The Dodgers finances might be facing the perfect storm.
The reigning NL West champions could be facing a cash crunch, as the McCourt's divorce and deferred salaries ($14m due next year) combine to create a situation where the team could be scraping the bottom of the free-agent barrel. For fans of any other team in the NL West, it's a marvelous read.
Says the author, "I'm out of positives. I'm disgusted. Today I fear and I loathe what the McCourts have done and will do." Woo-hoo. Dancing in the streets scheduled for 9pm.
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9pm??
Hell, I’m heading out now to hike South Mountain, I’ll be doing back flips down the National Trail
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Dec 26, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions
Wow
When you’re deferring a two million dollar deal, things are bad.
Can we move up the dancing in the streets to an earlier time? I’ve got a whole day of laughing at them planned out, and schadenfreude can be exhausting.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
I mean
At least we got a World Series ring out of our deferred payments. They’ve earned two NLCS losses.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
And, really
This is another reason why the Garland trade looks like it’ll be a win for us. We took the guy a lot of Dodgers fans assumed would give them a starting second baseman for a bargain price in 2010- instead, the Dodgers are going to have to spend money they don’t have on a basic position, and they’ll end up with even less cash for a starter they badly need. It’s a win even before Abreu plays a single game for us.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
Abreu
a starting second baseman? the guy can’t stay healthy. have fun with him.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Sure
Get back to me when you convince the rest of your fanbase that you didn’t really want Abreu anyway, and you really would have rather had six starts out of Garland that weren’t really meaningful anyway.
Besides, are you arguing that the Dodgers having to defer even a relatively minor contract isn’t a sign that something is terribly wrong with their finances?
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
I doin't disagree
about the Dodgers financial picture….but the Dodgers have been down on Abreu for a few years. He can’t stay healthy.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
That's not the entire story
Torre put Abreu in his doghouse for Abreu “faking” a sports hernia and was too stubborn to let him out.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 27, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Abreu
where does he play when you sign Kelly Johnson? Tuscon?
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Backup
At shortstop, second base, and third base. Then KJ and Webb leave for 2011 and Abreu inherits 2B (as he hits arb, but with a smaller reward if he’s not playing everyday).
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Hehe....
that was so dumb…..
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Because a hernia
Is a sign of being injury-prone. And because injury-prone guys make it to the majors by age 22 all the time, right?
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 27, 2009 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
Only
if you also do a lot of very heavy lifting.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
All it means. . .
is that the Dodgers will be sold, probably to someone with really deep pockets, whom will come in and spend, spend, spend. The Dodgers are too important of a franchise to languish in poverty and debt for too long.
Yep. Let’s hope the McCourts fight it, though. It’d be grand to have San Diego North in our division.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
bitter much?
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 27, 2009 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
just a tad, me thinks
he’s too busy worrying about Fake teams, I doubt he knows how to respond to real life
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Dec 27, 2009 4:22 AM EST up reply actions
I just think
That this whole McCourt thing is seriously impacting the Dodgers, but lots of Dodger fans don’t want to see it. Two words: Carlos Santana. Enjoy paying Russell Martin for worse production than you could be enjoying for $400k!
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 27, 2009 4:39 AM EST up reply actions
how's Carlos
Quentin doing in Arizona…I mean Chicago?? and giving up 5 years of Scherzer for 1-2 years of Jackson makes alot of sense…..to nobody.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Carlos Quentin?
Been injured the past two years, had the lowest fielding percentage of all AL left fielders in 2008, and hit .236 last year. So, you want to pick a more recent, accurate target?
As for Scherzer- we needed to fill a rotation spot, so we traded an injury-prone reliever and a starter (who will quite possibly end up in the pen anyway) for two starters. Believe it or not, raygu, you’re not the end-all-be-all of sports analysis. There are actually people out there who think the trade will work out well for the Diamondbacks.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
made sense
to trade Quentin and give Byrnes a 4 year deal….or was it 3 years? That worked out well. and you can’t discount the 36-100-.288-.394-.571-.965 season he had in 2008. and is it possible he hit .236 because he was hurt?
Kennedy is a 5th starter at best……
Will the DBacks sign Jackson when he becomes a FA?
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Really
After the Andruw Jones fiasco, Los Angeles has Arizona beaten, hands-down, when it comes to monumentally disastrous outfielder contracts…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Dec 27, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
couldn't agree more
it was a bad signing……every team has a few of those, don’t you think? but somehow LA still won the division the last two years.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
The Byrnes deal is an entirely different matter
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
Because it was a PR decision
Not a baseball decision, so blaming it on the baseball people is like saying Joe Torre sucks because the Dodgers sell those ridiculous Manny-dread-hairpiece things.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
And because
by all indications, it was made entirely by Jeff Moorad. Josh Byrnes wasn’t even aware of it.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Yeah,
Because when general managers don’t see contract extensions before they’re signed, it always ends up good for Jeff Moorad who now owns the Padres.
We disagree, we see him as a 4th, I don’t know why, but we’ve had a good eye for pitchers.
Probably not, because he’s a Boras guy, but there’s a huge chance Scherzer’s in a ‘pen by that point, and we’re trying to win now in 2010 while your Dodgers are in no-man’s land.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 27, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
no man's land??
how so? not sure what you mean by that. do you think McCourt’s divorce will change the performance of the core on the field? they lose Randy Wolf and Orlando Hudson to free agency and now they are in no-man’s land?
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
They lose Orlando Hudson, Randy Wolf, Jon Garland,
Have a depleted farm system from trades (i.e. to get Garland), saw Manny Ramirez struggle in the second half of ‘09, and can only manage to acquire Jamey Carroll, plus the future looks even bleaker since they, as mentioned before, have few prospects. Who’s fleshing out your rotation in 2010? I see Billingsley, Kershaw, Kuroda. I see you trying to deal for Harang, but only will be able to if you continue to dump off more prospects and Sherrill because you can’t take on more salary. Your outfield depth is depleted with Pierre gone. You have some serious issues, my friend.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
farm
has alot of guys in High A and AA that are not household names today. I disagree that they have few prospects, they just aren’t major league ready yet. Withrow and Lambo are probably the only guys who could be ready in 2011.
The Dodgers had the same rotation issues at this time last offseason and came out fine. I see them picking from McDonald and Elbert for the 5th spot this year.
Manny is in his walk year, so I think he will be fine. I don’t think he forgot how to hit.
Re: Harang-that deal won’t happen until the price comes down. Probably won’t happen.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
"same problem last off season"
Exactly. That’s our point. The Dodgers have had these problems for a while but have been able to duct tape solutions together with their war chest. If the McCourt divorce really means thy warchest just went ‘poof’ then you’re in trouble. Serious trouble.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Dec 28, 2009 12:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
no
you gusy were talking about the Dodgers rotation issues last offseason, and we all know how that turned out
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Sheesh. Pay attention Raygu. That’s exactly what I’m saying. You had rotation issues last season but were able to fix them with the pocketbook. This season, that fix is in serious jeopardy.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
heellooooooooo
they didn’t exactly open the pocketbook to sign Randy Wolf last offseason!!! stay with me here.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
And they got a fluke year from him.
Congrats. Well-done. Good luck getting that again.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
well
they could get a better full season out of Billingsley and Elbert has the talent to replace Wolf.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 30, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Mmk.
But he needs to realign basically all of his metrics (K-Rate, BB-Rate, HR-Rate) for that to happen. And then you want a rookie to make up most of the value of 214 innings of 3.23 ERA pitching? Once again, good luck.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 30, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
No. But they brought in: Vargas, Mota, Estes, Weaver, Sherrill, and Garland. There might not have been a CC Sabathia in the mix, but each of those moves took cash and cash flexibility. All told they were somewhere north of $100M, a good $20M clear of anyone else in the division. If the McCourts refuse to sell the team and are in legitimate financial crisis, then the Dodgers may not only lose flexibility to spend upward, they may be forced to offload pieces to move the bottom line downward.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
You mean
Dee Gordon and the like? Yeah, they’re fine, but they’ve dealt off a ton of prospects for no reason, i.e. Carlos Santana, lest you need that name brought up again.
He’s 37… It’s gotta go eventually, especially for a guy who now can’t use his estrogen. His post-suspension numbers were worse than his pre-suspension numbers, and as much as nobody wants to flat-out say it, that’s pretty incriminating. 100 games next time, and he knows it.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Giving up
the uncertainty of the two Sch’s for the near-future certainty of Jackson and Kennedy has been debated ad nauseum elsewhere, and as such, there’s really no reason to mention it again here.
Unsurprisingly, given our favored team, we generally view the deal more positively than most observers, especially in light of the coming arbitration costs for many of our young starters.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
"starters"
meaning position players, in case that was unclear.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
haha
you’re a funny guy. Not bitter at all. LAD will be fine in 2010…..and I don’t see a Padres situation occuring. I do hope he is forced to sell the team tho.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Methinks
the lady doth protest too much….
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
one can only hope
someone like Broad or Cuban or maybe hedge fund manager John Paulson. He only made about $20 billion in 2008.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Paulson
ain’t a Dodgers fan, plus he’s too busy making that mad money. And he made his big $15 billion trade in 2007; 2008 was when he made another $5 billion on banks.
An early departure? What are the chances of that? If this was a movie, there wouldn't be an early departure.
so I got the year
wrong….you get the point. What does being a Dodgers fan have anything to do with buying them? I am pretty sure McCourt was a Red Sox fan before he bot the Dodgers. Buying major league teams is an ego trip for these owners.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
I just
don’t know if you know anything about Paulson. The dude was essentially raised in New York and has lived there all of his life. He vacations in the area. If we’re even assuming that he buys a team, wouldn’t it make more sense for him to buy the Mets, the owner of which has been rumored to be in financial trouble? Or for that matter the Red Sox, who are closer and also have an owner rumored to have financial troubles?
An early departure? What are the chances of that? If this was a movie, there wouldn't be an early departure.
possibly.
I was just throwing a name out there…..I also threw Cuban and Broad out there.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Out of
all of those suggestions, Eli Broad might be the most likely.
I think, however, you’re missing the point. The Dodgers don’t really need to worry on the long term about ownership because it is likely someone with deep pockets will come along and buy them. The issue would be more if the person was competent to go along with their free-spending ways.
An early departure? What are the chances of that? If this was a movie, there wouldn't be an early departure.
Indeed.
The Mets have had deep pockets for awhile now. How’s that working out for them?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 28, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
good point
and hopefully they value building the farm system more than McCourt does
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well,
it WOULD make it more impressive if he made $20 billion in 2008, than $15 billion in 2007, when the market was still great.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Yeah
’cause MLB has made it so clear that they want Cuban to run a franchise.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
why is that?
so they can protect the Yankees and Red Sox free spending owners? I don’t get it.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
It has little to do with money
And much more to do with Mark Cuban and his persona as an owner.
Plus, he doesn’t want the Dodgers.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
Cuban
his persona is worse than Steinbrenner’s back in the day? so what if he speaks his mind. free country.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, yeah
Because baseball, and the office of the commissioner, is pretty much identical now to how it was in the early 70s. And Cuban’s wasn’t shot down on his bid for the Cubs. And because Cuban hasn’t said he doesn’t want to buy the Dodgers.
All excellent reasons why Mark Cuban is going to buy the Dodgers and start spending millions because you said so, raygu.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
???
Kishi-do you feel you have to shoot down every single word of my posts? Oh wait, you didn’t shoot down Broad yet?
I could care less what you think about me throwing out a few names off the top of my head.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
You certainly felt the need to intrude
So sure, we’re entitled to respond, don’t you think? Especially when we believe you’re wrong.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
intrude?
do you only allow DBack fans to post on this site, Jim? who cares if I am wrong about a few names off the top of my head, good grief.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone is welcome, just don’t expect a welcome mat when you’ve go an “LA” tattooed to your backside.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Dec 28, 2009 12:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Precisely
What I meant.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
No, we DON'T only allow DBack fans to post on this site. You're still here, aren't you?
But foreign fans, understandably, get a much shorter leash than Dbacks fans, and you’re approaching troll territory, as you’ve done from time to time before.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 28, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmmm....
that was perhaps a bit more aggressive than I intended.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
You are welcome to post
But do not necessarily expect Arizona fans to see things the same way you do.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Dec 28, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Well, they may have just been off the top of your head, but you can’t go crying when someone points out the flaws in your suggestions.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Dec 28, 2009 1:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, yeah he can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ZdkyG3As4
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Dec 28, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, raygu, I didn’t think you’d be upset that Diamondbacks fans were posting on a Diamondbacks site, let alone disagreeing with you. This must be a very rough time for you.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
not at all
have fun seeking ways how the Dodgers will falter like they did in 2009.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Well,
since we’re hardcore fans of a team that just finished the year with 70 wins, last in the division, only 2 years removed from an NLCS berth, and we’re talking about the defending division champion 2 years running, I’d say that’s exactly what we’re doing. I’d also say that we’re well within our rights to do so.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
good luck next year
you guys went the entire year without putting a starting position player on the DL (and Manny don’t count because that was self injected, er self inflicted) so here’s to hopin you stay healthy again this year.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
C'mon, Dan.
Manny already told you — he has a female fertility problem.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 30, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
But not for a while
Probably can’t sell it until after the divorce is settled, and selling a MLB franchise is not a quick prospect….
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
Aww
what a sad story…not.
Key to the game: Score More
by pygalgia on Dec 26, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This
must be doubly exciting for you, eh?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 28, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Hard to get too excited
at least until they start a firesale. They don’t need to add players to be better than us this coming year.
An early departure? What are the chances of that? If this was a movie, there wouldn't be an early departure.
However, they do have to replace or re-sign
The ones they’ve lost to free agency, including
Pitchers
Randy Wolf – 214 IP at 122 ERA+
Jeff Weaver – 79 IP at 108 ERA+
Guillermo Mots – 65 IP at 115 ERA+
Position Players
Orlando Hudson – 631 PA at 109 OPS+
Juan Pierre – 425 PA at 105 OPS+
Those kind of replacements do not come cheaply.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Dec 26, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
That's completely true
but I’m not going to be doing much happy dancing if a Dodger decline means a Giants or Rockies rise instead of the Diamondbacks.
An early departure? What are the chances of that? If this was a movie, there wouldn't be an early departure.
That is
completely irrelevant to the point being made, though. Whether or not the Rockies or Giants ascend next year won’t depend on the Dodgers. It’ll depend on the Rockies or Giants.
Wouldn’t you agree that there’s absolutely nothing negative about a division rival declining?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
It's hard
to be all that happy if your own team sucks, at least in my opinion.
An early departure? What are the chances of that? If this was a movie, there wouldn't be an early departure.
Fair 'nuff.
But when the two-time defending division champion goes downhill, it doesn’t exactly hurt our chances.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
downhill?
how? they lost Wolf and Hudson who are replaceable. the core is intact…and Manny is coming off a bad year, and he is a FA after the 2010 season. You are assuming Kemp, Ethier, Martin, Loney, et al don’t improve or regress. Plus, Billingsley is better than his second half last year.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 30, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I think it’s too quick a conclusion to say the Dodgers are going downhill, but it’s a definite possibility. Wolf won’t be easy to replace at all. How many 200+ 120+ ERA+ pitchers do you expect to fall into your lap?
Manny may be in a contract year, but he’s also 37 and ostensibly off the performance enhancers. Kemp, Ethier, and Loney all are likely to improve, but I think there are real reasons to question whether or not Martin and Billingsley can return to their 2008 form.
Are the Dodgers headed downhill? Probably not. Do they look more vulnerable than last year? Yep.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
Saying that you want improvement for your young kids
Is a fair point, but look what that did for AZ after ‘07/’08. Their options to replace Hudson don’t exactly qualify him as “replaceable” for you, and you’re severely undervaluing Wolf’s ’09 for you.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 30, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not that my comment was in any way addressed to you,
but you lost Hudson and Wolf, there’s your downhill right there. You are NOT going to replace Wolf. Kemp, Ethier, Martin and Loney may well improve, but you’ve already got holes to fill. Manny’s getting old, and he can’t use the ‘roids anymore because if he gets caught with another masking agent, it’s a 100 game suspension. Even Ol’ Dreads-For-Brains isn’t THAT dumb.
Billlingsley’s second half was regression. Get used to it. And this is assuming that none of your other guys regress, either. Kershaw is damned good but I’d like to see him try replicating last year’s performance, he’s really got nowhere to go but down.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Wolf yes
but the other guys are easily replaceable.
Hudson> Dewitt
Pierre>Paul for now…could change by March though
Mota>Lindblom
Weaver>Elbert or McDonald
All would be pretty cheap.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Mmhmm
Hudson for DeWitt… We’ll see how that works. And Mota? Mmkay.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 AM EST up reply actions
true
not the perfect scenario, but Dewitt will get a shot to prove himself. His 2009 numbers cn’t be looked at as he was up and down 6 different times between LA and Albuquerque.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
There was a reason he was up and down, though.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
yeah
to back up Hudson and Blake who were battling injuries. It wasn’t like he started the season on the 25 man roster and was sent down.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 27, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
He started in AAA
Sorry, I forgot that that’s better in your bizarro-Baseball World.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 27, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
easy now
there’s a reason why Fantasy Sports is called just that: Fantasy…. IRL is just too much for some to handle.
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Dec 27, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
and....
that has what to do with what we are talking about here unnamed?? help me out here. The fact that I write for Faketeams doesn’t have a thing to do with the discussion here.
Is that all you have? taking shots about my writing for Faketeams?
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
It's hard
to take you seriously. It’s the off season right now, so I’ll work on coming up with better stuff once it matters.
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Dec 28, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Bizarro world
Bizarro world is thinking that the Dbacks actually have a chance in the NL West.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Moreso than the Dodgers
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Errrr..... yeah, false.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Hush!
My intentional naivety is my own problem, I’ll face it when Kennedy is 0-5, CY is around or below his rookie-year numbers, CoJack’s and Webb’s returns aren’t going as planned, Drew failed to rebound, and Abreu has drawn fewer walks than the pitcher’s spot… :-P But leave me to fantasize.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
You really don’t think the DBacks have “a shot” at the West? That’s ludicrous. Most of us wouldn’t dare to think we’re the favorites. But a “shot”? In a weak division? With Haren-Webb-Jackson? Heck yeah. You’d be a fool to think otherwise.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Dec 28, 2009 12:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
and hence my
previous two postings to you (or about you)
Foot in mouth disease, lucky for you it is not a serious problem
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Dec 28, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
What's the difference between the Dodgers
and the parking lot at 6th and Pico? At least when the lot develops cracks in it, they don’t have to wait for 14 million in deferred salary to resurface it.
Can I just add a Nelson-like “ah-hah”?
by Reynolds rapper on Dec 27, 2009 1:31 AM EST reply actions
Reserving judgement until the season begins
I don’t care how bad it seems for the Dodgers right now, though I am enjoying watching it. They will still have the chance to re-tool their team a week before Spring Training.
Last year they picked up Manny, Wolf and O-Dawg very late in the off-season.
There are still impact players available out there, especially pitchers, and I fear that if the Dodgers do get their act together in time, they will probably unwittingly score themselves some nice value deals.
+1
couldn’t agree more Counsellmember. The same holds true for alot of teams.
raygu
by Ray Guilfoyle on Dec 28, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
You found someone to love, congrats.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 28, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
lol
"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"
by unnamedDBacksfan on Dec 28, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
And yet you didn’t reserve judgment on the DBacks.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Dec 28, 2009 12:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sure. Heck, the Dodgers could win it with the roster they have now. Who knows? And who knows what real impact this divorce will have on their FA moves? The proof will be in the pudding. But I tell you one thing, any gap b/w the two clubs closed mighty fast over the past couple months.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Dec 28, 2009 1:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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