A philosophy of fandom
What's scary is the nature of our young fan base. We need to educate them. We need them to be loyal to the organization and not waver because of a tough season, a season where it really seems like we've been snake-bitten.
-- Derrick Hall, June 27, 2009
Important Disclaimer. All of what follows is personal opinion, discussing my opinion of what fandom means to me. Fandom is like religion in some ways, in that everyone has their own - while there may be broad areas of agreement, it is a potential minefield for discussion. Nothing here is meant to denigrate "your" approach to fandom, which is every bit as valid as anyone else's. Ok? Right, after the jump, let's get on. It's semi-rambling and leaps about a bit, but hopefully you'll find it interesting.
Fandom in team sports doesn't make a great deal of sense: you are rooting for a nebulous entity, called 'The Arizona Diamondbacks.' Few of the players on the team now were here three years ago - and with the departure of Randy Johnson, the last tie to the 2001 World Series, which cemented so many of us as die-hards, is gone. Yet both the breadth and depth of sports fandom is unsurpassed in America: I'm pretty sure a higher percentage of people would identify themselves as fans of a team, than fans of a TV series or band. The former is seen as 'geeky', the latter generally the provenance of the young. But the majority of people have a team they support, in one or more sports.
What it provides is a element of drama that, let's be honest, is largely missing from most people's lives - and this is largely a good thing. Just as horror films provide a safe, controlled outlet in which death and violence can be encountered, so supporting a team provide an adrenaline thrill and the chance to experience uncertainty and tension, not found in most 'normal' jobs, outside of the armed forces. For three hours a night, we live or die with the team: but at the end of the day, we turn off the TV and go to bed, because it doesn't matter.
It's also based on a cycle of expectation, usually followed by disappointment. Obviously, there can be only one World Series winner, but three-quarters of the teams in the National League won't see playoff baseball this year. At the time of writing (thanks to interleague play), only six of the sixteen even have winning records. No team wins every year. Heck, it's not that long ago even the MFY went an entire decade without getting into the post-season [1982-1993, including back-to-back seasons with more than ninety losses], though it's certainly true that their resources now help them to stay competitive. But last season, their $209m payroll - $65m+ more than any other team in the history of the game had ever spent - still didn't buy them a playoff spot. Great, wasn't it? :-)
Logically, failure is more likely than success, yet as we've seen lately in Arizona, the absence of success can triigger a major crisis - a team's failure is our failure, while if our team does well, it boosts self-esteem. A study at Indiana University showed fans a game, then asked how they thought they'd do at various tasks. Consistently, there was a sharp rise in confidence in abilities after a win, and a corresponding drop after a loss. Fans were even far more likely to say they could get a person of the opposite sex to go on a date. Yet failure can be as binding a force as success: look at Cubs fans, or Red Sox ones prior to 2004. There was something semi-masochistic and admirable about being a Boston fan in those days; now, they're the Yankees Lite. One wonders what would happen to Cubs fandom if they ever did win the World Series. It might just spontaneously combust.
This is perhaps what Hall meant about a "young fan-base"; the one in Arizona has not been through the cycles of failure and success, and know that neither should be expected to last forever. To quote Rudyard Kipling, "If you can meet with triumph and disaster / And treat those two impostors just the same..." Personally, I don't think my interest in or passion for the Diamondbacks is significantly connected to their won-lost record. Sure, it certainly makes for a more enjoyable experience when they win 90 games a season, rather than lose them, but I can't say, for example, that I have watched any fewer games this year than in 2007.
That's what I think differentiates die-hard fans from the more casual ones - I certainly fall into the latter category with regard to the Arizona Cardinals. I was cheering as hard as anyone for them in the SuperBowl, but the instant it was over, I went right back to ignoring them. Bandwagon jumper? Fair-weather fan? Guilty as charged, absolutely. It may be that four division titles and a World Series in the first decade may have 'spoiled' Arizona fans. It just isn't a normal pattern for any team, let alone an expansion franchise - only one of the nine other teams founded since 1969 won even a single crown in their first decade [the Royals]. Is it realistic to expect this to continue?
Face it. We Arizona fans have had it incredibly easy during the lifespan of the franchise. Just compare our expansion siblings in Tampa, who took eleven attempts to avoid losing ninety games. Dammit: those fans really earned that 2008 trip to the World Series. Or the Marlins and Rockies: 32 seasons combined, and not a division between them. The Rangers: this is their 49th year, including the time in Washington, and they have one playoff game win. I could go on. This is why, as an Diamondbacks fan, when I read some of the posts on azcentral com bemoaning the current state of the team, I feel I'm reading texts from whiny teenage girls to their friends, upset because their rich daddy won't buy them a new Corvette and a nose-job.
Not that there isn't ground for legitimate criticism - though it can get drowned out in the noise, and I'm deliberately steering clear of specifics for now, as it'd basically be piling on after the weekend. But I think management has been guilty, wittingly or not, of promoting unrealistic expectations This team was touted as one which would, at the very least, be competitive - that clearly isn't the case, and may be a major cause of the subsequent backlash, While there's no comparison between this roster and 2004, a big difference is, I don't think anyone expected much from Jerry's Kids: in 2003, we finished 16.5 games back, which didn't exactly trigger great hope for the following year. In contrast, last season, we led from the end of the first week until the start of September and finished just two back. What we have in 2009 is not just failure, it's unexpected failure.
That is particularly frustrating due to the weird relationship between teams and fans. It's symbiotic, in that neither could exists without the other, yet the power is almost all on the team's side. Again, this is where it becomes almost closer to a religion, because we have to take it almost entirely on faith that those who are running things have 'our' best interests at heart. As fans, there is almost nothing we can do to influence the decisions made on our behalf. We go to the game, or not. We cheer or boo [though the latter has come in for strong criticism from some quarters]. Nowadays, we post angst-ridden rants on sites like this. Really, that's about it. And when things do not turn out as we've been told they would, a sense of disappointment verging on betrayal is very understandable.
My relationship with the team is, from this end, like the one I had with the Snakepitette during her teenage years. It was frequently infuriating, because anything I said pretty much had no effect, yet I still cared deeply, even if I could do little more than hope that things worked out okay in the end [and, I'm pleased to report, they have done, more or less]. Just as that's a bond that can't be broken, as part of the hardcore fanbase, there is nothing the team could do which would drive me away. I just cannot imagine cheering for another baseball team, and the odds of me shifting allegiance to the Suns or Cardinals are even slimmer.
Your 2009 Arizona Diamondbacks. Can't live with 'em - can't tie them up in a burlap bag and toss 'em in the Salt River...
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Thanks Jim
This is food for thought, especially in a season like this one.
I’ve already admitted that I’m one of those fickle fans who follows the home team wherever he lives. My credentials are somewhat tarnished, but I am a fan of baseball no matter who’s on the radio. And, I hate to admit it, the Diamondbacks have grown on me. I’ve lived near Phoenix for a dozen years and it’s getting difficult to imagine cheering for another team.
This has been a tough season to follow the D-Backs. They’re an odd mix of talent and terrible play. It’s easy to see why fans are disappointed and I can’t fault people who’ve lost their interest. Personally, I’ve gone from a fan who attends half a dozen games every year and avidly follows the rest on radio and TV to one who doesn’t attend games at all and puts the game on in the background while I work at something else. I’m still rooting for the team, and I still check the game every couple minutes (especially when Dan Haren is pitching or Justin Upton’s up to bat). I’m not sure if that makes me a fair-weather fan or one with a working defense mechanism against lousy baseball. I’m voting for the latter.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
I don't
think there’s anything wrong with following whichever team is in your area. I personally think it’s better that you support the home town team instead of only showing up when [insert team] plays, and if I should move away from Phoenix (to hopefully a major league city) then I’ll follow the home town team as well.
Funny, Brown doesn't offer a degree in slut!
I agree
You get such a rich experience when you root for the local team: nearly every game is on TV or on the radio. The local news outlets give you updates every day. Friends, neighbors, coworkers and strangers in the grocery store enjoy talking about the same team as you do. I don’t think I could give all that up. But I’ve also never followed any team for as long as I’ve followed the D-Backs. I can see how people form a life-long (or even generations-long) attachment to a single team.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Mixed Thoughts
I agree with rooting for the most local team, but like many Zoni’s, I’m a transplant. In my heart, I’m a Giants fan (grew up in S.F. Mays, McCovey, and Marichal), but there’s another part.
I am a BASEBALL FAN.
And that’s where the current D’Backs lose me.
I can accept losing. Between injuries and circumstance, losing can be forgiven. Hit shappens.
But I know this game, and there is a right way to play it. You can lose but still retain honor and respect. Shake the other guys hand and say “nice game” and mean it.
The D’Backs are my local team, and I really want to root for them. If only they’d start playing good BASEBALL. This is my complaint: at least look like you’re trying.
"I know a place where life is a game, and Baseball's really real"
I'll admit it
I boo’d lustily when they allowed a steal home yesterday. It was bad play piled on bad play piled on bad play. If it makes me a bad fan, then so what.
I love sports, but sometimes the interactions with other fans is the worst part of it all. I can deal with the losing (though the terrible play frustrates me more and more), I can deal with not being in contention for stretches of time because I can logically accept that. I just like the game.
Um, I lost my train of thought.
Funny, Brown doesn't offer a degree in slut!
AZ Fandom
I have to say being among the fans at Dbacks games can be rather odd. In that I’d say only about 1/3 of those in attendance are diehards, or at least loud, while the rest consists of either fans of the opposing team or just very casual fans their with family. It’s the kind of environment where your cheers seem almost alone. BOB is indeed a far cry from the frenzied atmosphere of Wrigley Field or Fenway Park where fandom is at its most impassioned.
I guess that’s just what I’d like to see more of at Dbacks games or in any sporting venue in Phoenix. I remember going to Game 5 of the Spurs v Suns series in 2007, I remember the unbridled hate every person in that building had toward the Spurs. There was a bomb squad and extra cops patrolling the stands for a reason. Every time a Spur touched the ball the whole of America West Arena would erupt in boos and every time a Sun scored the very ground would shake from the cheers. And when we finally lost it was as if the world died and you could hear a pin drop among those tens of thousands.
It was much the same I’m sure in the 2001 World Series. The whole city came out to support our team and showed up in large numbers. Yet when the way of success subsides so do much of the fans here.
Of course I’d be foolish to ever think that kind of passion could ever be maintained in any sporting event for a long period of time, but we can get better.
With that in mind I really cant put a finger on why the fan base here seems to come and go with the fortunes of the team. You cant just say the people of Phoenix are “bad fans” that would ignore the why. I’ve come to believe that the reason lies with most of our population originating from elsewhere. In that because their ties to Phoenix arent strong they may follow a team here and wish them well, but wont invest in them and actively gun for them until they actually do well. So maybe that general feeling holds down many others who want to be fans but feel intimidated when they dont see the support. In the end who knows for sure.
I know I’ve rambled on far too long, but I just wanted to put in my two cents.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Jim's managed
to denigrate my approach to fandom, so to hell with all this ;-)
I’m primarily a geographic fan. I root for teams where I live, but it’s not an instantaneous or conscious decision. It naturally evolves, as I learn more about, and identify with, local teams and their players. I dont immediately assign or seek out any artificial allegiance to particular ownership groups or “organizations”. I root for the team (ie ballplayers) representing my current city in the vast world out there, as a point of pride. I guess I feel like they represent me in some indirect way, and that’s where my loyalty typically lies.
this is where it [fandom] becomes almost closer to a religion, because we have to take it almost entirely on faith that those who are running things have ‘our’ best interests at heart.
This is where we part ways, I think. One need not pledge fealty to some owner’s vision or five year plan in order to be a fan of the team representing one’s city. I grew up a MFY fan in the early seventies, when Steinbrenner took over, and before he turned things around. He was in trouble with the law and moved the venerable Yanks to Shea for goodness sake. He was neither well liked nor respected – but we were Yankee fans because we lived in (or near) New York and that’s what you did. I just never saw a contradiction between rooting for your home team while reserving the right to critcize – even loathe – “those who are running things”.
That seems perfectly natural to me, like supporting my country while being a discerning critic of its leaders.
One more thing: Boooooooooooooooooooo!
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
I agree
Good analogy as well with the whole country-supporting deal.I really have never been through a time where I’ve questioned the Diamondbacks, truly. Unlike (probably) anyone else here, I’ve grown up as a kid with the Diamondbacks. I was only four when they played their inaugural game. After 2001, before even knowing anything about baseball, I picked the Diamondbacks as my team and followed them. They got me into baseball as a diehard fan and eventually into football and basketball. Being a fan after 2001 (took me awhile to realize they had won the WS!), I’ve never been able to experience a championship team. However, I’ve been able to see them as consistent division threats, something that (as Jim said) not many people get to experience. They’ve had two losing seasons in my watching time. Ever. I live in Vegas, so there’s no real city-based attachment to them, either.
I really consider myself a diehard fan, though. I’ll admit, I know nothing when it comes to who has a good OPS, what trades make sense, team payrolls, or any Sabermetrics. However, I’ve never given up on Arizona and don’t plan on it for the rest of my life… I go to a series against my dad’s Cubbies every year at Chase, and we’ve been going for six or seven years now. I own jerseys and buy everything I can with an MLB license and a Dbacks logo on it.
So, I guess I’ve joined the rambling crew. Oh well. Great post, Jim.
Woah.
Someone on this site younger than me? Holy crap.
by emilylovesthedbacks on Jul 1, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I’m with ‘hacks on this one. Fandom is not religion, devotion, or blind allegiance. It can be those things to those that choose, but it doesn’t have to be. It’s a business. We are consumers of a product. The owners and players can’t guarantee success, but they have a responsibility to produce the best product they can. If a product or a service is bad, it’s the obligation of the consumer (the “fans” in this case) to respond. I can handle losing, but I can’t support blatant disinterest in performing.
Lastly, the people running things never have ‘our’ best interests at heart. They just like to make you think they do so that you’ll pay to watch 81 games in their ballpark.
Josh Byrnes Sucks
"It’s a business. We are consumers of a product."
I disagree. Sports and supporting a team seems to fulfill a completely different need for me than, say, a tin of beans. We choose our loyalty based on radically different criteria than when we buy a product – the heart rules the head, otherwise we’d all be fans of the Yankees, as the ‘best’ team out there.
I also think there is a commonality in cause between most owners and fans – owners generally want the team to win as much as fans. Not just for self-esteem reasons, though those are important, but it generally gives them a better return on their investment.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure this is true
but [winning] generally gives them a better return on their investment.
Under the current profit-sharing arrangement, I think there’s a perverse incentive for the worst small-market teams to continue performing badly. I remember it being a contributing factor in the Kansas City Royals’ long run of sub-mediocrity.
Here’s a Forbes article about it. The tone is awfully slanted, but to my non finance-oriented mind, the premise is sound.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
lmao, a tin of beans ? who says that ?
If I see one more Eric Byrnes 'flip throw' I will shoot myself a whole bunch of times.
A Brit
Next! :-)
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Jun 30, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
chip chip pop pop
If I see one more Eric Byrnes 'flip throw' I will shoot myself a whole bunch of times.
my two cents
Im homegrown phoenix boy since 1980, my parents have been here since the mid ’70s and Ive experienced the fair-weather nature of our fans for years – and i have to say my father was the one who got me into every sport in the Valley, but while he never rooted for another team he was sure quick to disregard them or after a loss not care.
Colangelo and Co have run phx area sports almost exclusively for better or worse since the expansion Suns in the 60s until just recently. I have many personal problems with business dealings and shady taxpayer approval measures to fund our diamondback ballpark; however, he was a master marketer and a he new how to field a team that would endear fans and have a chance to win. If a Colangelo team didnt win, the fans knew it was bc of injury/bad luck/etc, no one ever thought it was because of incompetent management.
the cardinals have been the thorn in the city for years, a poster child for how to badly run a franchise and how to piss every fan off over a 15 year period. The contrast between how the colangelo’s ran a franchise and how the bidwell’s ran a franchise was night and day – one was perceived to be building a team in the interest of fans while the other was perceived to be building a team in the interest of his bottom line. I knew many family/friends who would fly to phx to see cardinal games – because its was one of the few stadiums in the country that wasnt sold out every week. i know we hear about green bays 30 year wait on season tickets, but in fact more than half the league has a year or two waiting list to get good tickets (this may have changed since the economy).
that being said, to me no matter how bad our teams play or look i will support them if the perception to me is that the franchise is trying!!!! This is what cost the cardinals so many of the football fans in the valley and why they hold there allegiance to other cities and other franchises. for years, they made bonehead moves over and over again and the only analysis league wide is that they are being cheap, and dont care.
my comp to the cardinals is because being a diehard fan can only work if the team is perceived to be trying to get better every year. the red sox and cubs fans who have languished for years in mediocrity, can also take note that during those stretches they’ve had MVPs and CY Youngs won on there respective teams and they did make the playoffs many times – on top of that both ball parks offer a unique fan experience. sun devil stadium offered nothing and bust player after bust player and 1 playoff appearance and letting every decent player walk is not going to make fans.
to bring it back to the dbacks, the management has changed hands now twice since the colangelo group left and just recently before spring training, one of our owners skipped ship to a division rival in san diego, big questions on that one. so, the identity of our franchise is up in the air – will they make a team in the interest of winning or the interest of the bottom line, etc, etc. i believe this is whats cause all the uproar about the dbacks, because we dont have a track record with these owners to know what they will do. the brandon webb situation will go a long way to determining what kind of product this team wants to put on the field.
i have a life long alliegance to the dbacks as i do to such a thing as Miller Lite, however, if either one showed over and over again that they had no interest in making a good product for the fans/consumers then WHY support them till they get there act together.

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