Diamondbacks trade deadline news and rumors
by Jim McLennan on Jul 27, 2009 5:03 PM EDT
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PrintYeah, I know I said I was going to do one of these every Monday, but there has really been very little worthy of mention in the past couple of weeks. However, as we get closer to the deadline, I think there may be a little more activity; here seems a good place to put everything short of an actual deal announcement, which of course, should be a 'proper' story by whichever author gets to it first. In the meantime, after the jump, you'll find what's going on at the present time - brief summary, "not much" - and some random other nuggets.
FoxSports.com are reporting that "trade activity has been light on Diamondbacks starters Doug Davis and Jon Garland...but Arizona officials are optimistic that the market will pick up in the final days before the deadline."[Thanks to AJforAZ for the tip on that one]. They may be optimistic - Peter Gammons quotes one GM as saying, "We've looked at Doug Davis, Jon Garland, Kevin Correia, Ian Snell and the long list of available starting pitchers and do not see anyone we would give A- or B-list prospects to get." But it's also reported that the Cubs may be looking at Davis and Garland.
Scott Bordow of the Tribune discusses the potential for trading Chris Snyder and reckons it's almost certain to happen during the off-season: "His time in Arizona is coming to an end." While there's no denying his abilities, the contract extension which Snyder signed [paying him $4.75m and $5.75m the next two years, with a $6.75m for 2012 with a $750K buyout] would seem to over-value him based on his production this year, so will likely restrict the number of potential partners.
Given his recent surge, it's appropriate our colleague over at Minor League Ball has covered Miguel Montero in his latest Prospect Retro piece. With regard to the Snyder situation, he says, "I’d pseudo platoon them….Montero plays against RHP and against lefties that I think he can handle. Snyder spots against tough lefties and enough playing time to keep Montero fresh." Not related to the current deadline, but did you know Arizona made a stab at getting Mark Teixeira from the Rangers two years ago? "The Diamondbacks came in at the last minute, but the Rangers weren't interested in first baseman Conor Jackson," according to this report analyzing the deal.
And if you want a good laugh, it appears Washington are still gleeful over trading us Jon Rauch: "Clear he was dealt at the top of his value - and there are still members of the Nationals' front office talking about how well they fared selling high on Rauch." O RLY? Emilio Bonifacio had an OPS+ of 70 for the Nats before being shipped to Florida (63 OPS+ there), while Rauch has had a 91 ERA+ for us and seems to have cured what ailed him. If Washington think they made out like bandits there, little wonder they're the worst team in the majors.
Finally, the back-to-back shutouts of the Pirates' offense hurt their fans in more ways than a simple defeat. For every run they scored over the weekend, the team were going to take $1 off the price of its left and right field box seats for a series against Washington [well, got to sell them somehow...]. Those tickets ordinarily go for $24, and Friday night's 10-3 win reduced them to $14 - perhaps fortunately for Pittsburgh management, that was as far as it went. Mind you, if the score had been repeated on Saturday and Sunday, would they have paid people $6 to go to the game?
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Yeah, players with four or more years of control left are dealt ALL THE TIME.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Other teams
have coveted Upton for YEARS, but they KNOW he’s all but untouchable.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
I bet
that when Allen comes up, you’re going to have problem with him too. No matter how well he’s doing.
"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair
by C. Wesley Baier on Jul 27, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But
isn’t he a white guy?
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 27, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh.
Yeah, AZBOMBERS is gonna hate him.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 28, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Is AZBOMBERS spewing his venom HERE too? The guy is a racist! He was spewing his crapola all over the DBACKS MLB board till we chased him from there
"You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"--
Pitcher Eddie Harris in the movie "Major League"
by Rockkstarr12 on Jul 30, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
This...
Makes sense.
Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This...
Makes sense.
Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
A comment so nice
you made it twice?
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
My internetz are sucking
Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
PostingFAIL.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
who cares
as long as he can hit a bit and catch pick off throws better than what we’ve seen so far this year
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
ROFLMAO
On the Nationals.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
well based on some of the stuff I read from folks based out east
they think that they can get Justin Upton for a 2nd string catcher and a couple of middle relievers with 5+ ERA’s. Perhaps it’s simply the overall attitude, but the team and it’s players are not held in high regard by the fans (and considering their on field production, I can’t complain too vigorously) of other teams, but I do see some very nice building blocks in place.
1) Upton, Reynolds, and Drew (and possibly Montero) should form the nucleus that the FO builds around for the everyday lineup.
2) Why does everyone consider Webb as automatically a goner next year? Is it cash or questions about his health, I would think that the timing of the injury would dampen the market and make his resignability more of a reality, but then again, I’m not rich and I don’t own the team.
3) a pitching core of Scherzer, Haren, Qualls, Rauch and some of the young guys (Valdez, Guitierrez) look like they can play for the most part. Looks even better if the Dbacks can keep Webb in the fold.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
1. Agreed. You can throw CoJack in there, too, assuming he doesn’t come down with Marburg virus or some other odd disease next year. Next year, it’ll be time to fish or cut bait on CY, though.
2. Cash AND questions about his health, I’d say. As mentioned in another thread, we really don’t have the kind of money that other teams will throw at even an injured Brandon Webb.
3. Don’t forget Jarrod Parker! Hopefully Zavada can be included in that mix, as well as some of our B-level prospects like Torra and maybe Augenstein.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
And Wes Roemer.
He should be ready by mid-next season. He has risen quickly, as expected, and is currently due for a AAA promotion.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Roemer.... yes!
I had him on the tip of my tongue but couldn’t remember his name.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
He's going to be on my prospect write-up at some point
Destroyed Hi-A, and has been good against AA. Set to have a two-promotion year by September, if not sooner.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t think everyone considers Webb automatically a goner next year. in fact, i haven’t heard that sentiment anywhere. there are questions about whether or not we should pull the trigger on the extension, but that’s all.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Not related to the current deadline, but did you know Arizona made a stab at getting Mark Teixeira from the Rangers two years ago? “The Diamondbacks came in at the last minute, but the Rangers weren’t interested in first baseman Conor Jackson,” according to this report analyzing the deal.
I remember hearing about that at the time, but I’m pretty glad we didn’t.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
....then again,
with Tex in our lineup last year, we likely wouldn’t have had nearly as many offensive problems, and probably would have hung on to the NL West.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Agreed
And while Co-Jack would probably be raking in Texas, and we’d be complaining about it now, it’s probably better than the current alternative (although I’m keeping optimism for next season).
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We finished 2 lousy games behind L.A.
Webb’s 3 consecutive losses (plus Haren’s 2) against LA, SD and LA put a fork in it.
We finished 2 games behind
because after LA wrapped up the division, they took their foot off the gas and lost their final 2 games, and we won ours.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
There
was a stretch of time right at the end of the season when all of the starters seemed to collectively crap the bed.
I was so lucky getting mono. That was like the best diet ever.
Yeah, that's true.
We sorta suffered a team deadarm period towards the end there.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 28, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
they took their foot off the gas and lost their final 2 games
i always find statements like this highly suspect. if they wouldn’t have “taken their foot off the gas” is it guaranteed they would have won both games? one of them? nope.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Well,
we won both and they lost both, meaning they had a 4 game lead going into the final two. THAT’S what my statement meant. The division wasn’t quite as close as it came off last year.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
the contract extension which Snyder signed [paying him $4.75m and $5.75m the next two years, with a $6.75m for 2012 with a $750K buyout] would seem to over-value him based on his production this year, so will likely restrict the number of potential partners.
O RLY??? Just to cruise through some of the catchers in the league who have signed their first contract:
Chris Snyder, 28, career OPS 737, 2009 salary $2M
Brian McCann, 25, 835, $3.7M
Greg Zaun, 38, 731, $1.5M
Jason Varitek, 37, 785, $5M
AJ Pierzynski, 32, 757, $6.25M
Victor Martinez, 30, 832, $5.9M
Yorvit Torreabla, 31, 700, $3.75M
Gerald Laird, 29, 686, $2.8M
Ivan Rodriguez, 37, 811, $1.5M
Miguel Olivo, 31, 691, $2.7M
Russel Martin, 26, 786, $3.9M
Jason Kendall, 35, 753, $5M
Brian Schneider, 32, 701, $4.9M
Jorge Posada, 37, 859, $13.7M
Benjie Molina, 35, 723, $6.5M
Kenji Johjima, 33, 720, $7.7M
Yadier Molina, 27, 684, $3.3M
Rod Barajas, 33, 694, $2.5M
Looks to me like a catcher in his late 20s with an OPS in the mid 700s at $4-5M per year is a nice find. I mean, other than McCann, Martinez, and Martin (and probably Yadier Molina b/c of his defensive prowess), there isn’t a contract in the bunch I’d rather have (and obviously, my hunch is that all of those contracts escalate like Snyder’s does).
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
I'm not sure
that list really strengthens your argument. Just for the record.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 28, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Well...
It needs to be taken with a few points in mind. I.e.Varitek, Pudge, Kendall, Posada, and Bengie all being old, Pierzynski sucking on defense, etc. Snyderman has value with his modest extension.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 28, 2009 5:59 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly. looking at the list with age and performance in mind snyder’s value rises to the top.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
The one that comes to mind quickest
Is Detroit with Laird. I don’t think anybody thought that was a good signing at the time, and still isn’t going well for them.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 28, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
just b/c it wasn’t a good signing doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and doesn’t help create the framework for what good/bad catcher value is.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Oh I know
That’s not what I was trying to say. I was trying to say that if you’re the Tigers, don’t you go after Snyder? If you really want to contend over the next couple of years?
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 28, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
exactamundo. not to mention the brewers, bosox, mets, phils, etc, etc, etc.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Jason Kendall...
Those other guys aren’t ready.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 28, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
They're not going to change catchers this year
Salome is probably coming up in September as well. And hey, our emergency catcher, McGehee just hit a HR…
You've said yourself that Salome is a question mark
Snyder’s not. Plus Salome would probably not be on the playoff roster unless he really tore it up. It would be an upgrade. Two years down the road, who knows, but they seem to want to win now.
Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions
man… IHSB is just pointing out that it was just a few months ago you yourself were pointing out that Salome is not a top tier prospect.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Not 2 years until he's in the majors
Two years until there’s a chance he’s more productive than Snyder. But Snyder has him destroyed at the moment.
Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
why not? you’ve got to be more specific.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Because
you’re only mentioning this season’s salary, making it somewhat irrelevant. (I.e., if you want to gauge return for the money for THIS year, you’d have to mention something like WARP for each of the above catchers — and that’s going to dock Snydes for being injured.) The original quote you were responding to was in reference to salary for next year, and Snyder’s salary more than doubles. Next, we’re talking about a guy who’s probably about to become a backup catcher. The salaries you list are all starters, and that’s a very big distinction…. again, if you’re including actual production, whether or not his career OPS is 1.500, his production is going to drop with reduced playing time next season, yet for a higher salary. Finally, since Snydes’ home park is Chase, (the stadium with the highest park factor this season) his OPS isn’t going to give you a fair comparison with the others. Let’s go by career OPS+ instead:
McCann, 124
Posada, 124
Martinez, 118
Pudge, 109
Martin, 104
’Tek, 100
Kendall, 97
AJ, 95
Zaun, 91
Johjima, 91
Bengie Molina, 87
Snydes, 87
Schneider, 83
Yadier Molida, 79
Olivo, 79
Torrealba, 79
Laird, 78
Barajas, 77
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 28, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Saying that Posada is the second on any list of catchers currently in baseball
When he’s about to no longer be a catcher kind of shows what this list means. Then again, John had him first in his… It’d be better if it were, say, the last two or three years, but not even I am going to dig that stat up. ;-) The facts are the facts, Snyderman is to most an above-average starting catcher (when you consider the likes of Olivo, Torrealba, Laird, Barajas, the old fogeys, etc. this is hard to dispute), average at worst, today, and is signed to a relatively-cheap contract. His trade value will be diminished by the fact that he’s currently going to be backing up Montero, but whoever deals for him, if they do get a reduced price, is going to get a steal.
Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 28, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
a few bones to pick:
1) snyder may be a backup catcher if he remains on the d-backs next year, but i’d venture to say he’d be on a starter on more than half of mlb rosters.
2) sure ops+ is a better indicator, but by taking the ages off the list you more than scew the information in the other direction. in reality only mccann, martinez, and martin are preferable based on age + ops+ factors.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
one more bone to pick: sure, snyder’s salary will be going up, but it’s likely that a lot of the younger catchers on the list also have escalating contracts or will be coming up for arbitration (i haven’t looked it up, but i’d venture to guess mccann, martin, martinez, y molina would fit in that group).
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
I'm also curious
as to how you chose the catchers you chose to list. You left off guys such as Iannetta (26, 103), Nick Hundley (25, 85), Soto (26, 112), John Baker (28, 113), Josh Bard (31, 94), Ryan Hanigan (28, 103), Doumit (28, 107), Dioner Navarro (25, 79), Mauer (26, 133), Kelly Shoppach (29, 100), Mike Napoli (27, 122), Salty (24, 85), Kurt Suzuki (25, 97), etc.
Obviously, guys like Iannetta, Mauer, Napoli and Salty are probably not for sale, but it DOES dillute your argument a bit.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn’t have enough time to hunt around and figure out if guys had actually signed their first contract or not, so i just went by whether or not i thought they had 3 years or fewer of mlb service time (without spending the actual research time to figure it out). i’m sure i missed some, but it wasn’t done to make the argument stronger. some of the guys on my list (martin, mccann?) probably are in contract where they had some of their arb years bought out, so it probably evens it up.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
in other words, i don’t think the argument is dilluted at all… b/c guys who haven’t come up for FA are a different animal than those who have.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Snyder
Has never been a free-agent. He had a little over four years service time coming in to this year, so wouldn’t be a FA until the end of next year. The new deal basically bought out his two remaining arbitration seasons and the first year of free agency, along with a club option for 2012. So you need to compare him against what other arb-eligible catchers are getting, to decide whether or not his contract is a good one. There aren’t many who’ll average over $5m in arbitration over their last couple of years before free agency.
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by Jim McLennan on Jul 28, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, that’s fair enough. But that’s a different debate. My point wasn’t to debate the merits of Snyder’s contract as signed by the team but to debate the accusation that the contract was prohibitive to other teams and diminished Snyder’s value.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
by njjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Some stuffs from piecoro
Deadline update: Still stagnant
With Friday’s non-waiver trade deadline approaching, it still sounds like the Diamondbacks aren’t anticipating any deals.
Part of this is a lack of motivation on their part, at least when it comes to closer Chad Qualls, who won’t be eligible for free agency until after next season. Part of it is a lack of genuine interest from other teams in pitchers Doug Davis and Jon Garland.
From what we’re hearing, there aren’t a lot of teams clamoring for Davis or Garland, despite their names popping up in several reports in recent days. And the teams that have inquired haven’t made an offer the Diamondbacks consider intriguing.
The Diamondbacks apparently are not asking for other teams’ high-end prospects – more like the bottom half a top 10 list – but they are keeping 2010 in mind, particularly with Brandon Webb’s situation is up in the air. With Garland, there’s a 2010 option. With Davis, if they deal him they lose that exclusive negotiating window.
As for Qualls, ESPN’s Buster Olney explained the Diamondbacks’ position pretty well in his blog this morning.
His main points:
*The Diamondbacks want to compete in 2010 and dealing Qualls creates a major hole in the bullpen.
*They don’t normally spend a lot of money on free-agent relievers.
*If they fall out of contention next year, they can try to move him before next year’s deadline.
A couple of points we’d like to add:
*Qualls isn’t going to be expensive next season, probably somewhere in the $4 million range, so he’ll be an affordable and proven commodity as a closer.
*He most likely is going to rank as a Type A reliever, meaning he would bring back two draft picks if/when he departs via free agency. That makes the Diamondbacks’ asking price for him even higher, so it’s not surprising the Diamondbacks’ have yet to be blown away by an offer yet.
"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair
by C. Wesley Baier on Jul 28, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
Btw, what did we do b/ Nick P. It’s good to know there is at least one writer in the valley who know baseball.
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-- Bruce Catton
by njjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Otherwise, we'd have to.... ::gulp::
read Dan Dickley…
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 28, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll give Bickley this
He did write a good piece on Reynolds a week or two ago.
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
Are you sure
it was on Reynolds? Are you sure it wasn’t on Aramis Ramirez?
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Jul 28, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, it was weird!
I had to re-read it a few times to make sure I hadn’t hallucinated the whole thing.
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
Yeah, I read it actually.
And it’s actually almost EXACTLY how I describe Reynolds when I tell people why I like him. He’s so “perfectly imperfect” as a player…. 16th round draft pick, comes up from Double-A, never relinquishes his spot, has hands of stone yet will also make an amazing dive into the crowd, sets the record for strikeouts yet hits some of the deepest home runs you’ve ever seen, publicly calls out the team for a lack of effort, etc.
I love that guy.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Hmmm...
has hands of stone yet will also make an amazing dive into the crowd
So, it’s okay to be fundamentally unsound, as long as you make highlight-reel plays once in a while?
sets the record for strikeouts yet hits some of the deepest home runs you’ve ever seen
And it’s okay to go up there hacking and making outs, as long as you provide the money shot once in a while.
I don’t necessarily think those things of Mark, but that certainly appears to be what you’re saying. In fact, it kind of sounds like you’re saying you like the guy who’s got all the flash, but whose substance is lacking. What’s the name of that guy who gets hated for being just that kind of player? You know, the guy whose fans get treated like idiots because they like the guy who puts on a show, even if he also makes boneheaded moves in the field and at the plate?
by azshadowwalker on Jul 29, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
First of all,
last I checked, we’re not paying Mark Reynolds $30 million to make a TV show about himself.
So, it’s okay to be fundamentally unsound, as long as you make highlight-reel plays once in a while?
The guy was born to play 1B. What I mean about diving into the crowd is that he’s not afraid to sacrifice himself to get the out.
And it’s okay to go up there hacking and making outs, as long as you provide the money shot once in a while.
Not at all, but what I’ve repeatedly said is, I don’t care if Mark strikes out everytime he makes an out, so long as he produces otherwise. He’s 2nd in the majors in home runs, but more importantly, (and I’ll bring this up ‘til the cows come home) he’s improving his game — he’s leading the team in walks, HRs, extra base hits, RBIs, runs scored, stolen bases, etc. In fact, he’s now passed Upton as the team’s most valuable hitter (OPS+ of 135 vs. 130). He’s batting nearly 20 points lower than Upton, yet his OBP is only 2 points lower. His slugging is off the charts. FanGraphs concurs that Mark produces, and gives him extra points for being “clutch”, putting Mark at a +2.58 WPA vs. a +1.24 WPA for Upton. (Next closest on the team are Miggy and Drew, at only +0.66 and +0.58 respectively)
It’s not a question of flash and dazzle. The guy actually PRODUCES.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
{{thud!!}}
What’s the name of that guy who gets hated for being just that kind of player? You know, the guy whose fans get treated like idiots because they like the guy who puts on a show, even if he also makes boneheaded moves in the field and at the plate?
get over it already. EB22 is a flat out bust. His “show” as you call it is as lame as they come, end of line
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Jul 29, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Helpful. Thanks Zephon. I really would like to see us move some pieces: Garland, Tracy and Snyder would probably be my top three. But I understand why that’s unlikely to happen and am fine if we stay pat.
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-- Bruce Catton
by njjohn on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mine, too
Those are the three players I’d most like to see moved, as well. Garland because I can’t stand the guy and I don’t see him hanging around, anyway. Tracy because I believe he’s too risky for too little reward, and the team has options/prospects that are as good, if not better, at both of his positions. Snyder because I think Miggy is better on offense, and not markedly worse on defense. Too bad it doesn’t look to be happening. On the Davis front, I’d kind of like to see the team re-sign him, although I don’t know if that’s going to happen.
by azshadowwalker on Jul 29, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Of all of these possibilities
The Garland trade, Tracy trade, Snyder trade, and Davis extension, I’d rate them in order of likeliness to happen as such:
1) Chad Tracy Trade – We don’t want him, are selling for cheap on him, and everybody could use a good lefty pinch-hit bat.
2) Doug Davis Extension – Our farm system is only going to give us one, maybe two, quality starting pitchers aside from Parker within the next couple of years. We could use Davis for two more.
3) Jon Garland Trade – We want/need to trade him, but nobody seems to want him. He has value though, so this might change within the next two or three days.
4) Chris Snyder Trade – With no real viable backup options, I can see us choosing to wait until the summer to make a move. But his salary is going to necessitate a deal eventually.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 29, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions
well it strikes me that things may change right soon
With the Astros losing Oswalt for who knows how long and the Yankees losing Wang for the remainder of the season and the same being true for Slowey of the Twins, I think the market for Garland just got amped up. A dispassionate look at his numbers show that he’s a much better pitcher away from Chase field and his confidence may well soar once he’s not got a bunch of stumblebums behind him fielding. To be completely honest, even I would start to get weary of my teammates continually making gaffes behind me if I was in this strictly for the money, but considering the injuries factor and looking at who is starting games on the right side of the field I would suggest that there be a bit more lattitude on his part but methinks he’s only human. On the other hand, this is the big leagues and you expect big league performance and that hasn’t happened.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
The market just changed now, really
For a few D-Backs. Garland’s suddenly got a ton of interest, as Lee got dealt, Halladay appears to be staying, and Washburn is apparently going to be approached for an extension. He may be one of the best two or three starters available. And yes, the splits are hauntingly optimistic for an acquiring team. However, there are also rumors that the D-Backs might hang on to him, see how Webb fares, then possibly extend DD, pick up both Webb’s AND Garland’s options, then have a remarkably deep rotation next season with Haren/Webb/DD/Garland/Parker with Scherzer closing. That sounds delicious to me. Also, Chris Snyder’s trade market has kind of fallen apart because of the Cliff Lee trade. This means the Indians are full-on selling and giving up 2010, and Victor Martinez appears to now be far-and-away the best catcher on the market.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 29, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Garland's option
is a mutual one, though. He may choose the buyout instead.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
If he chooses not to, though,
The buyout is $1M instead of $2.5M. He’s not getting $8M on the FA market again, methinks. The switch to the NL hasn’t given him enough of a stats boost to keep his value steady. Although maybe he is sick enough of the D-Backs to do it. We’ll see.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Incidentally,
I just noticed that after his last outing, his ERA+ rose to over 100 for the first time in awhile.
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Really?
And there’s still very little market action for him. This is surprising. He’ll still get dealt somewhere, I think. I can’t see us having a reason to keep him (I don’t get these fantasies of 2010 with our pitching situation even with Garland), and I can’t see how he wouldn’t help someone.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions
He WOULD help SOMEONE.
He’s a solid, established major league starter with postseason experience up to and including the World Series, and he’d be much better in a non-hitter’s park. I’m not particularly surprised that the Yankees are/were looking at him, incidentally, even after getting Hirsh(who sucks).
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Except there's a slight problem.
Yankees Stadium has a fetish for homers. That confused me a little.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions
True.
I went from making a general comment to making a more specific comment.
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and the two
didn’t necessarily mesh.
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Understandable.
I don’t see why LAA isn’t trying to get him back.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
well considering his home/away
numbers, he would benefit from a change in scenery and who knows if there’s any love lost in the dugout. Besides, they signed him to be our number 4 or 5 guy (depending upon how you rate them) but when Webb went down, all that went out the window. I think he was looking forward to being a back of the rotation guy racking up some cheap victories after teams exhausted themselves on Haren and Webb and may have not been mentally prepared to step up… at least that’s the opinion (which could be completely invalid) I have of the guy based on what has been reported (which makes my take even more dubious).
For some other squad, he could be the guy who helps them over the hump by eating some quality innings and those guys, while available don’t often give you as much of a chance to win, Garland does have the benefit of being an established vet and that still means something.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
The home/away numbers
Are based on the fact that Chase Field is a hitter’s heaven for home runs. Problem for Garland is, so is the new Yankee Stadium. So yeah, there might be the benefit of leaving Chase, but if it’s to go to YS, it might not be huge.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Up and down with Davis and Garland
Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports report that interest in D’Backs starters Doug Davis and Jon Garland has grown “slightly.”
That’s really all there is to discuss right now.
Wear your own fur.
Jon Heyman
reports that the Yankees are interested in Jon Garland.
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 29, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's make
THAT trade, and re-sign Double D!
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by DbacksSkins on Jul 29, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Jesus Montero is a DH or 1B (or a really bad defensive C). We have Allen and are NL. We’d want one of their arms or more versatile defensive players.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 29, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing outside of Montero and Jackson
are really too spectacular in their system, but then again neither none of ours are either. I dunno, I just like guys I know will provide above average play in the MLB. Montero is that guy.
Go DBacks!
Of course
I mean, the Garland for Montero trade would be a dream, naturally. We’d make room for his bat. But if we actually are going to give value to get a prospect from the Yanks, I’d rather give the value necessary for Jackson than the value for Montero because of positional needs.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll give you that
I don’t think in my wildest dreams that Garland on his own could garner either of those two prospects though.
Go DBacks!
he won’t. but we can always dream.
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-- Bruce Catton
hey, the pirates somehow got alderson for sanchez.
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-- Bruce Catton
Agreed
This confused me. I know the Giants have an absolute ton of pitching, but that doesn’t mean you sell it cheap. It means you can be patient and sell it for value. Oh well. They paniced. I was just hoping that the team to panic would do it on a guy from us.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That's because
Brian Sabean is a ****ing idiot.
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so let’s trade with the Giants, then!
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-- Bruce Catton
I agree!
Their GM is retarded….
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What would everyone think of
Snyder and Garland to the Yankees for Montero and a live arm?
We’d get more depth at catcher, the Yankees would get an awesome platoon partner/replacement for Posada and the pitcher that they’re looking at anyway. Plus, they’re contenders (for now), and could use a backup if Posada goes down.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jul 29, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Zephon, I presume?
Depends on the live arm, but I like it on face. The Yankees get what they need to compete this year, and we build a little more for the future.
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Nope,
this one was actually me.
:-)
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jul 29, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be for it
“So, who’s our starting catcher today?”
“Montero.”
Just think of the comedic potential!
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
Hell,
Fox could make it into a sitcom. Jesus and Miguel—The Venezuelans with the Same Last Name.
Hilarity ensues.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jul 29, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I'm not a fan of getting Jesus Montero for the D-Backs.
He’s a mega-prospect in terms of his bat, but his D is so shaky he won’t stay behind the plate. He’d have to be a 1B or DH, and 1B is where we have to give Brandon Allen at least two or three years minimum, and we don’t have the DH option. I say go for all arms.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 29, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus
The Yankees will probably go for Victor Martinez now.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 29, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Cliff Lee off the boards!
That should get the ball rolling on some potential trades before the deadline.
Except Snyder
Because it means the Indians are selling on 2010, so they have no incentive to keep Victor Martinez. We no longer have the best catcher on the market. Downer.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 29, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That's only true,
IF the Indians decide to sell him, which would be a dumb move, IMO.
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They have a prospect (forget the name) in the wings ready to replace him.
And he’s paid a ton and they’re officially not winning in 2010, or probably 2011. 2012 is their target, and Victor’s going to have depreciated by then.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Carlos Santana has an awesome name
I hope he has santana as his batting songs.
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by C. Wesley Baier on Jul 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously.
Black Magic Woman would be appropriate.
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-Pygalgia
Thank you mucho.
That’s it.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well there's still
The Tigers and the Astros if someone wants to make a modest upgrade for a modest price. I think the thing is to determine how likely a prospect someone actually is, I don’t want to say that we’ll get someone on the 40 man roster, but expecting a modest prospect, say 8 thru 12 in their system or a couple of really young arms at the class A level isn’t out of the question. Seeing what the Pirates got for Sanchez, makes me think that we got taken in the Lopez trade, but I could be wrong when you figure in contract lengths, player control and the like
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
Sanchez had infinitely more value than Lopez
Defensive value & contract differences being the main reasons why. Although I LOVE what the Pirates got for Sanchez, Wilson, and a pitcher who wouldn’t accept a re-promotion to the big leagues (Snell… I’m not kidding… I just wish he was). Three A-level arms for depth, one stud AA-level arm for quality. Having been in school while Alderson was, I am very aware of how good the guy is. Destroyed us.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Alderson?
Care to elaborate?
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I don't have a scouting report on Tim Alderson, sadly...
But he pitched at Horizon HS in Phoenix, and they were our biggest competition in baseball. When he didn’t pitch, we won. When he pitched, we lost. He’s a top-tier prospect with a blazing fastball and a good return for a contact 2-hitter who’s seen his average dip over the last couple of years and has very limited power. It helps San Fran now, but Pittsburgh will win this trade long-term.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Horizon, eh?
I gotcha. That was really what I was asking.
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Yankees
acquired Jason Hirsh from the Rockies today, for….. someone.
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St. Louis
Is considering a trade for Qualls:
…the Cardinals are “definitely pushing” for a right-handed setup man. There’s “strong internal support” to obtain Chad Qualls, but the search is “apparently directed elsewhere.”
Courtesy Joe Strauss
Wear your own fur.
Chad Qualls and Chad Tracy
for Albert Pooholes
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I like.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions
LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
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They did already trade Brett Wallace...
But he’s bad defensively and that would force a Reynolds move back to second, which I would be iffy on. You think this infield is bad, just be happy you wouldn’t have to suffer through that. Their current best prospect? A catcher. Woo.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions
morning buzz
shows that the Rangers and the Yanks are both scouting Garland, Davis is also under consideration by the Rangers. Per Olney over at the 4 letter network says that the phones are ringing about the availability of Qualls as well.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
Rangers and Yankees?
Both very questionable ballpark matchups.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Davis
better than Garland, but not by much.
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Yep
The AL-switch for Davis scares me though. I don’t see why either of those teams would have gone for anybody but Washburn. TigerVictory, YankeeRangerFail.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
*Ahem*
Should be “TigersWIN”.
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Dodgers get George Sherill
Tigers sell a crappy outfielder to the Royals, who seem to think that buying is a smart decision when they’re one of the worst teams in baseball. Also, Brandon Webb supposedly suffered a set-back in his recovery and now might need surgery. If so, R.I.P. officially to his D-Backs career.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
ugh. that looks bad. poor webby. poor d-backs.
in terms of the dodgers, it looks pretty certain that they won’t be nabbing Halladay according to FoxSports. Sherill is a decent pick up for them, but i still think they still sit behind philly and StL in terms of talent for a playoff run.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
If you're Philly
Don’t you give up Happ, Drabek, Brown, and one more to get Halladay (because they fleeced Cleveland and didn’t have to give any of them up), then win the next five World Series after convincing Hallday and Lee to stay with ginormous contracts and a 5-game series of Halladay, Hamels, Lee, Halladay, Hamels w/Lee & Halladay closing? Why keep prospects when you can win World Series’ like games against the Nationals? Rollins/Victorino/Utley/Howard/Ibanez/Werth will make sure that their offense will be sufficient enough to outscore teams in the span of those pitchers’ careers. It just makes too much sense to me.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouldn’t do that. they’re set right now for now and the future. if you’ve got to mortgage it to get it done this year you should do it, but if you don’t, there is no reason to do so.
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-- Bruce Catton
Sounds awesome,
IF Halladay and Lee re-sign.
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Halladay would have been on-board for next year
And if you’re Lee, don’t you return to that team? And, subsequently, doesn’t Halladay sign an extension? Just saying. They’d have to realize the plan as well.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
As for the D-Backs
If Webb needs surgery, we’re not picking up the option, and if he’s not back and solid, we’re not going to compete is 2010. So, if this is all the case, Webb’s setback may have just triggered a complete firesale. I could see Davis, Qualls, Garland, and Tracy all gone in the next twenty hours. Then we struggle through 2010 and let the kids develop. Haren, Scherzer, and Parker in the rotation next season for sure, Valdez, Augenstein, Roemer, Petit, Torra, and Buckner fight for the final two spots.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 30, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Royals = idiots
By the way, I haven’t checked Purple Row yet, but I know they were hoping HARD for Sherill.
Today’s forecast: disappointment.
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A buddy of mine
Who jumped on the Brewers’ (and Bucks’) bandwagon since he now goes to Marquette just said that the D-Backs offered Dan Haren to the Crew in exchange for a package of prospects. Something tells me unless we get Escobar, Gamel, Salome, and about four other guys, this isn’t happening.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions
and I got land on the moon for sale too
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I also have no idea where he got this from. So it's nonsense.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions
When referring to a Dan Haren trade, I'd say so.
When referring to any of my other rants – perhaps not. ;-)
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
no
To say that you don’t know about something, therefore its nonsense is bold. I assume you just phrased it poorly.
Come on though, any bs rumor involving Haren
IS just that: BS nonsense.
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by unnamedDBacksfan on Aug 1, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well when you look at all of the credible sources you know
Trying to find it, and nothing shows up, and it’s about a trade involving an ace, then that’s pretty fricking definitive right? It wasn’t that I didn’t know about it, it’s that I didn’t know where he got it from, as I very clearly stated, and couldn’t find any word about it upon further inspection. Geez. I didn’t phrase it poorly, I phrased it perfectly. You misunderstood what I was saying.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 1, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Haren for
Manny Parra, Ryan Braun, Matt Gamel, Alcides Escobar and Yovani Gallardo.
You have yourself a deal.
Go DBacks!
Oh it's on!
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No deal
I think you should throw in at least one of the racing sausages, too.
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"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
BRATWURST!
GET BRATWURST!!!
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Just don't
get the Polish. My Polish friend went to a Brewers game and he said the Polish ate shit right before the finish line, causing multiple people to make Polak jokes.
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+1
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well....
we need to get more value than we gave up, and we gave up like 10 million prospects, so… (And by that, I mean 6 prospects)
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Washburn traded
The Yankees still need an arm and we’re one of the few with guys left on the market.
Go DBacks!
Of course as soon as I say that Ken Rosenthal tells us
Our arms are more likely to slip through waivers this August and be more apt to be dealt then.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9875596
Go DBacks!
i don’t see davis being picked up off waivers. he’s just too good a value and i really think we’re going to (should?) re-sign him.
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I HOPE this!
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There's arguments to be made both ways.
We have very high-probability 4/5 guys in the system. Wade Miley comes to mind. As long as it’s short, and there’s no chance of getting a decent return, I’d support this.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but
Ken Rosenthal thought that we beat the Phillies in the 2007 postseason, so….
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It would seem that the fly-ball, AL parks of NY and TEX
Would be horrible matches for both Garland and Davis.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Again,
moreso Garland than Davis, but…. yeah.
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Garland sketchy for the fly balls
Davis sketchy for the AL… His stuff isn’t going to get the K’s against AL lineups that it does against NL lineups – which he needs to be effective.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like the Brewers are trying to get by with Claudio Vargas
a failed experiment of theirs when we sent him there for Dougie. They traded a system catcher to the Dodgers for a former ‘Backs prospect. That’s probably what they’ll try and get by on, not DD.
Go DBacks!
Total FAIL.
I’m upset about this, because the Dodgers obviously made out waaaay better. :-(
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When the Dodgers need a fifth starter
But yet are willing to trade one of their three fringy candidates, that tells you a lot.
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by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 1, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah.
We would just trade him for somebody awesome.
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I was a big fan of that off season
Trade Chris Carter to the BOS
Trade Carlos Quentin to CWS for Chris Carter
Trade Chris Carter to OAK for Dan Haren
Ask the guy next to us what just happened?
Go DBacks!
No trades?
I would be rather surprised if the DBacks didn’t trade some of their players who will be a free agent next year like Davis, Tracy or Garland-unless nobody is offering anything for them.
by Chicks Dig TheLong Ball on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
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You’re not Mark Reynolds, are you?
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
Looks like a big fat zero
Trade deadline passed, nothing announced…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
looks that way… although sometimes these things trickle in an hour or two late.
"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton
Yeah
As I recall, the Manny trade wasn’t announced until three or four hours after the trade deadline last year. But we’ll see.
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
Peavy's going to the White Sox
According to Rosenthal. So long, Jake. Can’t say I’ll miss you much.
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
Hey Devin?
I FanShot(FanShotted?) it already.
(Sorry, I just wanna get credit.)
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
I don't know, Phil
Time stamps lead me to believe that I posted the comment first.
"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"
Since when
has that ever stopped me?
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
So glad I spent 8-10 hours of my life
That I’ll never get back writing those deadline pieces. Woo. At least Tracy will be gone soon – waiver trade. Possibly Garland too.
Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.
by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
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