Rule 5 draft info
Arizona lost Ambriz (to the Twins Indians) and picked Zack Kroenke (from the Yankees), a lefty AAA reliever with good stuff and command problems.
It seems like an insignificant move, but like the Scherzer/Jackson deal it's very much ERA driven.
Ambriz started the year in AA and pitched well enough to be promoted after 5 starts. In AAA, he had a FIP of 3.8, but a ridiculous BABIP (.372) and strand rate raised his ERA to 5.57.
Kroenke, meanwhile, had a FIP of 3.64 but a sparkling 1.99 ERA thanks to a .251 BABIP.
I'm not complaining here, it seems we have a lot of starters similar to Ambriz in our system, and Kroenke may be a better fit, but it kinda sucks to root for a team that can't differentiate pitcher talent from BABIP.
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ty for tracking this paqs
I wonder if they’re gonna take another guy in round 2 since they optioned two guys off fo the 40 man a couple of days ago.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
Hah, IHSB! I totally called Ambriz getting taken!
But gloating aside, Kroenke gives us another leftie option out of the pen… I need to see his splits to tell if he’ll strictly be a loogy.
"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair
by C. Wesley Baier on Dec 10, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions
Well, looking at him on minorleaguesplits.com
There’s not all that much difference between his line against LHP vs RHP. So maybe he can be effective against both? I assume he’ll be used as a reliever, probably a loogy at first.
"When fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross" - Upton Sinclair
by C. Wesley Baier on Dec 10, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
my first instict when I saw this was
LOOGY
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
Precisely
And it’s exactly what we need now. Nicely done.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 10, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fun Kroenke trivia. . . .
Kroenke has never batted in the minors but HAS managed to score a run: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=kroenk001zac so obviously he is a fantastic baserunner!
I love stupid trivia like that.
Then you'll love this
Major-league players who scored one or more runs, with zero career PAs
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Dec 10, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
33 runs? The guy was just a professional pinch-runner!
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
And world indoor record holder in some of the sprints
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Dec 10, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
And got a World Series ring for his trouble
Not too shabby.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
Yeeeessssssssssssss!!!!!
We swipe Zack Greinke!!!! This is much more significant than most of you realize.
My AL sources report he’s got FIP, VORP and and a mean streak. He should fit in very nicely in Sedona Red, thank you very much. And Josh got him for nothing.
Outstanding.
If the FO is the focus of anything, something is seriously wrong with the picture ! - unnamedDBacksfan 2/20/09
Well,
never let anyone say you didn’t ever commend this FO for anything.
How is Tiger Woods like a baby seal?
They both get clubbed by Scandinavians.
Question. . .
I haven’t seen anything about the D’Backs acquiring Zack Greinke. Can somebody clarify this for me?
by NASCARbernet on Dec 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Zack Greinke/Zack Kroenke
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
I thought there might be some sarcasm involved
But I thought I should check first. Thanks.
by NASCARbernet on Dec 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Sarcasm?
Diamondhacks? NEVER!
How is Tiger Woods like a baby seal?
They both get clubbed by Scandinavians.
by DbacksSkins on Dec 10, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Still,
Scherzer AND Sxhlereth for Greinke might have been a good idea. We could have sweetened the pot a bit and thrown in an Eric for good measure. . .
by NASCARbernet on Dec 10, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt it
The Royals probably would have been too worried about getting Byrned in that trade.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
Ugh....
How is Tiger Woods like a baby seal?
They both get clubbed by Scandinavians.
by DbacksSkins on Dec 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Booooooooooooooooooooo!
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 11, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon, man
Just because it’s the off-season doesn’t mean I can sit around and let my skills get rusty.
"I can just see it: Post 'Intervention? Why would I need an intervention?' And then he'd +1 himself."
I understand
But I swear, the next person that uses an Eric Byrnes “Getting Byrned” pun ought to be euthanized (except not). At least sterilized.
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 11, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
does that mean
we can’t use “Byrned at the stake” too?
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
Mehhhhhhhh...
"I've had Bailey's out of a shoe, though."
by Dan Strittmatter on Dec 11, 2009 4:05 AM EST up reply actions
@paqs
You may be right that the FO doesn’t appropriately consider peripherals in their evaluations, but even so, we just picked up a guy whose FIP is .15 better than the guy we lost. Can’t complain there, right?
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
I think
paqs would have preferred to protect Ambriz AND draft Kroenke.
I can’t say I’d disagree.
How is Tiger Woods like a baby seal?
They both get clubbed by Scandinavians.
The difference
One’s a reliever and the other a starter. It doesn’t really matter since Ambriz is probably going to the pen when (if) he makes the majors.
Indians
Ambriz went to the Indians not the Twins. Sheesh! Nobody caught that?
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