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Why baseball needs a salary cap - or, "How can we stop the Yankees?"

Baseball believes they have a good system, yet, when you look at the results each year, more often than not it's the 'haves' … those with the big payrolls. Those who have the large revenue streams are the ones who go to the postseason. Now they'll hang their hat on the fact that once in a while some small-market team comes through. Most of the same small-market teams are on the bottom of their divisions, year in and year out, which in itself says something about the system.
   -- Jerry Colangelo

The triumph of evil, in the shape of the New York Yankees 27th World Series victory, once again has discussion surfacing on payroll discrepancy and whether baseball needs a salary cap in some form [and I truly recommend you read Joe Posnanski's blog linked above]. The Yankees spent over $200 million, which is $52m more than the second-placed Red Sox, a gap larger than the entire amount spent by the Marlins, Padres or Pirates on their playing staffs. Accusations that the Steinbrenners "bought" a World Series inevitably follow. However, critics of a salary cap point out the wide spread of teams to have won the title in the past few years, with the great majority of franchises having at least tasted playoff baseball.

After the jump, let's delve into baseball finances and parity, to see if we can find a way to prevent the Yankees from winning the World Series forever...

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Major-league baseball is the only major professional sport in North America without some form of salary cap in place - the NHL was the most recent to add one, and it's contention over that issue which cost the sport the entire 2004-05 season. The exact amount varies, from $2.3 million per team for Major League Soccer, to $128 million in the NFL. It's important to note that most sports also have a salary floor, which teams must pay out in salary: for the NFL this year, it's a little above $112m, so the range of discretionary spending for owners is not much more than 10%.

Baseball's current contributions towards financial parity are the luxury tax and revenue sharing. The luxury tax is a surcharge paid by teams over a certain salary amount, using the average annual values of contracts for players on 40-man rosters, plus any benefits. In 2009, the limit is $162m, so the Yankees will be the only team due to pay anything to the commissioner's office. The rate charged depends on the frequency of the team going over the threshold. At the end of last year, the Yankees paid a 40% surcharge, costing them $26.9m, while the Tigers were only assessed at a 22.5% rate as 2008 was their "first offense".

In all honesty, you might rename it the Steinbrenner Tax: his team have paid a total of $148.5m over the six season it has been in effect (not including this year), more than 90% of the total. The Red Sox are next, down at $13.9m, while the Tigers and Angels are the only others to have hit the threshold, and hardly register on the financial radar, at $1.3m and $927K respectively.Then there's revenue sharing: the calculations involved are somewhat arcane, so I'll refer the interested reader to this article. While detailed numbers for this aspect are not publicly available, it was reportedly responsible for about $450 million being transferred from the richer teams to the poorer this year.

But is it enough or does baseball need an adjustment to improve parity? I'm unimpressed by the argument that the past nine World Series have been won by eight different teams. Not when the rankings by salary of the winner, since the Diamondbacks arrived in 1998, are: 2, 1, 1, 8, 15, 25, 2, 13, 11, 2, 12, 1. Half the time, it's gone to the team with the biggest or second-biggest payroll: only once to those in the lower-half. More generally, the chart below plots games won against salary, compared to league average for that season - a team paying out more will have a value on the bottom above one, less than average is below one.

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The eight highest ratios - from 1.87 to 2.85 (in 2005) - all belong to the Yankees. The next highest was 1.84 by the 2004 Red Sox, who won the World Series that year, of course. Perhaps making things clearer, here are the percentage chances of a team posting various records, based on the amount they spend, along with the average number of wins for teams in that salary bracket.

Salary <= 70 71-80 81-90 91+ Avg
< 0.50 (20 teams) 45% 35% 15% 5% 73.9
0.50-0.75 (70) 39% 26% 23% 13% 75.8
0.76-1.00 (75)
19% 33% 36% 12% 79.4
1.01-1.25 (62)
15% 32% 27% 26% 82.1
1.26-1.50 (48)
2% 15% 40% 44% 87.9
1.51+ (25)
8% 8% 32% 52% 89.6
Avg. Salary
0.77
0.90
1.05
1.27
  • Only three of 63 teams who outspent MLB average by more than 25%, ended up with 70 or less wins - the 2008 Mariners (131%, 61 wins), plus the 2003 (165%, 66 wins) and 2009 Mets (169%, 70 wins).
  • Conversely, the only team to have reached above ninety victories while spending less than half the average amount were last year's Rays (49%, 97 wins).
  • Teams with a winning record spent 38% more than those at or below .500 - 115.3% of average, compared to 83.6%.
  • In 2009, that 115.3% is a payroll of $102 million. The nine teams this year to crack nine digits averaged 88.4 wins, with the Mets and Astros having losing records.  

However, a single year is a snapshot. To quote Posnanski, baseball "tends to equalize teams. That helps blur the dominance of the Yankees. If the New England Patriots were allowed to spend $50 million more on players than any other team, they would go 15-1 or 16-0 every single year. And people would not stand for it. But in baseball, a great and dominant team might only win 95 out of 160, and it doesn’t seem so bad." There's also the nature of the post-season: "a crap-shoot," according to Bobby Cox, or to quote the ever-quotable Billy Beane, "My job is to get us to the playoffs. What happens after that is f_cking luck." This hides the fact that since their last World Series victory in 2000, the Yankees have had the best record in the AL four times, and made the playoffs every year but one.

So the picture gets even starker when you look at the totals over the entire decade. The graph below shows a team's average number of wins from 2000-09, against their expenditure over that time, compared to the MLB mean. The statistical correlation between payroll and wins jumps up from 0.43 to 0.67 [where zero would be no connection, and one would be a perfect match]. Even with the smaller number of data points, the association is obvious. While a team can hope to buck the odds and win for a season or two without spending money, if they want to do so on a regular basis, they simply have to shell out.

Salary2_medium

No prizes for guessing what team the spot in the far top-right of the graph represents, but if you need a clue, dress it in pin-stripes. The only teams to have managed 82 wins or better over the past decade,  while spending below average, are the Twins (66%, 86.3 wins) and Athletics (70%, 89.0 wins). So it is possible to do well on a small-budget. It just isn't easy - especially in a consistent manner, rather than just for a season or two. The reason is obvious: free-agency, which means your best players will inevitably gravitate towards better contracts elsewhere. The Diamondbacks, incidentally, are almost in the middle of both axes: we've spent 102% of MLB average, and have won 80.5 games per season.

Another factor is that it's not just the size of the Yankees' contracts that is intimidating, it's the length of them. Jon Marthaler reports that there are only two teams in baseball which currently have a significant amount of cash (more than $30m) committed for the 2013 season. One is the Blue Jays, or as Jon calls it, "the Land of Bad Future-Inflated Over-Long Contracts." However, far beyond even them are the Yankees, who are already paying over $92.2 million in 2013 to just four players - A-Rod, Sabathia, Teixeira and Burnett. That quartet alone will earn more than the entire payroll this season of eighteen major-league teams. The same goes for the 2012 season, with the Yankees already $40m ahead of the rest of the league.

One important thing is that competitive parity is not just about stopping the Yankees from steam-rolling their way to the playoffs, season after season. We also need to take a look at the bottom of the chart, because a salary floor is equally as important as a salary cap. This is where we find our expansion siblings in Tampa: for every dollar spent in the Bronx, they had less than a quarter to work with. Put another way, the Yankees spent $10m more on payroll in the past two years than the Rays did in the entire decade. Last year aside, the results have been dismal, with the team averaging below seventy victories per year. It does put them above Pittsburgh (68.1 wins) and Kansas City (67.2) - neither team spending even 65% of average.

That's why it's important to have a salary floor as well. Too often, owners basically grab the income from revenue sharing and pocket it, rather than investing it back into the team, as was the intent of the program. The Marlins reportedly take more in revenue-sharing than they spend on MLB player payroll. Of course, it's impossible to tell, since baseball franchises, being privately-held corporations, are under no obligation to open their books - even as some of them receive tens of millions of dollars in income from the commissioner's office every year. Accountability here appears to be strictly on the honor system: and we all know how well this works in big business.

The question of what, exactly, needs to be done is complex. An increase in the luxury tax, making it a good deal more punitive, since the Yankees apparently regard it as the cost of doing business, in the style to which they have become accustomed. An adjustment to revenue sharing, in particular, transparency to ensure that money intended to improve a team's on-field situation, is used for exactly that. However, the first step with any problem is to admit it exists. Bud instead trumpets, "We have certainly more parity than ever before," and compares baseball to the NFL, where they have full revenue sharing and a salary cap: "What about Oakland? What about Jacksonville? You could go on and on. What about Detroit, who hasn't made a playoff now in I don't know how many years?"

The difference really shouldn't need to be pointed out. In the NFL, it's smart, well-run teams win out, not those with the most money. If an NFL team keeps being stupid, and making bad decisions, they will keep right on losing. This is the American way. Those who decry the notion of a salary cap as "commie" are missing the boat: the US, and US sports, should be a meritocracy, with the best-managed and best-run teams rising to the top each year, rather than simply those which squat in the largest, most profitable markets and so possess the deepest wallets. Wait till Brandon Webb, Justin Upton and Mark Reynolds are all playing for the Yankees in 2015 or so...

Selig also said in September: "The Brewers are not a one-year wonder. Tampa Bay is not a one-year wonder. I still think we have enormous competitive balance." The Brewers ended 2009 with a losing record, while the Rays barely scraped above .500, finishing nineteen games back and in third-place. That's where the problem of baseball's lack of competitive balance starts: the refusal of the commissioner, who can do anything he wants "in the best interests of the game," to admit that the current system is badly-broken. And if it's ever to be corrected, that's where any solution will have to start too. I'll finish with a final quote from Posnanski:

That team that spent $50 million more than any other team, that team with three sure Hall of Famers and as many as four others, that team that bought Milwaukee’s best pitcher and Anaheim’s best hitter and Toronto’s No. 2 starter and Boston’s favorite Idiot and the most expensive player in the history of baseball and so on, that team will win the World Series, and spray champagne on each other, and they will tell you that they won because they came together as a group and kept pulling themselves off the ground and didn’t listen to the doubters.

And then, if you are a not a Yankees fan, you will want to throw up. If you are not a Yankees fan, you are left hoping that next year the randomness of a short playoff series will get the Yankees and allow some other team to win so we can celebrate the hope of Opening Day. And that’s baseball.

To which all I can add is: yes, that's baseball. But it doesn't have to be.

[The salary and wins spreadsheet used in the course of writing this article is available as a Google document here.]

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So this is where all the Al Qaeda have been hiding! Who needs to invade Afghanistan!

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8

by njjohn on Dec 11, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Issues

It’s hard to compare any sport league against another when they’re all vastly different. The NBA’s salary cap is not similar to NFL (which, by the way, is about to enter an uncapped year, which might prove or debunk the parity theory), which is not similar to MLS. In MLS, every team is allowed to sign a player outside of the cap, which allows teams to pursue a big name (and salary). Should baseball follow this system? Should it have the NBA’s soft cap that allows teams to exceed the cap as long as they pay the premium?

And then there’s the problem that each league has different roster requirements. Can we really model baseball after football, which requires 30 more players? Or the NBA, which requires less?

Now, we could try to use an analogy of fast food franchises here, but it wouldn’t be the best comparison. Sure, a successful McDonald’s would be frustrated to subsidize a failing McDonald’s, but on the other hand the corporate center of McDonald’s provides leadership and guidance to be successful. So is the revenue gap because the Yankees are so much better at making money, or is it because the lower teams are so much worse at it? Is there something that MLB should be doing to change this?

And as much as people bring out the overused meme of “the Yankees play unfairly,” the truth is that the owners for the most part are fine with the current system and Selig simply because he’s led them to the promised land. Attendance has exploded (taking away a recession influenced 2009), every merchandise category sales has gone up except trading cards, and there’s been a building boom the like we may never see again. So where in this is there motivation to bring about a salary cap?

Can somebody please throw away this telephone?

by soco on Dec 12, 2009 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

I actually

agree with Colin Cowherd on this point : baseball rewards the SMART organizations, not the big spenders. The richest organization managed to go 8 years between championships. If it was truly a problem you’d see: Yankees, Yankees, Yankees, Yankees on the list of championships. What a large payroll does do is that it increases the margin for error. However, for all of their money Yankee management is about one of the stupidest front offices around. Getting Granderson was a stupid move because there were 3 more valuable outfielders available in free agency (Guerrero, Holliday and Bay—moving Cabrera to CF).

Small market teams like the DBacks have a chance, but the margin for error is slimmer.

by Reynolds rapper on Dec 12, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Vladimir Guerrero

Is not more valueable than Curtis Granderson. And Granderon is cheaper than either of those guys will be.

"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."

by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 12, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Again,

my point here is that the Yanks don’t have to worry about money and I think that Granderson is both overrated and declining. I wasn’t even much of a fan in ’06 which was considered one of his premium seasons. That whole trade was pretty “meh” on all sides as far as I was concerned because on all sides of the trade there was less risk staying with what they had than with making a deal.

As far as the virtue of the 3 outfielders, I think that proven power (especially Holliday and Bay—to a lesser extent a fading Guerrero) is probably easier for the Yanks to get on the open market. Speed and contact hitting take scouting, which is a Yankee weakness. They already have Cabrera, Cano and Jeter. Bat one of those guys leadoff and play for the 3 run homerun in that wind tunnel known as Yankee Stadium III.

Part of an effective plan is sticking with it. In the hot stove league teams often try to “win the press conference”.

by Reynolds rapper on Dec 12, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Well then

That just depends on your thoughts on Granderson. Granderson’s got the persona to fit in NY. So I think it could work, since his left-handed power will flourish in that tee-ball park in NY.

"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."

by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 13, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Punish competetiveness?

Some owners are more dedicated to winning than others. If it means spending a lot of money, so be it. If they have more resources, e.g., a larger population pool to draw from, well that makes it a greater challenge for the others, and the sweeter the victory when they do prevail.

The talent the D’Backs have given away over the past few years is astonishing. They have nobody to blame but themselves for finishing second or third division.

by NASCARbernet on Dec 12, 2009 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

A more appropriate organization to tag

is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Trading all 8 starters in the last year is ridiculous. They aren’t adhering to any sort of competitive plan at all.

by Reynolds rapper on Dec 12, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone and their moms have to be imcompetent

to well wish the evilest empire. If they choose not to raise a luxary tax to at least 100% our sport has become a joke. I love baseball so much and the only way you can discourage big spenders is to raise the tax on them. Hell make it 200%. But the sad thing is, is that it wouldn’t fix things. The Yanks not only have control over their team but their Yankee broadcast team YES is believe just as much. Selig needs to resign which apparently his intentions are within a few years but it needs to be capped at 180 mil or lower. Fans deserve the right to expect their team to blossom, we all sadly know if this is not the case Haren Webb Upton Reynolds and Drew are gonna be goners and we just have to wait for a perfect draft class at the right year to get us to the WS again. In some ways I applaud Colangelo to do what he did, after all he basically bought us one too, but that shouldn’t be what baseball is about. Screw the old teams who feel entitled to win championships, there’s more teams now. Make the system fair and the saddest part is if MLB was to increase he luxory tax to !00% the sport wouldn’t change. I can’t wait till Selig is out of office and a smart baseball fan is in. That being said I will refute the old baseball laws where onces a player for a team always a player, that was lame but something needs to be done sadly I know my lonely post won’t change a thing. As smart as organizations can be it’s sad to see the Steeler’s have been the best with what 7 titles in so many years and I didn’t even bother with the NBA because I view basketball differently, but if you just type in “how many championships have the” you’ve got you’re answer. That being said baseball is by far my favorite sport, but I don’t agree with the politics of it.

by dbacksbj on Dec 12, 2009 6:19 AM EST reply actions  

I say keep things the way they are so I can keep laughing at the Yankees when they spend billions of dollars and don’t make the playoffs.

"Have a take and do not suck or you will get run." - Jim Rome

by jonny-yuma on Dec 12, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

That was funny

You know, that one time that happened.

WHO KNOWS WHAT EVIL LURKS IN THE HEART OF MEN? The Death of Rats looked up from the feast of potato. SQUEAK, he said. Death waved a hand dismissively. WELL, YES, OBVIOUSLY ME, he said. I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE.

by luckycc on Dec 12, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

good point, should have said when they don’t win the ws – i’ll take anything for a laugh at the yanks, though.

"Have a take and do not suck or you will get run." - Jim Rome

by jonny-yuma on Dec 14, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The dilemma

is that the high spending Yankees are good for the financial health of MLB and antithetical to the competitive health of the sport. There’s no salary cap because not enough owners insist on it, and that’s because the luxury tax and revenue sharing were negotiated financial settlements to appease owners. Hush money. It has little to do with competitive balance. Revenue sharing keeps enough owners financially satisfied so that they dont push for more competitive measures like caps.

I dont think the competitive problem is that the Yankees spend the most money, per se, or win all the time – but both in concert, over time, could erode public confidence in the game. My idea is for each World Series winner to sustain a mandatory 20% payroll cut the following year. If the Yankees win with $200M, they go to spring training with $160. If the Dbacks win with $90M, they go back to $72. Ouch, I know, but fans are so giddy after winning a World Series, who really cares? It’s the sporting thing to do, doesnt inherently penalize the wealthiest franchise and wont dramatically alter the financial windfalls so dear to the barons of the game.

If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09

by Diamondhacks on Dec 12, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

For the lower-market teams,

That is a horrible idea. I’m sorry, but knowing that your team would have to cut $12M in salary after winning a world series is stupid. It would discourage a team from winning the world series. They would just want to get there then lose, as they’d maximize their earning potential because they could maintain their payroll and keep their team attractive to their fans the following season. For your arguing about Brandon Webb conspiracy theories, how does this not instantly make you think of how teams could be crafty to avoid this?

"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."

by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 13, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It would discourage a team from winning the world series

Really? I doubt it would have any chilling effect at all. Besides bragging rights, there’s established financial incentive (attendance, merch., etc) for teams to win, once they get into the World Series, and cash incentives for players as well. In addition, the winning franchise would realize the 20% windfall that was formerly earmarked for payroll. It’s not a tax. That money would go directly into the owner’s pocket.

The team that wins the World Series each year is, by definition, singular and quite good. Cutting their player costs is designed to handicap them somewhat the following year, but I doubt it would relegate WS champs into losers their fans would disown either. For example, the Yankees could win consecutive World Series under this setup and still spend as much as anyone on players. And what smaller market team would conceivably forego a coveted WS victory simply to sustain… the following season’s payroll? What kind of incentive is that?

The union wouldnt like it, and the Yankees probably wouldnt either, although there would be years the plan would actually enhance the Yankees chances. It’s a forward thinking plan that wouldnt gain much traction now, since the NYY have only won one Series since 2001. But they’ve made intelligent acquisitions lately and have increased their marginal spend (over other teams). If the NYY reel off two or three titles with a monumental payroll, I’d expect support for more draconian payroll restrictions to gain favor.

If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09

by Diamondhacks on Dec 13, 2009 4:18 AM EST up reply actions  

There are also financial boosts for keeping a core of fan-loved players

And if you have to pay those World-Series-bonuses, doesn’t that discourage teams even more? The Yankees are the exception, because they could still do whatever they want. Them and Boston. They’d trade World Series wins, dropping and re-increasing their payrolls as they must. Adding any dis-incentive to winning is a horrible idea in any competitive sport, because it discourages just that, competition. If you’re going to have a restriction, it should be regardless of your performance

Can’t you just imagine this situation? A team led by a young star in the final year of arbitration making a measly $10M is in the World Series, and the series has come down to Game 7. The young star is set to earn a record-breaking contract, along the lines of A-Rod, a jump in salary of around $15M. But this is a small-market team, and also only has about $15M coming off of its books. So, if you’re that team, what do you do? Do you win and sacrifice your young star to free agency? Or do you throw the game away for the chance to win multiple championships in the future with the promise of this player, and the potential for a new, bigger stadium, higher payroll, more income, and general prosperity that the promise of the team’s success under this player could provide? It’s a hypothetical situation, but isn’t TOO far-fetched, and shows a glaring inherent flaw in the system.

"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."

by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 13, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Adding any dis-incentive to winning is a horrible idea in any competitive sport, because it discourages just that, competition.

The opposite is true. I think maybe we’re confusing free market economic competition with the concept of athletic competition. All the sports already incorporate disincentives which stimulate rather than discourage athletic competition, like awarding draft position inverse to performance. Spending redistributions like caps, lux tax and revenue ‘sharing’ are thinly disguised cousins that indirectly impact winning on the field as well. The application of disincentives on and around performance is nothing new.

There are also financial boosts for keeping a core of fan-loved players.

Sure, but not on par with winning a World Series. To advance both your hypothetical and mine, the touchiest situation I could currently envison might be Mauer in Minnesota. Lean, low salary, competitive club that might have to sell the enormously popular catcher to meet the 20% guideline.

First, the Twins will probaby never win the WS with him anyway. Second, they might be able to unload Morneau instead. Third, maybe a progressive % scale would be more sensible than a flat 20% – where the Yankees get dinged 20% for each WS win, the Twins 8-10%, and the Marlins roughly seven dollars and change.
  
My aim is to prevent any team with the highest payroll from running off with a number of consecutive titles, because that combination (inordinate money and inordinate wins over time), erodes national confidence in the sport (ie competition). Posnanski details how MLB has rather deftly minimized this erosion, but warns it could get worse pretty fast. For years, many of us have developed the feeling that watching the Yankees in the AL regular season is akin to watching fake wrestling. If that feeling migrates to the playoffs on the arms of Sabathia, Burnett, for example, then I believe it may be in the interests of the sport to respond in some way.

If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09

by Diamondhacks on Dec 13, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Disincentives like a reverse-draft order

Are FAR different than what you’re trying to institute. The reverse-draft order provides a sense of irrelevance for being a champion instead of coming in second-place in a championship series. What’s the difference between a 29th and 30th pick in baseball, a 31st and 32nd pick in football, and continued down the line in sports? In all cases, almost nothing in comparison to the winning of a championship. Heck, the biggest differences in a slot or two are at the other end of the spectrum where there occasionally is one one-of-a-kind talent for the #1 pick, which results in the sad situation of teams purposefully tanking already-meaningless games in order to attain a higher pick, but the teams that the fans have the biggest interest in are the higher-echelon teams, as they provide the highest level of competition, and the American fan is infatuated with the concept of “watching the best.”

But in your situation, winning the championship can result in your team having to dismantle key pieces of its roster instead of keeping it intact for a longer-term success by purposefully coming in second-place. Teams what build their teams the right way, from the ground up, would be heavily punished for their success. You don’t need to imagine a team currently in existence to use as an example as long as it’s feasible that this situation could arise, and it absolutely is. It would be like the Marlins back in ‘03, but if they actually intended to keep that roster together. :-P With your rule in place, they wouldn’t have been able to even if they had wanted to, regardless of the cut (because it would probably be more than seven dollars…). You’re on the right track with the progressive percentage scale, but it seems to be lacking a few key concepts.

For example: what happens the year after the year after they win the WS? Does the restriction suddenly melt away if the team doesn’t win again? Or do you continue to restrict the team’s budget, despite the likelihood that the team has a huge amount of excess revenue to spend on making its team better. Then, when the restriction melts, what prevents the team from having an absolutely gigantic spike in payroll, leading to them dominating the free-agent market and again taking the playoffs by storm? They then have their payroll cut, remove some excess baggage, continue to stockpile revenue from their championship glory and the main pieces they have kept around to make another run in a few years with a new cast of marquee free agents. You would have cycles of a select few teams winning championships, not parity.

"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."

by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 14, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Good job

I think you’ve exposed a contradiction between my stated intent and the parameters of my proposal, which were too broad. I’m not trying to ’acheive" metaphysical parity or eliminate market advantage, and I certainly dont want to discourage well run, less endowed teams. I just want to prevent any team with a large and sustainable payroll advantage from reeling off several championships.

When the Yankees win, it can easily be dismissed as a product of money or entrenched advantages, rather than the fruits of organizational superiority or virtue. That’s certainly not a new feeling, but I think what Posnanski may be hinting at is that it may become more pronounced quite soon, to the detriment of both the sport and overall enterprise.

Anyway, calling for a flat 20% reduction from all WS winners doesnt serve my intent, and creates some of the issues you raised. I was too broad because I didnt want it to come across as a capricious anti-Yankee measure. But it is certainly aimed at the Yankees (or any team exploiting a large and sustainable revenue advantage) and not at the balance of MLB clubs.

In today’s environment, I dont think a team spending near $200M would purposely lose the WS if it meant entering spring training with “only” $160M. I think they’d try to win, realizing that a) getting into the series is tough enough, and that winning it confers significant tangible and intangible rewards, and b) that $160M shouldnt jeopardize their chances too much the following year.

Benefits? Well, it probably does diminish their chances somewhat the following year, nudging rather than ‘acheiving’ parity, although even that’s hard to quantify. But if the team won back to back, losing 40%+ off their payroll, then all sorts of interesting dynamics take place. The defending champion Yankees, at least for a year, become kind of an underdog. Pressure migrates to the Red Sox, and may extend further than that, to places like Toronto. The old excuses are gone, or fading.

This proposal doesnt take a dime from anyone – at least not directly. It just says that if you have ridiculous revenue streams, and famously invest in your product, that for the good of the sport, we’re not gonna let you dominate it every single year by purchasing an All Star team. If you still want to dominate every year, that’s fine. You just need to make some practical tradeoffs…like everybody else.

If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09

by Diamondhacks on Dec 14, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Another flaw

in my Yankees example is that even if “the organization” is incented to win the WS, it’s conceivable that a mandatory payroll reduction might incent an individual player to throw the WS, to improve his chances of remaining with the club long term.

A little counterintuitive, increasing one’s stability and tenure by playing lousy in the Series, but too conceivable for comfort.

I withdraw my hasty proposal.

If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09

by Diamondhacks on Dec 14, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose it comes down to the question of whether or not you think every team is owed an equal chance to win a title. Most sports have said ‘yes’: each team deserves an equal chance.

Perhaps it is foolish of me to think this way, but I don’t think that every team deserves an equal chance. Why should the Diamondbacks and our small and half-hearted fan base have the same chance to win the championship as the Cardinals, Red Sox, or Yankees, whose fanatical base of supporters enables them to bring in better players and secure their own players to longer contracts? And while the big boys on the block have a distinct advantage, the little guys do have the numbers on their side.

The Diamondbacks may have won only one championship in their history, but since 1998 one of ‘us’ has won the championship 6 times, and an enormous longshot has even pulled it off once.

I’m not suggesting no changes should be made to the current policies, but I am saying that I wouldn’t want MLB to institute a salary cap. I love the distinct flavor it gives baseball among the professional sports. In no other sport are there true Goliaths. In no other sport do teams more intentionally stockpile and prepare for one narrow window. No sport has as expansive and important a minor league component.

Viva capitalism!

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8

by njjohn on Dec 12, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with the part about Goliath

provided other teams are equipped with slingshots. It doesnt need to be an equal chance. Here’s your only implication I disagree with:

Why should the Diamondbacks and our small and half-hearted fan base have the same chance to win the championship as the Cardinals, Red Sox, or Yankees, whose fanatical base of supporters enables them to bring in better players and secure their own players to longer contracts?

For the most part, it’s not fanatical bases that enable competitive success. It’s owners exploiting market advantage who drive and sustain success, which in turn breeds fanatical bases.

My favorite example of this is the Yankees in the late 1960s and early 70’s, just before Steinbrenner. They sucked. Year after year, they were about as bad as the Orioles or Reds are now. I remember going to weeknight games at the old stadium, before the remodel. The place held 70000, it was the most tradition rich team in sports, in the most storied venue, in the greatest city in the world with supposedly the best fans – and the Yankees couldnt draw ten thousand people on a Tuesday nite to save their lives. Not unless the Red Sox were in town. Then they might get fifteen or 20.

That’s what happens when you suck year after year, even in New York. Steinbrenner came in, won consistently, and rebuilt the fan base. He didnt win because of a fanatical base. He won because he invested and exploited market advantages in the nation’s largest metropolis, and famously ‘knowledgeable’ NY fans were knowledgeable enough to follow a winner. It’s easy to be confident and vocal and supportive and loyal and buy jerseys and season tickets when the owner fields an All Star team each spring for thirty years.

My point is that kind of loyalty is more often tied to sustained winning than it is to a particular team or city. When Phoenix baseball fans had similar confidence in ownership (rightly or wrongly), the Dbacks outdrew the Mets every single year, and consistently outdrew the Red Sox and Cubs too. Fan bases arent interchangeable, certainly. Some markets are larger, wealthier, have more of a history, etc. But I think it’s a bit of a circular argument to assume fans of successful teams are somehow more “deserving”, or motivated in fundamentally different ways. All fans want to win. (Well, Cub fans primarily want to drink, but everyone else wants to compete, identify with their team, and win).

Imagine living in Kansas City, and buying Royals season tickets year after year. You have to really love baseball to do that, in a way most Yankee “fans” could never understand. I agree we dont need to handicap a system where KC’s chances are equal to the Yankees, but I cant support the notion that Yankee or Red Sox fans are somehow “more deserving” than those people.

If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09

by Diamondhacks on Dec 13, 2009 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Owners v. fans

Sure, the owners may have ‘exploited’ the market advantages to bring about fanatical bases, but let’s not forget that ‘exploitation’ mean shelling out several multiples of the average club to do so. I may have Steinbrenner for year-in-year-out giving the Yankees a decisive competitive advantage over the Rays, but he, after all, is paying big time for that advantage. And also making a huge gamble that success will follow the dollars (which, in the case of the ‘other’ NYC team has not been the case).

As a Kansas City fan by birth (both of my parents are KC natives), I don’t have to imagine the pain of cheering for a pathetic, mismanaged team year after year. I have. And until 1998 (God bless Jerry Colangelo), they were the only team I cheered for. But KC is the prime example not of why capless baseball doesn’t work, but why poorly run organizations fail. The Royals spend right around where the D-Backs do, actually — right in the middle of the pack. And the town has proven (see the 1980s) that they will support a winning franchise. But the reason the Royals lose year after year has little to do with the salary cap. In fact, it has more to do with the fact that they often bring in overpriced players just to make it appear that they’re trying to win instead of using the Marlins’ more strategic strategy of aiming at windows of opportunity. Proof? Look at their recent move of losing John Buck and replacing him with the more expensive, older and offensively worthless Jason Kendall. Or how about just listing some of their free agent signings in the past 5 years: Juan Gonzalez, Benito Santiago, Doug Mientkiewicz, Octavio Dotel, Joe Mays, Scott Elarton, Gil Meche, and Jose Guillen. Those names represent tens of millions of dollars of wasted money.

To your point re: Phoenix fan loyalty and outdrawing the Mets/BoSox and Cubs. Three points to this: 1) it’s hard to figure out how much of this was winning and how much of this was having a new team with a new stadium; 2) it’s also hard to figure how many of those who came along for the ride would have gotten baseball in their blood and how many would have tired of the new experience; 3) As has been debated ad nosium over the years at the Pit, even in the midst of such ‘success’ the team was underwater financially, so the sustainability of the model (even if they continued winning forever) is questionable.

Cheers.

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8

by njjohn on Dec 13, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

correction

“I may have Steinbrenner " = “I may hate Steinbrenner”

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8

by njjohn on Dec 14, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, that question is tough to answer.

On the one hand, I think baseball needs a salary cap, but on the other hand, I also hate freedom and am a card-carrying member of al-Qaida.

Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.

by DbacksSkins on Dec 14, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

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