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Diamondbacks 0, Los Angeles 1: Extra Agony With Your Walk-Off Loss?

Chris Snyder has known pain. But I suspect consecutive extra inning, walk off, 1-0 losses in Dodger Stadium may beat a fractured testicle.

Record: 20:34. Pace: 60-102. Change on last season: -3. Change on 2004: -1

The Diamondbacks extended their scoreless streak of inning to 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31, and kept the Dodgers offense scoreless for fourteen frames of their own. But in the end, a hitter who was batting .146 for the year, and who came into the plate appearance having gone 0-for-5 on the day, dropped a bloop that dies just in front of Chris Young. That scored the winning run for Los Angeles - it's the fourth straight walk-off loss for Arizona, the most since the 1989 Tigers. I am trying to find any previous occasion when a team lost consecutive games 1-0, both of them going to extra innings; I haven't found any example of it ever having happened before.

The road-trip finishes completely bereft of victories, and runs the losing streak to ten, the third-longest in franchise history. Five of them were by one run. Details after the jump.

Star-divide

All hail, Edwin Jackson. He reduced his ERA by seven-tenths of a run in one afternoon, giving Arizona nine shutout frames, allowing only three hits, all singles, and three walks, with six strikeouts. He followed up Dan Haren's 127-pitch outing last night by throwing 124 pitches - perhaps surprisingly, that wasn't a career high, as he had games of 126 and 132 pitches when with the Tigers last season. However, it was still our NL-leading fourth game where the Diamondbacks starter has thrown over 120 pitches. I must look into Pitcher Abuse Points for this team. Anyway, if we had given Jackson any support, it would have been our first complete-game shutout of the year.

Instead, Edwin became only the second Diamondbacks pitcher in franchise history to pitch nine zeroes and not be involved in the decision. Oddly, it wasn't the obvious candidate - Randy Johnson - who had been unjustly robbed of a W before, but Miguel Batista. Pitching against the Giants, he allowed one hit and one walk in May 2002, and left the game with the score tied at the end of regulation. In subsequent events that will probably feel horribly familiar to 2010 Diamondbacks fans, the bullpen then allowed the winning run to score for San Francisco, without bothering to retire a batter.

Since the franchise started playing, only two National League pitchers before today had thrown nine shutout innings, allowed three hits or less, and seen their team lose. Batista, as noted above was one; Javier Vazquez also managed the feat in 2003, when with Montreal. He three-hit the Padres, but they won 1-0 in ten innings. As for today, it's another quality start, another Arizona loss. Using the "Extended Quality Start" (7+ IP, three or less ER) preferred by Daron Sutton, in the NL this season, a team getting an EQS wins 73% of the time. The Diamondbacks record in such games is now 6-9.

The offense, meanwhile, continued to be completely dead in the water. We went 8-for-47 this afternoon, with one walk and no extra-base hits. Stephen Drew and Justin Upton each managed a couple of hits - Upton getting the sole free-pass of the days. But Kelly Johnson and Ryan Roberts combined to go 0-for-12 at the top of the order, and it's hard to get anything going in the face of such a lack of production. We were hitless in seven opportunities with runners in scoring position, three of them going to Young. We completed the road-trip having scored a total of seventeen runs in the nine games.

Though the bullpen were tagged with the loss in this contest - Cesar Valdez just not quite capable of getting through his second inning of work - this was definitely one of their better performances. Aaron Heilman pitched a scoreless tenth, despite a lead-off double, and Carlos Rosa was excellent, retiring all six batters he faced, with three strikeouts. He is looking like he might have been a decent pick-up by the team: in 7.2 innings of work, he has allowed six hits while striking out seven, a 3.52 ERA. It was a one-out wild pitch in the 14th by Valdez that was crucial - the subsequent ground-ball to second might have been an inning-ending double-play, but the runner was instead on third.

Still, the way the offense has been producing, this would simply have delayed the agony. It's good to see Dan Haren and Jackson getting back on track, but this has been countered with an offensive implosion. You don't expect to win every time when you score less than five runs, but in the 2010 National League that has been enough to see you to victory about 28% of the time. The Diamondbacks' record in such contests? 1-27. It's almost getting to the point of being eerie.

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[Click to enlarge, at fangraphs.com]
Master of his domain: Edwin Jackson, +64.3%
Honorable mentions: Rosa, +24.9%; Heilman, +12.5%
God-emperor of suck: Cesar Valdez: -25.1%
Honorable mentions: Young, -24.3%; Roberts, -19.6%; Johnson, -17.3%;
Ojeda, -16.8%; Ryal, -15.6%; Snyder, -15.2%

This has got to be some kind of record. Our pitching staff combined for a total of +76.6% of awesomeness - and we still lost. That would be because our hitters combined for -126.6% of suckitude. Like I said yesterday, the slogan for Diamondbacks' baseball needs to be, "Well, at least it's interesting." The three games in this series alone have been undeniably fascinating to follow, even if the end result has been depressingly familiar every time.

The sheer length of the game certainly helped pad the comments total - one dreads to think what it might have been like if it had been an evening contest [hey, as the designated recapper, I'm pretty glad this 4:16 contest didn't start after 7pm! It seems most of the team's uberlong contests are afternoon games] The 40 commentors in total is pretty close to a record, I think. DbacksSkins was back with a (sunburned) vengeance, posting 183 - wailord also got into three digits, with kishi in third place.

Full roll-call, and welcome to several newcomers today: Zephon, Baja F1, Jim McLennan, emilylovesthedbacks, Rockkstarr12, BattleMoses, kishi, overkill94DT, Jargamus Prime, Wailord, unnamedDBacksfan, hotclaws, DbacksSkins, pygalgia, mrssoco, 4 Corners Fan, Dallas D'Back Fan, dbacks4life, snakecharmer, luckycc, AJforAZ, edbigghead, Sprankton, Turambar, Bryan J. Boltik, Clefo, katers, SeanMillerSavior, blank_38, Jdub220, Pyromnc, TheSoundOfHockey, Plasmanut, marionette, SenSurround, Reynolds rapper, ChrisHansen, nolander, S.Fry and dima1109.

Comment of the day goes to Wailord for a nice piece of imagery which temporarily broke the tension

Augie
almost grounds into a double play, but JUp's like, lol, how you gonna get him out IF YOU HAVE NO LEGS /slide
by Wailord on Jun 2, 2010 3:32 PM MST

And so, back to Chase we come, with an off day tomorrow and then SNAKEPITFEST on Saturday, with what is rumored as the possible debut of Dontrelle Willis... At least the home-stand can't go any worse than the road-trip. Can it?

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You know what's funny about Miguel's game?

That was the day before my first ever baseball/Dbacks game. I went to the next night’s game, a 7-3 WIN.

Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco

by snakecharmer on Jun 2, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey

I think the Tigers had a worse night than us. anyway.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 2, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Dontrelle

He win break our winless streak Saturday, he’s my favorite black pitcher of all time. Yes as gaylord stated, they got robbed on that play

by YouHaveBeenBannedFromAzSnakepit on Jun 2, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

LOLZ

YOU’RE STILL AROUND!??

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Someone isn’t getting the message.

"Can you do me a weird favor without asking any questions?"
"Isn't that the bedrock upon which our friendship was founded?"

by kishi on Jun 2, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

we let SeanMillerSavior stick around his 3rd time?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 2, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say

we give him a final chance. Plus, the username makes me LOL, and he didn’t insult any specific posters this time.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You damned spitballer

(And yes, that could be a double entendre in this case)

by Clefo on Jun 2, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ಠ_ಠ

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 2, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

and recd.

I should have a mfin theme song.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 2, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's you?

Dude, I am TOTALLY gonna start calling you that.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm down with this

I laughed. Just as long as he keeps away from the keyboard when he’s had a beer too many… :-)

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Jun 2, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welp

I guess I’d better back away from the nuclear football.

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your nuclear football

causes LMD to PUI?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

YouHaveAlsoBeenBannedFromAzSnakepit may be available?

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Jun 2, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

SMS

if you’d like, we could ban you again so you can reclaim your record as “dude who’s been banned the most times from the Snakepit yet still has a new account”?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT

Someone should do a writeup for the frontpage about using instant replay in the MLB and hold a poll on it. I’m a terrible baseball writer, otherwise I would…

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 2, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

But

I’m grouchy and old and am opposed to instant replay!

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

oy vey

Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 2, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta

go watch Wheel of Fortune before Jell-o time.

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat related

my dad got úber-offended last night. He asked my mom “hey are we gonna watch Jeopardy! at 7?” and I was like “are you sure you guys won’t miss bingo?” and he was like raaaaaaaage.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 2, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ahahaha

you should have told him that was pay back for laughing at the D’backs losing on a walk-off balk.

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah well

it’s pretty much a running joke now, seeing as I’ve told my dad each of the last ten games that we’ve lost.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 2, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude,

you’ve got three fanposts up right now. Go for it! Hardly a terrible writer.

Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 2, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

One I had to throw together very quickly, one’s a link, and one’s for the fantasy league in case we need it. Then again, maybe this is something I can do with my summer off? Try to write some baseball pieces for the site and have people critique it…

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 2, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go for it.

The only way you get better is by writing more.

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Jun 2, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

'Skins

unless my math is incorrect, which is likely, you’ve contributed 17% of all Snakepit comments.

90% are you saying “+1”

Okay, that last part is a lie.

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Aw

I’ve only contributed 6.7% of all Snakepit comments.

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

More like

.1%

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do

but do you realize that I didn’t make any value judgment?

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

My post value is off the charts

I mean this blog is practically SeanMillerSaviorPit

by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 2, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

We can magnify the results down near zero so your value is evident.

"Can you do me a weird favor without asking any questions?"
"Isn't that the bedrock upon which our friendship was founded?"

by kishi on Jun 2, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's

been done before, and he doesn’t exactly have a long leash.

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 2, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not quite.

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle of SeanMillerSavior states that the given value of any specific post by SeanMillerSavior cannot be precisely calculated, because at any given moment, the very act of someone else OBSERVING said post MIGHT lead to SeanMillerSavior being banned again.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did Jenny

get the long-term tally working? How’d you figure that?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of tally

you’re about 55 comments away from your 70,000 mark.

Try Salsa on pancakes. Seriously. It's yummy.

by katers on Jun 3, 2010 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh shit... you're right!!

Should I have a party for 70k, or should we wait another week for 75k?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

:-)

whatever you want, babe.

Try Salsa on pancakes. Seriously. It's yummy.

by katers on Jun 3, 2010 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or maybe

we should wait for 2k more and celebrate my 60,000th Snakepit comment.

Or else I could work really hard at some other sites to be sure my 75k SBN and 60k SP comment align?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care.

It’s your post count. You do whatever you want. :)

Try Salsa on pancakes. Seriously. It's yummy.

by katers on Jun 3, 2010 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

I really DO wish there were a way to calculate “+1” %.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Magic

mod powers.

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 3, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blog Activity tab?

I think your math might be off. As of right now, I calculate that I’ve posted 20.4% of all Snakepit comments.

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 4, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

10 in a row

hooray beer

"Firing A.J. Hinch since 6/7/09"

by jonny-yuma on Jun 2, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

the natives on azcentral are in rare form tonight.

Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 3, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh geez

Do people really think the Diamondbacks management cares even the slightest bit about a Facebook group?

Also, why do people complain about how Hinch shouldn’t have been hired because he doesn’t have any managerial experience, and then talk about how Kirk Gibson should be manager?

"Can you do me a weird favor without asking any questions?"
"Isn't that the bedrock upon which our friendship was founded?"

by kishi on Jun 3, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, you and your "logic".

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by 4 Corners Fan on Jun 3, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like

some changes are coming. just posted some fan shots of a conversation Nick had with Kendrick.

Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Jun 3, 2010 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure there are

But I’m equally sure it has absolutely nothing to do with a Facebook group that has 200 members.

"Can you do me a weird favor without asking any questions?"
"Isn't that the bedrock upon which our friendship was founded?"

by kishi on Jun 3, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno if this is right

But on bbref, I tried to find the longest streaks with more than nine innings pitched where the team lost while only giving up one run, and it appears that you’re right, no other team has hit two in a row… just trying to learn bbref and stuffs, so figured I’d try to figure out what formulas to use. Is this what you used?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like mouth?
useless and hated

by Wailord on Jun 3, 2010 2:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I think I went a slightly different way

I went for the Pitching Team Streak Finder, Runs = 1, Losses, and then looked for cases where the total number of innings pitched was more than 18.

Same result though.

"It's not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." -- Brian Stimpson

by Jim McLennan on Jun 3, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I log in

And keep hitting F5 and yet I can’t get this page to ever show a win sigh

Time for another drink then?

http://www.wimbles.wordpress.com

by Wimb on Jun 3, 2010 4:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Stupid Microsoft/Mozilla/Google/Apple people...

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 3, 2010 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Small ball

We need a new manager that understands that playing small ball is what wins championships. In the “Bigs” all teams can play long ball. Long ball wins are highly dependent on luck. Small ball requires every player to learn to bunt, run and steal as well as learning to switch hit. The manager must forsake the temptation of “hoping” his slugger can come through when a player is in scoring position with less than two outs. The manager should play the odds and set the runners in motion with a bunt or steal. A mutch better gamble than swinging away. This way the ball is in play and you make the defense actually defend and most likely eliminate the double play. Swinging away should be the last ditch effort to move players around, when it works it’s exciting but as the Diamonbacks have shown the odds are against you and you are in for a long losing season. Every game should be played as if it is the seventh game of the world series. The Snakes need a new philosophy, something called winning as a team. When playing small ball the first team to score three runs usually wins.

by AZ retiree on Jun 3, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

A part of playing "small ball"

is learning to switch hit? Did I read that correctly?

Leads/ties blown by the Diamondbacks bullpen in '10: 20

by Jdub220 on Jun 3, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't quite get that.

I think our retired friend might be slightly confusing modern baseball with pre-1970s baseball.

With free agency, there’s no WAY you can afford to invest switch hitting training in your players. What, they switch hit for a year or two and then they leave?

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 4, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The offense is not broken

Even after our recent atrocious output, we are still 4th (4th!) in the NL in runs per game.

Playing small ball will not increase our chances of winning. Better run prevention will increase our chances of winning.

DBacks fan in Dixieland

by skoormit on Jun 3, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth

We fell asleep in the middle of the fury.

by soco on Jun 4, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tied for 3rd, actually

And that’s after this scoreless streak.

"Can you do me a weird favor without asking any questions?"
"Isn't that the bedrock upon which our friendship was founded?"

by kishi on Jun 4, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

better run prevention will increase our chances longterm, certainly

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 4, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome

to the Snakepit!!

Letting our bullpen pitch is like playing Russian Roulette...

...with an automatic.

by DbacksSkins on Jun 4, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson...

This team needs an enema.

"Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word."

by VladHammer on Jun 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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