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IHSB's (ft. Zephon) 2010 D-backs Top-50 Prospects List: Missing the Cut

Another Thursday, another episode of IHSB's Top-50 Prospects List (/cue standard introduction).  Now, I'll be the first to admit that this list is not perfect - far from it, as a matter of fact.  I'll also be the first to admit that I probably have some pretty serious disagreements with what I imagine is the general perception of the industry (this obviously being because I have little idea what the perception of the industry is).

But if you want a feel for some of the more obscure names we have down on the farm, or a few extra details on your favorite prospect or two, I think this will be the place for you to go.  Also, hopefully it will serve simply as a place where the general state of the system, or any players of interest, can be discussed, preferably ad nauseam, because I love prospects discussions.

The rest of the foreword nonsense, plus the actual prospect fun, after the break.

Star-divide

As per my Formatting Survey FanPost, this is going to be broken up into ten (subject to change) installments.  The first post was "Part 1: Falling Off the List (a.k.a. Where I Messed Up Last Year)," which was put up a week ago to begin my off-season vindication.

Today's post is "Part 2: Missing the Cut," a few players in the system that landed just outside of the top-50 on the list, vaguely within the 51-60 region - this will be the shortest post, since I have small-ish blurbs written about them rather than large anecdotes.

Thankfully, though, Zephon has joined up with me and provided a little extra insight on the guys here.  The plan then is for him to have his own prospect-by-prospect countdown at some point during "Part 3: The Top-50." This section will begin next week, with the first of two posts listing ten prospects each, #41-50 and then #31-40.  Following these two posts will be posts of five prospects each, #26-30, #21-25, #16-20, #11-15, #6-10, and finally #1-5.

 

Part 2 - Missing the Cut:

RHP Andrea Pizziconi - 10/4/1991 - 18 years old - Highest Level: Short-Season A - IHSB’s ’09 rank: N/A

Acquired by the D-backs as a Free Agent in September 2009.

2010 Stats – Rookie: 4 games, 9 1/3 IP, 6.75 ERA, 4.81 FIP, 5:4 K:BB, 1 HR, 41.2% GB-Rate / Short-Season A: 13 games (6 GS), 39 2/3 IP, 1.59 ERA, 4.54 FIP, 22:15 K:BB, 4 HR, 47.2% GB-Rate.

IHSB: The D-backs’ first foray into the European market produced mediocre rates backed up by fantastic results at the Short-Season level, and also dabbled in Rookie-ball.  Pizziconi is going to really need to improve headed into next year, though given his incredibly young age, he has plenty of time to do so.

Zephon: I was very happy to see the Diamondbacks enter the European market.  I don't really know all that much about Pizziconi, but a quick glance at his numbers shows that the 18-year-old has some promise.  50 IP really isn't enough to make any real judgment, so this guy is a wait-and-see for me.

 

RHP Rafael Rodriguez - 9/24/1984 - 25 years old - Highest Level: MLB - IHSB’s ’09 rank: N/A

Acquired by the D-backs in Dan Haren trade in July 2010; Signed by Los Angeles Angels as Free Agent in 2001.

2010 Stats - AAA (LAA): 37 games, 50 1/3 IP, 3.04 ERA, 4.19 FIP, 30:15 K:BB, 5 HR, 52.1% GB-Rate / AAA (ARI): 10 games, 13 IP, 9.00 ERA, 6.51 FIP, 7:6 K:BB, 3 HR, 58% GB-Rate / MLB (LAA): 1 game, 2 IP, 4.50 ERA, 5.20 FIP, 1:2 K:BB, 0 HR, 83.3% GB-Rate / MLB (ARI): 2 games, 2 2/3 IP, 6.75 ERA, 7.70 FIP, 2:1 K:BB, 1 HR, 50.0% GB-Rate.

IHSB: Rodriguez is a Quad-A caliber reliever acquired in the Dan Haren trade.  He works with a sinker and slider, neither of which are plus, though the slider is the better of the two and had some nice tilt in his brief exposure to the big leagues this year.  Unfortunately, he cannot miss a bat, and does not have good enough control to compensate for it, which will create issues for even the most ground-ball oriented of pitchers.  Strangely, Rodriguez was not brought back up as a September call-up.

Want a Rafael Rodriguez Fun Fact?!  I knew you did.  Back in 2005, Rafael Rodriguez was ranked the ninth-best prospect in the Midwest League by Baseball America (link).  Who was he ahead of?  Try Matt Garza, at #10.  The list was headed by Carlos Gonzalez (#1) and Homer Bailey (#2).  It's the little things in life that are the most amusing.

Zephon: I have no idea why Dipoto wanted this guy.  He's a AAAA reliever who just doesn't miss enough bats to be a successful major league reliever.  I don't think he even deserves to be in the almost-Top-50.

 

RHP Miguel Pena - 9/18/1990 - 20 years old - Highest Level: Short-Season A - IHSB’s ’09 rank: NR

Acquired by the D-backs as a Free Agent; debuted at D-backs' affiliate in 2008 (cannot find further details).

2010 Stats - Short-Season A: 15 games (15 GS), 75 2/3 IP, 3.45 ERA, 3.57 FIP, 47:32 K:BB, 2 HR, 61.2% GB-Rate.

IHSB: Pena was one of the most consistent starters in the Bears’ rotation, and it’s easy to see the key to his success with a simple glance at his stat line.  He doesn’t miss many bats, even in Short-Season ball, but Pena absolutely feasts on inducing ground balls from hitters.  If Pena refines his control a little bit, he could be a ground-ball oriented version of Joe Saunders – low rates, but solid results and lots of innings consumed.

Zephon: How have I gone without hearing about this guy?  Yeah, he walks a few too many batters and doesn't miss enough bats, but that ground-ball percentage is very nice.

 

OF Adam Eaton (blast you, Auto-Tag!) - 12/6/1988 - 21 years old - Highest Level: Short-Season A - IHSB’s ’09 rank: N/A

Acquired by the D-backs in the 19th round of the 2010 Rule 4 Draft.

2010 Stats - Rookie: 68 games, .385/.500/.575, 14 2B, 4 3B, 7 HR, 44:35 K:BB, .459 wOBA, .455 BABIP*. / Short-Season A: Joined for playoffs, zero regular season games.

IHSB: BABIP certainly helped Eaton out, but an OBP over .500 (and SLG of .575) is no easy feat.  The real tests will be whether or not Eaton can keep up solid numbers in full-season ball, and whether or not he can play center field.  If he can man center field, he’s a serious prospect, but if he needs to move to a corner, he is going to have to adjust to BABIP regression really well.  Similar to the team’s aggressiveness in the past with the likes of Paul Goldschmidt, Eaton could be given an everyday gig at Visalia in 2011.

Interesting factoid: despite playing in just 68 games for the Osprey, Eaton was hit by nineteen pitches.  It sounds to me like someone is crowding the plate a li’l bit.

Zephon: An incredible debut season, but I want to see what he can do at a higher level, as he was a little old for Rookie-ball.  I have a feeling BABIP is going to bite him in the ass next year.  The amount of HBPs reminds me of the insane amount Carlos Quentin had throughout the minors.

 

3B Matt Helm - 9/1/1990 - 20 years old - Highest Level: Low-A - IHSB’s ’09 rank: Also of Note

Acquired by the D-backs in the 7th round of of the 2009 Rule 4 Draft.

2010 Stats - Rookie: 32 games, .230/.302/.425, 7 2B, 5 HR, 50:9 K:BB, .310 wOBA, .362 BABIP*. / Low-A: 65 games, .210/.270/.275, 7 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 85:15 K:BB, .250 wOBA, .329 BABIP*.

IHSB: The D-backs lured Helm away from college baseball with a significantly above-slot bonus, but Helm hasn’t wowed in the low minors.  He displayed his power in Rookie-ball after struggling in full-season ball, so there is hope, but development is going slowly.  Helm’s potential is far above what this slot would indicate, but he needs to be putting his bat where his bonus is – that’s an awful K:BB rate for anybody at Rookie-ball.

Zephon: Probably one of the biggest disappointments this year was Matt Helm's performance in Low-A.  With the signing bonus he had, I expected a lot better from the home-grown product.  He did do a little better in Rookie-ball, but that strikeout-to-walk ratio leaves a lot to be desired.  There's still hope, though, as he is young.

 

RHP Bryan Henry - 2/15/1985 - 25 years old - Highest Level: AA - IHSB’s ’09 rank: NR

Acquired by the D-backs in the 12th round of the 2007 Rule 4 Draft.

2010 Stats - AA: 32 games (14 GS), 100 2/3 IP, 3.49 ERA, 3.73 FIP, 58:26 K:BB, 7 HR, 35.7% GB-Rate.

IHSB: Henry had a nearly identical season (not a nearly identical statistical line) to Kyler Newby‘s year – mediocre as a reliever and good as a starter.  The notorious quick-worker has been playing in the Pan-Am games this off-season with the likes of Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer, and is likely will start 2011 at Triple-A.  Henry doesn’t do anything well enough (miss bats, get grounders, limit walks) to be a serious prospect, though.  Potential swingman, nothing more.

Zephon: I don't think there's much I can add to what IHSB has already said.

 

OF Evan Frey - 6/7/1986 - 24 years old - Highest Level: AA - IHSB’s ’09 rank: NR

Acquired by the D-backs in the 10th round of the 2007 Rule 4 Draft.

2010 Stats - AA: 131 games, .286/.373/.356, 23 2B, 5 3B, 1 HR, 89:67 K:BB, .330 wOBA, .342 BABIP*.

IHSB: Frey repeated Double-A with some success, but still profiles as a backup outfielder if anything.  Doesn’t have enough pop in his bat to be an everyday player, and his plate discipline won’t be of much use if pitchers aren’t afraid of getting hit hard.  It’s a shame that Frey’s prospect outlook would be so much different if he were right-handed and could man second base.

Zephon: Frey is excellent defensively, but he just doesn't have the offensive skill set to be an everyday outfielder in the major leagues.  Perhaps he could be a solid fourth outfielder, pinch-runner (he is very fast), and defensive specialist, but I don't see much more of a future than that.

 

* Certain stats from minorleaguesplits.com, including all minor-league GB-Rate figures for pitchers, and some BABIP figures.

** Major-league GB-Rate figures from fangraphs.com.

*** FIP calculation is ( ( (3*BB) – (2*K) + (13*HR) ) / IP ) + 3.2

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Oh, so auto-tag

thinks we have the other Adam Eaton in A Ball? That’s funny.

Krauss watch 2010: 1-6 3R 2BB

by Reynolds rapper on Oct 14, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

“the one on this list is an outfielder… and probably a better pitcher too.”
lol

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by njjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's encouraging

to see guys like Pizziconi and Helm on this list. In year’s past their intrigue factor would have probably bumped them into the actual list. Shows what a good stock of kids we have (at least we hope so).

thanks, as always, for the work, you two.

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by njjohn on Oct 14, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

It's a shame though

That with guys like Pizziconi, and to a lesser extent Helm, that I can’t watch them ever. It’d be nice to be able to look at him throw and see how much projection he may or may not have. Having nothing but numbers on some of these guys kind of defeats the purpose of scouting.

Oh how much I want to get MiLB.tv next year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMMxIAn_76g - NSFW - "Now my blood feels like it's a bubble bath and you guys look like you're made out of cotton candy and this guy's a hippo!"

by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 14, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

good point. the access these days are so much better than it has ever been… but it’s still not easy to see.

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8

by njjohn on Oct 14, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we still

don’t have any idea what happened with Trevor Harden, despite our intarwebz access.

Did he ever really exist? Was he just a myth? Did he have off-field issues? Will he come back and be badass like Josh Hamilton?

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 14, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have asked Nick

I’ll let ya know when I figure it out.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 14, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick thought

Any chance future posts can include year and round drafted? It’d give us some kind of rough idea what the organization thought of them at the time.

Good stuff.

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Padres record the rest of the season: 27-28
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by Jim McLennan on Oct 14, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmmm

Will do. Editing time! (I need something to do)

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 14, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can also

manually untag Crappy Adam Eaton, too.

On another note, I move that we refer to the P as Crappy Adam Eaton and the OF as Awesome Adam Eaton.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 14, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

or, alternately

we could use the old Chris Young standby… ‘evil’ and ‘good’

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by njjohn on Oct 14, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

But Crappy Adam Eaton doesn’t play for a division rival, so he’s not “Evil”. Just crappy.

Besides, the “White” and “Black” thing is more common, and that wouldn’t really help much here.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 14, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have untagged him

But it’s just too amusing for me.

Or we could refer to our Adam Eaton as the “better-at-pitching Adam Eaton.”

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 14, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmph

Games played was supposed to give that idea, but admittedly it would be helpful. Argh. More work.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 18, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

YESSSSSS

MORE WORK FOR LAZY-ASS IHSB!!

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 19, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ass.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man.

Don’t be pissed at ME cuz you lazy, fool.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Helm's injured.

At least, according to his Twitter. Hamstring. Dunno how long he’s been like that, though.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 14, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work, as usual, dudes.

I love reading about disappointments in the morning.

Wear your own fur.

by Marc Fournier on Oct 15, 2010 4:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Well then

Discuss something. : )

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 18, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to get my list straight

Before taking yours apart :)

So far I can only say that I’m buying into Eaton. He’s probably a top 30 guy for me.

by paqs on Oct 18, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really now?

A 21-year-old riding a .455 BABIP in Rookie-ball is a top-30 prospect? The walks/HBP’s are incredible, don’t get me wrong, but just because Goldschmidt made the awesome jump to Hi-A doesn’t mean we can forget the likes of Jesus Cota.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He might be the next Cota

Or not.

I looked at the Pioneer league leaderboard for 2009 to see what those guys did in 2010. Some of the top guys flamed out, some treaded water in A ball, and some hit well in A+ and even AA.

Looking further back, more guys flamed out, but hey, it’s not like top-30 guys in our system are can’t miss prospects.

He’s probably the 6th best outfield prospect in our system, after Krauss, Cowgill, Pollock, Mateo and Broxton (in no particular order). Frey and Linton suck.

by paqs on Oct 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are some higher-upside guys

I find it hard to put Eaton ahead of any of the high school arms we just picked up in the 2010 draft (Green, Perry, Rowland, Bradley), a few younger arms (Schuster, Eichhorn, Burgos), and there are some enticing relief prospects at the Double-A level that I have above him as well (Shaw, Woodall, Gorgen, Collmenter, who sorta counts in this category – Munson also vaguely falls within this group despite having only reached Hi-A). Those guys all fall out of the top-18 (specific for a reason… :-P), but largely fill that 19-35 tier for me.

Though there are certainly guys in the back-end of my list (40’s, even late 30’s) that you could argue Eaton over. Guys in the upper minors whose upsides are specialist roles but have a higher probability.

Definitely agree that he’s #6 in the system, though.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 18, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

High school arms

Talk about a crapshoot.

Rowland and Bradley got smoked and Perry and Green didn’t pitch. At this point, it’s entirely projection.

I like Schuster and Eichhorn, but Burgos? The guy who walked 7 per 9 in Yakima, hitting 10 guys and throwing 10 wild pitches in 68 IP? Unless he throws 100 mph, I’m not buying.

And there’s nothing about Shaw’s career or season stats that jumps out, but we can debate these when the rankings come out :)

by paqs on Oct 19, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

But the 1 in 5 that work out to become #3 starters are instant surplus-WAR goldmines.

Shaw is 22 years old and just finished the year at Mobile (a.k.a. young) with solid numbers – keeps the ball on the ground at a decent enough rate and has a nice bullpen fastball/slider profile.

Burgos turns 20 in November. Eaton turns 22 in December.

Burgos has a serious control issue, but if he figures it out and fills out as expected, he could be deadly. It’s like dreaming on Leyson Septimo to figure out his control issues, except the reward is a starter instead of a freaking ’pen arm.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That

1 in 5 is very very generous. 1 in 50 more like.

Shaw will be 23 in a couple of weeks, and he doesn’t do anything particularly well. He does keep the ball on the ground, but that in itself isn’t much. Guys that were groundball pitchers in the minors tend to give up more fly balls in the majors.

Burgos is just a disaster. Septimo at least has an awesome K rate, so if he comes around (he won’t) he’ll be deadly, but Burgos isn’t even missing bats in short season ball.

by paqs on Oct 19, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 in 5 may have been generous

But 1 in 50 is absurdity.

Just because Burgos isn’t missing bats as a 19-year-old doesn’t mean he won’t when he fills out.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 19, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

How many college pitchers get drafted every year?

How many of them flame out? How many of them become career minor leaguers? How many of them become major league mop up relievers, spot starters, back end starters etc?

I think one no 3. starter in 50 is very generous.

by paqs on Oct 20, 2010 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

You might high school pitchers?

Because I’d wager that the majority of those don’t sign…

This is actually an interesting question, I’ll look into this later.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meant*

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

: P

It wouldn’t be that hard. Baseball-Reference FTMFW!!!

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Was that Double-A guy Jerry Sands? Because it would be epic if Eaton became Sands at the dish, particularly since he is better in the OF, as well. :-)

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 18, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sands, yeah

It’s doubtful, but even if he hits like Wheeler in Visalia, it’s not bad, considering the three level jump.

Apropos of nothing, do you think our top guys will make it into the top 100 lists? I’m thinking Davidson, Skaggs and Corbin mostly.

by paqs on Oct 19, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say no chance on Corbin

Davidson, Skaggs, maybe Owings. And Parker, of course.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 19, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that's a yes on Davidson and Skaggs?

Owings’ injury and plate discipline will probably keep him out.

by paqs on Oct 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so

It’s hard to argue with how freaking good they were last year, despite the flaws/risks.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

All prospects have flaws

Not that the top 100 lists matter, they’re as much hit and miss as your list.

Well, not really, but you know what I mean :)

by paqs on Oct 20, 2010 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch

But a valid point. : P

But seriously, Cole Gillespie and Kevin Mulvey were on top-100 lists before we acquired them. Woops.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frickin Gillespie

How I so wanted him to be all kinds of awesome for us!

I got nothin'.

by Bcawz on Oct 20, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Upton

sucked balls when he came up in 2007, too. I mean, he basically had that one awesome game where he nearly hit for the cycle his 3rd day in the league, but overall, he looked pretty bad.

Now, Gillespie is no Upton, but I’m just saying, don’t totally rule him out yet.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 20, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very very true

But to be fair, it’s been a year and a half since we got Cole, and over a year since we first called him up.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 21, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Upton was also 19

Gillespie was considered a potential fourth outfielder when we got him, and could still be that, nothing more.

by paqs on Oct 21, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely my point

Prospect stars are touch-and-go in their brightness and fading.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Ollie Linton

Ty Linton may yet be awesome.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd forgotten Ty amidst the horrendousness of Ollie

Ty Linton is definitely a better prospect than Adam Eaton…

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 19, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

"definitely"?

Probably, but not with any certainty. Dude’s a wildcard.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 19, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

IHSB’s man crush on Ty Linton notwithstanding :)

by paqs on Oct 20, 2010 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're paying him more (over five years) than we paid Wagner Mateo

While Mateo is a better prospect with a star-level ceiling, doesn’t that offer a little perspective?

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mateo HAD to take a huge discount

Because of his eye issue. You can’t ignore that eye issue in his prospect standing.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The probability

Of him getting to his ceiling? If the eye is fine, the same ceiling is there, but we (meaning I) don’t know the real medical scoop.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 21, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean

He obviously isn’t a five star prospect, all things considered.

If he was, he wouldn’t have signed for peanuts.

by paqs on Oct 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Linton

HAD to be bought out because he was going to play QB for UNC. That means the FO valued him pretty highly, but doesn’t necessarily mean he deserved it. (Although I think he did, personally)

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 20, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm,

You don’t pay a player if they aren’t worth the money… a football scholarship may up the price tag, but you only go for it if you think the player is still worth it.

And Linton was a linebacker/safety, I believe. : )

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 21, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're paying him more (over five years) than we paid Wagner Mateo

While Mateo is a better prospect with a star-level ceiling, doesn’t that offer a little perspective?

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

A comment so nice,

you made it… eh, nvm

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 20, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frickin...

Grrrrrrr internet.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 21, 2010 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

At this point,

Yeah, I’d say so. Being a wildcard is kind of part of the name of the prospect game. It doesn’t mean he’ll end up having a better career, but I’d much rather have Linton in my system right now than Eaton. Linton’s ceiling is much higher due to his raw power, IMO.

Linton was a fringe-first-round/second-round talent who slipped because of signability/football… one season of good production in Rookie-ball from Eaton does not elevate him to fringe-first-round/second-round-caliber.

Next year this might not all be the case, but it is today in my eyes.

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aw, poor Ollie

I don’t know anything about the dude, but his Twitter name makes me laugh.

"If it's not rolled in a pancake, it's not real American sushi."

by kishi on Oct 19, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here.

"If it's not rolled in a pancake, it's not real American sushi."

by kishi on Oct 20, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

yeah, that’s a good one.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 20, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truth

He could be a backup OF with some stellar defense, but he’s got serious questions to answer about BABIP…

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by Dan Strittmatter on Oct 20, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ttlly different.

Eaton isn’t from southern AZ.

Mr. Science Boy

by DbacksSkins on Oct 19, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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