Diamondbacks 5, Yankees 6: Defending World Chumps
Arizona headed into tonight's series finale with the chance to take two of three from The New York Yankees, silencing half the patrons in attendance and getting some much-needed momentum. What happened instead was equal parts dramatic and awful. Timely hitting in some spots, and failure in others. Good bullpen work some innings, and crippling blows in others.
Follow me after the jump, and I'll tell you a story: The Adventure of Lord Dontrelle, and The Team That Rallied Behind Him But Wasn't Good Enough Anyway.
Willis threw 27 pitches in the first, and only eight of them were strikes. But the Yankees did their best to bail him out, running their way out of the inning entirely. Jeter walked and moved to second on a wild pitch, and scored on a base hit by Swisher. And then Swisher was caught stealing without even involving the catcher. Then Teixeira and Rodriguez drew back-to-back walks to put a runner back in scoring position -- and that threat was promptly erased when Cano struck out and Teixeira was caught trying to go to third (with two outs, so who knows). You know, your run-of-the-mill one-run inning.
The Diamondbacks struck back quickly, however...and destroyed themselves on the bases just the same. The inning started walk-single-single-walk, yet no runs scored. For after Johnson's walk and Drew's single, Upton laced a base hit to opposite field, but Johnson was gunned down at home. Montero walked to reload the bases, but Young struck out for the second out. LaRoche followed with a clutch two-out hit, though, scoring Drew and Upton...only to see Montero gunned out at third to end the inning. Again, why a runner was trying to head to third with two outs is beyond me. Still, the Diamondbacks found themselves up 2-1 after a run-of-the-mill two-run inning.
Both sides went down in order in the second, returning to normal a bit. Willis once again helped the Yankees in the third, however, walking FOUR batters, including a leadoff base on balls to the pitcher. Once the tying run waltzed home, Willis was pulled with the following wonderful line:
2 1/3 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 7 BB (!), 2 K.
His ERA remained below 5 for the season, despite a WHIP north of 2. In all, Willis threw 67 pitches to get seven outs, and only 27 were for strikes. Just...awful.
Somehow, baseball continued from that point. Boyer relieved Willis and promptly got Cano to ground into an inning-ending double play, preventing further damage with the bases loaded. In fact, Boyer provided solid (if shaky) relief all the way through the fifth, keeping the Yankees stuck at two runs.
Meanwhile, Arizona retook the lead in the fourth thanks to another quick offensive outburst. Montero and Young started the inning with a base hit and a double respectively, and LaRoche drove both of them in with another base hit. The D-backs could get nothing further, but they still found themselves with a 4-2 lead.
Boyer gave it all back in the sixth, though, seemingly left in too long (42 pitches by the time he was pulled). He was in trouble from the start, with a leadoff double followed by a single and stolen base by Granderson. Boyer was unable to wriggle his way out of the jam, giving up an RBI groundout and another run via a single before finally being yanked, the lead vanished. New guy Demel promptly bailed out his compadre with another double play ball, though, so once again Arizona found itself tied.
Like the last time, the Diamondbacks retook the lead -- but this time it was the Yankees giving out gifts. With one out, Chris Young drew a walk. He proceeded to move to second on a balk, to third on a wild pitch, and score on a LaRoche (sound familiar?) groundout in a display of National League run generation at its finest. Or worst, depending on your perspective.
You thought maybe, just maybe, that margin could hold. But this bullpen seems determined not to let the Diamondbacks win under any circumstances. In this case, Demel continued through the seventh with another great inning, striking out the Yankees' 2-3-4 hitters in a dominant performance. And even Juan Gutierrez joined in on the fun, striking out the side in the eighth (albeit while dancing around two hits and giving everyone heart attacks).
But the ninth...the ninth.
Newish closer Aaron Heilman was tasked with protecting a one-run lead against the top of New York's order. No easy task, to be sure, but one you expect to be done. Instead, he promptly walked the first two hitters he saw, and the stat about leadoff walks coming around to score unless they don't came true -- Teixeira moved them over with a groundout to the right side, and A-Rod launched a sac fly to end the dream of an Arizona player getting a clean save. Heilman did escape without allowing the go-ahead run to score from second, but the damage was already done, and our closer had blown a save without even given up a hit.
Arizona could manage nothing off Mariano Rivera in the bottom of the ninth, so the game went to extra innings. Carlos Rosa took over in the 10th, and gave up a big fly to the first hitter he faced (Granderson). It seemed like the damage would be even worse, as the next two hitters reached on a base hit and a walk, but Rosa extricated himself from danger with a GIDP. With two outs, the Yankees let Rivera hit for himself (19 pitches in the ninth) -- which seemed odd with a one-run lead. Rivera had two previous big league at-bats: a strikeout in 2006, and a bases-loaded RBI walk last year. This time around, Rivera ended the inning with a feeble groundout, and we headed to the bottom of the 10th.
Did the Diamondbacks make the Yankees pay for their arrogant use of Rivera? Make a statement, turn around a dreary season? They sure seemed on their way. Drew started things off by roping a little base hit to right. Upton followed it up by pulling a double to left, but it was iffy whether Drew could make it home on Gardner's arm. At the very least, second and third with no one out wasn't a bad fallback position. Montero was intentionally walked to load the bases, and then the following sequence of fail happened:
- Young popped out to the catcher on a pitch that might as well have been at his eyes.
- LaRoche popped out to third on a cutter that bore in on his hands (and if anyone has the inclination to mention anything about "warming" in relation to this, do bear in mind that he drove in all five of our runs tonight).
- Reynolds struck out on the fifth of five fastballs away.
Punch in the gut. Enough offense, a decent outing by the bullpen -- but none of it at the right times, weighed down too heavily by an abysmal outing from tonight's starter.

Master of his Domain: Justin Upton, +33.6%
Honorable Mention: Samuel Demel, +18.1%; Stephen Drew, +14.9%; Juan Gutierrez, +12.8%
God-Emperor of Suck: Mark Reynolds, -34.7%
Dishonorable Mention: Carlos Rosa, -27.8%; Dontrelle Willis, -19.8%; Aaron Heilman, -17.4%; Gerardo Parra, -12.2%; Kelly Johnson, -11.2%
So there you have it. Plenty of blame to go around, and to be honest, a feeble effort like tonight's probably shouldn't beat the New York Yankees anyway.
Another busy GDT, consistent with the rest of the Yankees series. 1650+ comments by the time I pulled the numbers, and lord knows 2,000 might be possible with this group. Jdub edged Skins at time of writing by four posts, 331-327; soco and snakecharmer also had triple digits. The list: snakecharmer, Dallas D'Back Fan, DbacksSkins, hotclaws, BattleMoses, pygalgia, kishi, Azreous, Jim McLennan, katers, soco, asteroid, AJforAZ, Rockkstarr12, Jdub220, emilylovesthedbacks, luckycc, Bryan J. Boltik, Wimb, Brandon C., blank_38, Opoohwan, neilback, NASCARbernet.
Next up: A day off to regroup, followed by a three-game set with Tampa Bay as we end this part of a murderous interleague schedule. Early starts since they're on the road -- 4:10, 1:05 and a 10:40 early riser on Sunday. Hey, don't look so glum -- the Rays are only the third best team in their division! Ha, ha, ha...
EDIT: Forgot a Comment of the Night. So, with a little further ado, here it is!
Did anybody else see Willis hitting his own leg?
That’s him punishing himself for throwing a ball into the strikezone.
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I enjoy the title.
The bullpen’s massive failure didn’t make me disappointed in this game, the meltdown is expected. It’s the gigantic, uber-suckage in the bottom of the 10th. Unacceptable.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
Hey, don’t look so glum — the Rays are only the third best team in their division! Ha, ha, ha…
Bud Selig HATES us. What’s our interleague schedule? The top 4 teams in the AL East, (including the Red Sox IN BOSTON… where they’re unstoppable… ask the Rockies how good they are on the road) then… the Orioles? No. THE FREAKING TIGERS.
Mr. Science Boy
It was probably something posted by me.
Because my posts are pure internet gold.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
IT WAS ME :D With 5 recs!
You really think
‘skins is paying actual attention to the game? Duuuuh, he’s increasing his post count by correcting himself…
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Jun 24, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't
automatically go to the comment that was rec’d most. It’s the recapper’s discretion.
That being said, Azreous might choose that one.
Mr. Science Boy
How is it arrogant to leave your best reliever in for a two inning save? Considering the Yankees used all of their halfway decent relievers earlier in the game, have an off day tomorrow, and were left with three cans of gasoline (Gaudin, Park, Logan) in the pen, I don’t see how it’s arrogant. RIvera after a tough inning is still better than the other schelps that were sitting out there.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
I didn't think it was arrogant.
I thought it was smart strategy, and I said so in the GDT.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Smart decision
but still annoying as hell, especially seeing all the Yankees laughing in the dugout. Is it legit? Sure. But it still annoys me.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Annoying, no doubt.
But not arrogant, I don’t think.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
No,
but I’m always willing to criticize.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like stealing a base with a six run lead.
Sure, someone’s going to think it’s above and beyond, but didn’t someone say “I’ll stop doing that if they agree not to try and score any more themselves.”...or something?
Girardi wanted to nail it down. That’s an effective hammer.
Considering the first game of the series can you blame him?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Well it was an exciting game to be at, but damn those Yankee fans are obnoxious
Hurts having your home stadium taken over by another team and it hurt even more when you own team gave up a good chance to win.
Overall i guess i’m happy they even had a chance despite the D-Train being terrible tonight, but dang it hurts to see our bullpen give up runs yet again.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Wow.
As of right now, 702 comments between Jdub and I, out of 1720 total in the GDT.
We combined for 41% of a 1700 comment thread.
Mr. Science Boy
Wow. Go us.
But mostly me.
First 300 comment game FTpostcountW!
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
What was the percentage you and I got the other night?
Tuesday, when you had over 200 and I got 183 and third place was at about 85?
Nice strikeout!
396/800 on 'Charmer's roll call,
which is right under half.
But on a rollcall I just ran, 423/854, just under half again.
Bigger percentage, but less comments.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
I've
posted the majority of comments in plenty of GDTs before, but the total comment count was much lower, naturally.
Mr. Science Boy
Are there prizes?
“I’m not really sure what the goal is anymore.”
– Matt Morris, referring to the state of Giants baseball during the Bonds Circus Years.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
my god
The Yanks were noticablly trying to just let the D-backs win this one. they were playing abosalutely awful baseball.
Signs of a terrible team: losing when your opponents is playing god awful baseball.
Going
28-45 is a pretty good indication too.
Wear your own fur.
by Marc Fournier on Jun 24, 2010 3:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah great analysis
would you like to add anything or did you just come to shit on our team? We can do that on our own, thank you.
Blogging about my summer at a Chinese law firm.
NEW BLOG, as my original one is blocked by the Great Firewall.
http://ajinshanghai.wordpress.com/
So...
Had you lost, what would that say? Because the Diamondbacks are somewhere past god awful at this point.
Just what he already said.
The Yanks were TRYING to lose. Perhaps they were being magnanimous in light of 2001.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Feel free to, ya know,
NOT rub it in?
Also, feel free to use the “Preview” function and/or dictionary before posting.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Given we were within one bloop single - y'know, just like in 2001...
Of winning, despite playing even worse, e.g. walking five million Yankees, running into multiple outs on the basepaths, etc… What does that say about NYY?
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
by Jim McLennan on Jun 24, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish
Reynolds hit a bloop single over Cano’s head, like a mirror reflection of 2001. It would be beautiful.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
+1
I was wondering, did Rivera take the mound in 2004 when the Yankees were here? i’ll look in a sec. I think this may have been his first appearance since the WS.
Nice strikeout!
I think they did say it was his first regular season appearance
since ’01 (not counting exhibition games, I guess).
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Jun 24, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but somehow I remember some
in 2005 or something…. I don’t know, I was just surprised they qualified it with “regular season” as though there were other kinds.
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Jun 24, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
My friend and I were at the very top of 328, a bit of a hike She smokes, so had to go outside a couple of times.
I just took my backup camera (Olympus-fe100). My main digital camera, the Pentax , broke in ST when I dropped it I have a Pentax IQzoom105 WR, but I wouldn’t want something to happen to it at a ballpark.
It was overall a very fun game. I am sure it was in part do to the fact I was with my best friend (her first mlb game).
I called the ending perfectly (by then we had snuck down and over to much better seats). I told my friend, the Yanks are going to hr, and sure enough Granderson hit one out. I then said, the Dbacks will threaten in the bottom half (at this point I legitimatly, did not care). Sure enough, they loaded the bases with nobody out, and then rolled over and died. So damn predictable.
I laughed when the Yankees let Mo bat for himself in the 9th (?)
After the Yankees won, we started walking to the buses. I told my friend I was in the mood to mouth off if a Yankee fan (other than her) razzed me. So….I saw a guy in a EB22 jersey. I says, " You know you cost us 30mil$ and Carlos Quentin?" He looked at me speachlessly.
My friend turns to me and goes, “you better watch it. I can talk shit because no guy is going to kick a chick’s ass, but they wouldn’t think twice about kicking your ass.”
Fun times, fun times. Peace out.
Nice strikeout!
My friend turns to me and goes, "you better watch it. I can talk shit because no guy is going to kick a chick’s ass, but they wouldn’t think twice about kicking your ass."
Yeah, but as we learned in the GDT, you’ve got a favorable “at the tooth/groin” probability.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Why was a yankee fan wearing
an EB22 jersey? That doesn’t make any sense.
After the Yankees won, we started walking to the buses. I told my friend I was in the mood to mouth off if a Yankee fan (other than her) razzed me. So….I saw a guy in a EB22 jersey. I says, " You know you cost us 30mil$ and Carlos Quentin?" He looked at me speachlessly.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He wanted to fight a Yankees fan who'd talk crap,
but none did, so he took it out on a Dbacks fan.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Lame;
and makes even less sense. There’s more I’d love to say but won’t
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i know
You went Tuesday, right?
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you post yours on a site similar to Photobucket?
I’d love to see what catches your eye.
Tit for tat – I’m herrbrush there.
All are welcome. Do me justice – or really spectacular INjustice – with your Photoshop skills.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Me, I'm content with layering.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Phil is right.
How is it lame? I refrained from talking crap about the yankees thru an entire game listening to them, had a headach, was tired and then mr eric byrnes jersey shows up. Shut it.
Nice strikeout!
+1
Agreed
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 24, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Bailiff, call the next case.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
He was a Diamondbacks fan!
We just got our ass handed to us by the hordes of yankee fans in OUR stadium and you want to rip into a fellow Diamondbacks fan? Not cool, by any definition.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, ok I see the point.
Sorry. I guess it amounts to not having balls to say anything to a Yankees fan and wanting to impress my friend. I dunno.
Nice strikeout!
Sounds like someone
has a crush.
But I’m with you, Justin. Anyone who wears a Flipper jersey is free game.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
But not that it mattered
that Byrnes cost us Quentin though…
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
we sure have some winners
for fans around here,
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally
I’m not going to hassle someone who is enough of a DBacks fan to spend money on a jersey and tickets, especially in a time when our fanbase is dwindling. I may joke with people I know, but I wouldn’t hassle a stranger for wearing a jersey of a DBacks player I’m not crazy about.
(Unless it was Russ Ortiz, then I’d be calling for people with straitjackets.)
"Scott, if your life had a face, I would punch it. I would punch your life in the face."
by kishi on Jun 24, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well said
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't hassle somebody,
I’d probably make a joke about it with whoever I was with though. I’m not a heckling type of person.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
I usually am not a heckling type person either.
I can appreciate a great play by the opposition as well. I wouldn’t cheer for it but I would still say what a play.
Nice strikeout!
I just let my frustration come out at times.
Like the “Nice strikeout” at the afl game.
Nice strikeout!
Stay that, Bailiff.
They’re still pontificating.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
It's our hobby?

Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 25, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't either
Even though some of us may not get along with others, I would never stoop to smack talking a fellow Dbacks fan, at least not in a rude way. Sure, the occasional ribbing of a favourite player on the team, as long as it’s in fun, is acceptable, but to just downright bag on someone like Justin did to the fan in the Byrnes jersey is not cool.
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 24, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, I get it. It was wrong.
I only posted that because I thought my friends response was funny. I guess no one else did.
Nice strikeout!
My mom has a Byrnes jersey
So I’m gonna have to start cracking skulls if people hassle her over it.
"Scott, if your life had a face, I would punch it. I would punch your life in the face."
I have an EB22 Dutch Goose shirt
Totally a collectible. :D
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Jun 24, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I love you.
And the mental picture of you cracking skulls just makes my day.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by 4 Corners Fan on Jun 25, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I did not enjoy the walk out of
the stadium, at all. It was one of the most unpleasant experiences to feel like a stranger in your own “home”. I was so horse, so I couldn’t say anything if I wanted to.
There was no taunting, the yankee fans kept to themselves, but the sheer number and seeing them celebrate on our turf, that was hard to stomach.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Frustration
often boils over and leads us to take it out upon those who don’t deserve it.
::shrug:: Human nature.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Use your ash tray.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
I’ve been out of touch with baseball recently with all of the iPhone stuff going on, but yeesh. It was hard enough for me to read the FSN Az texts in order (bases loaded, no outs… pop out… pop out… strikeout). I couldn’t imagine watching them.
About the iPhone stuff, I’ve been here in the mall since 9:30AM… yesterday, I guess. They open in just under three hours at 7AM. I’ve met a few people that I’ve been talking to online, which is certainly cool/awkward.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
The cool Snakepit.
Everything about this post
is a fail.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
Overobsession about an iPhone, when you could get an Android.
Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 26
by Jdub220 on Jun 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"Be more concerned w/ character than reputation. Character is what you are, reputation is what people think you are." ~ John Wooden
by Rockkstarr12 on Jun 24, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
/looks at his Plainolphone, which looks back at him
/they both laugh
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
People you talk to online are usually pretty weird in real life.
"Scott, if your life had a face, I would punch it. I would punch your life in the face."
they scare me at times
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have found this to be so true.
In every case. Even kishi, which is a little surprising.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by 4 Corners Fan on Jun 25, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Reynolds...
sometimes a base hit is all you need.
Somebody needs to tell Mark that not every hit needs to be a home run. Bottom of the 10th, bases loaded, trailing by one run. Why on God’s green Earth does he swing the bat so hard?
Just turn it down a notch, put the stinking lumber on the ball and drive in two runs with a solid single to center field.
I frankly don’t get it. Here’s why.
We’re at the point where this guy strikes out half the time. He is batting 7th in the lineup. He has 53 hits and is batting .215.
We have 6 guys who have approx. 250 ABs under their belts. The other five combine for and batting average of .265, and an average of 69 hits.
Am I completely off my rocker thinking that we would probably have 4 to 5 more wins to show for if he just hit the darn baseball (and I mean inside the park)?
Actually...
Over the whole season, Reynolds has been one of our best hitters with runners in scoring position. Last night wasn’t good, but don’t base your criticisms off one at-bat. There’ll be more on this later today.
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
by Jim McLennan on Jun 24, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't disagree, but...
Let’s be honest. Strikeouts are plaguing this team and it’s KKKKKKKKKKilling us. Here’s the current NL top 20. What’s wrong with this picture? Five D-Backs are in it.

Please read this:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/statitudes/11/14/strikeouts.bad/index.html
Basically, if you apply this logic to Reynolds and Upton, it boils down to 200 ABs where absolutely nothing productive happens for your team.
That
article makes no attempt at connecting the two pieces of information.
1) Pennant winners are determined by a playoff format, which generally crowns (because of luck) a different champion than straight table
2) How many less strikeouts do playoff teams have in comparison to non-playoff teams? Ranking means nothing if the numbers are grouped together
3) It doesn’t why or how strikeouts are connected to wins (if at all) but instead says basically that since some teams strikeout more, and then subsequently don’t win the win (over a fairly short time period), therefore strikeouts must cause these teams to not win pennants. Confusing causation for correlation
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Another interesting take on SOs...
This ones offers interesting numbers about Pujols and his low SO average over the years.
It also says
While strikeouts are anything but desirable, an abundance of strikeouts does not necessarily preclude a player from compiling impressive statistics or being a key part of his team.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Nobody is arguing that
But can you argue how much of a threat Reynolds would be if he hit .250?
Strikeouts
I don’t think Strike outs are necessarily ‘bad’ but I think they aren’t exactly ‘good’ either. I think it’s kind of like getting dunked on in basketball, sure it’s only 2 points, no different then a 10’ jumper or a layup, but there is something about it that fires up the other team. I your relief pitcher comes in and strikes out the side 1, 2, 3 you get pumped up and read to go. If on the other hand the side goes, deep fly out, bang-bang out at first and then another out at the warning track, you’re ok cool got out of that with no damage. There’s something about a strike out that is a bit more demoralizing then just a pop fly. Now last night, bases loaded, fly ball out better then a strikeout which is better then grounding into a double play. So I guess it’s bad but there are worse ‘outs’ and ‘better’ outs a any given time.
Just my 2 cents (or more like 5 cents)
by Spaghetti_Monster on Jun 24, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Again
More on this later today. Basically, strikeouts and run production on a team basis are utterly unconnected.
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
by Jim McLennan on Jun 24, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll defer any further comment...
’til later, Jim.
It never even should have got to Renyolds
All we needed was a Sac fly to at least tie it.
Freeze it..and make a popsicle
Can We Avoid Having Dontrelle Start Ever Again?
I really prefer it when starting pitchers show at least a passing knowledge of the strike zone.
I realize that we are desperate for a fifth starter, but 7 walks is just terrible.
I'm working my way to grumpy old curmudgeon status with all the grace I can muster.
by pygalgia on Jun 24, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
and those 7 walks were in 2.1 innings.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Jim said,
7 walks for 7 outs.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
New toy's a bust.
Honestly – no snark, boys – someone should hang.
He was damaged goods, and that’s just his head.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
"...and is the reason 'why' really something we should be striving for?" - (guess who)
by victor frankenstein on Jun 25, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, it was painful to watch.
As horrid as his 1st inning was, his 2nd went pretty well. Then came the 3rd, which he did not survive. Maybe he should pitch in even innings only, I dunno.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 25, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What i woudl have liked to see
in the bottom of the 10th, with 1 out, when the Yankess moved the infield back to Dp depth..Why not just try a suicide bunt???? Had good speed in drew on 3rd. infield back.>it wa sperfect situation to tie it up.
Freeze it..and make a popsicle
Good point.
Although it probably would have only tied it, with a high probability of creating an out, but CY certainly has the speed to turn it into a bunt hit.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Using Rivera was Arrogant?
They CLEARLY dont trust Chan Ho GivesupballsoutthePark… He didnt want Chamberlain out there for another inning… and Rivera i think they have an off day today. he wouldve been an idiot NOT to use Rivera.
No, it was a smart move.
Teams with glass bullpens shouldn’t be throwing stones.
Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 24, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome
to the Snakepit?
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jun 24, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s arrogant
because I said it was arrogant.
That was an easy one! Let’s do another.
by Azreous
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Fair comment, really...
:-)
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
by Jim McLennan on Jun 24, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Two-inning appearances are what he does
See Game 7 in 2001, for instance.
Last night was the 91st such relief appearance of his career. It wasn’t arrogant, more “business as usual.”
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
by Jim McLennan on Jun 24, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Man,
of all the facetious, sarcastic and otherwise mean stuff I’ve said here over the years, none has created the fervor that mentioning a sacred Yankees reliever has. I’m equal parts impressed and amused.
Right
but that comment probably doesn’t get scrutinized if we’re playing the Pirates or some other team.
Quit drooling, vote for me.
Well
That’s just because Pirates fans need a MAN-THE-EFF-UP!!!
::headbutts a wall::
::punches out an opposing fan::
::high-fives his fraternity bros::
"Scott, if your life had a face, I would punch it. I would punch your life in the face."
Quick point
Last night was another game where the Diamondbacks were leading after five innings, but ended up losing…
"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson
A painful reality.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
by 4 Corners Fan on Jun 25, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions

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