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The Brandon Allen Watch

Two more home-runs and four RBIs for Brandon Allen in tonight's 7-5 victory for the Reno Aces. That gives him a line in his eleven games there of .378/.489/1.000. That is not a misprint: he is slugging one thousand, and owns an OPS of 1.489, having gone 14-for-37, with half of his hits leaving the yard. Meanwhile, on the south side of  Chicago, Tony Peña has allowed six earned runs in his first four innings of work, for an early ERA of 13.50.

Of course, there's no way Allen can keep that level of production up, and nor is Peña that bad, but seven homers in 37 at-bats does tend to suggest we might just have got the better of this trade. It's certainly nice to see us make a deal which does not immediately turn round and bite us in the ass. I'll keep monitoring his performance as we go forward, see how our potential 2010 first-baseman is doing.

[Update] Here's an interview with Allen from Gambo and Ash on KTAR earlier in the week. Unfortunately, the audio player doesn't seem to like Fanposts, so it's direct link to the MP3 file. Sorry. :-)

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.378/.489/1.000

wow.

I know it’s AAA and it may be a streak, but still, wow.

"Twin-headed infinite swirling vortex of grotesque suckitude known as Tony Clark and Eric Byrnes"

by sergey606 on Jul 23, 2009 2:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Welcome to the PCL, eh?

But at this rate, it’s getting easier to consider removing that “potential” on “potential 2010 first-baseman.” Also check the 2 SB’s to 0 CS’s. Leadfoot? Nope.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 23, 2009 3:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Just remember....

the PCL isn’t a hitter’s league at all. Nope, not at all. It’s not as if they have parks in Colorado Springs, Albuquerque, Reno and other high-desert plains. (Formerly Tucson)

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

That was supposed to be the intention of my super-witty title. Guess that didn’t work too well.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

I was going along with your comment.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sure look intelligent now. :-P

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

And for another watch:

Dan Haren vs. Tim Lincecum CONTINUED!!!!! (dun dun dunnn)

Starts after the All-Star Break:
Dan Haren: 8 IP, 1 ER / game tomorrow.
Tim Lincecum: 7 IP, 1 ER / 5 IP, 4 ER.

Something tells me that Haren’s got something better than 4 IP, 4 ER in for us tomorrow (maybe just intuition), so I have a feeling the ERA post-ASB will be in his favor tomorrow.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 23, 2009 3:22 AM EDT reply actions  

PredictionFAIL.

Waaaay to jinx his ass.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A real first baseman!! Ahhh they do exist!

by PhoenixFly on Jul 23, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i still don't understand that trade

I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL, I LOVE IT! FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU WANT. ALL MEN SHOULD DO WHAT WOMEN SAY AND SHUT UP!

by pierzynskirules on Jul 23, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

That is quite the quote you have there. Very…emphatic.

by bcloirao on Jul 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah it is

exactly how I feel

I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL, I LOVE IT! FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU WANT. ALL MEN SHOULD DO WHAT WOMEN SAY AND SHUT UP!

by pierzynskirules on Jul 23, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

How’s dating working out for ya? Sorry, that was low, but given the comments, I felt necessary to stand up for the fellas a bit. Plus, for as much of a punk as Pierzynski pretty much is, he obviously called a helluva game with Buehrle today. And from what side do you not understand it? Because both sides’ perspectives are fairly clear.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 23, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Er..

Pierzynski wasn’t in the lineup today

by Clefo on Jul 23, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Owww

Schwoops. I remember, it was Castro, right? Hahaha well nevermind then, he’s just a punk. ;)

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 23, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't be talking about my menace like that

I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL, I LOVE IT! FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU WANT. ALL MEN SHOULD DO WHAT WOMEN SAY AND SHUT UP!

by pierzynskirules on Jul 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooooooooooo

I’m frightened!!! That’s the reaction you wanted, right?

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 23, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

no it wasn't

but thanks

I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL, I LOVE IT! FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU WANT. ALL MEN SHOULD DO WHAT WOMEN SAY AND SHUT UP!

by pierzynskirules on Jul 23, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smile.

It makes you happy.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 24, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL, I LOVE IT! FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU WANT. ALL MEN SHOULD DO WHAT WOMEN SAY AND SHUT UP!

by pierzynskirules on Jul 24, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny

dating is fine, pena hasn’t done anything for us yet. that’s why i don’t understand it.

I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL, I LOVE IT! FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU WANT. ALL MEN SHOULD DO WHAT WOMEN SAY AND SHUT UP!

by pierzynskirules on Jul 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a high-upside, 27-year-old power bullpen arm

With multiple years of control left. Bullpen help is always needed.

And I thought it was funny. :)

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd bet you thought it was

I LOVE A.J PIERZYNSKI. WHITE SOX BASEBALL, I LOVE IT! FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING YOU WANT. ALL MEN SHOULD DO WHAT WOMEN SAY AND SHUT UP!

by pierzynskirules on Jul 23, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

High-upside? Really?

I thought Tony P used up all his upside in the 2007 season?

Also, don’t mess with pierzynskirules. She WILL end you.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

These days

If you throw 98, you are high-upside into your 30’s. Just ask Juan Cruz.

No kidding… It’s haunting.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't Tony P

max out at 95?

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

These days, mostly

I could’ve sworn in his prime (sad that we’re calling three years ago his prime, but it’s the truth), he’d hit 98 a lot. Frightening that he’s still always been a contact pitcher. Not a lot of movement on that heat…

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's

hard not to get excited about this kid. i liked c-pain but if the first couple weeks are any indication, allen could be a cornerstone for years. thanks, kw!

like a tornado hitting a jelly bean factory on Halloween.

by leemellon on Jul 23, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

He

still owes us from the Quentin trade, and even the CY trade doesn’t look nearly as good as it did a year or two ago.

I think KW and JB have an ongoing bet as to who can better stiff the other, so they have to keep trading every year in an effort to one-up each other.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we can deal Upton!

Right? How many 50 homer guys do you need on a team? Dang, lets bring him up now! Maybe he can play short as well and we can deal Drew! I also heard he’s swiped 80 bags in his first 20 games, and that he is a “players manager”! There goes Hinch!

Haha, I kid. But, 11 games? Lets not go so overboard that everyone wants to trade him when he drops down to earth and only has a OPS of .999, eh?

by Counsellmember on Jul 23, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

remember how i said

 not to put too much stock in his AAA stats with charlotte? Allen has been smoking the ball since the trade, and he’s drawing walks too. This trade could turn out to be a real steal

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jul 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

You didn't say that Emily.

I said that!

"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair

by C. Wesley Baier on Jul 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or did you?

The world may never know.

"Wait, am I keeping it real or kicking it old school? I can never remember which one is cool now."

by kishi on Jul 23, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask Mr. Owl

"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair

by C. Wesley Baier on Jul 23, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

One, twohoohoo, three.... ::crunch::

Three.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so THAT is how it works

WE can’t mention the confusion, but YOU can… :-)

"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil

by Jim McLennan on Jul 23, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so noted

your disclaimer is noted. I think everyone, in fact, attached one to their comment. :)

But, it did make me chuckle to see that Allen is now a cornerstone of our organization. I welcome it wholeheardly!

by Counsellmember on Jul 23, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No home run for Allen tonight

2 for 3 with two walks and a stolen base though. Still an inning or two left in reno’s game

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jul 24, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Geez

It doesn’t end.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 24, 2009 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight's game not great

1-5 with two strikeouts, but the one hit is a double, and he does end up scoring after.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 25, 2009 4:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Blech... 1-5 with 2 Ks??

DFA the guy.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh.

Skins got possessed. Bombers is infiltrating the higher-ups!

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

DFA is my standard response when somebody awesome has a slightly below-par outing.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 26, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like that Haren loser

Did you see his last start? Ugh.

"Wait, am I keeping it real or kicking it old school? I can never remember which one is cool now."

by kishi on Jul 27, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Is that guy still with the team?? I hope we’ve relegated him to a mopup bullpen role.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 27, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight:

1-5 with a single and a K. Meh.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 4:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Also: An update on the farm from tonight (I've run out of things to write on, let me ramble please...)

AAA – Tom Gordon gave up 3 ER in a third of an inning, ruining any chance of Billy Buckner getting a ND for his 7 innings of 3-run work. 3 hits and 2 walks, 1 out. Yuck. If he pitches in the majors again this season, I’ll be shocked, and very disappointed. Gillespie hitless in 2 ABs, with one walk. Oeltjen 2-5 with a double. Ryal 2-4 with two doubles and a walk.

AA – Day off.

Hi-A – Victims of a complete-game, 3-hit shutout by San Francisco Giants prospect Orlando Yntema, now 4-0 with a 2.80 ERA in Hi-A at age 23. I see AA in his near future.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Gordon in Majors = Better draft pick :)

by Counsellmember on Jul 30, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

but (as was pointed out by Jim today), Gordon in Majors also = more $$$.

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Jul 30, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody else will sign Gordon.

He’ll retire after this failure of a season. No compensation.

By the by, Gillespie now has an OPS above .800, despite a BA around .210. Huge walk rate & has had a power surge recently.

Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like

a Josh Byrnes kinda guy. I like it.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 31, 2009 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not from arbitration

God knows Gordon is not a type A or B player. I only meant that if Gordon is with the parent club, it will equate to the Dbacks finishing with a worse record (if possible) which in turn equates to a higher draft pick.

by Counsellmember on Aug 1, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

NOW we're going to Tankapalooza '09?

Geez. Boo. Where were you to support me two months ago?

Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 1, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Allen next season...

This deal looks awesome thus far… if we were to give him a shot next season, what kind of numbers do you guys think he’ll put up, and what does it hold for Tracy and Whitesell?

by CaptainCanuck on Jul 27, 2009 4:14 AM EDT reply actions  

He'll take his lumps

Just like Reynolds, Upton, Drew, CY, and pretty much everybody has/did. Tracy’s gone in free agency. Whitesell’s going to be 29 and will either be a backup here or somewhere else. He’s good enough to be in the bigs, but not to start everyday. I could see him platooning as a lefty though.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a problem with 30 year old prospects

but the Cardinals seem to make it work, so I wouldn’t write off Whitesell just yet.

Allen is going to be another Mark Reynolds type in 2-3 years. I’m excited.

Go DBacks!

by JustAJ on Jul 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with all of the above

Except that Whitesell will never be a everyday guy, strictly out of the fact that he will only be in the league for four years, tops, due to age and lack of track record.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 27, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well....

I dunno that I would make those kinds of blanket proclamations, but he certainly doesn’t have history on his side.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 27, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But his batting average, while not always a great indicator of production, will scare the GMs that pay attention to things like that away, since it is a production-heavy position.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tracy

Do you think we’ll be able to trade him and get some value before he reaches FA?

by CaptainCanuck on Jul 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Someone pay Eric Byrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reno smacking about Tacoma tonight

11-3 after six. Allen is 1-for-4 – it’s Hester who is the offensive force for the Aces tonight, going 4-for-4 with a HR and three RBI

[Note, this is an active thread, so please keep the irrelevant smack-talk elsewhere]

"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil

by Jim McLennan on Jul 30, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

1-4 with another homer, thank you very much

"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair

by C. Wesley Baier on Jul 30, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So?

That’s only a slugging percentage of 1.000 on the day. That’s all?

"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"

by kishi on Jul 30, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

he better have cried himself to sleep.

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Jul 30, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He better have!

An OPS of 1.250 for a day’s work? Unacceptable!

"The conflict is representative of the Darwinian struggle between avians and mammals for dominance."
"Based on Bugs giving Daffy Duck a cigar made out of dynamite?"

by kishi on Jul 30, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously??

DFA the bastard.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Jul 31, 2009 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Double and Reno's only RBI - scoring Ryal, of course.

Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Jul 31, 2009 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

2-5, double, run scored.

Ho hum.

Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 1, 2009 2:35 AM EDT reply actions  

DFA!

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 1, 2009 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I look forward to another three months of these jokes.

Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 1, 2009 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey.

If soco and/or myself haven’t run a joke into the ground, then it wasn’t that funny to begin with.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 1, 2009 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

First couple of days of August

August 1: 0-for-3 with a walk and a run scored.
August 2: 2-for-5 with a home-run and a double.
Allen’s line is 367/.451/.785 for a 1.235 OPS, and nine home-runs in 79 at-bats

Incidentally, John Hester went 4-for-9 over the same two games, and his season line is now .333/.375/.545, a .919 OPS.

"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil

by Jim McLennan on Aug 3, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

....meanwhile,

Tony P has a 5.40 ERA in 10.0 IP for the ChiSox.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 3, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Josh Byrnes

Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 4, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's wait on it.

Two years ago, we thought we fleeced Kenny Williams in the CY trade. We’re fairly certain that Kenny fleeced J.Byrnes last year in the Quentin trade. Let’s give ’em some more time.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 4, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

true enough. although even with cy’s performance as it stands we still fleeced kw in that trade.

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Aug 4, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think so?

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s a tough trade to evaluate.
factor 1: CY’s performance
2006: 73 OPS+ (70 ABs)
2007: 89 OPS+
2008: 91 OPS+

factor 2: Vazquez’s performance
2006 98 ERA+
2007 127 ERA+
2008 98 ERA+

factor 3: salary
Vazquez 2006-2008 ($36M)
CY 2006-2008 (>$1M)

factor 4: CWS CF performance
no real way to calibrate this as they’ve had Brian Anderson, DeWayne Wise, Jerry Owens, and Luis Terrero all man CF for them. I guess the best way is to list the numbers of the guy that they wouldn’t trade to us instead of CY — Brian Anderson, the heir apparent CF for the CWS at the time. His OPS+ in 2006-2008? 65, 2 (not a typo), 81 in a collective ABs fewer than 600.

So… perhaps saying we ‘fleeced’ the CWS in the trade is an overstatement, but I think given the finances, it’s not much of one.

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Aug 4, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Dodged a BIG bullet there, seeing as how Brian Anderson was the guy the Dbacks asked for.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 4, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

no joke, huh?

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Aug 4, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we think CY’s a disappointment, talk to CWS fans!

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Aug 4, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don't get fleeced,

we take unwanted players off teams and turn them into someone with confidence to play well

WHAT I WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDERSTANDING OR SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PLACE.

by pierzynskirules on Aug 5, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i’m saying that’s not the case with Vazquez. your actually rebuttal to this arguement is???

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Aug 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i nothing really

how did you read it

WHAT I WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDERSTANDING OR SHUT UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PLACE.

by pierzynskirules on Aug 5, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was assuming the “we” you were referring to were the white sox.

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Aug 5, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at the results of the Quentin trade

it like the CY trade isn’t nearly as 1 sided as it originally seemed. Chris Carter is raking in the minors he was just a 3 years away from the majors, Q was major league ready. Carter is a futures game alum with a .325/.422/.553 line this year. Quentin had a great first year and has struggled with injuries since.

Go DBacks!

by JustAJ on Aug 4, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh.

So your opinion is that we got fleeced by Billy Beane instead?

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 4, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

well if having Dan Haren

is what you considered fleeced, the yes. I guess we did give them Brett Wallace, Brett Anderson and Chris Carter for him. Hmmm…. interesting thought.

Go DBacks!

by JustAJ on Aug 4, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey.

I was just asking what you thought, since you seem to think Chris Carter is gonna be amazing.

"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia

by DbacksSkins on Aug 4, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no, no

I wasn’t criticizing. I just took what you said and thought about it out loud. I’m not saying anything special just trying to stoke the discussion fire.

Go DBacks!

by JustAJ on Aug 4, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way. haren’s value has been huge. even if several of those other playeres pan out, at worst the trade was a wash.

"Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America."
-- Bruce Catton

by njjohn on Aug 4, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats my personal feelings

Brett Wallace is overrated. Brett Anderson will be a stud. Chris Carter will be Mark Reynolds 2.0.

Go DBacks!

by JustAJ on Aug 4, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Wallace will be good

But will be a 1B, so I agree, not great.

Someone pay Beric Yrnes $500,000 to be extreme and base jump into the Grand Canyon. Then screw with his equipment. Please.

by Dan Strittmatter on Aug 4, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

August 3rd – 1-for-4 [3 K’s]
August 4th – 1-for-5 with an RBI and a walk
August 5th – 1-for-4 with an RBI

"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil

by Jim McLennan on Aug 6, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

It looks like the league has finally adjusted to Allen

Now lets see how he responds.

"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair

by C. Wesley Baier on Aug 9, 2009 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Allen is back..not sure if he left

aug 3 and 4th was against Colorado Springs who seem to have the Aces number this year and the 5th was the first meeting with the I-Cubs this season on the road.
Since the 6th of Aug til yesterday Aug 16 Brandon Allen has:
10 games going 14 for 40 .350 BA
4 BB, 2 SB, 2- Doubles, his first triple yesterday, 3 HR with 13 runs scored and 10 RBI

by 777ace on Aug 17, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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