2010 Diamondbacks Draft: Open Thread
by Jim McLennan on Jun 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT
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PrintThe 2010 baseball draft starts today, and the Diamondbacks have the 6th pick, the highest they have had since taking Justin Upton with the #1 overall selection in the 2005 draft. The baseball draft is never such a big thing as the NBA or NFL draft, because it doesn't have an immediate impact on the team - sometimes, it's players outside the top round who turn out to have the biggest impact. For instance, Albert Pujols was a 13th-round pick in 1999, fourteen slots after the Diamondbacks picked Jesse Harper. And if you said, "Who?" there, you're not alone...
The 2010 draft won't be as big a deal for the team as last year, when we had a couple of fistfuls of picks in the early rounds, due to the losses of a number of free agents. That was the case last off-season, so we will have to wait more than fifty spots after our first-round pick, at #6, before we see any more action, all the way down at #57. This draft goes on for the next three days, so this thread will cover analysis of the top picks, and any other interesting nuggets from further down. Please post links to scouting reports, etc. in the comments section, and I'll incorporate them into the body of the piece.
With the sixth pick of the draft, the Arizona Diamondbacks pick Barret Loux, a RHP from Texas A&M.
There's a full scouting report after the jump.
Obviously, who we get at #6, depends on who is taken by the teams ahead of us. Here's how the top six are seen as going down by the various outlets at this point, and details of the Diamondbacks' pick. There seems to be a general consensus as to the top three picks, but not necessarily the order. Beyond that, things get a bit trickier... Here are the players listed in the various mock drafts:
- Bryce Harper, C/OF, College of Southern Nevada
- Jameson Taillon, RHP, The Woodlands HS (TX)
- Manny Machado, SS, Brito Private HS (FL)
- Yasmani Grandal, C, Miami
- Michael Choice, OF, UT-Arlington
- Chris Sale, LHP, Florida Gulf Coast
- Drew Pomeranz, LHP, Ole Miss
Round |
Baseball America |
Baseball Prospectus |
Jonathan Mayo, MLB.com |
MLB Bonus Baby |
MLB Mock Draft |
Fanhouse |
| 1. Nationals | Harper |
Harper | Harper | Harper | Harper | Harper |
| 2. Pirates |
Taillon | Taillon | Taillon | Taillon | Machado | Taillon |
| 3. Orioles | Machado | Machado | Machado | Machado | Taillon | Machado |
| 4. Royals | Sale | Grandal | Grandal | Grandal | Grandal | Grandal |
| 5. Indians | Choice | Choice | Sale | Sale | Pomeranz | Sale |
| 6. Diamondbacks |
Pomeranz |
Sale | Pomeranz | Pomeranz | Sale | Pomeranz |
Drew Pomeranz appears to be the consensus pick for Arizona, but if Chris Sale is still on the board, he would perhaps be preferred.
The Diamondbacks picked Barret Loux with the sixth pick, which definitely counts as a surprise. None of the major mock drafts had him in the top ten, and a few of them didn't even have him as a first round-pick.
A few quotes on Loux
D-backs' Director, Scouting Tom Allison: "We've scouted Barret since high school and have seen him grow as a pitcher and as a person at Texas A&M, where he was the team's Friday night starting pitcher this season. He had a successful season this year and is now in the midst of leading his team in a must-win game against the University of Miami tonight to advance to the NCAA Super Regional against Florida this weekend. We believe Barret has all of the physical and mental ingredients to be a starting pitcher in the Major Leagues and look forward to him joining the D-backs soon."
Keith Law: His arm action is clean but there's no deception in the delivery; he takes a moderate stride that could be a little longer after he drifts through his balance point. If he junks the spike and either gets more consistency on the slider or switches to a traditionally-gripped curveball, he'd project as a mid-rotation starter, with the downside of a two-pitch reliever who'd probably sit at 94 or better.
David Coleman: His workload and fastball command suggest he could be a very good No. 3 starter. If his secondary pitches develop, that puts his ceiling even higher. For now, though, looking at him as a solid middle rotation starter who will be ready for the big leagues pretty fast seems about right.
Here's an extended peek from Andy Seiler over at MLB Bonus Baby. The following is from his 2010 MLB Draft Notebook which includes profiles on the top 750 players in the draft, as well as draft previews on all 30 teams. It's only $9.99 and is available through his site.
Barret Loux is a hard-throwing right-handed pitcher from Texas A&M University. Loux came to Texas A&M from Stratford High School in Houston, where he was an excellent prospect. He could have gone in the top seven rounds out of high school if not for a slight shoulder problem during his senior year scaring a number of teams away. However, the Tigers picked him with their twenty-fourth pick, though they failed to sign him despite a hard push to do so. He became a big part of the Aggies’ pitching staff as a freshman, and he was on a roll for two years before going down late in his sophomore season with bone chips in his elbow, which required minor cleanup surgery. That put him down a little to start the 2010 season, but after a wildly successful junior campaign, he’s put himself on track to become an early pick.
He has the solid stuff of a potential number three starter, and there’s still some more left in his body to come. His fastball is an above-average to plus pitch with good deception that sits 91-93, and has touched 96 a few times this spring. He has a big, durable frame, as well, and there’s actually some hope that there may be some velocity left to come. His offspeed pitches are less promising, including a potentially above-average curveball and average changeup, but he pitches off his fastball so much that he doesn’t use them as much as a typical college pitcher, who has to throw softer stuff to succeed against metal bats. He’s snuck up boards all spring to the point that he could sneak into the back part of the first round, though he’s a better fit in the supplemental first or second rounds, where he should sign for about slot money.
Nick Piecoro: Seems to have made a late charge up draft boards this spring. He has a good fastball (low 90s, touching 94-95) and change-up, and apparently has made big strides with his breaking ball. There’s not a ton of effort in the delivery, likely something that attracts the Diamondbacks, although he has an injury history: he had shoulder problems that cost him two months in high school, according to Baseball America, and last year needed surgery to remove bone chips....
Jeff Sullivan: This is a bit of a surprise, but Loux did manage a 2.60 ERA and 136 strikeouts in 104 innings this past season. The drawback is that he doesn't have incredible stuff, preferring instead to change speeds and throw strikes. His fastball hovers in the low-90s, and his changeup is pretty good, but his breaking balls need a good bit of work. Loux doesn't look like an ace in the making. More likely, he winds up a #3 or #4, with the bullpen being a possibility.
Video of Loux pitching, from February this year:
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"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
I've never been really sure what to think of the MLB draft
As you said Jim, it just doesn’t have nearly the immediate impact that the NBA or NFL drafts have. Heck in the NBA a whole team’s destiny can be determined by the draft: ie Chicago Bulls getting Jordan at #3 or the Suns losing out on Kareem because of a coin toss.
The MLB draft on the other hand seems to be a means of beefing up your farm teams with talent, but hardly ever with anyone who one could honestly say is a stone cold lock for the big time.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
It's too bad I didn't get to see Bryce Harper
I started helping out with that HS baseball team a few games after they played LVHS (Harper’s school), so I never actually got to see him play. I saw a few other kids that ended up getting drafted, but not Harper. I’ve heard the same as they report, though, about his onfield character…
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What character is that?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Not good.
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Well that aint good
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Here's
some more information.
Harper’s likely final game as an amateur last week won’t be preserved for the family album: He nearly set off a bench-clearing brawl by spiking the opposing first baseman running to first, glared at the home-plate umpire on a called strike and showed up the umpire by drawing a line in the dirt with his bat that prompted the ejection and an automatic two-game tournament suspension. He never played again, leaving his coach seething, fans angry and his teammates in tears.
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I've told this before
but one of the guys I saw (Jeff Malm, went fifth round to Tampa) got hit by a pitch and promptly yelled out “MOTHER******” and threw his bat at the ground, presumably because he didn’t get a chance to hit. It wasn’t a particularly fast pitch and it just grazed him, so it’s not like it was incredibly painful.
Anyway, I hear Harper’s worse than Malm.
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According to my friend who's played against Harper when he was in HS,
he’s a “little f****** punk.”
I heard the same thing from coaches at my old school, without the… uh, vulgarity.
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Wow, this guy sounds like a punk
I haven’t even met him and I’m already tempted to put him in his place.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Seriously.
Ryan ****ing Leaf.
Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...
...with an automatic.
Hurray
I love the draft. I’m feeling like AZ’s best scenario might be for Sale to drop to #6.
It would be nice to get a left handed pitcher into the org.
Chris Sale has the worst mechanics I've ever seen.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts and condolences
to Mr. Sale’s left elbow.
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His whole arm, basically.
Aside from the obvious inverted W, he’s also got a nasty back bounce on his arm. Jesus, his arm is nearly horizontal at this point, which can cause his humerus bone to fracture. He also finishes facing the catcher, which indicates that he’s using his shoulder minutes to stop his momentum. Lastly, he gets no hip/shoulder separation, so he’s throwing all arm.
Everything about his mechanics are horrible. Except maybe deception, but if he remains a starter, I do not see him going any further than one and a half years before going down with TJS.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't think I like this guy.
I thought we prefered Deck Mcguire over this guy.
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Hope for Pomeranz.
McGuire doesn’t have too much upside, but he’s much more of a sure thing.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT ZOMG DOOD LOOK
HE CAN FLY
Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...
...with an automatic.
I will be majorly
pissed if we take Loux.
Don’t worry though, I’ll save the F-bombs for the DBBP.
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Seems
like a low risk player who would gladly sign for slot at #6?
It may be the best move, but I hate to see conservative picks this close to the top.
by Counsellmember on Jun 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys
are going to have remember that not everyone that pops into this thread follows pre-draft reporting, nor knows any of the players.
It would be helpful to give a little information about a particular player, especially if you have an opinion on whether they should be here or not.
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There's much better pitchers on the board.
Most didn’t have Loux going until the second round.
He only has one good pitch, his sinker. And he’s projected to be a back-of-rotation starter. We have enough of those.
I want Pomeranz or Sale if we HAVE to take a college pitcher. If I could have my way, it’d be Whitson.
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My bad,
I guess I assumed people would be following the reports and whatnot (not being smartassy either).
Looks like it’ll be him though. I just don’t understand. Why take a pitcher with a #4 starter ceiling with the #6 pick? Sometimes this organization makes great moves, then they go and do the most head-scratching things. I’m getting really frustrated.
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Dont get frustrated yet
They havent even made the pick yet!
I read somewhere that AZ was sticking close to slot this year. I think the thinking (if the pick is indeed Loux) that adhering to slot in the first round, might allow us to go above later.
That’s my guess, and my only insider information comes from following the draft chatter here and at the ususal suspects around the mlb blogoshere.
by Counsellmember on Jun 7, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
1st round talent
are much more sure things than in later rounds.
I’d rather get the best talent in the early rounds.
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Yeah
I agree with you specifically about Loux…particularly since Ive read that Sale and Pomogranate aren’t looking to break the bank.
But the team appeared to get some nice players late last year by offering more money and getting them away from college commitments. It’s a delicate balancing act, to be sure.
by Counsellmember on Jun 7, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a table ready
and cleared off just in case I need to bash my head on it.
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i agree
would have preferred sale over loux…in my opinion the draft is such a crapshoot that you have to pick players with the highest upside…..and if it doesn’t pan out, oh well
Since this
is an open thread, I gotta say that the new white iPhone is pretty sexy.
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Meh.
As a (former) owner of a white iPhone, the white front is turrible.
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As
a never owner of any iPhone, the white front looks pretty sexy to me.
So there.
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Oh,
you went there.
Meh, either way, still camping.
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Yeah its fugly
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GEEZ
WHY DON’T YOU AND MOSES GET A ROOM SOMETHING GOSH
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Oh
I’ll never actually get an iPhone since I refuse to go to AT&T. The Android phones are intriguing, but I’ll need one with actual battery life. Maybe next year.
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Verizon
I’ve used it for the past 5 years and have a “family plan” with my wife.
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Yeesh, Verizon's expensive.
If you had T-Mobile, I’d suggest the Nexus One. It’s a beast of a phone.
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What's
the battery life?
I use a Blackberry Tour right now. Really what I want from a phone is access to my email and Twitter at any time without worrying that I need to charge it every 5 hours.
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The battery life is better
than the iPhone. Not quite as good as the Blackberry, but it’ll last all day. Just don’t forget to charge it at night.
It’s pretty much like an Android iPhone. Except better camera, has a trackball, better battery life, and is of course open source because it’s an Android. I have it, I love it.
You should probably wait until the price goes down though. It was EXPENSIVE when I bought it.
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The Nexus has screen issues.
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It's just there for another option.
It’s a touchscreen phone.
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As good as the iPhone
Which is pretty darn good.
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incredible
has an “optical joystick”
I haven’t used it, except for when I was eating wings and didn’t want bbq all over my screen.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol yes
Not really sure how to explain it…you can scroll, and it clicks like the blackberry trackball, but it can’t get stuck. Maybe someone with actual tech knowledge can explain better.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The term is optical trackpad.
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at the risk of going too far OT
My battery life is way better than it was when I first got it.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 6:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah.
Like 100x better. I’m hoping the battery was because of whatever crap happened with the original.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 6:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
other than the battery
The only prob I’ve had is that some of the apps are buggy, but I know that is attributed more to the open source platform and individual developers than the phone itself. Still, I would really like the epicurious app to work.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you try Deleting it and then reinstallng it?
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i tried on the other phone,
but haven’t had a chance to dl anything on this one other than Twitter.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if you want to know anything else
Liz has my number, so feel free to text me.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Coool
it might be a phone to consider when I upgrade next year. Or whatever its newer version is.
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The scorpion will probably be out by then.
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scorpion?
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Scorpion is the next big HTC phone.
Its got a 1.5ghz processor.
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But
why should I care about a 1.5ghz for a phone? What will that do?
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Knowing you,
since you and I aren’t that different, you won’t care. And neither will I. But for people running 300,000 apps and 20,000 functions on their phones at once, it’s a pretty big jump up.
Crap, the margin.
You will be able to run whatever the ef you want on it
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It only matters to a certain point
If you’re dealing largely with text-based apps (such as Twitter/email as you said), you won’t be using the extra juice too much…
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considering the best is a 1ghz
yeah its really freaking good.
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Usually the battery that comes with the phone
isn’t very good.
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Droid Incredible
It’s one to look at. It’s the Verizon version and supposed to have an amazing screen.
Loux scouting report, courtesy of Qudjy on DBBP.
Texas A&M, Jr.
- Birthdate: 4/6/1989
- Height: 6’5"
- Weight: 220 lbs.
- Bats: Right
- Throws: Right
- Scout’s report filed: 3/19/10
Scouting Report
Fastball: Loux threw his fastball in the 91-94 mph range.
Fastball movement: He throws it with good plane, and it has some light sink.
Curve: It’s an average pitch, thrown 75-77 mph.
Slider: It’s slurvy, and it’s his fourth pitch.
Changeup: His best pitch — it’s a plus offering.
Control: He has plus command of his four-pitch arsenal.
Poise: He has outstanding mound presence.
Physical Description: Loux is large and lumbering, with long levers, kind of with a Chris Carpenter-type build.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Four pitches, three of which are average to plus, complete with excellent command.
Weaknesses: His breaking stuff is fringy and will need some work at the next level.
Summary: With his performances this spring, Loux is quickly moving up draft charts. The big right-hander has four pitches he uses, though it’s his fastball and plus changeup that really stand out. His breaking stuff needs some tightening, but with his command, mound presence and easy delivery, there’s reason to believe he can improve that part of his game as well. Before the season began, most Texas college pitching buzz went to Brandon Workman, but Loux has forced his way to the top of that conversation and likely into the first couple of rounds.
His scouting report doesn’t look bad, but he’s definitely not the best talent available.
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Anyone else notice Bryce Harper speaking in the 3rd person just now?
Red Reign is all for speaking in the 3rd person, but if he was really baller he’d speak in the 2nd person.
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome again. True story.
-Barney Stinson
Updated the post
With half a dozen mock drafts [refresh the page if you need to]. They all have us going for Sale or Pomeranz at this point.
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
Is the draft on MLBN
and at what time?
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Pre-draft show on now
Believe it starts at 4pm
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
Thanks...
I don’t really know/care enough to understand the preshow. :)
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4pm PST
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dude,
gots to be careful what the Internet people tell ya.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 7, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Please Diamondbacks,
surprise us and take Whitson. Please?
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the question i have is
if they are looking at drafting a prospect that is gonna take a couple years or are they going to take somebody who is major league ready like leake and straburg from last year
Guys on MLBN
Seem to think he’s going 5 to Cleveland.
Of course, they’re always right, and if they don’t pick him THEN THEY ARE WRONG LAWLZ I AM GUY ON TEEVEE NOT ACTUALLY RUNNING A TEAM!I GIVE YOU F DRAFT GRADE!
According to Nick P. We are not likeley to take Pomegranate.
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But loaded with antioxidants!
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ffffffffff
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I just mean
I got some truly frightening ones in my Photobucket. Don’t unleash the beast.
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But I want it to happen. We won’t see 99% of these picks for three years, if ever. UNLEASH THE FURY.
Not
of amateur baseball players. Random NFL guys and others.
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Right.
I’d be surprised/impressed/concerned if you already had eye mouth pics for 2010 MLB draft picks.
.............
it’s just asking for it.
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brb
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Did IHSB wave?
:-)
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
Well
here we go. Bryce Dallas Howard is probably a lock for number one.
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Lol.
I loved her in twilight
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She..
she hasn’t been in Twilight yet?
She was cast to play the red-headed vampire for the third film, replacing who ever they had for the first two movies.
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MosesFAIL
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Her
most high-profile role was probably in Spider-man 3 as Gwen Stacy.
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Wasn'y she Christian Bale's wife in terminator?
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It just started?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Do
they really need to think about it? They’ve known they were number 1 since forever.
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No,
it’s just an “official” thing.
They probably won’t take the whole time allowed.
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Those jerks.
DON’T THEY KNOW THAT WE WANT TO GET TO OUR PICK?!
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Especially
since I have to leave for school in 30 minutes.
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last minute deals?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
I dunno
if that highlight reel was supposed to show Harper’s ability as a defensive catcher, than I don’t really see it. Obviously he’s still young and has plenty of time to develop, but they probably should just focus on his bat for the highlight reel.
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Peter Gammons
is old.
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Yeah very old.
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He is 65 so yeah older than the tree of us combined
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Well, that's a shock
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
Did..
did… Selig just correctly pronounce Nevada? Maybe he doesn’t bother me as much now.
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With a deep "vah"?
We call it Nih-va-duh with a higher “va”.
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It's
nooooooot “va” as in “Vaughn”. It’s “va” as in “Vatican”.
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Hah. The Californian is right. :)
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Good
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I guess
I don’t see the big deal. I’mma start mispronouncing it all the time, though.
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Hillary Clinton said it wrong when she came here
and got plenty, plenty of crap about it on local news for a short bit.
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HAH, Bud
“Thank you, I didn’t think it was that much of a surprise.”
He called him an outfielder though.
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
Seems like he has played everywhere
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Seems like he has played everywhere
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
You'd rather watch Bud Selig than us?
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Of course.
And hear the wonderful analysts.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
'Aight, I'm just watching till the Dbacks pick
then I’m finding actual baseball to watch.
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I have it on in the background
while doing research for another post.
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how is post formed
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That's what regular baseball is for me :)
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Come on Baltimore.
Hurry up. We know you’re taking Machado.
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Too subtle?
Taillon = Tie-on -——> Tie one on?
Ugg, it’s going to be a long, sober draft
by Counsellmember on Jun 7, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Los O's
get Machado. SHOCKED.
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Machado to the O's
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I don't
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i got to work at 3
It is now 4:23, and I have had exactly 0 customers. Saaaad day.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yep
and there was no one in the store when I got here.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
just wondering
since you’re also in retail…what are your company’s break rules (times and such)? They just changed ours, and I think they’re completely bogus.
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by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
15 minute
break if you work 5 hours or less.
30 minutes lunch and 15 minute break for 5 1/2 hours to 7 1/2 hours.
30 minutes lunch and 2 15 minute breaks for 8 hours.
We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.
wow...
Just…wow.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
until today
We had 30 minutes break at 6 hours worked. Effective next week, it’s 45 minutes break for 5 hours worked.
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by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah,
but it makes a 5 hour shift into a 4 hour and 15 minute shift…they’re cutting costs, but not taking into account how it’ll affect their employees.
Ok, they probably did, but it still pisses me off.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sooo... that's better than just 15 minutes?
What soco put is pretty standard.
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Seems
reasonable to me. When I worked at RobMay, you wouldn’t get a lunch unless you worked a 9 hour shift (an hour off for lunch).
We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.
Agreed, it's not too bad.
The only problem was that one of the managers was cognizant of how the system worked, and frequently scheduled 7.5-hour shifts instead of 8s.
thats how all of my jobs have been
except this one.
I should have a mfin theme song.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Unless you're a social worker...
then, Happy day!
by Counsellmember on Jun 7, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
Harper, Taillon, and Machado were definitely going 1-2-3. We don’t know what’s happening next.
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/bitchslap
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So
who should I be wanting us to get?
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Drew Pomeranz
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I love that last name
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I sent you a text, just to letcha know
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MY phone is dead.
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I'm me over FB
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Already discussed this
I want him as our closer.
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We could draft Troy Polamalu.
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5 minutes
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Royals
take …
who?
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Ok, now I got it
misheard.
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Well, that IS a shock
Who?
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
No clue
but unless he’s a Sun Devil or Bryce Dallas Howard, then I’m going to have no idea.
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I'm pretty much
done after the first pick. I’m just here for the hors d’oeuvres.
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Wow
Colon was #25 on all three BA, BP and MLB.com drafts.
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RoyalsFAIL?
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Who is Dayton Moore?
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Okay.
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Maybe
the Royals are just trying to mitigate their fanbase’s heartbreak when a star leaves by not picking one in the first place.
snaaaap
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by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's like...
… People who actually run baseball teams know something that people who write about it don’t..
(A pet peeve of mine throughout draft processes is the holyness of the “Draft Board”)
I agree a lot of the time...
…but it is the Royals. Grienke is the only thing that’s made them relavant in 20 years.
So
Tribe s’posed to take Pomeranz?
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and they do.
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That's not very good for a #4 pick:
a Polanco comparison.
Don’t get me wrong, Polanco is good, but he’s not very good for a high draft pick.
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Sale for us?
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Noooooo Pomegranate.
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Ugh her comes Sale
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So informal poll question
What’s worse? Having an out of touch dinosaur of a commissioner like Selig or a raving, controlling egotist like Stern?
Definetly Stern.
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Stern is worse
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
its hard to argue with the success he, and MLB, have had since he became the commissioner, largely because of his leadership. Yes, he’s screwed up on the steroids issue (though I honestly don’t think its a big deal) and he had a huge bomb on his hands with the 1994 strike, but he’s made MLB into a revenue juggernaut, and the game is in a better position than it has ever been before.
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Stern
be worse.
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Stern is a tyrant
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Pleasepleaseplease don't take Loux.
Anybody else, I’m fine with.
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I blame Reynolds.
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oh? You heard that?
I’m sitting on a cushion too.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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The only other local kid
that’s up for grabs is Kris Bryant, methinks. First-rounder probably. Dude’s a beast.
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What pos
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1B
I think. One of my friends is/was a teammate at Bonanza HS.
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Do you think Sale's mechanics are unchangeable?
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Not our problem now.
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AAAAAAAAAND WE TAAAAAKE.....!
Loux.
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FFFFFFFFFF
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The dudes name is Barret for christ sake
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He needs to put a minigun on his arm.
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It's not already?
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point...
but really, outside of the first three picks, I think the consensus is that there IS no consensus. If they liked this kid, and think they can develope him into a #2 pitcher, than I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt…for now.
by Counsellmember on Jun 7, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
gotcha
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 7, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Was Sale the consensus pick for the snakepit?
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 7, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
So you'd rather have Sale?
Haha, nah. I’m not too thrilled with this pick either, but Sale is a walking time bomb.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
I’m really really really pissed off right now.
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So if I'm understanding this correctly (since I don't follow the draft whatsoever),
the Diamondbacks put themselves in a position to come out on top, only to blow it at the last possible moment and leave their fans wishing for a different outcome.
Gee, that doesn’t sound like the Diamondbacks at all.
This poor Sale fellow.
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Well
I guess I’d better go to school. Keep on, keeping on.
We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.
Local sports radio guys..
…defended this guy a lot in the face of accusations of him being an ass. They said because he was 17 and was basically called the best for so long it’s no wonder he was so cocky.
Yeah
imma guess Mr. Sale’s sad he’s dropping.
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Delino DeShields has a kid old enough now?
Jeez, I’m getting old. He played in the first ever live game I saw.
Loux looks like a reach . . but he looks pretty good
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
Big reach.
A lot of mocks had him going in the 2nd.
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Updated the post with some quotes
Refresh to see. More to follow.
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How Major league ready is Loux
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A's take michael choice.
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Is anyone still here?
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Loux is on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/people/Barret-Loux/646190607
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i dont know why they are drafting a so called # 3 guy
with the 6th pick, you should be picking an ace at that spot
+1
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Not even a #3.
That’s his CEILING.
He’s more likely a 4-5 guy.
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Loux has no secondary pitches.
If you’re going to take a future #3, take McGuire. At least he’s near ready for the big leagues. Ugh. Thank god it’s not Chris Sale though.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You're really worried
about Sale’s injury risk?
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Remember Mark Prior?
Him, except with even worse mechanics. Then take genetics into account (apparently Prior was a genetic freak), and you’ll get that much production out of Sale.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
In Prior's defense,
Dusty Baker fried his arm.
I wasn’t arguing, I was just asking why you disliked him.
I agree, Sale will be injured or become a closer.
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Closer
As in close his career out his career early? Sure. He doesn’t have a deep arsenal either.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey J-dub how major league ready is Loux?
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He should be here end of next year, hopefully.
He’s just not good though.
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Didn't Leake have a #3 starter Ceiling?
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Yeah, but
he’s a lot better than Loux though. His ceiling is borderline #3 IF he can develop his secondary pitches. That’s a big if though. Ugh.
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Ah I see.
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He'll fit right in then?
and with no pressure?
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
What # is our second round pick?
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56
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 7, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
57-ish
Don’t hold your breath.
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
Don't hold my breath on what?
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Now updated with video
Of Loux pitching earlier this year.
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I wonder if sale will drop to the second round?
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Chris Sale to the White Sox
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You kidding?
Sale at least has an outside chance of being a good starter.
Did Sale go out with your girlfriend or something man?
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No no.
Trust me. I’m not even exaggerating one bit. I don’t see him going more than one and a half years before going down with TJS. Everything about it is a train wreck. Not much of a third pitch either.
I’m not thrilled about Loux either, but there’s a reason Sale was dropping. Did you see the pic I posted above? Yikes.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Mechanics can be changed,
talent can’t be taught.
Loux at 6 is much worse than Sale at 13.
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Sale's success success came from deception.
You change it, it’s gone. You have no idea how much reworking his delivery needs for him to even have a chance to stay healthy.
Loux has a chance to make it. Sale doesn’t.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather take a chance and fail
than be safe and get someone crappy.
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You have no idea how much of an injury pick Sale is.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
KLaw says:
“I don’t love the arm action, but this idea that arm action guarantees injury has to die. It’s all probability, and there have been pitchers with subpar mechanics who’ve pitched in the majors for several years before getting hurt, as well as plenty of pitchers with "clean" arm actions who got hurt anyway.”
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Name me one player with bad mechanics that’s made it, and one with a polished delivery break down.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't think of one off the top of my head.
But it’s not like I keep a database of all pitchers with bad mechanics.
I just copy/pasted what he said. And he’s right. Bad mechanics doesn’t mean that he’ll 100%, for sure, get hurt.
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That's like saying
drinking and driving won’t 100% lead to an accident.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, duh.
It doesn’t need to be 100%. The chances of him getting hurt is really, really, REALLY likely. Add another really or two.
You’d be okay with a your parent drinking heavily every drive? You shouldn’t. Same thing for Sale.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But drafting Sale
and getting injured isn’t as catastrophic as drinking and driving.
I’d rather get something and it turn out to be nothing than getting a pitcher who isn’t good.
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Well injury
obviously isn’t the equivalent to death.
Maybe in the baseball world when a #13 pick (or 6th for us) turns out to be a bust.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
13 picks are rarely considered huge "busts"
because they’re mid-first round. But if you get a #6 pick, you DO NOT take someone like Loux.
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#13 should be the 13th best player in this whole draft class.
That’s a bust.
I agree about Loux though.
by CaptainCanuck on Jun 7, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was running the Dbacks
we’d have Whitson. Instead we’ll see him carving up Dbacks hitters in a few years.
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And it's not like Loux
is perfect healthwise either.
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It's not bad mechanics,
he’s had shoulder surgery.
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Look
Just cause some guy who forgot to put Chris Carpenter on his Cy Young Ballot says he’s gonna be something, doesn’t necessarily mean he’s gonna be that.
And that's not a personal thing
… It goes back to my general aggravation of “ZOMG THEY WENT OFF OUR HOLY DRAFT DRAFT BOARDS. THEY IZ WRONG LAWLZ!!!”
I prefer to take the “wait and see” approach. It’ll be a year plus til we would possibly see this guy up here. Simmer everyone
I don't even know
what you’re talking about.
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I just think
It’s absurd to write a guy off before he’s even shown up in A-Ball.
And that goes for both Loux AND Sale
Well, it's not like
he’s going to just come up with all this talent that nobody ever saw before.
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That's not true
Pitchers add to their repertoire all the time. There’s always room for improvement.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't get why he was drafted so high.
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Apparently
They expect Loux to progress into a better pitcher than he is being valued. In that case, it may be a bust, but it would appear that they’ll be getting a quality pitcher either way.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Why get Loux
when you could get a potential ace in Whitson?
No matter how good Loux becomes, Whitson will be better, barring injury of course, terrorizing the NL West.
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I understand
And I agree that it could be classified as a “risk.” We’ll just have to wait and see so we can compare the two. :-)
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You know
Loux is a top 50 prospect. You don’t have to act like the world is falling apart.
From what I can tell, he’s seen by most as a No. 3 guy with the potential to move up if he can improve on his secondary stuff. He’s definitely no Jarrod Parker but I’m plenty satisfied with the pick. I consider it a low-risk and low(er)-cost pick. Conservative is the word of the day.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not acting like the world is falling apart.
I just don’t like a guy like Loux as our #6 pick.
I will happily, with all my heart, let you go “nahnahnahnahnah” in my face if I’m wrong. In this case, I’d rather be wrong than right.
My whole point was: there was better talent on the board. Much better. And we took a guy that should’ve been a second rounder instead. With a #6 pick.
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There must be a reason
Which is probably why none of us here are scouts. The staff clearly saw something in Loux that they didn’t see in some of the other pitchers. Plus, with Loux being projected lower he becomes more cost-effective.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a HORRIBLE pick, per se.
It’s just that he shouldn’t be drafted 6th overall. No way.
Like I said, I really really hope I’m wrong.
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Well, just think about it.
Projections are never perfect. If you have a gut feeling – whether you’re the scout or the manager – that a pitcher is being undervalued and that you should go for it then maybe you should.
The D-Backs have done a good job with their drafts over the past few years. While many of those players are now with other teams, a good majority of them are performing very well. You have to give the staff a little bit of credibility.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The only good draft we've had in the last few years
was last year. We had a great draft. I hope we go all out for the rest of the draft.
I think we should’ve gotten as much high ceiling talent as we can, and it’ll work itself out.
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It doesn't always work though
Just ask the Pirates.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The Pirates weren't
very good decision makers really…
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It's a tough call as of now
Seeing as he is still extremely raw. He has very little professional experience and hasn’t yet played in 2010 due to a fractured growth plate.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think Pollock had a high ceiling anyways.
Wasn’t he drafted for signability?
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Pollock is hard to judge
Because so many scouts differ on his overall ability and potential.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That's good to hear.
From everything I’ve read, his ceiling is a “meh” regular.
Do you know if he’s playing infield or outfield?
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He's an outfielder
For sure. He was drafted as one and played the last half of 2009 as a CF for South Bend.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 7, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh okay,
I haven’t heard much since the draft last year. Thanks.
IIRC, there was some debate as to whether he was a 2B or CF.
What’s his ceiling, in your opinion?
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20
Pollack?
I don’t recall any talk of him playing 2B?
Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...
...with an automatic.
He played 2B in college.
People thought we were going to switch him to 2B because of our lack of second basemen in the system last year.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20
How is the other 1st rounder from last year?
First name is Bobby and i believe he is a 3B
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 7, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
He's not doing so well,
but I think he’s going to be really good someday.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20
He's going to be a much more rounded player than Reynolds.
He’s been compared to Chipper Jones. And while it’s completely unfair to expect that production, he still will be good. He’s pretty far away from the majors though, as he came straight out of high school.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20
I cant wait for Dodgers to make fool of themselves with this pick
Im sure the SnakePit will be amused
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 7, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
I have
never agreed more with one of your commets.
Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...
...with an automatic.
How good is Lee?
I haven’t heard anything about him.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20
Hes a great pick but has a commitment to play football at LSU
It will take a lot to sign him, and people are already bashing McCourt because he wont be able to sign him
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 7, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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