Toros! Toros! Toros! Baseball in Tucson lives on
Even with the departure of the Sidewinders from Tucson, the Diamondbacks are not the only professional baseball outfit in the state of Arizona. The former owner of the Sidewinders, Jay Zucker, opted to keep involved with the game, and brought a franchise of the Golden Baseball League to Tucson. The Toros play at Hi Corbett Field, the current spring training home (albeit not for much longer) of the Colorado Rockies, and have done well in their inaugural season, leadin their division. The team also recently signed former Diamondback and 2002 All-Star, Junior Spivey.
At the suggestion of emilylovesthedbacks, and with 'Skins providing valuable logistical support, a get-together down in Tucson was arranged, and so Mrs. SnakePit and I headed down the I-10 to check out the newest addition to our local pro sports franchises. Details after the jump.
Our road-trip hit a pot-hole before we left, the rear-left window of the SnakePitMobile having jammed itself in the down position - not what you want in an Arizona summer. It turned out a box had fallen onto the switch in the back, jamming it on, and tripping a breaker. Fortunately, after some prodding by Chris, we managed to reset it, and hit the road, pausing only for iced coffee and a breakfast croissant at Jack in the Box. It looks nothing like the picture on the menu, yet still tasted pretty good, I have to say.
The advantage of leaving at 10:30 on Sunday was a clear run down to Tucson. As they have apparently been doing for at least the past decade, there are road-works on it, yet they didn't have too much impact due to the light traffic, and so we rolled into Tucson just after noon. The aim was to link up at Risky Business, a downtown sports bar, to watch the game, and so we went "right down Broadway," doing our best Mark Grace impressions as we rolled along the street of the same name.
'Skins had got there first, but after a week of sorry losses, we hadn't even bothered to turn the radio on for the first couple of innings, so were startled surprised shocked and amazed to see the Diamondbacks holding a 6-0 lead when we went into the place. I was delighted to discover both Pilsener Urquell and Stella Artois on the beer menu; I went for the former and plate of potato skins, while designated driver Mrs. SnakePit had a Coke and the calimari, and we settled down to watch the remainder of the game.
It was very much like a Gameday Thread, with less typing. Well, at least from me: 'Skins had his netbook, and katers showed up with her Sidekick, but I just couldn't get my fat fingers comfortable on the teeny netbook keyboard, and there wasn't really a lot of toom on the table for our behemoth of a laptop. So, I generally restricted myself to sardonic verbal comments, as the six-run lead got whittled away by the Astros. Still, the ending was good enough, with our team finally ending their long losing streak and getting a few hits with runners in scoring position.
After the game, Mrs. SnakePit and I headed off to the hotel, dropped our stuff off and chilled for a couple of hours, before reconvening at Hi Corbett. it's the first time I'd been there, and I didn't realize how long it had been active It was originally built in 1937, for the Class D Tucson Lizard, so pre-dates the post-war arrival of Spring Training in Arizona. It therefore has a great deal more history associated with it than Tucson Electric Park, which only opened in 1998. One of the cool things inside, is a 'Wall of Fame', listing all the members if Cooperstown who have played at the park - basically, just about everyone. Any list that starts with Hank Aaron is going to be worthy of note.
We linked up with 'Skins, katers, Zephon and emilylovesthedbacks, who were already there and paid the ten bucks which got us the best seats in the house - right behind the Toros on-deck circle, and also immediately behind the players' wives and their families [including Mrs. Spivey and their cute kids] To my delight, we were there on Dollar Dog Night, something of which I took full advantage, and the beers were more reasonably priced than Chase, with a bomber retailing for $7.50. They also had soft-serve ice-cream, made while you watched - if a sluggish process, it was one worth the wait.
A stern warning was broadcast over the PA that foul language would not be tolerated, though ironically, this was immediately followed by the playing of an unedited version of Sublime's What I Got, complete with its not quite so all-ages couplet, "But I got a dalmatian and I can still get high/I can play the guitar like a motherf_cking riot." Oops. Generally, however, the aim was clearly for a family-friendly atmosphere, with the PA announcer making heavy use of sound effects to accompany the game proceedings. While not something I'd want to see the Diamondbacks adopt, it kinda tied in with the minor-league feel.
That said, I was surprised how many players I'd heard of, especially on the visiting Orange County Flyers. Their line-up included Damian Jackson, best known for knocking Johnny Damon out in a 2003 ALDS collision, Scott Spiezio and Robert Fick, a player I had on my fantasy team a couple of seasons back. [Nice article in the Arizona Daily Star on Spiezio and his battles with substance abuse] Beside Spivey, the best-known name on the Toros roster was Dustin Yount, who was a couple of years above SnakePit Jr at Chaparral, and the son of Hall of Famer and former Dbacks first base coach Robin.
The GBL is reportedly thought of as being about Double-A level, and the difference between the play here and the majors was fairly obvious, most clearly in the field. Each side ended the night with a trio of errors, and there were a couple of other plays which probably would have been made by those in the big show. The starter for Tucson, Pete Hartmann, a 38-year old veteran who played in the minors from 1993-2004 without getting to the show, took the loss, giving up eleven hits and eight earned runs in five innings, most of the damage coming in a five-run second.
The Toros tried to claw their way into things, Spivey scoring the team's first run in the fourth, and they came back to make it 5-3 thanks to a two-run double from right-fielder Curt Miaso [whose other half was also immediately in front of us]. However, another five-run inning for Orange County in the sixth, ended this as a meaningful contest, and the Flyers ran out 11-5 winners, getting 18 hits off the home team's pitching. Though the Toros' Andre Marshall, a former Phillies prospect, did hit the night's only home-run in the eighth.
It was a thoroughly entertaining time, and a good warm-up for SnakePitFest next week, as we warmed up our pithy comments. Perhaps a bit too pithy, as it seemed 'Skins ended up needing to explain to one of the wives that when we said we hadn't seen Junior Spivey score a run since 2004, that it was simply because we hadn't seem him play since 2004... Certainly, if you wanted to heckle or encourage a player, you could do so, in the sure and certain knowledge that they could hear every word.
However, you've really got to support all the players, especially veterans clearly not playing for the money, with monthly salaries generally between $1.000-3,000. They're there because they love the game and can't bear to give it up, even if the chances of being called back, even to a minor-league affiliate may be slim. But who can say? For over 100 players have been sold to major-league teams since the GBL began in 2005, including Tim Wilhelmsen, Rene Garcia and Andrew Romo, Toros pitchers signed by the Brewers, White Sox and Giants respectively, earlier this season. Seth Etherton, a D-backs prospect currently in Triple-A, was also a GBL player in 2008.
The Toros currently lead their division in the second-half, and look set to make the playoffs in their first year, a solid success for the new franchise. Sunday's attendance of 1,413 was actually pretty small for the team, which has been averaging almost four thousand per game; it looks like the team will be rewarded with the GBL All-Star game, either next year or in 2011. I hope the Toros continue to do well - if I was in Tucson, I'd certainly be a regular attendee. The loss of the Sidewinders and the looming departure of spring training will hopefully not mark the end of pro baseball in the town.
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Fun tid bits. Thanks Jim. I really wish Spivey would have been able to have a longer career.
A 38 year old SP??? Wow. There’s a man either totally devoted to baseball or with no secondary skill set whatsoever. I’ll believe it is the former and think great thoughts of him.
Just took in a Trenton Thunder game myself this weekend (AA Yankee affiliate) and really enjoyed it. It had been a long time since I’d gone to a minor league game. One thing that struck me was that my kids (3 and 5) enjoyed the game a lot more than the pro game… we were unbelievably close to the action, seated next to a half dozen scouts with radar guns (kids were really interested in those). Lots of stupid kid-friend activities between the innings and reasonably priced food. I’m definitely going to head back.
The whole experience was made better by the fact that I was able to watch the D-Backs on my iphone at the same time. Baseball gluttony!
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Oh yes, the Trenton Thunder. I went to the games all the time while I was attending Katzenbach (a school for the deaf in West Trenton on Sullivan Way). Good times.
I had a nice time at the game. Can’t wait for Saturday!!! :-)
And people say I'm cynical, they never want the truth but life will have more twists and turns than found in any book....
Hey,
tell the story about running into Tuffy at that party!
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
The one I told you about last night?
or the one I told you at the game?
And people say I'm cynical, they never want the truth but life will have more twists and turns than found in any book....
Um...
I don’t think you told me a story at the game, so much as told me you knew him. I meant the one you told me last night.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Oh okay...
So…well…. last night, I was at friend’s farewell party where I ran into Tuffy. He asked if I was at the game on Sunday night. I told him that I was and where we were sitting. He was in snitch laughing and was telling my friend about how loud and obnoxious Phil was at the game. He was sharing a story about how Phil was heckling at one of the players, how he overheard Phil then recognized me and decided snaking up behind us and scared us a little.
Then he asked me where did I find Phil because he’s hilarious. Every time Phil make a remark, he couldn’t stop laughing. :-P
And people say I'm cynical, they never want the truth but life will have more twists and turns than found in any book....
wonder why phil wanted to hear that story again ;)
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
For the record,
she added in “loud and obnoxious” for the benefit of the Snakepit.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, surprisingly,
I think she added in “hilarious” for the benefit of the Snakepit, too.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Nice recap Jim
Emily and I had a ton of fun, even though we couldn’t make it to Risky Business to watch the game. I definitely think we should do another tucson snakepitfestapalooza next year.
Heckling/cheering the players was good times. Of course I couldn’t yell out some of the truly bad things at the players, since their wives were there, but it was still a lot of fun
The sound effects were extremely random, and rather annoying at times. So were the extremely drunk people sitting behind us, constantly cheering the other team, and heckling the toros. they weren’t even good heckles either.
The spivey kids were extremely adorable, and from what i can tell, they made katers and emily’s ovaries ache. lol
"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair
by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
Speaking of heckling,
I feel kinda bad for heckling Scott Spiezio, after reading that Star article that Jim posted. :-\
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Pictures
The communal Snakepit beer, purchased by DbacksSkins and consumed by katers and Zephon:

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Zephon, emily,
and the Snakepits in the background

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Tuffy gets lynched by kids between innings...

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
...but seems none the worse for wear.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Hmm
Can we trade Baxter for this guy?
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
I suppose
the Dbacks could buy his contract, a la Clay Zavada, but he’d have to start out in the low minors.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Works for me
DFA Baxter!
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
DFA Baxter!
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I just looked at this picture again and realized something — there’s something going on b/w Tuffy and Ms. Brown shirt. She is seriously nuzzling up to him…
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
well u know what they say
some ladies just can’t resist a man in uniform.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
Yeah....
I noticed that too, but I decided not to say anything.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 26, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
L-R:
katers, Zephon, me, emilylovesthedbacks, Mrs Snakepit, and Jim

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
I feel like an odd duck
for not wearing a DBacks t-shirt. =\
And people say I'm cynical, they never want the truth but life will have more twists and turns than found in any book....
Jim looks like he’s representin’.
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
Representin'
with the $.99 store hat!
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so sorry I missed it!
Stupid migraine. You think it’s too late to exchange my head for a better, pain-free model?
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
You could get
Ted Williams’ head. It’s still frozen in cryonics.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Go to your doctor.
And get on topomax. It’s the only reason I can handle migraines anymore.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 26, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
The last time I talked to my doctor, he said because my migraines were generally irregular he didn’t think medication would do much for me.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
It's a preventative
so you take it every day. No joke, I used to have migraines 2-3 a week, and now I get them maybe once a month, and when I do get them, they’re much, much easier to handle.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Aug 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah
See, I’m more a once a month migraine gal, but my headaches (not migraines, just headaches) have been more common recently. Still, it’s been awhile since it’s been so bad that I’m practically crying and just wishing for someone to make it stop. I blame stress. Stupid upcoming move.
But that’s awesome it’s working so well for you. I sympathize, I really do. If I had them more often like that, I don’t know what I’d do.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
Yup
I’m moving. Labor Day Weekend and I will be laboring. I also get to lose my cable/internet for almost two weeks during the transition, so no more baseball.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
Staying in Tucson, at least?
Because we can’t afford to lose another Tucson Snakepitter. :-\
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Absolutely staying in Tucson
Just down sizing to a smaller place now that I’m going to be living alone.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
Ahh.
Roommate moving out?
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
If this had been posted about over on dbbp, I would have gone :( lol. I see how it is…. jk
Over there, I am Justin. Real imaginative. lol
Next year.
Partly because you’re now a Snakepitter, but also because we should be sure to post something over at DBBP as well.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

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