Was two voters from each NL city? What city are Carroll and Law representing?

Lincecum was working off a base $650k salary and NO bonus for winning any awards. SURELY that will change. :D As it should, he’s a great pitcher.

I liked the title of this piece: “It’s Good News . . . No Wait, It’s Bad News”

(As a side note, I find it interesting that when you cut-and-paste from the page, it tags on a “Read more at” with the link. Kinda cool, SF Gate.)

verrrrry nice.

I think it was pretty much a toss up. In the end, I actually was convinced Lincecum was the man.

More people thought he shouldn’t win than should, and yet, voting wise…

Even had two of Carpenter’s second place votes become firsts, he would have lost because he lost two 3rd place votes. It was actually very close to being tied, had those two voters bothered to list him third.

(And seriously, Vazquez gets a SECOND PLACE vote?!?)

Since ‘Hacks’ complaint has been clarified that he doesn’t care how you vote, he only cares if you attempt to explain that vote, he’s probably flying to San Francisco to personally harangue Schulman.

and they are all well known to be anti-giants. remember who tried to take down Bonds?

Yeah, him and the near 2-1 majority of voters, who did not put Lincecum first, I see… Homophobes to a man, I guess.

An outlandish generalization, considering, A) I dont know these BBWAA writers from a hole in the wall, and B) I voted for someone other than Lincecum myself.

You quickly forget. I accused you of shoddy reasoning and latent bias against Lincecum. To insinuate from those judgements that two thirds of CYA voters are homophobes, confirms either a short term memory challenge or trollish propensity to sidestep specific criticism with defamatory, specious generalizations.

Shulman’s argument for Carpenter is pretty weak too, but his case is distinguished from yours in several respects. As far as I’m aware, he doesnt share your unapologetic history of sniping over Lincecum’s perceived lifestyle, character or appearance. Second, while his argument (like yours) superficially dismisses Lincecum’s IP advantage, at least Shulman’s weighing a basket of other ideas, instead of scrolling down an ERA+ list and pontificating that innings and “health” dont matter. Perhaps most importantly, he has the integrity to share at least some of his biases, like deferring to Carpenter’s age and the notion that “I will have many more chances to pick Lincecum.” It’s a bad argument, but at least he seems pretty honest about it.

RoxGirl is partisan and cast a ballot I dont agree with. But at least she’s honest about it. I think Wainwright is one of two equally worthy candidates, but voted for him, at least in part, because he’s been undervalued by others in the process, not unlike how Brandon Webb has been in the past. That’s my bias. We all have em. People of integrity either tackle em or own up to them.

Our keen, enthusiastic new guy Zephon was all over that. :-)

Explains his votes here.