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Everything you wanted to know about labrums [but were afraid to ask]

The news that Brandon Webb is likely to require surgery on his labrum seems a good opportunity to discuss some of the questions arising from the report. These would include, "What is the labrum?", "What has he done to it?", "I had a friend who had that pierced" and, perhaps, "Would Webb be better off seeing a gynaecologist?" Ok, scratch the last one, and replace it with a couple of more pertinent ones for the Diamondbacks: when will he be able to pitch again, and what are the odds for him being as good as he was before the operation?

Bear in mind that 2009 is the last guaranteed year of Webb's contract with the team. There is a club option for 2010: before this season, that seemed a lock to be exercised, but now... It would cost the Diamondbacks $8.5 million to exercise the option, or $2 million to buy it out. [It was originally $500K, but the buyout increased by $500,000 each time Webb finished in the top five of the NL Cy Young voting - which he won in 2006, and was runner-up in for 2007 + 2008] That decision may depend on the prognosis for our ace's recovery, but it doesn't h1elp that the option must be exercised within five days of the 2009 World Series concluding, so the team can't hang on and see how he's doing in March. it has already been suggested that he may have pitched his last game as a Diamondback. Here's Josh Byrnes' recent comments on Webb:

Audio courtesy of KTAR 620

Follow me after the jump, for Labrums 1.0.1.

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So, what is your labrum anyway?

It's from the latin for 'lip', which explains the piercing comment. However, in this case, it's  full name is the glenoid labrum, a ligament that goes around the socket in your shoulder. (there's also one in your hip,  the acetabular labrum). The actual depression in your bone is quite shallow, so the labrum makes it deeper, effectively increasing the surface area of the shoulder joint, and protects the edge of the bone.

A torn labrum is classified by location.The most common for pitchers is a SLAP lesion, standing for superior labrum anterior posterior - basically, around the area where the biceps tendon attaches to the top of the glenoid. SLAP tears are subdivided into four grades [PDF file], based on severity: a grade I is fraying but no separation, while grade IV have the tears extending into the biceps with flaps moving and catching in the joint.

How did Brandon injure himself? And why did it take more than two months to find out?

At the present time, we're not 100% certain, and it may not be clear until exploratory surgery is carried out. However, the most likely scenario involves a labrum tear, triggered by the fearsome forces involved in pitching a baseball [something described by orthopedic surgeon Dr. Timothy Kremchek as "the most unnatural act in sport"], which feels simply like a slight  'catch' in the overhand throw. The resulting pain and loss of velocity is basically the same as results from any other shoulder injury.

However, with the labrum being buried deep in the shoulder, these tears are difficult to see, even in a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan, which sees soft tissue and can be used to produce 'slices' of images. The only way to be sure at the moment, is for an arthroscopic procedure, in which a tiny camera is inserted into the shoulder through an incision - this will allow a doctor to examine the labrum directly, and check for damage.

Can it be fixed?

There is almost no alternative to surgery for a torn labrum. While this can sometimes be avoided for a torn rotator cuff, with a careful regimen of strengthening action instead, the difference is that the rotator cuff is a group of muscles, which respond to exercise. The labrum is a ligament, so is collagen-based, and so you might as well try to exercise your skin. Surgery is almost always required, though the scope and scale of the surgery does vary.

If the labrum is merely a little frayed, with a loose edge that is 'catching' as the shoulder moves, then the offending fringe can be removed, along with any fragments, and that may restore full movement. This is called "labral debridement", which sounds more like...well, let's not go there, shall we? However, if the tear is more severe, then techniques have recent;y been developed to place 'anchors' into the bone and tie the labrum to the bone, allowing it to heal in the appropriate position.

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How long will he be out?

Recovery time depends upon a variety of factors, including things such as where the tear was located, how severe it was and how good the surgical repair was. After the operation, six to eight months is quoted for the resumption of normal activity, with the appropriate use of physical therapy and strengthening exercises. However, what would generally be defined as 'normal activity' is not likely to include the hurling of a baseball at 90 mph, with a heavy sinking motion.

There is typically a period of three to six weeks of basically complete immobilization [you might get to take the sling off in the shower], another three to six weeks regaining range of motion, and then months building back the necessary strength. Based on the examples below, I'd say even if Webb was to have the operation tomorrow, his availability for Opening Day 2010 must be considered in doubt.

And finally, the $64,000 question: what's the chance of him still being an ace?

Better than they used to be. Writing as recently as 2004, injury guru Will Carroll described is as "baseball's most fearsome injury," and said bluntly, "If pitchers with torn labrums were horses, they'd be destroyed." Fortunately, there have been significant improvements in the surgery, the rehabilitation process and consequently the odds of return to full capacity. It's still not a sure thing, but it is now less the career killer it was, at the original time Carroll wrote. The odds may also depend on the pitcher's action: those who throw with a true overhand motion may be more affected than those who pitch three-quarters or with a moresidearm action.

However, it's far from a sure thing, and there is a very small sample size of top-quality pitchers who have recently gone through the process. Kelvim Escobar had surgery to repair his torn labrum last July. He did make it back to the majors earlier this season [11 months later], but lasted only one start and is now back on the DL - it's uncertain whether he'll pitch again this season. Toronto's Casey Janssen missed the entire 2008 season after an operation in March. He came back in May and made five starts but also broke down, with inflammation  in his throwing shoulder.

Maybe Webb can get some advice from Jon Rauch, who has been under the knife not once but twice for this affliction. He had his first torn labrum while a top minor-league prospect in the White Sox system, which cost him almost the entire 2001 season. But in May 2005, he required further surgery, though it seems likely to have been more "labral debridement," since he returned to the majors in September that year. Ironically, a torn labrum also let him become the Nationals' closer, when Chad Cordero went down with one in April 2008. 

Cordero is an interesting case, because like Webb, it seems to have taken some time for an accurate diagnosis to have been made. He last pitched on April 29, but it was two months later that the torn labrum was found. Surgery followed in July, and Cordero was signed to a minor-league deal by the Mariners this March, after auditioning for several teams, including the Diamondbacks. However, he still hasn't returned to the majors, and the latest report, from a couple of weeks back, had Seattle manager Don Wakamatsu saying, "His velocity is still not where it was before."

So, to sum up then, for those who like to skip to the last paragraph?

If it is indeed a torn labrum, it certainly has the potential to end Webb's career, though whether it will actually do so is almost impossible to say at this point. Looking at the recent victims, it's not re-assuring to see what has happened. If I was the GM and had to make a decision, right here, right now, whether to exercise the 2010 option for Webb... Well, let's just say, I'm glad I'm not. But it strikes me that the insurance companies, whether their fears were connected to this issue or not, may just have helped the Diamondbacks dodge a very expensive bullet, in the shape of a long-term extension.

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Should we exercise Webb's 2010 option?
Yes
104 votes
No
119 votes

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Outstanding post.

An anatomy geek like myself loves these types of posts. I will be linking it for sure.

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by Kyle Boddy on Jun 28, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good report

and different from what you normally see not only here but at most baseball sites.

I’d love for Webb to stick around, and even more I’d love for him to be healthy and to have a long and productive career after this, but I’m feeling the Diamondbacks should err on the side of caution here unless they have significant reason otherwise.

Unfortunately, the Diamondbacks are going to get slammed for either decision. If Webb is never the same or has to take another trip to the DL next season, then that’s a healthy chunk of change for a mid-market team that could be used for a million other hull breaches. If they don’t pickup his option and he has success elsewhere (nightmare scenario being that a divisional rival picks him up like Johnson or Hudson), then the FO is slammed for letting him go.

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by soco on Jun 28, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I need

a “maybe” added to this poll. I know either way, soco is right, and the club will catch flack for whatever decision they make. I think a decision on the option needs to wait until after the surgery—when they figure out just how bad the injury actually is. Who knows? It could be a class I. In that case, I say yeah, give him a chance. Any worse than that, no, probably not. But it’s still maybe.

by emilylovesthedbacks on Jun 28, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Maybe"? Cop-out! :-)

Yeah, it’s one of those cases where I am very glad I don’t have to make the decision. That’s why Josh Byrnes gets paid the big bucks… I note that so far, the vote is split almost equally down the middle, which reflects the strength of the dilemma. As soco says, management will get flogged mercilessly, regardless of what they do.

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by Jim McLennan on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm

making a decision cos I’m a decider. It’s like they say in Kentucky, or is it Texas?

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by soco on Jun 28, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First

Let me say that I truly love your work. This article has been very interesting to me in the sense that I just had the same surgery. I am a college student/athlete that 3 1/2 weeks ago had a labrum tear fixed through surgery. I had a different tear mentioned in this article where I had a Bankart tear which is located beneath your armpit. Mine happened to start a about 6 years ago with my shoulders being naturally loose and coming out of joint which me, my doctor, and physical therapists believe accounted for my tear. We believe that this has been going on for years by the way. But what I would like to say is that I had a former teammate when i was younger go through the same type of surgery yet his was a SLAP tear like you describe. I feel that that is a more major labrum surgery than the Bankart tear that I had. Again I am just reiterating what you said but I thought that maybe from a personal stand point people might see the difference between the tears and what might be a different result depending on the type of tear.

by baseball4mch247 on Jun 28, 2009 2:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best of luck with your recovery

Firstly, I’m not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. :-) I just collate information from people like Will Carroll, who know more about these things, and try to draw the appropriate conclusions. incidentally, I was surprised to find so many professional reporters quoting Will Carroll’s 2004 piece verbatim in recent pieces, without acknowledging that things have changed dramatically in five years – I simply emailed Will, and he basically said as much.

From what I read, SLAP tears appear to be more common among baseball players than the Bankart tears – I don’t know what kind (assuming that is the cause) Webb has, and the doctors probably won’t know that, or the severity, until they go in and take a look. I also get the feeling that younger players (such as Rauch) seem to be better able to recover than older ones, which would make sense generally. It’s still an evolving area of medicine, and I imagine, a few years down the road, will possibly be as routine as Tommy John surgery is these days.

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by Jim McLennan on Jun 28, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling that with the way things have been going...

…that if we exercise the option on him, he ends up coming back in mid-june and has 1-3 mediorce starts then never pitches again during that season. But if we dont, Brandon Webb makes a miracle recover for the team willing to take a chance on him

But a wonderfully researched post. Very enjoyable. Nice work

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by Elway4Prez on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Please

respond if yall don’t mind on my post I feel like that I can explain more in detail/ maybe help figure out how Brandon Webb might recover with this injury from a personal stand point. Thanks.

by baseball4mch247 on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would like to know what exercises you used in recovery

and what type of exercises if any could help prevent this type of injury?

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by E5 on Jun 28, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great piece Jim.

It’s unfortunate that you had to write it though, if you follow me…

It should be interesting to see whether the option is picked up. I have to guess that it will be if the surgery goes well. It’s only an extra $6.5 million (which isn’t a lot relatively speaking, you guys spet more than that on one year of Garland).

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 28, 2009 4:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I voted

“yes”
Just Bcause it’s Bwebb. I know that I’m a Haren guy, but it’d just suck having to let him go. I guess seeing as how Jeff Francis hasn’t been appearing in a while, I might have to change my vote to “no” and save the club 6+ mill

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by sergey606 on Jun 28, 2009 4:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Article! Great Blog!

I voted with my heart and said, “yes”. However, I agree with Josh Byrnes that they’ll have to wait and see until making a decision. I really hope this turns out for the best for Webby. I’ve been a strong fan of his since his rookie debut in 2003.

I’ve also been conducting a lot of research, and one fun fact I found is that Curt Shilling had labrum repair surgery way back in 1995 when it was still cutting edge. He is one of the very few to have gone on to have a successful career afterward during that darker period. Of course, he also had a second surgery fairly recently. Below is a link to where in his blog he talks about his labrum, surgeries, and how unreliable MRIs and diagnostic tools can be. This is complete with actual pictures from his most recent surgery.

http://38pitches.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/curt-schilling/general/2008/07/19/the-scandalous-photos/

by LovesSnakes on Jun 28, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the 'Pit

Very good link from Schilling, so thanks for sharing that [though Curt is clearly just as found of the sound of his own typing, as his own voice, shall we say!]. Obviously, between now and five days after the World Series, they should know a lot more about the scope, scale and severity of the injury, so will be able to make a much more informed decision than we can at the moment.

Like you, I do want Webb to get better and pitch again. Of course, it’d suck if that turned out to be for another team, but I’d far prefer that to, say, him still being a Diamondback and being unable to pitch. Webb has probably been my favorite player on the team for a long time, and even if he is no longer ‘one of us’, I’ll always have a fondness for him and wish him the best (unless he’s actually pitching against us, of course!].

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by Jim McLennan on Jun 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

For the welcome. It’s true, Curt Shilling’s favorite topic of discussion is Curt Shilling. LOL.

by LovesSnakes on Jun 29, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have the feeling

that we’re more likely to see Jack Chick at the Conference of Catholic Bishops than Brandon Webb again in a Dbacks uniform. :-(

And that makes me sad.

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by DbacksSkins on Jun 28, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It seems so

I’m going to miss seeing Hawpe and Webb battle a dozen times a year

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Labrums

They are so hard to repair and accurately diagnose. My roommate lost two seasons of baseball due to three surgeries on his throwing arm labrum. He hopes to play this season, but it is such a tricky injury that there are no guarantees. Webb will probably have better doctors and care, but still it is difficult to repair and to keep it from breaking down again is another issue. This is not like Tommy John where your arm becomes as strong if not stronger after the fact. When it comes to labrums, they may never fully recover and sometimes surgery does not take care of all the tears. Hopefully we can get him back and healthy. Personally, I would pick up his option and see where rehab takes him. I believe he can recover and be a good pitcher again, but it is going to be a long road.

by rapdawg on Jun 28, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I realize Webb is really the only good homegrown starter in frachise history

but I’m surprised the vote is so close on picking up the option. Seems like a huge risk on a tough injury to come back from…$8.5mil is a lot to pay for a guy who won’t play the whole season and may not even be great starter when he returns. Would you sign free agent starter for $8.5mil coming off labrum surgery who may only pitch four months? It doesn’t make much sense from a business standpoint.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 28, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent article

No way can the D-Backs exercise his option. It would be financial suicide to do so. Sorry to see Webb have this major injury but it is likely they last time you will see him pitch like a Cy Young award winner.

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by E5 on Jun 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Exercise the option

If he comes back and has 2-4 mediocre starts, as mentioned before, we can trick the Yankees into making a deal for him and get something out of it.

by Azreous on Jun 28, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good read

As always Jim,

Quick question about his contract, if we did buy it out would we be able to offer him arbitration and therefore get draft picks (presuming he’s still a type A/B free agent)

Time for another drink then?

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by Wimb on Jun 29, 2009 2:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not for that year

If we exercise the option, he’s no longer a free agent. In addition, he probably wouldn’t be a Type A in 2010 anyway, after missing almost the entire season. If we exercise the option, he’d be a free agent in 2011, and then we’d get draft picks based on his status at that point.

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by Jim McLennan on Jun 29, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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