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D-backs 9, Astros 1: We Come To Praise Cesar, Not To Bury Him...

Cesar Valdez: only 117 more wins to go to catch the Big Unit on the franchise list.

Record: 12-14. Pace: 75-87. Change on last season: +1

Cesar Valdez became the fifth Diamondbacks pitcher to win on their major-league debut this evening - it may not have been the most dominating performance of all time, but it got the job done, with a little help from the offense. Here's the full list.

Player Date Opp Rslt IP H R ER BB SO HR Pit Str
Cesar Valdez
2010-05-03 HOU W 9-1 5.0 5 1 1 3 2 0 96
59
Clay Zavada 2009-05-21 FLA W 4-3 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 0 13 9
Micah Owings 2007-04-06 WSN W 7-1 5.0 1 0 0 3 6 0 96 54
Edgar Gonzalez 2003-06-01 SDP W 10-4 5.2 10 3 3 3 4 1 101 61
Geraldo Guzman 2000-07-06 HOU W 2-1 8.0 4 1 1 1 3 0 93 61

Details after the jump.

Star-divide

Cesar Valdez didn't quite have the quick first frame in the majors, for which I'd hoped. It took him 33 pitches to get through it, and after 32 he only had one out. There'd been a couple of walks, a stolen base and a lucky bloop RBI double down the line by Carlos Lee, before Pedro Feliz kindly rolled into a double-play on #33. There was certainly plenty of movement on his pitches, but he seemed to be over-throwing, and his sinker wasn't sinking as much as scouting reports indicated, staying up in the zone.

Didn't seem to be much difference in velocity between his fastball and his change-up, and the batters seemed able to foul off pitches to stay alive. It was a contrast to Paulino, who in the second fired some 97 mph fastballs at Gerardo Parra, and then struck him out with a 78 mph curve. The second inning took another 24 pitches, including again a pair of free passes, in the shape of a walk and a hit-batter. The latter was the opposing pitcher. Who was trying to bunt. Valdez also got the benefit of a very generous 2-0 call, which helped him escape without further damage.

He did settle down, retiring seven of eight batters faced to end the fifth, including his first clean 1-2-3 inning in the fourth. That took him to 95 pitches, and Valdez was pulled for a pinch-hitter with two on and two out in the fifth. The final line on him: one run, earned, on five hits and three walks, with two strikeouts. The walks were high, especially for someone who has only walked 2.2 per nine innings pitched in the minors, but you can not complain about one run in five innings, even if it came against the worst offense in the National League. He also got groundballs, 11-4, another promising sign. His next start is Saturday at Chase against the Brewers: might be tougher.

He left with a 4-1 lead, and three-quarters of that had been provided by Chris Snyder, who deposited his fifth home-run of the season way back, it looked like it went over the train-tracks that run around the top of left-field at Minute Maid - it's a short porch there, but that was a majestic shot, and I'm curious to see where it ranks on Snyder's all-time list once hittrackeronline.com report on it. Snyder also picked up a couple of intentional walks, Adam LaRoche got a hit and two BB as well, and Mark Reynolds produced two hits and a walk.

The team as a whole racked up their sixth consecutive road game with 10+ hits, a streak surpassed only twice in franchise history. Every starting position player had a hit, and an RBI or a run. However, the other main half of the offense was Chris Young, who tied the game up with an RBI double in the second, and then dumped a two-run single to center as insurance in the seventh. Young had three hits on the night, taking his average up to the .300 mark, and giving him 24 RBI for the season. Last year, he drove in his 24th run of the season on July 9...

When Valdez left, since it was only a three-run lead, it looked like it might be a case of the resistible force, in the shape of the Astros offense, meeting the movable object known as the Diamondbacks bullpen. However, Arizona tacked on a lot of runs late, and the bullpen, naturally chose this evening to pitch four scoreless frames: Esmerling Vasquez looked especially good, with two innings of one-hit ball, though Blaine Boyer's mechanics still seem to be cause for concern. However, the result is what matters, and I think it's probably been a while since we got four consecutive zeroes out of our relievers.

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[Click to enlarge, at Fangraphs.com]
Master of his domain: Chris Snyder, +32.4%
Honorable mentions: Young, +16.5%; Valdez, +14.0%
God-emperor of suck: Kelly Johnson, -6.1%

A big spread of commentors contributing towards the 1,200 or so in the GDT. 'Skins and NASCARbernet were the only ones to reach 100, with no less nine others posting between 50-99. Present were: snakecharmer, Bcawz, emilylovesthedbacks, kishi, JoeStock, Muu, IHateSouthBend, BattleMoses, Sprankton, Rockkstarr12, Andrew T. Fisher, brian custer, SongBird, justin1985, hotclaws, 4 Corners Fan, Dallas D'Back Fan, Zephon, skoormit, SeanMillerSavior, Wailord, cody_zagg, singaporedbacksfan and katers.

Definitely the kind of game that is like a baseball sorbet, cleansing the palate of a disappointing series in Chicago. The Astros definitely have problem on offense, but are still major-league players, and the victory counts the same in the standings as over any other team. Here's to some more in the coming days.

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Maybe I'm missing an inside joke, but uh

“He left with a 4-1 lead, and three-quarters of that had been provided by Chris Snyder, who deposited her fifth home-run of the season way back…”

Anyway, nice recap. Any news on what’ll happen if/when Benson comes back?

Dude, we went fishing in Cabo.

by Wailord on May 3, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was wondering that too..

I didn’t correct it because I figured Jim might have a reason for it?

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO KELLY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DbacksSkins on May 4, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dork

Fixed.

Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco

by snakecharmer on May 4, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I s'pose

It depends. We could move Valdez to the ‘pen if he’s effective as a starter. Or keep him in the rotation and move someone else somewhere else. It’ll be interesting. Unless, of course, Valdez sucks and makes the decision easy.

http://xkcd.com/290/ (caution: profane)

by Dan Strittmatter on May 4, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

"her"

A freudian reference to “the” Snyder incident of a couple years back?

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8

by njjohn on May 4, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heilman

threw very well tonight.

This game is supposed to be fun, so play like it, or else. . .

by NASCARbernet on May 4, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

The whole bullpen did well

Heck even Valdez did really well – he really bore down (and got a few good calls) when he got into trouble, he managed to keep everything from getting worse. He didn’t give up base hit after base hit. I was very impressed.

Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco

by snakecharmer on May 4, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Any time you only give up 1 run, you have to be pretty happy with the pitching.

"I'm always insistent, Wodehouse. But I'm not to be trusted, am I?"

by kishi on May 4, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most definitely!

Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco

by snakecharmer on May 4, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Striking out two batters

Big for Heilman. I’m not sure Howry is salvageable for this season, but Heilman definitely is, as long as we have him start the innings he pitches in (in other words, refrain from giving him inherited runners of any sort).

http://xkcd.com/290/ (caution: profane)

by Dan Strittmatter on May 4, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't hear that much

he stinks during the big situation

by Rickfansince76 on May 4, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love valdez

i think he’ll be pretty good…..i keep telling my friends he’s like webb-lite

it’s great to see esmerling pitch well out of the bullpen. his numbers have been pretty filthy….around a .200 BAA so as long as he can keep the walks down he’ll be great

anybody else worried that reynolds does not seem to like sliding home? second time that’s happened recently…and we got lucky today, as i feel like reynolds was tagged out before reaching home. still, it seems worrisome, and i hope it’s not some weird injury

by blue bulldog on May 4, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't hype the kid too much

Webb-like may be a stretch (for starters he doesn’t throw nearly hard enough to be Webb), but the 8 ground-ball outs were my favorite thing about his game today. One thing I noticed – most of his pitches according to GameDay were fastballs and sliders. Actually, all of them were. But yet scouting reports on him I find have his best pitch as a plus change-up. Was GameDay just flat-out wrong, or did someone give him the worst advice in history and have him scrap a plus pitch in favor of worse ones? Heck, wouldn’t be the first SP we’ve seen this happen to… (coughEJcough)

Esmerling was awesome today. Two shutout innings is something we’ve seen too rarely from the ’pen.

Probably that nagging hamstring (hamstring, right?) injury he’s playing through. Kid’s tough as nails, though.

http://xkcd.com/290/ (caution: profane)

by Dan Strittmatter on May 4, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

GameDay was wrong.

He was definitely throwing his changeup too.

And yeah, I think it’s Mark’s hamstring that’s still sore.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO KELLY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DbacksSkins on May 4, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think he was throwing his changeup today

he just throws it too hard…

normally his fastball is like 89-90 i think and his changeup is like an 83-84? already very little difference between fastball and change velocity wise…but it looked to me that he was throwing an 86 mph pitch today which i thought was his change. at least, that was the pitch that kept breaking low a bit and inducing groundballs.

i’m not sure why EJ is doing so poorly….at some point i think we have to start wondering if it’s the pitching coach’s fault that a lot of the pitchers are underperforming to their career norms

by blue bulldog on May 4, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

So basically

He had a sinking fastball and an even-more-sinking fastball? Weird. I think it’s probably overthrowing from nerves. We’ll see that MPH split show up in future appearances.

And if that’s the case, it makes you wonder what IPK can really do..

http://xkcd.com/290/ (caution: profane)

by Dan Strittmatter on May 4, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

my theory was the same as blue bulldog’s — I think he definitely was throwing the change, but there wasn’t a huge gap in velocity with his heat.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO KELLY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DbacksSkins on May 4, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

yeah…i guess that’s one way of describing it

i think he changes the grip though when he wants to throw the “83-84 mph change”, otherwise i don’t know how/why people are categorizing his pitches into two different “fastball” and “changeup” categories. but honestly, i have very little idea as to how pitching works and is defined.

my guess though is the sinking fastball he throws at the 88-90 range is just the normal two-seamer we’re used to seeing, and he does something weird to the ball that we don’t really know about that gets the heavy sinking “changeup” action at the 82-84 mph (and he overthrew that pitch into the 86 mph range yesterday)

by blue bulldog on May 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes sense

Though I just watched a few of the hi-lights from his performance. Jeebus that change-up looks more like a split-finger to me… (and Mike Berger (sp?) agreed when he last saw Valdez)

http://xkcd.com/290/ (caution: profane)

by Dan Strittmatter on May 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i read that article too. it’s pretty funny how confused opponents are when they see that pitch

by blue bulldog on May 4, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

So now we’ll have to see if/when the scouting catches up to him.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO KELLY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DbacksSkins on May 4, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Sums it up.

http://xkcd.com/290/ (caution: profane)

by Dan Strittmatter on May 4, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

However, Arizona tacked on a lot of runs late, and the bullpen, naturally chose this evening to pitch four scoreless frames: Esmerling Vasquez looked especially good, with two innings of one-hit ball, though Blaine Boyer’s mechanics still seem to be cause for concern. However, the result is what matters, and I think it’s probably been a while since we got four consecutive zeroes out of our relievers.

I really love it when the team justifies my optimism.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO KELLY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DbacksSkins on May 4, 2010 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

YOUR optimism??????

Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco

by snakecharmer on May 4, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he's the giddy guy. . .

This game is supposed to be fun, so play like it, or else. . .

by NASCARbernet on May 4, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Remember what I said in the thread? My, how soon we forget.

I said I’m excited for the bullpen to come in and show me something.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO KELLY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DbacksSkins on May 4, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

snyder killed that one…

Did you hear Eric Byrnes is writing a book?
It's going to be a pop-up book.

by Muu on May 4, 2010 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Love this quote...
…it looked like it might a case of the resistible force, in the shape of the Astros offense, meeting the movable object known as the Diamondbacks bullpen

Too funny.

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8

by njjohn on May 4, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Hysterical.

http://xkcd.com/290/ (caution: profane)

by Dan Strittmatter on May 4, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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