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Film Review: Bull Durham

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It took me a long time to get round to watching Bull Durham, and even longer to work out what the title means. At first I thought it was the name of a character, but it turns out "Bull Durham" was a type of tobacco that used to be made in the North Carolina town, and presumably inspired the name of the local baseball team on which this centers, the Durham Bulls. They take delivery of two new players: one, rookie pitcher Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh (Tim Robbins), a man with "a million-dollar arm and a five-cent head," the other a veteran catcher and minor-league career player, Crash Davis (Kevin Costner), sent down from Triple-A to High-A to get LaLoosh's head straight.

He is helped - or not - in this by Annie Savoy (Susan Sarandon) who is part-groupie, part-unofficial coach to the team. She sleeps with one team member per season: initially, she sets her sights on LaLoosh, tying him up on their first date, albeit only to read Walt Whitman poetry to him [which is about the only way you'd get me to listen to Whitman too]. However, as the season wears on, she finds herself increasingly attracted to Davis, who initially spurned her, saying he was too old to have to 'try out,' as she demanded. It's the love triangle between them that is at the center of the film.

And, to me, it's also the biggest weakness. While not denying Savoy has a certain odd charm, with a mix of intellect and carnality, it just never seems plausible that pro sportsmen of all ages would be attracted to her, like flies to...well, y'know. She comes over, to me, as an arrogant and self-centered bitch: I'm entirely with Davis when he says, "Why do you get to choose?" Like him, I'd have left. Unlike him, I wouldn't have come back. I've also never found Sarandon attractive: in Thelma and Louise, I'd have said she was the third-prettiest character [behind Brad Pitt, and only just ahead of Harvey Keitel]. That said, Sarandon and Robbins met during shooting and have been an item for over twenty years, so she must have something. I also found this startling quote from Craig Counsell: "There's no question that's a true character. You see women like that all through the minor leagues." The images of Craig which this brings to mind, required a large can of mental bleach, let me tell you.

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I found the baseball aspects much more successful, probably helped by the fact that writer-director Ron Shelton was a minor-league player himself. He reached the Triple-A level in the Orioles' organization before realizing he'd never make it to the majors, and quitting. Costner's passion for the game is well-known, having appeared in numerous baseball-themed movies in his career, including another possible candidate for the best to deal with the sport, Field of Dreams. The relationship between the gauche yet talented rookie and the wily veteran who has forgotten more about the game than most of us will ever know, is expertly-drawn. You get a real sense of the characters and the thought-processes which go on, even over the course of a single at-bat.

It's often laugh-out loud funny, such as the meeting on the mound that degenerates into a discussion of acceptable wedding gifts. Or when Davis orders LaLoosh to nail the mascot, purely in order to intimidate the opposing slugger - if only, if only Chris Snyder would tell Max Scherzer to do the same thing at any home game this year. It's also eminently quotable, with a number of lines which I feel certain will be recycled at some point in the 'Pit over the coming season. For example, after a home-run: "Anything traveling that far should have a stewardess on it." Or the ever-appropriate, "Strikeouts are boring. Not only that, they're fascist." Perhaps the most famous is Davis's speech when Savoy asks him, "What do you believe in, then?" It's utterly scripted, but no less marvelous for that [video is probably NSFW, due to language].


Seen through twenty years of subsequent history, it's somewhat ironic that Costner says "I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone," when he'd go on to play Jim Garrison in JFK - who spent much of his life striving to prove the exact opposite. I also got a kick out of Davis's reference to "an opening for a manager in Visalia," where Arizona currently have their High-A affiliate. Though since Costner spent a high-school semester there, and the Diamondbacks wouldn't even come into existence for a decade after this film, it's unlikely of any actual significance.

Good movie? Sure. Very good movie? Probably. Great movie? Not so certain. Greatest Baseball Movie of All-Time? No. I'm largely with Roger Ebert, who wrote "The movie is a completely unrealistic romantic fantasy... It knows so much about baseball and so little about love." Still, while movies about the sport often tend towards the physical (Major League) or spiritual (The Natural), this is certainly among the most intellectual of baseball films, and as such deserves a significant amount of respect.

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nice review Jim =p

I watched this movie like 5 years ago… think I’ll try it again

Wikipedia is accurate. (citation needed)

by Muu on Jan 10, 2009 12:45 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've

seen about 30 minutes, and it didn’t interest me much.

Please, say that you care, or say that you think that I'm... beautiful.

by soco on Jan 10, 2009 9:57 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've never seen it either

I’ve seen a lot of ducks, though.

"That's a cop-out, and you know it, and it breaks my heart into a thousand pieces that we ain't gonna save America with your blog today."

by kishi on Jan 10, 2009 12:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mighty Ducks?

Or the other kind?

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 12, 2009 2:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great line
The images of Craig which this brings to mind, required a large can of mental bleach, let me tell you.

I love the “mental bleach” part, but what kind of bleach comes in a can? :)

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 10, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has a point....

welcome to the ’Pit, by the way.

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 10, 2009 9:49 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we're talking about "mental" bleach

I’d guess it also comes in bottles and kegs.

"We...probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." — Terry Bisson

by Scrbl on Jan 10, 2009 10:16 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ajax


Maybe it’s a British thing? ;-) Welcome to the ’Pit though!

by Jim McLennan on Jan 10, 2009 10:54 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm....

but is Ajax really packaged in a “can”? I mean, it’s cardboard….

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 10, 2009 11:44 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

[Rolls eyes]

Now you’re really splitting hairs… Don’t make me open a can of Stone Cold 3:16 on you – regardless of what it’s made. :-)

by Jim McLennan on Jan 10, 2009 12:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

it is’Skins.

Please, say that you care, or say that you think that I'm... beautiful.

by soco on Jan 10, 2009 8:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now wait a second --

what does that mean?

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 10, 2009 8:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That

you’d split hairs about splitting hairs?

Please, say that you care, or say that you think that I'm... beautiful.

by soco on Jan 10, 2009 11:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now, that,

is only partially true. I wouldn’t split hairs about splitting hairs.

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 10, 2009 11:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you splitting hairs about if you’d split hairs about splitting hairs?

"That's a cop-out, and you know it, and it breaks my heart into a thousand pieces that we ain't gonna save America with your blog today."

by kishi on Jan 11, 2009 5:42 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.......... no!!

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 11, 2009 7:54 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on a bald head even!

If you make every game a life-and-death thing, you're going to have problems. You'll be dead a lot.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Jan 15, 2009 9:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent review

I havent seen it in ages, but recall crisp dialogue and a comedic, almost mystical tone, enabling willful suspension of disbelief. Not as mystical as “The Natural”, as you point out, but I think your blurb about Sarandon – " has a certain odd charm, with a mix of intellect and carnality" – applies to the film as well and gives it its winning charm.

I wouldnt call Annie Savoy a b*tch. She uses men, but as I remember is quite upfront about it. Manipulative, yes. Mean spirited, no. Sounds like you react to Sarandon much the way I do to Sigourney Weaver :-) Too “masculine” for my tastes. Savoy’s eyeballs may scream iodine deficiency, but I found her funny, provocative, sensuous. A benign succubus more than a “B” :-)

Thank you for letting me talk

by Diamondhacks on Jan 10, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure

that I’ve ever heard of a succubus referred to as “benign”.

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 10, 2009 5:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh Yes!

They typically are pretty ugly, wear tight slacks and work as spies in military intelligence, plying butt heads in charge of peacekeeper missles for their unbiased opinions with jumbo shrimp ;-)

Thank you for letting me talk

by Diamondhacks on Jan 10, 2009 6:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Fair comment: “bitch” might be slightly harsh, but being upfront about it doesn’t really cut much ice with me! I just don’t see what LaLoosh, Davis, etc. see in her: it’d be one thing to act like the Queen of Sheba, handing down decrees on who’s going to sleep with you, if you look like Angelina Jolie. When you bear a closer resemblance to Peter Lorre…not so much. I’ve no problem with Sarandon in the right role – Thelma and Louise is a great film, salvaged by fine direction and acting, of a quite awful script – but this wasn’t it.

by Jim McLennan on Jan 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it’d be one thing to act like the Queen of Sheba, handing down decrees on who’s going to sleep with you, if you look like Angelina Jolie.

I guess that’s true in a general sense, but from what I recall, that’s a central charm of the movie – the less traveled idea that an older woman who didnt walk right off the Ford Agency catwalk can seduce men with self confident wit and feminine mystique. Cher and Nick Cage in Moonstruck might be another example. Sarandon’s “hotness” doesnt pass the Hollywood blockbuster test, but I think the shape of her bottle and drinkability pass most tests men would be likely to muster in the real world.

When you bear a closer resemblance to Peter Lorre…not so much.

lol. Now I cant get Lorre out of my head. Damn you and your encyclopedic recall of filmdom’s ocular lookalikes!

I just don’t see what LaLoosh, Davis, etc. see in her

Nuke, I tend to agree, altho as you point out, Robbins and Sarandon are actual partners. But, yes, Nuke seems like a guy who’d be looking for younger girls. Crash and Annie have dynamite chemistry, imo. They’re bright, attractive, spurred on by their own mortality; yearning for their own brand of “romance” in a world of 20 year old dullards. I thought it was very believable.

bitch" might be slightly harsh

I enjoyed your take on Sarandon’s character and definitely hear where you’re coming from…I just, more generally, have a strong negative reaction to the noun bitch. Always have.

I’ve no problem with Sarandon in the right role

I wonder how Bull Durham would differ with a young, blonde Annie Savoy – like Darryl Hannah or Kelly McGillis? More believable, perhaps, but I suspect it would also feel more conventional, less amusing. Sarandon ties Nuke on the bed to recite Whitman. What’s Hannah’s motive to tie him up? To read Elle? Or worse, to have sex? zzz zzz

Thank you for letting me talk

by Diamondhacks on Jan 11, 2009 2:05 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Iodine deficiency!

Yes! That hits the nail on th head! I’ve always been strangely uncomforatble about the love triangle with Savoy. I wish my wife behaved like her, but I’ll do without the Igor from Young Frankenstein eyeballs.
This movie is to be watched for the baseball content. The clubshouse scenes are priceless; “Coffee is for closers only!”
Haven’t seen the natural, yet, but it’s lurking somewhere on the Netflix queue.

And can I say, my Craig Counsell fandom just went up another notch…as long as his Savoy hasn’t been arrested for pedifilia (Counsell looks 12).

by Counsellmember on Jan 11, 2009 1:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve only seen it once, and the romance plot isn’t nearly as strong as the baseball, but it’s not nearly as bad as Connor’s least successful baseball movie, “For the Love of the Game.”

When the movie is focusing on the culture of baseball it’s terrific and incredibly quotable.

If complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are bastards'.

by luckycc on Jan 10, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd

but really, what’s a better baseball movie?

We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth

by oldjacket on Jan 12, 2009 9:51 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, my favorite

is *61, even though I dislike the Yankees.

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by DbacksSkins on Jan 12, 2009 2:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm still a sucker

for Major League. If a week goes by that I don’t quote that movie, something has gone horribly wrong. :)

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 12, 2009 7:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah.

Partly (and proudly) filmed at Hi Corbett, in Tucson. :-)

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 12, 2009 11:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you ever

read the book? The movie departs from it by quite a bit.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 12, 2009 11:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, haven't done so

I’ve heard it’s different. But the film is so good, it’s hard to imagine the book being anything but a disappointment. Bit like Lord of the Rings, really: made an effort on that back in my AD&D days, but stalled after about the first book. Can’t see me ever going back now.

by Jim McLennan on Jan 13, 2009 11:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second both counts

I’ve read The Natural two or three times and still dont really connect with it, like I do with the movie. It’s as if the novel’s mysticism and craziness is too out there for me to emotionally inhabit what’s going on. I’ve heard the movie critics, but think the flick incorporates (and culls) Malamud’s weird stuff impressively, into a funny, poignant and visually arresting movie.

Bit like Lord of the Rings, really

Yeah. The book is a thousand pages of traipsing over hillocks, settling in for the night next to some “fell” bramble. Extraordinary, imaginative breadth – not much depth or insight, imo. Love the movies, but wouldnt recommend the books to those with less than forty years remaining life expectancy.

Thank you for letting me talk

by Diamondhacks on Jan 13, 2009 8:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve read The Natural two or three times and still dont really connect with it, like I do with the movie. It’s as if the novel’s mysticism and craziness is too out there for me to emotionally inhabit what’s going on.

Not to mention the novel is…. decidedly more un-Hollywood. Especially the…. err, ending.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 13, 2009 10:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Field of Dreams

just really resonated with me. Never really liked Bull Durham

If you make every game a life-and-death thing, you're going to have problems. You'll be dead a lot.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Jan 15, 2009 9:28 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My favorite two baseball movies:

Pride of the Yankees – Even though it’s about the team I hate, it’s about them at a time when they were still a somewhat benevolent force in the universe, like early Google and it makes me cry every time.

The Sandlot – just a really fun, underrated little film that hits on all the right notes and shows exactly why baseball’s important as a cultural driving force.

Bull Durham, Major League and The Natural round out my top five, although *61 has to be up near there too. Not the biggest fan of Field of Dreams.

by Rox Girl on Jan 15, 2009 11:10 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Sandlot!!

HAH!! I forgot about that one!

IIRC, I think when that movie first came out, my mommy wouldn’t let me see it because it had words like “fart” and “poop”.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 15, 2009 3:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not seen The Sandlot

I’ll add it to the list… Not a real list, you understand, like a Netflix queue or anything organized. Just my mental one. Which probably means it will get forgotten about until I stumble across it on cable!

by Jim McLennan on Jan 15, 2009 8:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching this last night,

I couldn’t get Peter Lorre out of my head during the lovemaking scenes. Thanks, Jim.

"Of course, it’s downright frightening to imagine how two Adam Dunns would turn the double play." - Joe Posnanski

by DbacksSkins on Jan 14, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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