mark Reynolds home-run, onto the balcony in right-center field, tied things up at three apiece.

So things continued. As soon as one team scored, the other answered back immediately, with no team holding the lead through the next half-inning until the bottom of the eighth, when Arizona could answer back after Atlanta took the lead on two walks and a double off Vasquez. The ninth saw the return of Juan Gutierrez, who had largely been the forgotten - or, perhaps more accurately, ignored - man in the bullpen, having only thrown six in-game pitches since May 26th. It did not go too well: two hits, a walk and a run-scoring wild pitch gave the Braves an insurance tally, the first gap of more than one run either way, in the middle of the ninth.

It wasn't a great start overall by Jackson, who just didn't seem to have control of his stuff to the degree we saw last time out in Los Angeles. The Braves, particularly early on, seemed to be teeing off with abandon on his slider, though there were some interesting hits on balls out of the zone. None more so than Infante's swipe at a ball that might have knocked his helmet off, if he hadn't swung at it, that somehow floated down the left-field line to score a run. Jackson's final line was four runs, all earned, on nine hits and three walks over six innings. He threw 110 pitches, which if my math is right, moves him up to fourth-most in the NL this year [Dan Haren is #1]

Seriously out-hit by the Braves, 14-7; while we did have three home-runs to their zero, all of ours were solo shots. Johnson had a good night against his old team, getting three hits and driving in three runs, but Reynolds was the only other batter for the Diamondbacks to reach more than once, with a walk to add to his home-run, leading off the ninth inning. That brought the tying run the plate, but we couldn't get anything more against Billy Wagner,. who impolitely refused to repay Chad Qualls in kind for his wildness last night, retiring the next three batters without any further difficulty.

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[Click to enlarge, at fangraphs.com]
Master of his domain: Kelly Johnson, +34.5%
Honorable mention: Mark Reynolds, +13.4%
God-emperor of suck: Esmerling Vasquez, -17.2%
Dishonorable mentions: Drew, -15.6%; LaRoche, -15.1; Boyer, -11.8%

800 comments on the nose, with 'skins the only man in three figures - Wailord reached the nineties, while unnamedDBacksfan fell just short of eighty. Also present: BattleMoses, hotclaws, kishi, snakecharmer, Jim McLennan, Clefo, Jdub220, dima1109, MidnghtDrgn, AJforAZ, pygalgia, katers, BigPapaKishi, skoormit, venomfan, You'veBeenBannedFromAzSnakepit, Bryan J. Boltik, mrssoco, Wimb, 4 Corners Fan, Scott Howard, marionette and Jargamus Prime, so thanks to them for their input. Only a couple of green comments this evening - I'll go back to reminding you to use the 'Rec' button tomorrow night, I think - but a worthy winner, courtesy of Clefo:

UPTON!
HOMER! SENTENCE FRAGMENTS! JUST PHRASES!

by Clefo on Jun 8, 2010 7:01 PM MST

We reconvene tomorrow night; I'll be watching the game from the press-box at Chase, as I'm guesting on Fox Sport Arizona's webchat with Jack Magruder. More on that tomorrow. Much more. Trust me on that. :-)

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Can I please get

a walk off defensive indifference?

Also, DFA Gutierrez.

No Gutierrez, Sherlock!

by Reynolds rapper on Jun 9, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

What I experienced at the game today:

- My first time ever booing a D-Back. I graciously gave in and showed Juan Gutierrez how I truly felt about him.

- Yelling “finish him” about ten times only to be let down every single time.

- Made obscene gestures that are similar to the chop. Braves fans didn’t think it was funny.

- Told Joe West that everything was his fault. On one occasion, I blamed everything on him. i.e. “I just spilled my beer, Joe West! Why did you make me do that Joe?”

- Got Joe West to wave in my direction and it turns out that he was actually, sort of, kind of cool. I still hate him though.

- Booed Guti even on my drive home.

- Tried to talk to Blaine Boyer during BP but he went straight to the women who were next to me. At least he has good taste.

- Carlos Rosa was using a pink backpack when he made his way to the bullpen. I love hazing.

- If you saw a guy in a banana costume, I was behind him. It also turned out that he was a highschool buddy of mine that I hadn’t seen in a long time.

- Enjoyed a wave and beach ball free game.

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Jun 9, 2010 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw flag lady

hit an usher when he tried to get her to lower the flag.

No Gutierrez, Sherlock!

by Reynolds rapper on Jun 9, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

You mean, intentionally? That’s bizarre. All I go to see was a banana costume.

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Jun 9, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was more of a swat away,

she was down near banana man on the 3rd base side. My mom can’t stand her. Whenever I take my mom, I get to hear about how flag lady cut her in line. Tonight confirmed my mom’s opinion in her mind.

No Gutierrez, Sherlock!

by Reynolds rapper on Jun 9, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh

That lady. She had something like a blue and black flag, right?

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Jun 9, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

She usually has a DBack-ish

flag, one with the D and I think the flag you describe. She has a rack with like 6 flags in it.

No Gutierrez, Sherlock!

by Reynolds rapper on Jun 9, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of flag lady,

Emily, did you ever upload my Superfan Susan impression?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i tried

but it didn’t save. :(

I should have a mfin theme song.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 9, 2010 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Aww. Lame.

Run out of memory?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno.

Either way, I sent that one back today. :(

I should have a mfin theme song.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 9, 2010 4:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Awwwww man...

I was dying to see his impression of Manly Voice! That sucks it didn’t save :(

"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden

by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 9, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flag Lady Cindy

Is actually a very nice person. The players love her and those of us who have gotten to know her through the years love her. She is one of the most enthusiastic fans I’ve ever met (and befriended). She has a flag she has handmade for all the players. She’s even had them sign theirs and they love the flags.

"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden

by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 9, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing like seeing old friends

and finding out years later that they’re nuts who wear banana costumes to baseball games.

Not that I’m saying your friend is crazy, I’m just saying that isn’t a very good (new) first impression. Or strange at the very least…

Did you remember to ask him what time it was?

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20

by Jdub220 on Jun 9, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Peter looks

so sad

Must (secretly) be a DBacks fan.

too soon?

I should have a mfin theme song.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 9, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was when my five year-old nephew was singing the Peanut Butter Jelly Time song that I realized that, as much of my generation was raised by television, his generation will be raised by the internet.

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sprankton

Where were you sitting?

My friend and I were in 134 row 19 right on the end (11 and 12) and we sure had some Braves fans in the next section over…

"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden

by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 9, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

why does

guti suck?

why does blaine boyer suck?

why does edwin walk the opposing pitcher TWICE?

why do we still choose to allow crappy bullpen pitchers go out to pitch?

baseball makes me so sad sometimes…….ugh i wish we had luke gregerson. is that blasphemous to wish a padre were on your team?

by blue bulldog on Jun 9, 2010 3:13 AM EDT reply actions  

one more question...

why on earth is charlie brewer still at south bend?

by blue bulldog on Jun 9, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

But

Do we have non-crappy bullpen pitchers to send out instead?

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

And

Yes, it is blasphemous to wish you had a Padre on your team. In penance, sing Take Me Out to the Ballgame five times. Go forth and blaspheme no more.

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Charlie Brewer

Has only started 11 games at South Bend. While a call-up to Mobile is probably soon to come, it’s too soon to start complaining about it. There’s nothing wrong with seasoning a pitcher. Take Brandon Webb for example – he pitched over 170 innings with South Bend and Lancaster (aged 21-22) before being promoted to AA.

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Jun 9, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another Byrnes Moment

Thanks to Josh Byrnes for bring Blaine Boyer up from Reno, another Brilliant Byrnes Move. Why not trade him to somebody you hate along with most of the rest of the bullpen?

by JV Co on Jun 9, 2010 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Would you

rather have had Saul Rivera?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon, 'Skins

Everyone knows that you always stick with the guy with the ERA over 20.

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is that JB's fault?

Boyer pitched well in the minors, and Rivera sucked.

I’d blame AJ for putting Boyer in that kind of spot though…

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20

by Jdub220 on Jun 9, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bases empty in a tie game?

If Boyer can’t handle that position, he should find a new line of work.

The kind of rookie mistake he made is really the fault of no one but Boyer.

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

On the bright side

We’re, apparently, only 3 games under .500

:P

Bad doormat! No stock options!

by Clefo on Jun 9, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I was

just about to make a comment about that.

Fixed.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mentioned this in the GDT,

but at one point the camera showed Turambar sitting in the crowd.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

camera never shows

eD.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

the cameraman’s probably scared that he’ll get destroyed if there’s any proof of your existence.

by Azreous on Jun 9, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mrs Snakepit

begs to differ?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah

In a fight, my money is on Mrs. Snakepit.

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

She would just toss some

pinwheel/tortillas wraps on the florr and when I jumped on my gut to eat ’em she would attack with suck a force that the UN would have to sanction and condem her.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I LOL'd.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Photographic evidence

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/371722/snakepit1.jpg

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

videos

bro…videos. like being seen in the stands etc. not still digital pics. cmon.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next time...

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually,

did snakecharmer ever post her tivo’d shot of us on TV?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

everytime were on TV snakecharmer sees it , tells us she saw it and recorded it, promises to post it then falls into a black hole.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF, Jenny??

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didnt wanna say

anything cuz im new bro.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

She really should do a better job of avoiding black holes.

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

or offering to upload

some shit for us then never come through. GOSH.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I mean, look at this. She’s not even trying.

by Azreous on Jun 9, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

great.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skins; No, not Saul Rivera

Just some body who knows how to pitch. Was Hinch right in putting Boyer in, well he didn’t know, Boyer was doing good in AAA, maybe that is the heighth of his success. Rivera isn’t the answer either. Do we have good coaching for pitchers in Reno? Well good enough to teach pitchers at the triple A level, but aren’t they supposed to go to the Show?
I liked Bobby Cox on the Strasberg kid, “If he is burning up the minors, why not let him try the bigs.”

by JV Co on Jun 9, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

When every pitcher in our bullpen has failed so often and completely

Is there really a good option to go with?

"If it is one minute late, I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love with that kitty cat. And then on some dark cold night I will steal away into your home and punch you in the face."

by kishi on Jun 9, 2010 2:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The difference is

We don’t have a Strasburg. Comparing our bullpen situation to a one time only phenom isn’t helping anybody.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by luckycc on Jun 9, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

we don’t exactly HAVE anyone “burning up the minors”.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that rule often-called?

‘Cause I see pitchers do it all the time, unless I’m misunderstanding it. After a pitch, they’ll touch their hand to their tongues. Is that allowed?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 9, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I see that too

but I think they lick their fingers then wipe it off on their pants b4 they touch the ball.

Knock me out. Smash out my brains.

by edbigghead on Jun 9, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's usually how it goes

but Jim’s clarification on the rule is “Bring his pitching hand in contact with his mouth or lips while in the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitching rubber….”.

Actually, reading closer, I see it was just a matter of paraphrasing. I guess it makes sense.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 9, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recall

in 2002 or so Miguel Batista getting called for the same infraction.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things I experienced at last night's game

~Sprankton’s buddy The Banana Man, who made the Jumbotron a few times

~Edwin Jackson get pissed off and toss his glove clear acrossed the dugout when he came off the field in what turned out to be his final inning of the night

~Got a picture taken with The Green Lantern during batting practice…he is such an awesome guy!

~Got Ryan Roberts to sign my DBacks Yearbook, also during BP

~Got to visit with Augie before and after the game

~Heard lots of smack talk from Braves fans around where Yolanda & I were sitting (section 134)…which also reminds me…Yolanda sat near the Snakepit Crew on Saturday night and commented on how much fun you all were having, then proceeded to tell me about all the Spilly bashing

~Came away with a white DBACKS t-shirt Baxter launched into our section (mine was the first one he tossed)

~Took some decent pix and got a few of Conor for Ella :)

"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden

by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 9, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

What did

Yolanda say?? Details, details!

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 9, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

She was telling me

What a rowdy bunch you all were, but in a GOOD, fun way. She said Spilly was the unfortunate victim of lots of cat calls, bashing, and total unadulterated remarks LOL I said that I am a member of the Snakepit too and she said even she knows I wouldn’t have said a word about Spilly if I would have sat there since she knows he’s a favourite of mine. I told her you guys are all a pretty good group and she said it was like a BIG party in that section that night. She said the whole section seemed to enjoy you guys.

"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden

by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 9, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAH!

Yeah, sounds about right.

We were actually joking about getting Spilly’s autograph after the game if we saw him.

Some people around us seemed to be having fun, such as the dude across the aisle who joined in our Spillyheckling, whereas some AARP members seemed annoyed that our loudness was violating their sacred baseball game silence.

Then, of course, there was the infamous girl in the Tulowitzki jersey… I daresay she wasn’t enjoying us. But not for long.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Sprankton!

I got a picture of your buddy in the banana suit shown on the jumbotron last night!

"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden

by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 9, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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