Manny Ramirez suspended for a positive drug test
He'll be gone for 50 games and replaced by Xavier Paul. The have not said what he tested positive for, but Manny is saying that he got it from a doctor for personal medical use.
Dealing with a drug scandal can be difficult. I encourage the Dodgers to look at how we handled the Jason Grimsley issue, and follow our lead.
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by Gravity on May 7, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on, ESPN
If you’re talking about someone who’s tested positive for performance enhancing drugs, is it the best idea to backdrop that with shots of that guy hitting home runs? Do you really want to make that association?
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GODDAMMIT.
WHY COULDN’T THIS HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE WE PLAYED THE FRIGGIN’ DODGERS??
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When I first saw this FanPost, I HAD to click through
just to be sure kishi wasn’t bullshitting us all.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe just as a fanshot
But on the front page? Naw.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a second I thought the same thing
Is it April 1st? Nope.
by TwinnerA on May 7, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!
You said “dope”.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile, across the country
A-Rod is breathing a sigh of relief for the first time in three months.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Office Dodger fan
Just told me. I had to be restrained from pulling my shirt over my head and running around the office, going “Woooooooo!”.
The rest of the season starts here…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on May 7, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I hope this takes the wind out of the Dodgers’ sails. Perhaps they can lose the next 13 games at home.
Also…does this mean the Dodgers new home wins record has an asterix next to it?
by venomfan on May 7, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!
ASTERISK THE HOME WINS RECORD!!
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD
The biggest star in the game right now, widely acknowledged to be the best hitter in baseball…
Wow.
Also, one of the worst attitudes in baseball. Mmm. Schadenfreude A Dodger collapse couldn’t come at a better time for us and we’ve got a series against a Manny-less Dodgers in June..
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TOTAL schadenfreude
He will get clowned the rest of the season after his return. That assumes he doesn’t have an automatic termination clause in his contract for juicing up. The rabbit hole on this story goes a lot deeper, methinks.
by venomfan on May 7, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe it
This story is going to be very interesting the next few days.
Also, man, how embarrassing is the Mannywood section now?
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And gee, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
Oh, wait…
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick, we need some nicknames!
ManRoid
Over-roided
I am not creative enough to think of more.
by venomfan on May 7, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Andro Ramirez?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote
We just keep calling him the same names – none of them repeatable here – but can now add “Cheating” to them as an emphasizer. :-)
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on May 7, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny Ramiroids?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Over-roided
Good for a chant.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm..
TooMannyPills?
It’s a shame he already has a screenname on The Dugout.
by ASUJon on May 7, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now if we could just get Hudson to down.
Like so many times he did with us.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...?
Whaa?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe get injured?
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as it would help the Dbacks
I don’t think I could ever wish injury onto Hudson.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But I can still hope that he hits the ball right at people and strikes out a lot more.
by venomfan on May 7, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now THAT'S appropriate.
But hoping for ODodg to get injured, yeah…. that’s not cool with me.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, have him get some hitting tips from Byrnes.
by Bcawz on May 7, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I am just hoping the Dodgers get a taste of what we had when he was here.
They have been getting his great D and decent bat but soon it all goes away because of injury. That is what we got from him and that is what I hope they get from him, except the great D and decent bat.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We also got
the 17th overall pick in the 2009 draft….
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, thats what the Dodgers get.....
when they go about stealing our players. Lose valuable draft picks =-)
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why
don’t we have something like 5 draft picks before the end of the 2nd round this year?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of
we got 2 first round picks (our own and the Dodgers) and then we got 3 supplemental 1st round picks, 1 because of Hudson, 1 because of Juan Cruz, and 1 because of Brandon Lyon.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have rather kept Cruz and Hudson
by TwinnerA on May 7, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
from the draft pick we received we can replenish our farm system that got depleted because of trades.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I like Lopez over Hudson, I think, but I do wish we still had Cruz.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
After some of the things Hudson said, maybe I don’t want him anyway.
by TwinnerA on May 7, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.....
J.Byrnes and BoMel handled it well, though, as they so often do.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this is right, we have five before the start of the second round. We’ve got two more in the second round.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....
That’s utterly ridiculous. I need to keep up with this because I’m representing the Snakepit in a mock draft pretty soon.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only players I have been able to root for on the Dodgers team
has been Gonzo and Nomar. I don’t know maybe it was all that talk from Hudson about how he was never offered a contract from AZ when he actually was. Maybe it was all the injuries at the worst possible times for us.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His injury at the end of last season was more of a freak injury, though.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with you but....
it was his wrist that got hurt and his wrist got hurt every year he was with us.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then he's due for another freak injury again this year.
I won’t hope for it, but if it happens, so be it.
by TwinnerA on May 7, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I've had many gay fantasies about that as well
oh wait, you mean “get injured” instead of going d….never mind.
by venomfan on May 7, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on you guys!!!
This is just Manny being Manny!
Go DBacks!
by AJforAZ on May 7, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish
Mandy would be this shitty Mandy more often.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Does this mean that we got a chance now to catch up?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
by Turambar on May 7, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately,
we’re not playing them again for awhile.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First week of June
Yes, one of the first things I did was check the schedule.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
But it’s only a 50-day suspension. It would have been more useful in April.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Right now, everything depends on whether the Dbacks can start playing consistent good baseball and how the Dodgers respond under the pressure and under accusations that they don’t have it without Manny.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’ll be interested to see how their offense does without Manny. I think they’re going to see a lot fewer good pitches.
Unless the umpires are still calling the same way they did on Tuesday.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Manny's statement:
Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons.
A personal health issue? Is that like a health concern? (Or my mom’s answer: “VD?”)
MLB Network is now going on about how Manny’s a moron for going to anyone other than a team doctor who knows exactly what drugs are prohibited.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oooooooh, good one
"Score some damn runs, or the baby pandas die"
by sergey606 on May 7, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A personal health issue? Is that like a health concern? (Or my mom’s answer: "VD?")
Delousing shampoo?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching MLB Network too
And they’re absolutely right. Assuming this was legit and it was an actual medication for a medical issue you have to get it cleared by the team physician. It’s not hard to do.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that prescription helped
Since it just cost him $7 or $8 million.
Man, maybe we really do need universal health care in this country…
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must have been some really good Viagra or whatever.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These players that say they take medication and get suspended are stupid.
How hard is it to check with the team to see if what they are taking is banned? Guess it must be too hard to pick up the damn phone. Oh well at least it their stupidity benefits us.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's about public image.
Plausible deniability.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And is generally a waste of time
The players who say “I did it, sorry, I screwed up” are usually the ones who get forgiven quicker…
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's got the roids
as in hemorrhoids.
by TwinnerA on May 7, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for a more important issue
MLB is going to address pitch stealing. riiiiggghhhtttt
Go DBacks!
by AJforAZ on May 7, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is like
Christmas morning all over again.
"Score some damn runs, or the baby pandas die"
by sergey606 on May 7, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only better,
because LA didn’t get deMannyfied for Xmas.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
minus the gross disappointment at getting socks and underwear
Go DBacks!
by AJforAZ on May 7, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh....
my dad just txted me at work: “Manny….. ha ha ha!”
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so this
is what you do at work…..
"Score some damn runs, or the baby pandas die"
by sergey606 on May 7, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
And txting me baseball stuff is what HE does at work, apparently.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
by Azreous on May 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
My day just improved tremendously!
Beer...now there's a temporary solution!
by IndyDBack on May 7, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Intersting point by Tom Verducci
If things go badly for the Dodgers, they now have that $7 mil saved from not having to pay Manny to go out and get a guy if they need to.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Which reminds me...
I really hate the Dodgers.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeppers.
Thanks for reminding me!
It's like living with a six-year old.
by 4 Corners Fan on May 7, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh quite your whining.
Your team just got a huge break, and we aren’t even spending that much more than you.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only $28 million more
Chump change.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Schmidt and Juan Pierre's combined salaries basically.
They’ve been a big help.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, don't blame us.
Blame your idiot GM who thinks he can spend his way to glory.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(And in baseball, you usually can)
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's worked for the Yankees for years
Waaaaait….
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is an idiot.
But my point is that we’re not spending that much more than you. You act like its the Yankees and the Rays or something. The Astros are spending more than us, its really not that big of a difference.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but
the Astros’ GM is another dumbass.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
I still think that doesn’t change the fact we’re not spending that much more than you this season. We’re not in the top 5 for team salaries.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not in the top 5....
but you’re also in the same division with the Dbacks, Rockies, and Padres….. all low-salary clubs.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers lead our division in total salary.
LA is at $ 100,414,592, SF is at $ 82,616,450, CO is at $ 75,201,000 , AZ is at $ 73,516,666, and finally SD is at $ 43,734,200.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
But according to this we’re #9, just aead of the Mariners and Braves, who no one would complain about. The Giants are only four spots lower, and the Rockies and D-Backs are #18 and #20. Obviously, there is a difference, and it definitely helps, I guess I just don’t think its that big of a deal. I still hate the Yankees because of their spending but I don’t feel guilty about our spending, maybe that’s just me.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
if we weren’t a bunch of hypocrites who are just bringing this up because we already hate the Dodgers, we would be willing to give up that 2001 WS trophy, wherein the Greenbacks beat the Bankees….
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like the Yankees spending
has hurt them more than hurt. Ever since they faced the Marlins in the WS they have been spending wildly and have come up short more and more every year. While teams like the Red Sox, who do have a high payroll from some player, have home grown talent like Masterson, Pedroia, Paplebon, and so on.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox way
is much more like the Dodgers way, though. They spend a ton of money to sign some free agents, yes, but then they also spend a ton to keep THEIR young guys around.
I am NOT looking forward to seeing Justin Upton in Yankee pinstripes. :-(
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They've consistently put together very good teams.
I think the failures in the playoffs are due to bad luck more than anything.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno.
I agree with that idea to an extent, but considering how long that streak of futility has extended, I think other factors are in play here. In particular (and I have nothing quantitative to back this up whatsoever), I really think they’re missing people on the roster who were more role player than superstar (think Paul O’Neill in the winding-down days). That, and they’ve severely overpaid for below-average pitching.
by Azreous on May 7, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to the USA today
your are 9th with $ 100,414,592 , the DBacks are 20th with $ 73,516,666. Seems like you guys are spending a lot more than us….
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference between the Dodgers and D-Backs
Is less than the difference between the D-Backs and Padres. Is it fair for the Padres to complain about your spending?
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No,
but it’s fair for them to complain about their spending?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's my point.
We’re not really a top spending team (at least not this year) so I don’t think there is too much to complain about. If the D-Backs spent like an average team, there wouldn’t be too much difference at all. It’s not the Dodgers fault that the D-Backs can’t draw fans.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it wasn't for Manny
you guys wouldn’t be drawing fans either…..
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, LA does always draw a lot of fans.
They’re only there for 5 innings, though. That’s the catch.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Look at the attendance numbers, we always are high up on the list.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea...your right
looks like the attendance even dipped a thousand last year. So it couldn’t of been Manny that brought the attendance up. He does bring the additional sales though through the team shops.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the MLB Attendance Report.
We’ve been in the top 5 every year since 2001, and in the top 3 every year since 2004.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
foreign fans.
I have yet to make it to your ballpark on a road trip with the DBacks. The LA Market is so much bigger than ours, so it would make sense you would draw more. Are there certain clubs that come in that seem to draw huge groups of foreign fans?
In the past couple of years, it seems half of LA has moved to the Phoenix area, we have huge number of transplants from Chicago and back east here, do you see that in LA?
"If you'd need to know, you'd know. but they decided that you don't need to know,so you don't. So stop thinking about what you don't know because you don't need to know what you think you need to know about!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 7, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea.
I live in the Bay Area. There’s lots of transplants here though.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was commenting on you saying that their wasn't a huge differnce.
There is a big differnce 11 spots and 23 mil. I am not arguing the fact with SD.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not whining.
Just saying I hate the Dodgers, that’s all.
By the way, your boy Whitesell went 0-2, but with 2 walks. :-D I hope he’s batting 5th again today.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll get his first hit of '09 today!
Thanks for the update.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First HR, hopefully....
it’d be really nice to get another power bat in the lineup behind Upton and Reynolds. (Especially if CY doesn’t do something about his swing)
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be sweet.
He won’t get too many starts though, right? I mean, you’ve already got Jackson, Byrnes, and Tracy for basically two spots.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tracy
moves over to 3rd sometimes, but probably won’t now that Reynolds is doing well. ::knocks wood::
Byrnes should be replacing CY in CF more often.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is really sad
we have no other option other than EB22. That, is NOT a step up by any means there…
"If you'd need to know, you'd know. but they decided that you don't need to know,so you don't. So stop thinking about what you don't know because you don't need to know what you think you need to know about!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 7, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrnes over CY?
It’s a step up right now, which is what’s important.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's a wash
they both need to be benched
"If you'd need to know, you'd know. but they decided that you don't need to know,so you don't. So stop thinking about what you don't know because you don't need to know what you think you need to know about!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 7, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're paying more to Byrnes.
Makes it more of a waste if he DOESN’T play. If they’re otherwise even, I have no problem playing Byrnes.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Young has potential though.
Sitting him could hurt his confidence/growth, which is probably more important than hurting Byrnes by benching him.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
"If you'd need to know, you'd know. but they decided that you don't need to know,so you don't. So stop thinking about what you don't know because you don't need to know what you think you need to know about!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on May 7, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder about that
If I recall correctly, the Dodgers spent more than anyone thought they’d have free this season, so I’m curious if they were assuming that the Manny contract would pay for itself in attendance. Given the way attendance is down everywhere, I wonder if the Dodgers aren’t breathing a little sigh of relief.
According to this post, attendance after Manny showed up last year was 49,370. Attendance this season averages a bit under 43k. 6000 tickets fewer each game, 81 home games, say at $15 a head, ends up being around $7.3 million- and that’s not factoring in the idea that their attendance may take another nosedive over the next two months.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
All the #99 merchandise people might think twice about buying now.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nosedive isn't the word I should use
But you get my point.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC
They also got a bunch of financial flexibility by deferring money, such as the cash they owed to Andruw Jones.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on May 7, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I'd forgotten
Still, I’ll be interested to see how their attendance numbers do for the next two months.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sucks.
That is all.
It would make it even sweeter if we won the West though, and maybe this means Manny won’t opt-out after this year.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah well,
good luck with that.
(Not really)
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What really sucks is Webb going down after pitching one game.
Who knows if that had an effect on the players’ psyches or not, but the thought of possibly being without the Cy Young runnerup/22-game winner in Webb is pretty devastating as well.
by TwinnerA on May 7, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
We lost Kuroda after Opening Day too, but obviously he’s nowhere near as good as Webb. But it looks like Webb should be back before Manny at least, so you’ve got that going for you.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the same time,
Webb only pitches once every 5 days, but Mandy plays everyday. How good is this Xavier kid you’re calling up?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's alright.
I can’t really think of a good comp, but he’s a borderline starter at this point I think. He’s supposed to be a plus defensive CF’er, he should be okay at getting on base, but I doubt he’ll hit for much power.
In an ideal world he probably becomes Shane Victorino.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAAA guy?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
But I meant more that he’s not really good enough to be a full-time starter yet, but he could be in the future.
He was tearing up AAA for what it’s worth. He was hitting .344/.385/.542 in 106 PA.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny Being Horny
Yahoo is now reporting that Manny tested positive for a sexual enhancement drug
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
by ASUJon on May 7, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh
Okay, now I feel a little sorry for him. That’s just embarrassing to have spread across the national press.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't.
In fact, I’m now relishing this story all the more.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez tested positive for the substance during spring training, then was administered a second test more recently, and it also was positive. Major League Baseball notified Ramirez of the second positive test after Wednesday night’s Dodgers victory over the Washington Nationals
They test you twice? And if so, why’d you keep taking it, dummy?
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Mandy you are talking about
not the brightest tool in the shed.
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Given that I still mentally read all of Manny’s comments as Tracy Morgan on 30 Rock, I assume it’s because Doctor Spaceman told him it was okay.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm?
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny if you watch 30 Rock
Or, at least, if you’re me.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just started watching that recently
and it is funny. How about that one where Tracy Morgan wanted to be an astronaut and they pimped him into thinking he actually went into space.
by TwinnerA on May 7, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I just tried that. It makes everything more fun.
We are naming our kid Emmetalie if we ever get one. The middle name is going to be Baseball. Does that work for you, hon? --Growing Up Cullen
by luckycc on May 7, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It totally does
And it actually makes me hate Manny a little bit less.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greatest idea ever
Thanks for teaching me this art.
This Space For Rent
by Gravity on May 7, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From reading the quote
It sounds like he wasn’t notified of the first positive test, only the second one. That would explain it.
I could be misreading it though.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also
apparently DID appeal the suspension, and his appeal was denied, which is why this came out now. The positive test wasn’t yesterday or anything.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying that he did know about the first test?
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
I think he was appealing the second test, which ended up with the suspension.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody
is having sex with Mandy??
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the illegal substance for which the Los Angeles Dodgers slugger tested positive was not "an agent customarily used for performance enhancing."
I think you could probably call it a “performance enhancer”….
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I have to amend my previous comment.
I’ve had some time to reflect on all this.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
by Azreous on May 7, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way, guys
Now he’s got 50 games to clean his damn helmet!
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And
wash his damn hair!
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny will be eligible to return July 3rd
LA opens a series in San Diego on the 3rd. Road trip anyone? That would be fun to attend.
by ASUJon on May 7, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm down!
I loves me a good road trip.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys too?
Eric just suggested the same thing on TBLA.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we can all get together before the game,
get drunk, and start a ruckus over “YAY MANNY” or “BOO MANNY”.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then
We can all go beat up some of the guys from Gaslamp Ball.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Good call. I like TBLA people much more than GLB people.
Besides, the GLB people are mostly a bunch of 13 yr old snotnosed twerps.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
On the TBLA people being better, no comment on the second part. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
That would be fun. Not sure about the getting drunk though.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drunk wouldn't be mandatory
I’ll lead the “sober but laughing at/with/at the drunk people” contingent.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
Not that I’m against getting drunk, but I won’t be 21 until next year. And of course I never break The Law™. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of COURSE not.
Perish the thought.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To go along with this post
Some musical accompaniment.
(Probably NSFW, just to be safe.)
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird
I JUST sent my girlfriend a text message about that song. We saw Avenue Q last week in NY.
by ASUJon on May 7, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
I haven’t gotten to see it, but the music is pretty entertaining.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a fan of musical theater at all, but I really enjoyed it. Today it’s just perfect.
by ASUJon on May 7, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.....
my ex-gf was a huge fan.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Will Carroll's blog post at BaseballProspectus:
UPDATE 4: Give T.J. Quinn the points: He gets the scoop that the drug Ramirez was suspended for was HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin.) Simply put, it boosts testosterone.
From here.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
That’s SOME “personal medical issue” that Mandy’s dealing with — not having enough testosterone. Poor guy.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
My first guess from the original statements was that he was getting treated for, cough, glaucoma.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....
that’s some good glaucoma treatment you got there, man….
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, it sounds like HCG
is used by a lot of steroid users as a masking agent.
Must just be a coincidence, that.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not as a masking agent
To counteract some of the negative side-effects of steroids.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It reduces unnatural testosterone
and increases natural testosterone to compensate.
HCG is a women’s fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body’s natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Who's Next?
We’re literally to the point where we just sit here and wait for the next name to be called. It’s nauseating. Sure, it was just a “medical pill” but as we learned from Alex Rodriguez, the players’ side of the story is usually a little off. Either way it’s still freakin’ banned.
Albert Pujols? David Ortiz? Ryan Howard? How about Ken Griffey Jr.?
It’s sad and I hate seeing it. I’m at the point where I don’t even want to know who is next. I just want all of this to be done with.
I am happy about the outcome of the situation though.
Wear your own fur.
by Sprankton on May 7, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought I heard some rumblings about Oritz
taking some awhile back….
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It WOULD explain why
he’s pretty much sucked the past few years….
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't been the same since he hurt his wrist last year.
Could be an injury caused by him taking steroids….
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols,
which makes me sad. :-(
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope I don't ever hear Pujols's name in a steroid report.....
by Pyromnc on May 7, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or this guy
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on May 7, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Zug be with you.
And also with you.
by NewJackCity on May 7, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize in advance for this joke
But if Manny took this for sexual reasons, does that mean he’s a PEDophile?
And I apologize afterwards, too.
"Sadly, faced with his mother's twisted, yet impeccable logic, Richard Castle's head exploded."
by kishi on May 7, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
::facepalm::
"Besides, this is freaking 2009.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMNED FLYING CAR??"
by DbacksSkins on May 7, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want a Manny Shirt!
Manny Ramirez 50 games off drug penalty t-shirt
http://teesunleashed.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/Index/design/design/3645155
The OFFICIAL Mrs. SnakePit
by mrs snakepit on May 7, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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