File this away under "not surprising at all"
by njjohn on Nov 5, 2009 10:22 PM EST
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PrintFavorite boyband sensation and pitching superstar for the Giants, Tim Lincecum, has been cited for marjuana possession.
SEATTLE (AP)—San Francisco Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum is facing misdemeanor marijuana charges following a traffic stop in his home state.
Washington State Patrol spokesman Steve Schatzel said Thursday that the 2008 Cy Young Award winner and former University of Washington star was pulled over for speeding on Interstate 5 in the town of Hazel Dell, about four miles north of the Oregon border, on Oct. 30.
An officer approached Lincecum’s 2006 Mercedes and smelled marijuana as the pitcher rolled down his window. Schatzel said Lincecum immediately complied with a request to hand over the drug and a marijuana pipe from the car’s center console.
Ohhhh... soo many good jokes will linger for soo many years. Please, do offer some suggestions for nicknames. Bye bye "The Franchise" and "The Freak"; hello "Sir Munchalot" and "Tweaky Bird."
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lol, pothead
If I had to peg one MLB player that just looked like he fit the stereotype of a pot smoker, I’d probably jump to Lincecum first.
Warning: the above represents the thoughts and opinions of a 16-year-old.
Wanna see how bad I suck at softball? See my stats...
No doubt about that.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Nov 5, 2009 10:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Warning: the above represents the thoughts and opinions of a 16-year-old.
Wanna see how bad I suck at softball? See my stats...
No doubt about that.
Gosh, Pastor, do the members of your congregation who might forego that haircut in these troubled financial times tremble in fear that you’ll label them druggies and cast them out?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 8, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
awesome
this just makes me kind of like him.
like a tornado hitting a jelly bean factory on Halloween.
I wonder if we'd be quite so amused
If he had been caught speeding, but been drunk rather than smoking weed?
Just a thought.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Carrying a pipe?
Not smart. Rolling down your window as the officer approaches? That sounds like a Cheech and Chong movie. Jeez dude, when you see the coppers, Johnny law, the fuzz, popo, oh whatever they’re called these days, roll down your window and roll for a half a block.
Here's m y nickname for Timmy...
DUMBASS! Or Lince-DUMB!
Just because he’s a millionaire pitcher does NOT mean he’ll get away with things like this!
"AUGIE AUGIE AUGIE...OY OY OY!"
I guess
All the Giants superstars need illegal drugs to function…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
can someone please tell me why this is a big deal...
its beyond decriminalized in cali and who cares. alcohol is much worse for you. only stories about steriods should concern us now. i wish this was a non issue. the only reason it was brought up was because the season is over and theres nothing more to talk about.
Would you still think it was no big deal
If he’d not been stopped, and had then plowed into a pedestrian and killed them while speeding and under the influence?
Driving while impaired should ALWAYS be a big deal, whether it’s by pot or alcohol.
Besides that, it’s embarrassing and happened to a rival team’s star. I intend to make the most capital out of this as possible, knowing full well they’d be cavorting wildly at McCC if the roles were reversed.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Nov 6, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Not to sound like a pot head...
But smoking and driving is actually not really a hinderance to ones driving. It is very different than drunk driving. Alcohol makes the user very aggressive and prone to take chances they wouldn’t normally behind the wheel. Cannabis calms one down and makes the user more cautious. While I respect your opinion, I think driving tired is much MUCH more dangerous than driving high.
But it also affects reaction times, which is kind of important when you’re driving a car.
"Spam headline: 'YOU ARE CHOSEN!' Oh, Morpheus, you're getting pretty lazy."
"Or they are informing you you are Jewish in a very lame conversion campaign."
"In either case, sending me spam is not the way to invite me to Zion."
Much more cautious?
As in going 15 mph above the posted speed limit?
Dread to think how fast he’d have been going if he’d been straight…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Nov 9, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Ok...
You’re probably right about the speeding bit. That shows really poor judgment on his part. Why give a cop a reason to pull you over? If I’m driving and I have a drop of alcohol in my system (ie had a couple beers while watching a game and drive a few hours later), I go exactly the speed limit, always signal, never make wide turns ect. So in this sense I am more cautious. I suppose not everyone is the same as me.
My point is that comparing drunk driving and stoned driving is apples and oranges. It gets a bad rap because Nixon ignored scientist findings and funded his own research and told them what the findings should be. It’s easy for a study to be skewed depending on who is running the show.
Bullshit.
Driving while high is much more dangerous than driving while drunk…
Being drunk makes you more sluggish and perhaps (depending on how drunk you are) disoriented, but you still know what the hell you’re doing and are fully aware of your surroundings. You’re still in control and have the ability to make rational decisions.
Being stoned, on the other hand, is basically like sitting in the backseat and watching yourself on autopilot. You may as well be driving with your eyes closed. It inhibits your ability to solve problems because your brain is always a few seconds what’s actually happening.
I’m not condoning either, but I’ve done both, and I’d be much more comfortable if the other drivers on the road with me were drunk rather than high. People who drive under the influence of marijuana more than once are assholes…
Wow...
…that is just amazing.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 10, 2009 5:24 AM EST up reply actions
bullshit is the title
and the theme. you sound like someone who has not only never had an experience with marijuana but is somehow personally offended by the assertion that marijuana =/= alcohol.
anybody have a number on how many people were killed by alcohol addiction in any given year? i don’t, but i have a pretty good idea of the amount of people killed by marijuana addiction every year: 0.
like a tornado hitting a jelly bean factory on Halloween.
I call b.s. on this
Are people killed by high drivers not people killed by marijuana addiction? And p.s. don’t use the “marijuana isn’t addictive” argument – if you like the feeling of it, and keep doing it because you want to repeat that feeling, what’s the difference between that and chemical/biological addiction in the strictest sense as with nicotine?
Most Depressing Math Question Ever courtesy of Probability class: "Clark and Anthony are two old friends. Let A be the event that Clark will attend Anthony's funeral. Let B be the event that Anthony will attend Clark's funeral. Are A and B independent? Why or why not?"
by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 14, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
There’s a very big difference between doing something because you want to and because you have to. Like the difference between someone who likes having a clean house and the person who’s got OCD…
"Spam headline: 'YOU ARE CHOSEN!' Oh, Morpheus, you're getting pretty lazy."
"Or they are informing you you are Jewish in a very lame conversion campaign."
"In either case, sending me spam is not the way to invite me to Zion."
i just noticed this reply
but i guess kishi already made my point. we all saw half baked, right? bob saget says, and i’m paraphrasing, “marijuana isn’t an addiction. i sucked dick for crack! have you ever sucked dick for marijuana?”
that’s the difference.
like a tornado hitting a jelly bean factory on Halloween.
You sound like you’re doing a lot of work to rationalize that it’s okay to drive while drunk.
"Spam headline: 'YOU ARE CHOSEN!' Oh, Morpheus, you're getting pretty lazy."
"Or they are informing you you are Jewish in a very lame conversion campaign."
"In either case, sending me spam is not the way to invite me to Zion."
Have you ever smoked Cannabis?
Cause what you’re saying sounds like the “reefer madness” of our grandparents time.
I’d check this video out. It may be an extremely small sample size (one person), but it really throws what you’re saying on it’s head. He is even able to react very quickly when a car he is following makes an “emergency stop.”
How often do you hear about someone killing other drivers while drunk? And how often can the same be said about pot. I’d bet the number microscopic by comparison. And that’s including when they test a drunk driver and find THC in their system (this in no way means they were high).
And BTW, I guess you’d call me an asshole.
How often
Do you hear about high drivers? People don’t get high to go out, and also don’t go out to get high. When people are high they are, for all intensive purposes, immobile. People get drunk before going out, and people go out to bars to get drunk. If someone’s going to find this stat, it would be essentially useless unless it’s a “per driver” number, which I’m guessing would be impossible to calculate.
Most Depressing Math Question Ever courtesy of Probability class: "Clark and Anthony are two old friends. Let A be the event that Clark will attend Anthony's funeral. Let B be the event that Anthony will attend Clark's funeral. Are A and B independent? Why or why not?"
by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 14, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if this is one good thing about marjuana being illegal: people tend to use it at home. If it were legalized, I wonder if it might proliferate at bars, etc, and instances of marjuana related DUI’s would increase.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
Whoah. Stop.
When people are high they are, for all intensive purposes, immobile
This statement is based on what research?
(Don’t worry. All admissions will be kept in the strictest confidence.)
And it’s “for all intents and purposes”.
Just keeping you shiny.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 15, 2009 3:21 AM EST up reply actions
What someone does in their home is one thing. What they do while behind the wheel of a car is whole different issue.
"Spam headline: 'YOU ARE CHOSEN!' Oh, Morpheus, you're getting pretty lazy."
"Or they are informing you you are Jewish in a very lame conversion campaign."
"In either case, sending me spam is not the way to invite me to Zion."
Just one point
The “not surprising at all” label is kind of sad. Nobody here knows Tim Lincecum. All we know is he’s a great pitcher for a rival team. So yeah, it’s news because he was an idiot and he was driving while under any sort of impairment, whatever your stance on the issue is (personally, I think if something like this is illegal, that should be incentive enough to not do it, especially if it is, according to dozens who I’ve argued this with, “not addictive” – and I have reasons for this if you really want to debate it), but I think we should be disappointed by his poor judgment rather than state that it was expected.
Most Depressing Math Question Ever courtesy of Probability class: "Clark and Anthony are two old friends. Let A be the event that Clark will attend Anthony's funeral. Let B be the event that Anthony will attend Clark's funeral. Are A and B independent? Why or why not?"
by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 6, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions
Disappointed? About a rival team’s star failing?
You’re a very charitable man, IHSB.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
I'm disappointed
Every time someone who is supposed to be a role model, and is a role model, to young kids does something stupid.
Most Depressing Math Question Ever courtesy of Probability class: "Clark and Anthony are two old friends. Let A be the event that Clark will attend Anthony's funeral. Let B be the event that Anthony will attend Clark's funeral. Are A and B independent? Why or why not?"
by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 7, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
I respect that.
Obviously if he would have done something that injured someone else, I wouldn’t be grinning smugly, but since it was a victimless crime, I’m happy for the fodder.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Nov 7, 2009 7:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think...
This just gives us yet another reason to laugh at thye Giants since they’re our rival
"AUGIE AUGIE AUGIE...OY OY OY!"
+1
The heckles the next time he’s at Chase just write themselves:
“Hey, Timmy – how many hits did you have today before getting to the ballpark?”
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
I’ll bet the consensus here is that Lincecum will NEV ER pitch…a no – hitter.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 17, 2009 5:14 AM EST up reply actions
LOL +1
That’s funny!
“Hey Freak, are you going to SMOKE your opponents?”
“Hey Timmy, should we WEED out the bad hitters from the good hitters for you?”
"AUGIE AUGIE AUGIE...OY OY OY!"
Should we just ignore
The fact that a role model for tons of young kids in the Bay Area was just found smoking weed in his car? What kind of example does that set? These guys need to realize that they are role model figures for youngsters, rather than being narcissistic pricks.
Most Depressing Math Question Ever courtesy of Probability class: "Clark and Anthony are two old friends. Let A be the event that Clark will attend Anthony's funeral. Let B be the event that Anthony will attend Clark's funeral. Are A and B independent? Why or why not?"
by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 7, 2009 1:49 AM EST reply actions
Or Tweak Freak?
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
by njjohn on Nov 7, 2009 7:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could it be Lincecum?
Man calls to report $400 and pot stolen.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. " ~Greg, age 8
Njjohn...
LOL good one :)
Old Chinese Proverb:
He who stands on toilet seat get high on pot!
"AUGIE AUGIE AUGIE...OY OY OY!"
At first I thought maybe the fix was in...
…then I read that the plea agreement was standard ops for first timers…even famous ones.
While that’s certainly a relief there’s still an unshakeable disillusionment. I don’t regard pot as the menace to lives alcohol is – still, the law is the law and when you’re hired as a member of a publicly displayed professional organization you should conduct yourself with the best interests of your employer…and yourself…in mind. Clearly this wasn’t Tim’s mindset…“narcissistic pricks”? Ouch!
I also lawled at the visual profiling. Once Vic Jr’s previous coiff exceeded four inches I instituted mandatory weekly testing…and why should women be exempt simply because their plumbing’s different? EVERY longhair regardless of gender is suspect…and we’re checking everybody wearing those damned hippie sandals on a random basis.
It’s KneeJERK Profile Nation, sense and sensibility be damned.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 8, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions
In my experience
While not all pot smokers fit the archetype, those who fit the archetype, almost always are pot smokers. Like most cliches, it gets that way because there’s a lot of truth in it. And Lincecum does look like he’d be more at home outside a Quick Stop:
I imagine Vic will be calling down his PC fatwa on Kevin Smith next…
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
this just makes him more of a boss
i cant hate on him at all
I agree
I now like Lincecum much more than I used to. Cannabis is the least harmful recreational drug one can do (if you drink any alcohol and denounce the use of pot you are a hypocrite. Period), and has actually been shown to kill cancer cells and have cancer preventative properties. Every person who admits to smoking, the closer we get to legalization.
Remember Prohibition? It still doesn’t work.
There's really two separate issues here
1) Whether pot should be legal [I’m with you there, on the same terms as cigarettes. Just as long as it’s nowhere near me, because I hate the smell]
2) Whether it’s ok for someone (role model or not) to take a mind-altering substance that slows your reactions, then not only drive, but do so at a speed significantly above the legal limit. That… I’m not with you.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
by Jim McLennan on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
My bad...
In responding to this post I didn’t even think about the fact that he was speeding.
I could be high and driving and I’d bet you wouldn’t even be able to tell. I try to avoid it if I can and I don’t smoke while driving, but like I said before, I’d rate it as less dangerous than driving while tired.
You may be right
And certainly less dangerous than driving while using a phone [which I see far too many people doing]. I think a lot of people underestimate that a car is basically as dangerous as a loaded-gun – it realy should be treated accordingly.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Indeed.
I have lots of friends who TEXT while they drive…. Which I don’t understand at all. I thought the point of texting was that you can respond when you have the time.
As a person who has done this
Allow me to explain both parts. When I text while driving I try to do so at stoplights or straight roads. People texting while driving on the freeway with their knees have an issue. Also, the idea of texting isn’t that you can respond on your own time – the idea of texting is that you don’t have to actually talk to the person that you’re communicating with, hence requiring fewer social skills and allowing any nerd to come up with a witty response to whatever’s being said. At least from the teenage perspective, that’s the real appeal.
Most Depressing Math Question Ever courtesy of Probability class: "Clark and Anthony are two old friends. Let A be the event that Clark will attend Anthony's funeral. Let B be the event that Anthony will attend Clark's funeral. Are A and B independent? Why or why not?"
by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 14, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
the idea of texting is that you don’t have to actually talk to the person that you’re communicating with, hence requiring fewer social skills and allowing any nerd to come up with a witty response to whatever’s being said.
et al ad infinitum ad nauseum every public forum ever created anywhere on the Internets.
LAWL at “trying” at stoplights and on straight roads. There’s no explanation or rationalization that can save us you.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 AM EST up reply actions
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