Gameday Thread, #17: 4/25 vs. Giants
by Jim McLennan on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
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Only five National League pitchers since 1992 have begun their careers with a double-digit streak of winless starts:
Angel Guzman: 14 games (2006-08)
Jay Bergmann: 14 games (2005-07)
Patrick Misch: 11 games (2007-08)
Cal Eldred: 11 games (1998)
Kevin Olsen: 10 games (2001-02)
One feels in particular for Bergmann, who lost only four of those fourteen games and on two occasions, was pulled when his team was ahead by three, but they couldn't hold on. It's of significance today, since this will be Max Scherzer's tenth start for the Diamondbacks, and he has yet to get a W beside his name. Today would be a nice opportunity to do so.
To do so, however, the Diamondbacks are going to have to beat another Cy Young winner - one who possesses perhaps a special interest in beating his former team. Yes, it's Randy Johnson, this evening going for win #297. He certainly had no problem disposing of Arizona for win #296 last weekend, throwing seven innings of shutout ball, with Augie Ojeda finally breaking up the no-hitter in the seventh, and providing the only knock for Arizona against their old ace. I certainly hope for better at-bats than we saw from our hitters last night, where there was a depressing tendency to do nothing more than foul off the fastballs, which then gave Lincecum full reign to carve them with the change or the rest of his arsenal.
Lineup
- Lopez 2B
- Ojeda SS
- Reynolds 3B
- Clark 1B
- Byrnes LF
- Young CF
- Upton RF
- Snyder C
- Scherzer P
Wow. Every single one of our batters from the alleged "clean-up" man down - six all told - have a batting average below the Uecker line, that starts with ".1". In the first series, that might be plausble, but during the third weekend of the year, after 16 games? Ouch. I know the whole thing about getting as many right-handed batters in against Johnson as possible, but Tony Clark hasn't had a single hit in two weeks, and is 0-for-14 with seven K's since his last knock. We'd better hope the top two get on and Reynolds homers, because I don't have a lot of confidence in the rest of the line-up. Hence, it's back to threatening defenseless animals.
Looks like Drew's hamstring is bothering him, and may necessitate a stint on the disabled list - yeah, the news keeps getting better and better, doesn't it? As well as Melvin talking about that, we also have Brandon Webb discussing his latest injury, with the best estimate being six weeks before he's ready to return, which will indeed take him into early June. Aargh. By that stage, any hope of us competing in the National League West could be nothing but a faint memory... Anyway, here's the clippage from before today's game:
Audio courtesy of KTAR 620
I am going to be at work for first pitch, and will eventually be heading up Seventh St. to Camelback, where Mrs. SnakePit is selling beads at a Hippiefest. Maybe we'll have dinner at the D-back Denny's, since that's in the area, though not having a ticket stub, we'll have to pay full price. Shocking... ;-) It may therefore be a little late, if at all, by the time I show up in the Gameday Thread. Probably for the best, as I'm not sure I would be able to stand the sense of doom and futility left over from last night.
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Every single one of our batters from the alleged “clean-up” man down – six all told – have a batting average below the Uecker line, that starts with “.1”.
Oy!, But, nonetheless, I am off to the game.
LET’S GO DBACKS!!!
Time to use Raid® on those gnats!!
"If you'd need to know, you'd know. but they decided that you don't need to know,so you don't. So stop thinking about what you don't know because you don't need to know what you think you need to know about!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
Come on, guys
Let’s get some runs.
"is it wrong that 'zombies' is the first place my brain goes when someone dies? Is it 'wrong' or is it simply 'safety-minded'?"
Elsewhere
Brian Barden 3-for-3 for St. Louis to get his average up above .400, and Pujols hit a grand slam as the Cubs sunk to their fourth straight defeat. Just in time for them to come to Arizona…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Pujols and Burnett just killing me on yahoo...
I’ll probably go from 8-1 to 1-8.
Awesome…
Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)
Right now, I choose optimism
Go Dbacks! Beat the Giants!
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Here's an interesting new SB Nation Feature
There’s a page for each game, which allows you to monitor the latest half-dozen comments from each team’s game-day thread, alongside each other. Which will now include this one, referencing the page in question, which… I have a headache. Anyway:
In-Game Thread: Giants vs. Diamodbacks
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Max gets
the first K of the game.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
And then his first hit
On a hit-and-run
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Runners on the corners, 1 out
We need a DP, stat!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
First pitch pop ups
Help too. :)
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
[Best dbackskins voice]
That’s it, this game is over, we’re getting swept.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Besides his terrible run support
inning illustrated why Max doesnt win games. For all the talk about developing that third pitch (change), I wonder if it’s really worth it. With his fastball hop, just throw that and a slider.
Learn how to control the slider, how to get some contact outs (ie popups) on high fastballs, and dont screw with anything else.
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on Apr 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
3 swinging strikes, and Rowand Ks.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
BOOM
Goes the Schezer-flavored dynamite. Let’s see if that puts any life into the bats.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Flip scorches it
Right to the first baseman.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Augie Augie Augie
Single
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Another RJ no-hitter
Broken up by the Littlest Ballplayer.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Apr 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Though just a little quicker
This time…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Apr 25, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a shocker
K from Reynolds. Why am I not stunned by this astonishing developmenb?
And with that, I am so out of here. Go, D-backs!
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
The best thing I've ever heard
Sutton just compared Lincecum to Edward in Twilight.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Before it gets too gloomy
Cheer up, emo kid!
Glitter Graphics – Myspace – Orkut – Bebo – Hi5 – Friendster – Facebook – eBay
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Byrnes pops again
Is there something seriously wrong with their swings or what?
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
Changeup to Ishikawa
to the warning track in right.
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
Major fail
Even with a runner at second, we can get doubled off…
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Cool!
Our pitchers hitting better than a large part of our lineup – not so cool.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Haren, Webb, even Davis had an RBI the other day. Now Scherzer has the hardest hit ball of the game.
Seriously, it’s rather disturbing
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds like a lot of action on the basepaths
But good running nevertheless
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll be alright
He’s got time to rest, and he’s a young, fit athlete.
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And another ball
Hit hard but right to a fielder.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
After a long at bat
Clark walks. Bases loaded.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Bases loaded
Make somthing happen, Byrnes!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
Didn’t make much out of that AB at all.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
When do you think
we’ll have our first closed-door meeting? It’s gotta be coming soon.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Aww
Cute blonde baby in the stands.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
I still hate all Molinas.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Rowan Ks
On three straight pitches. Again.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Rowand's 2nd K
All while swinging… Amazing
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Lots of walks tonight
CY’s turn now.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Go Jup! Do something with the lead off walk.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job!
Thats what I am talking about!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Roberts' expression in the dugout
was hysterical.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Aw I missed it
forced to see the Giants broadcast tonight…. blackout rules….
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked...
Well, imagine a very happy, very heavily tattooed bird and you’ve got it.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Aaand the score is once again 2-0....
Fifth verse, same as the first……
70 pitches, no outs in the 4th.
And activity in the Giants' pen
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Go away
and come back again!
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
First Career Hit Against Randy Johnson
Is a home run. Nice one kid.
by Dan Strittmatter on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
Woohoo!
Nice work Justin!
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Well, fancy meeting you all here.
Miss Snakecharmer gchatted me into joining the GDT.
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I was wondering where is DbackSkins today
following the Draft?
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
RJ
Seems to have totally lost the strike zone
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
Johnson's gone
Gets a nice ovation from the crowd.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
He is still gg into the HOF
as a Dback more likely than not
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I am already waiting for that day
But hoping to see someone who would be the second after him
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Good question
I am trying to figure that out. Not going to be Schilling though.
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
My Snakepit Fantasy Team looking good today
Home runs from Lee and Pujols as well as a solid outing from Pelfrey. Perhaps I’ll take all 10 categories this week.
Go DBacks!
Ball bobbled
But the ump calls Reynolds out. Mark throws his helmet and Melvin comes out of the dugout.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
FSN went to commercial
So I don’t think so. But Mark was probably close there. For a second I thought the ump was going to boot him.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Haven't seen a replay yet
But that looked incredibly close! Maybe it’ll inspire Mark to increase is speed like GoJack.
Ball was two feet
from Ishikawa’s mitt when Mark touched the bag. A particularly bad call.
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on Apr 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
SAFE
Replay shows Mark was well across the bag…AAAAAAUGH!!!
Beer...now there's a temporary solution!
Terrible call
Nice fiery reaction by Reynolds though.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Call in the Mob!
Bring your torches, feathers, tar and pitchforks!
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Reynolds tumbles
Trying the make a play down the line after a long run. Looks ok, though.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Mark SMASH!
It looks like he’s got some energy there.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Good!
Get angry Dbacks! We were just robbed a run.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Angry is good!
We’ve been moping around to long.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
That's why I was wondering if BoMel got tossed
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it to get them fired up.
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
WORST F***ING CALL EVER!!!
Hope that umpire gets his ass kicked in the parking lot after the game.
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It looked like the ump got distracted
by the fielding error.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
spot on
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on Apr 25, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
D'oh!
There goes the lead. Didn’t Max get the memo that our starting pitchers cannot allow any runs to win? And even then it’s 50-50?
by singaporedbacksfan on Apr 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
No but I am :P
And although we’re really close to needing it, I’d say no… let’s see if he lifts the ban for tomorrow’s game.
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know.
I’m around too, and I wouldn’t wanna have to ban myself.
But we really ARE on the verge of being swept. Matt Cain tomorrow? Versus Jon Garland??
I’m about to asplode my own head.
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Sigh indeed
I was at the game and there were a couple Giant fans to my left and behind me. They laughed politely when a lady D-back fan yelled out when Scherzer was pulled that it didn’t matter what pitcher replaced him as we could never make up the difference with our offense anyway. It was so sad but true.
max is a future closer
i really hope the dbacks get smart and realize that he does not have big league SP stuff. He is electric and unhittable for a few innings. i would love this guy as our closer for the next few years.
I heard they would not do it because he is getting paid too much. so is it better to have a SP that is at 100 pitches in the 5th every time out or a solid bullpen pitcher (and possible closer) for that million/year spent?
What do you mean
by “stuff”? The “right stuff”?
Like you say, he’s electric . That’s what I usually associate with “stuff” – the hop on the fastball, the break on the curve, etc. What he doesnt have is sufficient control, which leads to the high pitch counts and deteriorating mechanics by the fifth inning.
I also wonder if he works a little too fast…doesnt take enough time between pitches…and if his stamina (natural or in the gym) is below average?
Maybe he is a closer, but I’m curious what you mean by “stuff”.
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on Apr 25, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Optimism
I will not think about how the score would be tied if the ump hadn’t robbed Reynolds.
I will not think about how the score would be tied if the ump hadn’t robbed Reynolds.
I will not think about how the score would be tied if the ump hadn’t robbed Reynolds.
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CoJack out
I just noticed that, heh. The Giants guys just announced he’s having a reaction to medication. Anybody else hear that? (Did Jim link it and I’m just not paying attention?)
Dental work
according to Sutton
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on Apr 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I hadn't heard that
I just thought he had the flu.
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Ok
So its 3am im totally wasted…. and what have I missed? :)
Time for another drink then?
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Oh, the usual
When we score, we can’t pitch. When we get men on base, we can’t score.
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Congratulations on your inebreation
Scherzer got his first career hit off Johnson.
Upton homered.
First base ump called Reynolds out even though he was on the bag while the ball was still in the air.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Wow :o
Good hit from Max? Im confused about Reynolds though what happened?
Time for another drink then?
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Max doubled
With Reynolds, there were runners on the corners and two out. Reynolds hits, but the second baseman bobbles the ball. Reynolds crosses first base well before the baseman catches the throw and is still called out by the ump.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Hey.
Leave Wimb alone. I’m a big fan of inebriation.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Who says I was teasing?
I wouldn’t mind a couple of drinks at the moment, but I have to work tomorrow.
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Why is he pitching to righties....again?
You know how to cut to the core of me, Baxter. You're so wise. Like a miniature Buddha, covered with hair.
Creeeeeepy!!!!
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 25, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
We need a big, 2 out knock right here
You know how to cut to the core of me, Baxter. You're so wise. Like a miniature Buddha, covered with hair.
Wow.....
how huge is Fatburger’s stolen RBI/hit right now??
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Evening folks
Just got back from Chilli’s [we upgraded from Denny’s]. From our seat on the other side of the restaurant, it looks like Scherzer was pretty gassed before giving up the double and the homer – what did we think? This one on Melvin trying to get his starter the win? That was my immediate thought.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
He pitched really well
and the end of the 5th just kind of blew up on him… he was almost out of it several times.
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This one on Melvin trying to get his starter the win?
This one’s on our lineup that, after four innings, parlayed a single, double (by the pitcher), two run homer and seven walks into two – count ‘em, two! – runs. Randy Johnson’s nothingness today cannot be overstated. He pitched like Lyndon Johnson.
Did BoMel leave Max in, trying to get him the win? Sure – and while I normally dont like that, the politics of it for this kid are pretty compelling. Winless in ten starts. I agree Scherzer didnt look real good opening the fifth (a walk and long flyout, I think), but the big damage was all done with two outs, after he struck out Lewis. His velocity looked pretty good to me, and he came close to getting out of the fifth, either leading or tied.
This team failed when they needed to win one of two big home games, and Bob Melvin’s role in that is certainly a legitimate issue, but crying strategic incompetence every time (or almost every time) an AZ pitcher yields a run after the fourth inning distracts folks from our club’s real problems.
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
by Diamondhacks on Apr 26, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Scoreless inning from Rauch
Two in a row. When was the last time that happened?
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
It was a medium-leverage situation too
Would be oh so great if he could hold onto a middle-of-the-bullpen role
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
Maybe with the
“demotion” he won’t feel so much pressure…
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm crossing my fingers
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
However...
Byrnes doesn’t. Second extra-base hit of the day. Signs of life?
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Plus a double last night
I think he’s coming around.
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Rauch doesn't blink
He’s freaking me out!
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
can someone hit
like they arent a good team anymore
Well, nothing
That’s kind of the obvious answer. ;)
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to say
We’ve had a lot more base-runners tonight than the Giants – 15 to 10. They just bunched theirs in one inning.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Apr 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again
We use our lesser LOOGY, Slaten in a one-run game, and hold Schoeneweis back until the Giants have doubled their lead. Can anyone explain this to me?
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
But at least he
Forgot to catch it with veteran presence.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Apr 25, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
well this isnt helping the hangover :(
not 1 bit :(
Time for another drink then?
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Ok, last chance
Let’s get those runs back!
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Reynolds singles
Let’s go Dbacks!
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Tony Clar's veteran prescence
gets booed.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Sigh
Byrnes grounds out.
Optimism is hard.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
The puppies let us down.
Babe Ruth was a jerk but baseball's still a beautiful game - Dean Winchester
Lock and load...
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Apr 25, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
At least put
the pictures of the result behind a jump-cut!! :/
by snakecharmer on Apr 25, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
oh lovely....
well :( sleep time, have fun everyone!
Time for another drink then?
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Ker-splat
Guess it was a good time to take a dinner break. C’mon D-Backs, I don’t want to watch a whole season of this.
"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson
This result
is trying ny attempts at optimism.
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