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Dan Haren goes down with a case of the no-runs.

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Dan Haren goes down with a case of the no-runs.

Record: 1-1. Pace: 81-81. Change on last season: 0.

Poor Dan Haren. Life just isn't fair. Yesterday, Brandon Webb got shelled for six runs in four innings, and escaped with a no-decision. Tonight, Haren pitched seven brilliant inning, spoiled only by a solo shot to Troy Tulowitzki, and ends up taking the loss. Anyone who thinks a W-L record is really of any meaning as far as assessing a pitcher's quality, should have the box-score from tonight's game tattooed on their forehead.

I'm not sure what happened to the offense overnight, but it wasn't pretty, whatever it was. Four singles and a Stephen Drew double: that was the sum total of the production this evening. Drew had two of our five hits, plus a walk, while Jackson got a hit and a free pass. That double, with one out in the sixth, was the only time after the second inning that we had a man in scoring position, but Chad Tracy popped out to shallow left and, after a Conor Jackson walk, Miguel Montero went down, swinging as if auditioning for 300, on a pitch that was somewhere around his neck. The white flag was run up the flagpole by Arizona at the end of the seventh, when we saw Eric Byrnes pinch-hit for Haren, lining weakly out to the infield, while Jon Rauch warmed up. I think we all knew that was game over, man - game over.

Arizona's best chance of breaking through against Ubaldo Jimenez - who reduced his career ERA against us to 2.18 - came in the second. After Jackson singled and Montero struck out, Mark Reynolds legged out an infield hit, despite the best efforts of Tulowitzki to throw him out. Justin Upton then worked a solid walk, showing fine plate discipline, to load the bases with one out. Admittedly, Haren was at the plate. but since the departure of Micah Owings, he has been our pitcher who knows best how to handle the bat. However, that proved not to be the case today, as he rolled into a double-play, ending the inning and sucking the life out of the stadium. [26,637 in attendance tonight - obviously, a drop from Opening Day, but they did get to enjoy the game with the roof open]

It would be unfair to condemn Haren for his actions, since it's not as if any of the other hitters exactly covered themselves in glory, and you can't expect him to do everything. He certainly did a beautiful job in his main role - on the mound. Haren pitched seven innings of three-hit ball, with no walks and nine strikeouts; he struck out the side in the fifth, unfortunately, after allowing Tulowitzki's long-ball to deep left, leading off the inning. He stranded a lead-off double on second in the first, and also got out of a jam in the third when a wild pitch put a man on third-base with one out. Dan then struck out the #1 and #2 for the Rockies to end that threat. No: Haren was about the least of Arizona's problems tonight: before the game, I was hoping for a quality start, and he more than surpassed those expectations.

The bullpen, on the other hand... As noted above, it was largely taken as a sign of surrender when we saw Jon Rauch warming up, and so it proved when he came in to replace Haren in the eighth inning. He got the first batter, but a double, RBI single, groundout and walk followed: with two on and Todd Helton up, Bob Melvin turned to LOOGY Doug Slaten, but the results proved as disappointing as yesterday - Helton singled, to make the score 3-0. The inherited runner was charged to Rauch, giving him an ERA of 27,00: it may be early days, but on the basis of tonight it does not seem that the hideous spring training numbers were an exaggeration. About the only plus would be, better for him to give up a pair of runs when we're 1-0 down, than when we're 1-0 up. Situational suckage: that's what we saw tonight.

Slaten, too, is making a pretty good case for finding himself on the bus to Reno next week, when Max Scherzer comes back to the roster. It didn't help things that one of the other candidates for the trip, Juan Gutierrez, saw his first action, and provided the only decent performance from our relief corps. Gutierrez retired all four batters he faced, with a pair of strikeouts, first bailing Slaten out in the eighth and then sticking around to pitch the ninth, with the game now slipping from the Diamondbacks' grasp. That gave the pitching staff a total of eleven K's for the night, with just the one walk: those numbers, and three earned runs, were certainly a massive improvement over those yesterday. But the way Jimenez dominated the offense, we could have been perfect and all that would have got us is extra innings.

But, to end the recap on a happy note, it's probably a good thing we didn't have a save situation tonight, since Chad Qualls was not at the park. That was because his wife gave birth to a baby boy, Caiden Joseph at 8:40 p.m. this evening, so congratulations to them both. Now, Chad: get your butt back to the ball-park, because our bullpen needs you. Indeed, we could probably use Caiden Joseph too: before you know it, he'll be throwing a rattle out of his pram, in the mid-90's, with devastating late movement... [And anyone notice Brandon Lyon got smacked about for three runs in an inning of work, and took the loss for Detroit today?]

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[Click on graph to enlarge, at Fangraphs.com]
Master of his domain: Dan Haren, +25.3%
God-emperor of suck: Chad Tracy, -13.6%
Dishonorable mention: Montero, -12.1%; Rauch, -11.4%

The losing pitcher of record in tonight's game, also gets to be master of his domain. Indeed, he would also have been god-emperor of suck, at -17.5%, for his performance at the plate, but starting pitchers are exempt  there. Normal volume resumed in the Gameday Thread too, with just shy of 500 comments from 26 people. Present were; Turambar, kishi, DbacksSkins, unnamedDBacksfan, Phoenix Stan, Gravity, hotclaws, Wimb, snakecharmer, luckycc, dbacksbj, emilylovesthedbacks, TwinnerA, mrssoco, LucaMaz3, Tom (RFTN), singaporedbacksfan, J Up, DKuon, oklahomasooners, Snake Bitten, ASUJon, Azreous, Muu and soco - emily topped the chart, with 101 comments. Dbacksskins had almost twice as many comments over on Purple Row as he did here, which seems more than a tad disloyal...

And, for the first time this season, we get to utter the immortal words: "Well, at least the Dodgers lost, too." The Giants take an early lead in the NL West, having opened their record today with a win over the Brewers. I suggest they enjoy it while it lasts, because with all due respect, I don't see them being there for very long. Tim Lincecum lasted even less time than Webb, but the Giants' offense put up a ten-spot on the Brewers. After our wacky Opening Day yesterday, I wouldn't have expected anything less.

Here are the post-game audio clips from tonight's contest. Dan Haren talks about his at-bat with the bases and Troy-boy's home-run, while Justin Upton is disappointed at wasting a fine effort from Haren. Bob Melvin talks about both starting pitchers as well as Jon Rauch - he points out the velocity was a bit better from Rauch, hitting 92 mph on the gun, better than it has been, but the end result is what matters. Finally, there's a chat with Max Scherzer who is scheduled to start Thursday for Class-A Visalia against the Lake Elsinore Storm, just to stretch out his pitch count, before returning to the club. He seems pretty on board with the team's caution.

Audio courtesy of KTAR 620

The rubber contest in this first series of the season takes place tomorrow afternoon, with a 12:40 start, and Azreous on the recap, for the first time this season. Davis vs. Morales is the match-up, and having seen both an offensive slug-fest and a hard-fought pitching duel between starters, we'll see what that will bring.  Hopefully, an Arizona win, to send us into the upcoming, important series against the Dodgers with a good frame of mind.

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Not gonna lie

This was painful to watch, made more painful by the fact that I was in a sea full of people I work for and thus couldn’t even properly jeer Tulowitski but whatever. We lost the first two last year, so really we are 50% better than we were this time a year ago?

I am hesitent to say it, but I am really nervous about Byrnes. I might not know much about sports, but I know just enough about psychology to say that guy is walking around with like a mountain on his shoulders and it is turning into a self fufilling prophecy. There has to be some way to get him some confidence back. (My vote is to shave the facial hair and get him to just score ONE good homerun. I would settle for the shaving.)

And as a personal note, the national anthem was sung tonight by my kids (the ones I work with, not the ones I don’t have ;)) and they were KILLER CUTE. I mean, I was pretty dubious as they had four “aides” and twenty kids and they were supposed to walk to and from with out one of them running, falling down, or screaming bloody murder? But they did and they were awesome so I wanted Snakepit to know. Temple Solel Preschool, rocked the national anthem and only had one embarrassing kid-with-finger-in-nose incident. So proud!

"Treat your mind like a bad neighborhood - don't go there alone."

by mrssoco on Apr 8, 2009 3:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We won on Opening Day

We lost the next two after that, but we’re dead even with where we were in 2008.

"I coulda been better. I coulda broke every record in the book... And then when I walked down the street people would've looked and they would've said there goes Roy Hobbs, the best there ever was in this game."

by Jim McLennan on Apr 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah....

with any luck, Jimenez’ start was our Johnny Cueto moment for 2008. He’ll suck from now on.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope so

he’s one of those Verducci Rule guys, as listed by SI.com from what I read

"I always think one step ahead, like a carpenter....the builds stairs"

by sergey606 on Apr 8, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,

he was due to be a Verducci Rule victim last season, but Verducci predicted (before the ’08 season) that his physique would protect him.

He was right, apparently. Jimenez was the only pitcher on Verducci’s list NOT to regress last season, IIRC.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

This is why I should lay off the heavy drugs, I am totally losing my brain cells. ;)

"Treat your mind like a bad neighborhood - don't go there alone."

by mrssoco on Apr 8, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh

I saw “your kids” on Channel 3 before the game rehearsing. They were so cute. One little boy was shown with his father who said his boy had been practicing at home after school every day (for 2 mos. I think!) and that every day he asked if today was the day they would go to the game and sing and finally the dad yesterday got to say yes!

by TwinnerA on Apr 8, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT WAS MY FAMILY!

Well, one of them, I nanny for that little boy and have since he was 18 months! He is so adorable.

The little girl I work with most was also interviewed but I missed it. She has been singing me the national anthem three days a week for months and when she got out on the field she froze and hid in the back. Of course when she got back to the section she forgot how scared she was and told me she was Hannah Montana now (she has been on TV, that is JUST LIKE Hannah. ;))

"Treat your mind like a bad neighborhood - don't go there alone."

by mrssoco on Apr 8, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The kids were adorable

Hannah Montana, not so much. I don’t see what the kids see in her. That show of her is awful and she is IMHO a lousy actress.

by TwinnerA on Apr 8, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She's really good

at having a famous name, though.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

She is good at having a famous Daddy. ;)

"Treat your mind like a bad neighborhood - don't go there alone."

by mrssoco on Apr 9, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

her dad is Joe Montana?

What? neh-are you se-no! No! I hh I I don't even't know what you're sayinhow whatdoyou whatdoyou talking about you want me to go away? I I I I can't no! I can't I can't just leave I - ...you can't leave me!

by soco on Apr 9, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, baby. Joe Montana.

"Treat your mind like a bad neighborhood - don't go there alone."

by mrssoco on Apr 9, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

knew it. She’s has his mullet.

What? neh-are you se-no! No! I hh I I don't even't know what you're sayinhow whatdoyou whatdoyou talking about you want me to go away? I I I I can't no! I can't I can't just leave I - ...you can't leave me!

by soco on Apr 9, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a replica

Joe Montana’s mullet resides in the NFL Hall of Fame.

"You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

by kishi on Apr 9, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahahaha

you win, good sir.

What? neh-are you se-no! No! I hh I I don't even't know what you're sayinhow whatdoyou whatdoyou talking about you want me to go away? I I I I can't no! I can't I can't just leave I - ...you can't leave me!

by soco on Apr 9, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ like a billion

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea.

Hannah Montana annoys me greatly. Her friend (Lily/Lola) is actually a decent enough actress that I don’t want to claw my eyes out. Beyond that… argh. I am pretty sure the people at Disney Channel think of the most annoying concepts just to see how far they can take it.

There are few kids things I find unannoying, though, so usually when I am around my kids I try and get them to listen to other things. Today, for example, we jammed out to Jackson 5 and I got serenaded by the older one to a horrible Passover Song. :)

"Treat your mind like a bad neighborhood - don't go there alone."

by mrssoco on Apr 9, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Temple Solel Preschool, rocked the national anthem and only had one embarrassing kid-with-finger-in-nose incident. So proud!

Should be. They sounded great. And the kid who partially disrobed was hilarious :-)

If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09

by Diamondhacks on Apr 8, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about that!

Oh, memories. They recorded it and I am totally getting a copy. It was hilarious and kind of eye opening, I had at one time babysat for … almost all of them. There was the nose picker (babysat) the disrober (didn’t babysit, but was in my class) and my personal fave was the boy who noticed he was on the screen and put his arms out like he was singing opera (babysat for him!).

And I am so quiet and normal, they totally didn’t learn any of that from me.. ;)

"Treat your mind like a bad neighborhood - don't go there alone."

by mrssoco on Apr 9, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah DbackSkins

is a real subversive. Perhaps they are drawn to the myriad of personalities and lively banter available at Purple Row. It is a happening place.

by PinchHitLancePainter on Apr 8, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Skins

is one person?

What? neh-are you se-no! No! I hh I I don't even't know what you're sayinhow whatdoyou whatdoyou talking about you want me to go away? I I I I can't no! I can't I can't just leave I - ...you can't leave me!

by soco on Apr 8, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta root out those elements...

I say we call a Congressional hearing, give them something to do to pass the time.

Sorry we don’t have a Skins equivalent for you Jim, with Silverblood in Oxford (not even there now, she’s taking a tour of your old stomping grounds for a couple of weeks) our potential cross blog posters are just not quite as prolific.

by Rox Girl on Apr 8, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HUAAC?

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the same offense as last year.

Score a few runs or no runs with an occasional explosion of runs every two weeks.

Because this is Arizona.

by damdrs1717 on Apr 8, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah....

about that…?

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

[And anyone notice Brandon Lyon got smacked about for three runs in an inning of work, and took the loss for Detroit today?]

I’ve forgotten…. did we get a draft pick from the Tigers?

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dbacks did get a 1st round pick for Lyons

by Pyromnc on Apr 8, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Close

Lyon was a Type B, so we only got a supplemental-round pick, between the first and second, not anything from the Tigers directly.

"I coulda been better. I coulda broke every record in the book... And then when I walked down the street people would've looked and they would've said there goes Roy Hobbs, the best there ever was in this game."

by Jim McLennan on Apr 8, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoops

Thought type B FA brought in a 1st round unless it was top 15. Forgot about Hudson and saw in the draft order that the DBacks had an extra 1st round and assumed that it was for Lyon.

by Pyromnc on Apr 8, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, Hudson.

This is why him going to the Doggers is pretty much the best case scenario for us — they get a declining Orlando Hudson, and we got the highest possible draft pick we could have gotten.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

It means we’ve got three drafts picks before the Dodgers even get their first.

"You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

by kishi on Apr 8, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In THEIR face...

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought....

but I wasn’t sure whether he was a Type A or Type B.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im just glad

that we used Rauch when we were losing, instead of when we had a small lead on Monday. Lets hope that trend continues…..

You know how to cut to the core of me, Baxter. You're so wise. Like a miniature Buddha, covered with hair.

by Snake Bitten on Apr 8, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully that is how it goes if they are going to give up runs but I am concerned about Slaten and him. Slaten allowing runs in consecutive games and Rauch continuing where he left off last year. I know it is only the first 2 games of the season so I will not grill them unless this continues throughout this month.

by Pyromnc on Apr 8, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess Slaten wasn’t credited for that last run but he still gave up the hit that allowed the run to score.

by Pyromnc on Apr 8, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I should

finally ban DbackSkins.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Apr 8, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Literally.

"I coulda been better. I coulda broke every record in the book... And then when I walked down the street people would've looked and they would've said there goes Roy Hobbs, the best there ever was in this game."

by Jim McLennan on Apr 8, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is how

Russ keeps me honest.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes!

Kinda glad I wasn’t around for this.

Go DBacks!

by AJforAZ on Apr 8, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: If you thought Randy Johnson was hard on birds,

he ain’t got nothing on this creepy turtle.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also OT,

Joba gets caught on camera bashing Yogi Berra and New Yorkers. Can we say “schadenfreude”? :-)

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joba hates New York?

I’m gonna take a page from soco’s playbook and go with “Ah bloo bloo bloo.”

"You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

by kishi on Apr 8, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

While talking smack about New Yorkers is okay, don’t make fun of Yogi Berra. Not cool.

"You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

by kishi on Apr 8, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

U R

talking to yourself again…..

"This is it. That moment they told us in high school where one day, algebra would save our lives."

by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 8, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naw

I’m just hitting post before I finish the thread.

"You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

by kishi on Apr 8, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The lack of an edit

button is the only fault I can find with SBN

"This is it. That moment they told us in high school where one day, algebra would save our lives."

by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 8, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I also think regular posters should be able to delete their own comments — like with FanPosts or FanShots.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh?

Artificially inflating your comment total, I see?

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which,

holy crap…. I passed 35k last night and didn’t even notice.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I gotta stay in the race somehow.

"You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

by kishi on Apr 8, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DId anyone notice. . . .

that Micah Owings’ 1st action this year was as a PH in their opener. He was the 1st Ph off the bench hitting for Aaron Harang in the 5th.

by golfmanthee on Apr 8, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm still sad/mad Micah's gone

I want him to do well, but just wish it was for us.

by TwinnerA on Apr 8, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't mind. . . .

making a move for Dunn – there was a chance to get an elite hitter and make the playoffs. Flags fly forever and all that jazz. . . .

But I agree on Micah – I wish they could have given up someone else. I think Micah makes it but as a position player, not a pitcher. He doesn’t have the stuff to be the power pitcher he wants to be but I think someone eventually gives him a shot at 1B or 3B (which he played in college) or LF and let shim hit every day.

by golfmanthee on Apr 8, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welp,

the recaps I do tend to be of “interesting” games. Whether that’s a positive or not always remains to be seen.

by Azreous on Apr 8, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh man

This is going to be a good season.

"I always think one step ahead, like a carpenter....the builds stairs"

by sergey606 on Apr 8, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

::knocks wood::

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

{{whispers}}}

so agree there!!

"This is it. That moment they told us in high school where one day, algebra would save our lives."

by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 8, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anyone is paying attention

to the Florida Marlins play the Nats this past week the player we traded for Racuh, Emilio Bonifacio, is just owning it up right now. In 12 AB he is batting .583 with 1 HR and 4RBIs along with 4 SB. Rarely do I question a trade especially one I was in favor for to begin with but Rauch I really dislike you right now.

by Pyromnc on Apr 8, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to add.

The dislike is almost borderline hate.

by Pyromnc on Apr 8, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Small sample size,

and/or lousy pitching. Bonny doesn’t have a single non-ITP home run in his major league career — and his OPS+ is an embarrassing 64. Sure, he has speed, but you can’t steal 1st base, and he’s got absolutely no power.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 8, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never quite got. . . .

why everyone thought Bonifacio was a big-time prospect. His minor leaguye numbers are thoroughly underwhelming: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=bonifa001emi

With those numbers he would have to be a genius defender to be worth it and he isn’t.

Rauch OTOH has put up solid numbers for a few years now – in the long run that will end up being a good trade for the DBAcks.

by golfmanthee on Apr 8, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think most people agree with you.

The short-term results just make us sad.

by Azreous on Apr 8, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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